El Lunes, 9 de Junio de 2008, Modestas Vainius escribió:
> 5) (That's my personal opinion). Frankly, Debian *stable* (by definition)
> is not and has never been a good desktop distribution for people who care
> about newer software. Use other branches of Debian for that (e.g. testing).
+1
People
Hi,
Monday 09 June 2008, Miguel Figueiredo rašė:
> It may not be feasible and/or wished for kde but we do have sets of
> packages where versions coexist together,
You can use almost all KDE3 applications with KDE4 desktop except "the desktop
core" ones like kicker, konqueror, kdesktop etc.
> li
El Monday 09 June 2008 16:40:07 Miguel Figueiredo escribió:
> A Monday 09 June 2008 20:05:14, Ana Guerrero escreveu:
>
> [...]
>
> > You have 2 versions of every program: 2 konqueror, 2 kopete, etc. Some
> > distributions have handled install both version using non-standard paths,
> > that is not a
A Monday 09 June 2008 20:05:14, Ana Guerrero escreveu:
[...]
> You have 2 versions of every program: 2 konqueror, 2 kopete, etc. Some
> distributions have handled install both version using non-standard paths,
> that is not allowed in Debian and usually revert the changes made too much
> problems
Op maandag 09 juni 2008 21:05 schreef u:
> KDE 4.1 has not been released yet and it does not look like it will be ready
> on
> time.
What do you know that I don't?
Tom
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 09:07:41PM +0200, Tom Albers wrote:
> Op maandag 09 juni 2008 21:05 schreef u:
> > KDE 4.1 has not been released yet and it does not look like it will be
> > ready on
> > time.
>
> What do you know that I don't?
>
Toma, I was talking about being on time to be on Lenny and
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 09:05:14PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 07:30:24PM +0100, Miguel Figueiredo wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > KDE3 it's upstream 'dead' and KDE4 it's the current KDE.
> > Is it possible to let each user choose which KDE he/she wants to use?
> >
>
> No,
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 07:30:24PM +0100, Miguel Figueiredo wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> KDE3 it's upstream 'dead' and KDE4 it's the current KDE.
> Is it possible to let each user choose which KDE he/she wants to use?
>
No, we ship either KDE 3 or KDE 4. KDE 3 is not fully dead, there is security
sup
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 10:03:50PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> proposal is shipping KDE 3.5.9 with the KDE 4.1 development
> platform: kde4libs, kdepimlibs and kdebase-runtime.
>
For the record, after quick talk in IRC, we are finally going for KDE 3.5.9 in
Lenny.
Ana
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> You can be assured that with corporate users, the decision process about IT
> deployments is more sophisticated than "let's take this Linux CD, click
> on 'Desktop', and see what happens".
>
We don't have only corporate users. By the way, some IT deployments are
"let's use default not more".
I
Hi,
Maybe a bit late in the talk. Well, I'll express my opinion anyway ;)
stable users deserve a stable, well tested, rock solid KDE desktop.
KDE 4.1 is fine for power users and early KDE 4 adopters.
It contains some minor glitches and is not a complete KDE3 replacement yet.
Despite the fact tha
2008/6/6 Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Just take a look around any of the various bug lists for KDE, in Debian or
> upstream. How many months or years of testing do you think it took to find
> these? Considering that KDE 4 is pretty much new software, you should plan
> on spending that
On Friday 06 June 2008, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > - Huge advantage with kde4
> > Active upstream development, bugfixings and general work. Kde3 is dead.
>
> That point is moot for thinking about inclusion in a *stable*
> distribution. Noone disput
Hello Dear packagers, contributors and general public:
I chose this e-mail to answer because I think it's the most comprehensive
for the moment so I can remind of what topics to explain.
As you know or you don't (since you are not forced to) I have devoted not
much but a little time to De
It seems like we are agreeing to disagree. What's the way to get on from
here? Having the rest of the people in Uploaders speak up?
Vote? Let the issue rest and ship current packages being worse than we
shipped in etch?
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 14:52:10 +0200, Ana Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:47:54AM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On Thursday 05 June 2008, Ana Guerrero wrote:
>
> > Basically we can ship either KDE 3.5.9 or KDE 4.1. For some people in the
> > team it seems clear we should ship KDE 4.1, for some other it is clear we
> > should ship KDE 3.5.9. The
Am Freitag, 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Pino Toscano:
> Right now, the only way to have KDE installed by default in a new Debian
> installation is with a "cd1-kde" iso.
> I'll start to believe to Debian+KDE as potential "linux desktop" only when
> I see KDE considered in Debian at the same level of GNOME.
Hi,
> -Some arches do not like KDE 4
> Let's keep this short: KDE 4 needs to be built in all the release archs,
> and it actually does not.
It would be nice to have these reported to us, especially that Debian's archs
are more than the ones usually tested by developers and normal users.
We could
On Thursday, 5. June 2008, Ana Guerrero wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> We have been delaying taking a decision about this for too much time now,
> the freeze is coming up [0], and we need to have it clear, for our users,
> the release team and the rest of Debian.
FWIW, just my thoughts, my own concl
Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - Huge advantage with kde4
> Active upstream development, bugfixings and general work. Kde3 is dead.
That point is moot for thinking about inclusion in a *stable*
distribution. Noone disputes that kde4 is actually actively worked on,
while KDE3 has gone
Alle venerdì 06 giugno 2008, Peter Eisentraut ha scritto:
> But if KDE+Debian is supposed to be "The Linux Desktop",
With GNOME pre-installed silently with any flavour of the Debian installer?
Right now, the only way to have KDE installed by default in a new Debian
installation is with a "cd1-kde
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Ana Guerrero:
> We have been delaying taking a decision about this for too much time now,
> the freeze is coming up [0], and we need to have it clear, for our users,
> the release team and the rest of Debian.
Just take a look around any of the various bug lists
On Thursday 05 June 2008 16:03, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> We have been delaying taking a decision about this for too much time now,
> the freeze is coming up [0], and we need to have it clear, for our users,
> the release team and the rest of Debian.
>
> Basically we can ship either KDE 3
Hello everybody, I'm the new guy in the neighborhood (tm) :-) . As such, I'll
_try_ not to take a position here (I already did in IRC, but being the newbie
here, I think thatwasn't a wise decision).
First of all, Sune forget me for replying to your mail, I have been suscribed
to debian-qt-kde f
On Thursday 05 June 2008, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> We have been delaying taking a decision about this for too much time now,
> the freeze is coming up [0], and we need to have it clear, for our users,
> the release team and the rest of Debian.
True. We need to have it clear.
> Basical
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