Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread md
Michael Joel: Here is a rant for both of you. Joel, Win32 is buggy no matter what flavor and you cannot fix the problem or isolate problems because it is closed source. (I bet poorly written source at that - like MFC garbage) Linux has bugs, but you have the opportunity of fixing what you

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
I'm a pascal, delphi programmer so forget about c. Problem with the Win32 closed source thing you mentioned is that for this particular problem: win32/sendmail.c is not really a win32 problem but a php sendmail.c problem. A C problem in win32/sendmail.c is not win32 problem. So all you PHP is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread derick
Hello, from RFC 822: destination = To : 1#address ; Primary / Resent-To: 1#address / cc : 1#address ; Secondary / Resent-cc: 1#address / bcc : #address ; Blind carbon / Reset-bcc:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Open source obviously will take a LONGER time because only programmers that want to work for free will do it. Hobbyists and wanna be half ass lamerZ take up the rest of the slack. Either you're on a religious OS mission or else forget it! I'm going back to ASP!! lol Michael Loftis wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Open source obviously will take a LONGER time because only programmers that want to work for free will do it. Hobbyists and wanna be half ass lamerZ take up the rest of the slack. Either you're on a religious OS mission or else forget it! I'm going back to ASP!! Thank you. -Rasmus --

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread md
Hello Delphi programmer! Here is a description of the wonderful world of Delphi -- An exception has occurred at 0x333F248A in Kernel32.DLL. YOURAPP.EXE has caused a general fault. Would you like to continue? YES or NO

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Actually I get better paid for doing Windows NT - ASP stuff! :) md wrote: Hello Delphi programmer! Here is a description of the wonderful world of Delphi -- An exception has occurred at 0x333F248A in Kernel32.DLL. YOURAPP.EXE

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Ummm, ALSO, actually, in defense of Delphi, while it's not perfect, I haven't seen any of those problems you listed below, so obviously in my opinion, you're full of crap. Maybe you would have to be a hobbyist or wanna be lamer to get those kinds of errors!! md wrote: Hello Delphi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Lars Torben Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Open source obviously will take a LONGER time because only programmers that want to work for free will do it. Hobbyists and wanna be half ass lamerZ take up the rest of the slack. Joel, I mean no offense here. But what people have been saying is true: in the open

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
No you can't take this offline! lol -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
And further more your email address doesn't even work! - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] No you can't take this offline! lol -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Your reply makes a lot of sense. But at this point I think I will bail! Until PHP Win32 gets better support it is worthless to try to talk sense in this forum! At 04:29 AM 5/22/01 , you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Open source obviously will take a LONGER time because only programmers

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Yes I do breath fire, but only to put fire under you lazy PHP developers! lol Why so hostile? Because I have a major php application that works with mail() ! And I did have to program a work around for the idiotic stupid failures of that function! Why so hostile? Because I reported that bug

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
lol, if you don't want an email back then don't email me to start with! lol Ding dongs like you probably is what's wrong with PHP. Only want to hear nice siren songs about how glorious php is over sound of BUGS BUGS BUGS and more BUGS! At 11:11 AM 5/22/01 +0200, you wrote: Cut this crap

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
HAH! and Ding Dong it was: Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't even make your email work right! Laff no wonder mail() doesn't work right with ding dongs like you! --

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
PHP is ok for some problem solving but obviously ASP is better than PHP in the long run because of BETTER SUPPORT! :) Oh yes, sure. Once you write to Microsoft your ASP is crap, you should get some real programmers working for you because your programs are not working and outright crap, Steve

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Sterling Hughes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAH! and Ding Dong it was: Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't even make your email work right! Laff no wonder mail() doesn't work right with ding dongs like you!

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Zak Greant
RAOTFLOLPMP! Go Sterling, go! Kick some stinky troll butt - kick it, kick it! :D --zak - Original Message - From: Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
21, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAH! and Ding Dong it was: Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't even make your email work right! Laff no wonder mail

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
lol, good thing I had a few beers! Again with ding dongs like you it's no wonder... etc. At 05:38 PM 5/21/01 -0400, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAH! and Ding Dong it was: Delivery to the following recipients failed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't even make your email work

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Peter Petermann
Would you like to have sex with me if I dressed up like a ballerina and called myself Bob? http://www.b0g.org/?sec=filesid=424nid=423 (come on guys, we get so few of these wonderful gents per year, let me have *some* fun ;) hehe... ;) disi -- PHP Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Wez Furlong
Joel, I am being paid by my clients to contribute to PHP for use in enterprise products because ASP and Windows don't cut the mustard. Please lets stop this rant; go back to ASP and let us concentrate on getting things done. --Wez. On 2001-05-22 08:53:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open source

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
laff, Well with (Peter Petermann) as your name it's no wonder that you have a one track mind! Sorry no faggots allowed here! Wow, just stick a stick in the php nest and they come out of the woodwork. No wonder PHP is BUGGED! cyberfly.net!! what a name! Talk about bug city!! They're out in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread derick
On Tue, 22 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cyberfly.net!! what a name! Talk about bug city!! They're out in numbers now!! No, having a companies site which main color is pink... even my granny makes better looking pages then that. And she's 91. -- PHP Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Sterling Hughes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: laff, Well with (Peter Petermann) as your name it's no wonder that you have a one track mind! Sorry no faggots allowed here! Wow, just stick a stick in the php nest and they come out of the woodwork. No wonder PHP is BUGGED! cyberfly.net!! what a name! Talk

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Peter Petermann
hey kiddie, Well with (Peter Petermann) as your name it's no wonder that you have a one track mind! Sorry no faggots allowed here! then, why are you here? Wow, just stick a stick in the php nest and they come out of the woodwork. No wonder PHP is BUGGED! there are more bugs in win than in

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Yes please , GET THINGS DONE!!! If only things did get done!! laff Please do contribute so I won't have to complain!! laff! Don't cut the mustard? Do you have a virtual PHP mustard knife?? laff Like I said earlier, if you don't want me to answer then don't write to me with your stupid crap.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Wez Furlong
On 2001-05-22 08:00:44, md [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Delphi programmer! Here is a description of the wonderful world of Delphi Hey, I use Delphi too you know! Have you tried it? I am fluent in C, C++, Delphi. I prefer using Delphi for Windows because it lets you handle crashes more

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I do breath fire, but only to put fire under you lazy PHP developers! i can only speak for myself here, but i think we are only lazy as far as lame platforms are concerned Why so hostile? Because I have a major php application that works with mail() ! And I did

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
A fine example of the php trash out there. My point exactly why Win32 PHP is screwed from the start! I'm not answering this BS forum anymore even though you obviously like it. laff. Go fuck yourself you ding dong! -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Oh really. And I suppose you would fix it all for free too? Hasn't happened yet for over a year and mail() is still the same bullshit bugged function as it always was from the start. If you're such a great fantastic Zend Products Engineer maybe you should look into **WHY** is mail() for win32

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Chris Walker
Hello List, Can we please kill this ridiculous conversation. If I wanted to spend my time reliving the Win/*NIX PHP/ASP flamewars of yesteryear I'd goto one of any number of unenlightened kiddie boards. Many thanks to the effors of Derek/Andi (PHP/Zend

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
If you're such a great fantastic Zend Products Engineer maybe you should look into **WHY** is mail() for win32 still BUGGED after over one year of bug reports? Because you didn't fix it, though you knew for a year there's a bug in there. I'm stunned on such a laziness and indifference from

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Yeah? Well I wonder how you could even make it to being called Products Engineer. Obviously any monkey that wants to take the job could be called that too. I'm glad you find amusement with this. At least my efforts have not not been totally in vain. At 02:24 PM 5/22/01 +0300, you wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Peter Petermann
Yeah? Well I wonder how you could even make it to being called Products Engineer. Obviously any monkey that wants to take the job could be called that too. well, joel, seems as if you job description is just looser! Peter Petermann -- *ZIMT - where PHP meets needs* www.cyberfly.net - [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread joel
Public humiliation to hell. I've been in the army. laff. I think it's PHP and your bullshit that's taking a beating because I am one heck of a loud mouthed upset customer (if you can grasp that concept) that still manages to know something about web programming! If you don't like it, do it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Andre Langhorst
This guy is perfect. 100% pure genious, batteries included. Please do something for me for free, and fast, or I will curse you and call you lazy dorks!. I love you, Joel. You made my day. Thank you *bow*. this flame is almost as silly as the jon flame (but I liked Jon better, he was pretty

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Peter Petermann
still manages to know something about web programming! oh, realy? did you know that design is part of web programming? oh... wait.. http://intwebservices.com/ is yours? ah... i see no design is good design?! -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Peter Petermann
Fuck you and all your PHP bullshit hype crap. do you have sex with computers? -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Peter Petermann
remembering the jon flame? it took way to much time to read, ok. it was funny, but remember there are many people on the list who neither want to have fun nor want their inboxes spammed with rubbish mh.. an list like [EMAIL PROTECTED] could be a solution ;) -- PHP Development Mailing List

RE: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-22 Thread Sean R. Bright
PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:57 AM To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant Public humiliation to hell. I've been in the army. laff. I think it's PHP and your bullshit that's taking a beating because I am

[PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-21 Thread joel
Well I feel the need for another rant. rant start I reported several times about the bugs in the win32 mail() function. Over a year ago too. Well it looks like all the response that was given to it was about in the nature of don't know nothin about it 'cause I'm into linux. If you want to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-21 Thread Michael Loftis
win32 support is and always has been admittedly lacking. I personally don't take it serious as a web serving platform, I have seen any number of sites hit the wall hard when it comes to scaling with Win32 based platforms. It's suitable for testing and development maybe but not deployment. PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Lame support for win32 mail() function -rant

2001-05-21 Thread Gavin Sherry
Joel, The main problem is that in order to produce a PHP release for Windows which is of the same level of functionality as a release for a Unix system is quite difficult. Even though Linux, *BSD, Solaris and HP UX (as well as other unices) have their nuances, the PHP development team have an