Re: (NIL) vs Nothing

2017-02-03 Thread pd
The reason for this difference is let behaviour: let binds a symbol to a value *inside* let expression but first saves values of binding symbols and once evaluated the expression it restores previous symbols values saved. So, when you wrap a expression in a let binding you are protecting the

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread dean
I'll bet most picolisp users are sufficiently motived to compile it but that means you're probably missing a lot of user's who'd appreciate it if it was easy to try. As an example I had a right game and failed miserably on Windows. BTW I'm still working on a response to your questions...In the

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread Terry Palfrey
Anyone ever tried the newLISPonRockets.com install? I don't know if that will give you ideas for a one touch install. On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:10 AM, František Fuka wrote: > I think that "adding PPA repository to my system" is not much easier than > "downloading Picolisp source

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread František Fuka
I think that "adding PPA repository to my system" is not much easier than "downloading Picolisp source and compiling it". You and I can do both. Unskilled users will struggle with both. We need a method for unskilled users that allows them just to download a file, click something, maybe type a

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread Bruno Franco
As for ubuntu, maybe you could make a Personal Package Archive (PPA). Its lets you make your own packages that can be downloaded by users using apt-get. Its as easy as downloading the normal packages, but the user must manually add the repository. Here's a useful link:

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Dean, > Assuming that Wine packages are more numerous than Picolisps...you could do > a native Windows version in Powerbasic for Wine. Not only would this up Well, but then we can go as well with ErsatzLisp, the Java version of PicoLisp. A full PicoLisp doesn't yet run on Windows, as

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread dean
The above addresses only your pil32 problem. I had no idea re pil64 on Android so glad you sorted it :) On 3 February 2017 at 13:06, dean wrote: > >the future of PicoLisp is dark. > That sounds about right...I run openbsd and they've just made v6.0 > Linux-

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi all, thanks for your kind words! Meanwhile it seems that the issue is solved, at least for pil64 on Android :) For pil32 under Clang there is probably no way in the long term. ♪♫ Alex -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread Lindsay John Lawrence
I hope it is not dark. I am just starting on my adventure using PicoLisp and having a wonderful time of it. Having said that, I have never used any of the distribution packages. Picolisp is simple to compile with minimal dependencies. Thank you for that as well Alex. On my laptop machine I have

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread František Fuka
I was never happy with the packaged Picolisp version being so much behind the official one. Is it much of a problem to provide .deb installers on the official site (for Debian and *buntu distros)? Or, an universal binary that checks all the required dependencies and compiles the latest version?

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

2017-02-03 Thread Edgaras
How much of a worry is that though? I would guess that no one installs it before finding about it on the web or by some other means. And pico lisp is mall enough to ether easily distribute binaries or just to compile yourself. Distros can not keep up with realises anyway, or sometimes you have