php-general Digest 5 Jul 2011 12:03:46 -0000 Issue 7390

2011-07-05 Thread php-general-digest-help
php-general Digest 5 Jul 2011 12:03:46 - Issue 7390 Topics (messages 313867 through 313869): Re: Installing PHP 313867 by: Chris Stinemetz 313868 by: Chris Stinemetz 313869 by: David Robley Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:

[PHP] Re: Installing PHP

2011-07-05 Thread David Robley
Jim Giner wrote: Hi all, (Hopefully I posted this in a place that can/will help me) I got curious about running php / apache on my own laptop in order to help my devl process, instead of writing, uploading and testing on my site. Found a nice pair of docs from thesitewizard.com that

[PHP] Re: Installing PHP

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
Thanks David! The error log tells me that I have installed a version of PHP that is not thread-safe. My bad - I mis-read the download page and did in fact acquire the wrong version. Am beginning PHP install all over again! David Robley robl...@aapt.net.au wrote in message

[PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Dajka Tamas
Hi all, I've bumped into an interesting thing with foreach. I really don't know, if this is normal working, or why it is, so I got curious. The script: foreach ( $cats as $c ) { echo $c['id']; if ( $c['id'] 5 ) {

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Louis Huppenbauer
Hi there I think that foreach in your first example just knowns that this should be the last loop (as the array only contains 1 element at start) and so stops there. In your 2nd example however the first loop isn't the last, so the array get's checked again, and now there's another element, so...

[PHP] Re: Installing PHP

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
Eureka! The whole problem was my unfamiliarity with the php download page. To others - read the choices there very carefully (which I thought I did!) to be sure you get the thread-safe version. Thanks to all who contributed, but David gets the kudos for telling me to check the error logs

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-07-05 09:40 AM, Dajka Tamas wrote: Hi all, I've bumped into an interesting thing with foreach. I really don't know, if this is normal working, or why it is, so I got curious. The script: foreach ( $cats as$c ) { echo $c['id']; if ( $c['id'] 5 )

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Louis Huppenbauer
Or maybe he tried to do the following? ?php foreach ( $cats as$c ) { echo $c['id']; if ($c['id'] 5) { $cats[] = array('id' = ($c['id'] + 1)); } } ? 2011/7/5 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com: On 11-07-05 09:40 AM,

RE: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Dajka Tamás
Hi, Yeah, I'm really want to do that, since I'm working with the elements of the original array ( skipped that part in sample code ). I've tried your suggestion, but it gives the same result, so on just one input is just gives back '1'. What troubles me, that foreach gives an inconsistent

RE: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Dajka Tamás
Tried, gives the same result with one element :( What's working: $cats = array( array( 'id' = 1 ) ); while ( $c = array_shift($cats) ) { echo $c['id']; if ( $c['id'] 5 ) { $c['id']++; $cats[] = $c; } } But this is 'while' and it pops all

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-07-05 10:20 AM, Dajka Tamás wrote: Hi, Yeah, I'm really want to do that, since I'm working with the elements of the original array ( skipped that part in sample code ). I've tried your suggestion, but it gives the same result, so on just one input is just gives back '1'. Ahhh... you

[PHP] Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread admin
Since this is the 3rd time I have been chewed out for top posting. Anyone know how to make Outlook changes its reply position. I am using outlook 2007 and I do not find an option for this. I have to scroll down to the bottom of the email and it considers that to be an adjustment to the

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Louis Huppenbauer
I don't think that it does this: if ( count($elements) == 1 ) then loop 1; else loop normally; It's probably more something like that: $i=count($elements); loop: $i--; if($i == 0) $last_loop = true; else $last_loop = false if($last_loop) exit; else goto loop; But aside from

RE: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Dajka Tamás
Ok, but if it would be that way I shouldn't get '122334455' for second output, no? The item count increments with every iteration of the loop. Or you're saying that, it checks for an existance of nextitem before every loop, and that will fail with just one element, but will always return true

[PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
outlook doesn't offer an option for that. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-07-05 10:39 AM, Dajka Tamás wrote: Ok, but if it would be that way I shouldn't get '122334455' for second output, no? The item count increments with every iteration of the loop. Or you're saying that, it checks for an existance of nextitem before every loop, and that will fail with

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-07-05 10:39 AM, Dajka Tamás wrote: Ok, but if it would be that way I shouldn't get '122334455' for second output, no? The item count increments with every iteration of the loop. Or you're saying that, it checks for an existance of nextitem before every loop, and that will fail with just

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-07-05 10:42 AM, Jim Giner wrote: outlook doesn't offer an option for that. I'm pretty sure it has a scrollbar on the side ;) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message

Re: [PHP] Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 10:29:12AM -0400, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: Since this is the 3rd time I have been chewed out for top posting. Anyone know how to make Outlook changes its reply position. I am using outlook 2007 and I do not find an option for this. I have to scroll down

[PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
And besides - I'm sure there are PLENTY of people here who despise scrolling thru endless repeated paragraphs from a long list of posts just to get the the latest contribution to the topic.:) This newgroup may have its rules, but if bottom-posting was such a wise and preferred method, why

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-07-05 09:40 AM, Dajka Tamas wrote: foreach ( $cats as$c ) { echo $c['id']; if ( $c['id'] 5 ) { $c['id']++; $cats[] = $c; } } Given that you seem to want the above

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-07-05 10:48 AM, Dajka Tamás wrote: Thanks, that was interesting :) I think I got one step further in understanding PHP :) BTW, I've changed the loop to 'for' and it's working well :) Can you show us your for loop? I'm not immediately sure how you use a for loop to traverse a growing

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Curtis Maurand
Jim Giner wrote: outlook doesn't offer an option for that. ctrl-END gets you to the bottom of a message.

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Stuart Dallas
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote: And besides - I'm sure there are PLENTY of people here who despise scrolling thru endless repeated paragraphs from a long list of posts just to get the the latest contribution to the topic.:) This newgroup may

Re: [PHP] Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Tim Streater
On 05 Jul 2011 at 15:29, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: Since this is the 3rd time I have been chewed out for top posting. Anyone know how to make Outlook changes its reply position. I am using outlook 2007 and I do not find an option for this. I have to scroll down to the bottom of the

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 10:48:34AM -0400, Jim Giner wrote: And besides - I'm sure there are PLENTY of people here who despise scrolling thru endless repeated paragraphs from a long list of posts just to get the the latest contribution to the topic.:) This newgroup may have its rules,

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Stuart Dallas
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Dajka Tamas vi...@vipernet.hu wrote: I've bumped into an interesting thing with foreach. I really don't know, if this is normal working, or why it is, so I got curious. The script: foreach ( $cats as $c ) { echo $c['id']; if (

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
not what he was asking for. Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote in message news:4e7755d57a7a032c39e44598f3660ac7.squir...@www.xyonet.com... Jim Giner wrote: outlook doesn't offer an option for that. ctrl-END gets you to the bottom of a message. -- PHP General Mailing List

[PHP] XML array

2011-07-05 Thread Kanishka
hi this is my first post on php general mailing list, i want to read a xml file to retrieve data. i tried by using DOM and simple xml but i couldn't. the xml file looks like this.. *note head titlethe the title/title date7-6-2011/date /head data book namebook 1/name

Re: [PHP] Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Stuart Dallas
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:29 PM, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: Anyone know how to make Outlook changes its reply position. I am using outlook 2007 and I do not find an option for this. Google delivers... http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/macros4outlook/index.php?title=QuoteFix_Macro

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
Actually business user do subscribe to use Outlook as their client. It does not come with the OS, it is purchased on a per seat basis by every corporation using it in the form of a license. On the other hand Outlook Express is available as part of the os, or is easily obtained for free. It

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Louis Huppenbauer
Just use count($arr) in your for-header, as it get's executed again for each loop. ?php $arr = array(array('id'=1), array('id'=2)); for($i=0;$icount($arr);$i++) { echo $arr[$i]['id']; if($i 6) { $arr[] = array('id' =

Re: [PHP] XML array

2011-07-05 Thread Stuart Dallas
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Kanishka kanishkani...@gmail.com wrote: hi this is my first post on php general mailing list, i want to read a xml file to retrieve data. i tried by using DOM and simple xml but i couldn't. the xml file looks like this.. *note head titlethe the

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote in message If you're looking for a sane reason why Microsoft software is popular in the business world you're not going to find one. No - you missed my statement's point. Not looking for anything - just saying it is what it is. You won't find me

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Richard Quadling
On 5 July 2011 16:48, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: Let the new mantra be - Snip Your Posts! Consider your post snipped. OOI. If you use Google Mail, highlighting the part of the message you want to use and then clicking reply-all will embed only that part in the reply. --

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Stuart Dallas
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote: Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote in message If you're looking for a sane reason why Microsoft software is popular in the business world you're not going to find one. No - you missed my statement's point.

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Stuart Dallas
Again, please include the list when replying! On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote: ** if they weren't on the list, then how did they get involved in the first place? You don't need to be subscribed to post. I see the bottom posting lasted a

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote in message news:CAJgGj58OkZLiakMMo8qmuhg68BamYOi+TLNGyzze=iyppbj...@mail.gmail.com... Again, please include the list when replying! But don't include the poster's email if you're replying to the list! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Richard Quadling
On 5 July 2011 17:08, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: Again, please include the list when replying! On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote: ** if they weren't on the list, then how did they get involved in the first place? And Jim, your anti-spam

Re: [PHP] Foreach question

2011-07-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On 11-07-05 11:46 AM, Louis Huppenbauer wrote: Just use count($arr) in your for-header, as it get's executed again for each loop. ?php $arr = array(array('id'=1), array('id'=2)); for($i=0;$icount($arr);$i++) { echo $arr[$i]['id']; if($i 6) {

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Mike Mackintosh
On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:06, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote: Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote in message If you're looking for a sane reason why Microsoft software is popular in the business world you're

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Stuart Dallas
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.comwrote: Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote in message news:CAJgGj58OkZLiakMMo8qmuhg68BamYOi+TLNGyzze=iyppbj...@mail.gmail.com... Again, please include the list when replying! But don't include the poster's email if

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Richard Quadling
On 5 July 2011 17:10, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote in message news:CAJgGj58OkZLiakMMo8qmuhg68BamYOi+TLNGyzze=iyppbj...@mail.gmail.com... Again, please include the list when replying! But don't include the poster's email if you're replying

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
If you resisted sending what amounts to a duplicate email to the posters who are 'on' the list, you wouldn't have to deal with spam filters. Don't understand the purpose of a reply all when in essence our replies are to the list wherein the topic originated. Those on the list will surely see

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote in message news:CAKUjMCVbhbXO=ngr1lnzo-6fdahdj-r8hc73b-esotfqg+k...@mail.gmail.com... But that is what reply-all is about. Person A sends an message to List B. I reply-all and Person A and List B get replies. Hmm. A new level of complexity! A

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Lucas
On 7/5/2011 9:11 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: And Jim, your anti-spam measures are spamming me. So, I've blocked your anti-spam as spam. I noticed this the other day and I blocked him as well. Maybe this is why his mail server IP is listed as a source of spam...

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
It's certainly not spam - it's a spam filter offered by my ISP and works great. The mail you are getting from it is a query asking you to reply if you are real and once you do, you'll never get the request again. Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote in message news:4e134676.7090...@cmsws.com...

Re: [PHP] XML array

2011-07-05 Thread Tamara Temple
On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: $arr[] = array('name' = (string)$book-name, 'author' = (string)$book-author); } Interesting -- is the casting to string type necessary there? I haven't done that before, and it seems to have worked ok... -- PHP General Mailing List

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Ashley Sheridan
Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: It's certainly not spam - it's a spam filter offered by my ISP and works great. The mail you are getting from it is a query asking you to reply if you are real and once you do, you'll never get the request again. Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote in

Re: [PHP] XML array

2011-07-05 Thread Stuart Dallas
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Tamara Temple tamouse.li...@gmail.comwrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: $arr[] = array('name' = (string)$book-name, 'author' = (string)$book-author); } Interesting -- is the casting to string type necessary there? I haven't done

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote in message news:21e916f2-2a1f-4982-bc4d-9a574da92...@email.android.com... I've seen fake messages do that before as a way of harvesting good live email addresses, so I regard all such messages spam now. oh, well... -- PHP General Mailing

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Tamara Temple
Business e-mail did not start with Outlook. Businesses have been using e-mail long before it even showed up as an option. The de jure standard on the Internet before that time, and before several other clients came about was either bottom posting or intermixed responses. This was true in

Re: [PHP] XML array

2011-07-05 Thread Tamara Temple
On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Stuart Dallas wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Tamara Temple tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: $arr[] = array('name' = (string)$book-name, 'author' = (string)$book-author); } Interesting -- is the casting

RE: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread admin
-Original Message- From: Jim Giner [mailto:jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote in message

Re: [PHP] Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread James Moe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/05/2011 07:48 AM, Jim Giner wrote: And besides - I'm sure there are PLENTY of people here who despise scrolling thru endless repeated paragraphs from a long list of posts just to get the the latest contribution to the topic.:) I often

RE: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 14:04 -0400, ad...@buskirkgraphics.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Jim Giner [mailto:jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:53 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting Ashley Sheridan

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Tamara Temple
On Jul 5, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: Have you looked into using Evolution as an email client? It's what I use on Linux, and the last time I checked there were Windows binaries available for it. It connect to MS Exchange Server if that's what you use in the office, it's

Re: [PHP] Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
James Moe ji...@sohnen-moe.com wrote in message news:4e1353f3.6090...@sohnen-moe.com... I suspect one reason top posting is popular is that responders do not have to think about tidying up, just spit out a reply and move on. The result is a message that grows in size with every reply

[PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Jim Giner, Am 2011-07-05 10:48:34, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: And besides - I'm sure there are PLENTY of people here who despise scrolling thru endless repeated paragraphs from a long list of posts just to get the the latest contribution to the topic.:) This newgroup may

[PHP] Re: Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Richard Quadling, Am 2011-07-05 17:14:18, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: But that is what reply-all is about. Person A sends an message to List B. I reply-all and Person A and List B get replies. I do not like to get PMs on my cellphone from the LIST Hmm. GMail sucks at this. Reply

[PHP] Re: Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Jim Giner, Am 2011-07-05 13:30:31, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: It's certainly not spam - it's a spam filter offered by my ISP and works great. The mail you are getting from it is a query asking you to reply if you are real and once you do, you'll never get the request again. Do

[PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello James Moe, Am 2011-07-05 11:12:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: I suspect one reason top posting is popular is that responders do not have to think about tidying up, just spit out a reply and move on. Replying to what if s/he does not scroll down to read the answer of the previous

Re: [PHP] Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Tamara Temple
On Jul 5, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Imagine here a quoting of 200 lines and then a ME TOO! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded

Re: [PHP] vend-bot?

2011-07-05 Thread Kirk Bailey
On 7/3/2011 4:53 PM, Stuart Dallas wrote: Only allowing them to access the URL once is a bad idea. If their download fails, is corrupt, or any number of other things go wrong (think accelerators, browser accelerators, etc) then you end up with a lot of support mail. Better to give them

[PHP] Re: Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Jim Giner
Huh? You have a problem with a person having a spam filter that requires one valid response to ensure that the mail from an address is from a real person ONE TIME ONLY? And what do you use to cut down on spam in your in-box? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] Re: Re: Top Posting

2011-07-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 22:52, Jim Giner jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com wrote: Huh?  You have a problem with a person having a spam filter that requires one valid response to ensure that the mail from an address is from a real person ONE TIME ONLY? Not that you're asking me, but yes, I do.