Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Hmm, forums stopped sending me emails sometime during covid lockdown and I didn't notice since my LMS is temporarily out of action. I've unwatched and re-watched this thread, and posting this, so hopefully it'll start emailing me again. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Unlikely given LMS has no IPv6 support at all. LMS only looks up A records, and it does the lookup itself so the OS doesn't get chance to decided to look for as well. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
bpa wrote: > What version of the plugin ? > What are the plugin settings ? > > I suspect you'll have problems with 7.8.1 because most URLs are now > https (or http which is then redirected to https) and https support in > 7.8.1 is very old old (i.e. TLS SSL out of date) and minimal. I am still running 7.8.1 on Windows Home Server v1 with no apparent problems. I only listen to Classic FM live, and BBC using iPlayer plugin which is also mostly live. I don't use Listen Again much but when I do it works. I was planning an LMS upgrade but then the system disc died and needed replacing, I'm dealing with that and getting things stable again before upgrading LMS. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
When Apple bring out a new major version n, I usually wait for something like n.1.2 before upgrading to n. In this case it'll be more like 13.2.2 or even 13.3.2 I wait for, depending on how quickly 13.2 appears. Apple have made a complete horlicks of this. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
slartibartfast wrote: > What if you don't have internet access? Red Button is so crap it probably won't help you. My elderly aunt is a complete technophobe and will never have internet. Even she could manage teletext for a few things including the weather forecast, but she finds Red Button too difficult to use. I tried to walk her through it, and I found it so frustratingly slow I gave up in disgust. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Raymond Woodward wrote: > Closure of BBC digital services seems to be the 'in thing' at the moment > ... > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49715314 Well overdue in this case. Red Button was overtaken many years ago by the web, and never worked very well anyway. My dad used Teletext a lot to look things up and it worked well for him. He never took to Red Button the same way, he claimed it didn't have what he used to read on Teletext, and he only got that information back when he went online and could get it on the web. On the few occasions I tried to use Red Button I found it incredibly slow. Far slower than I remember Teletext being. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Is there nothing square and larger than 128 x 128 left? That's a pretty low resolution, it's going to look a bit crap. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Is this likely to affect us: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7429429/BBC-bosses-scrap-iPlayer-Radio-focus-Sounds-app-despite-complaints.html I suppose it depends as they push everyone to BBC Sounds whether the data feeds and radio streams behind iPlayer are kept. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
slartibartfast wrote: > So why do you need to clear the current playlist? Playing something new > replaces it. I've lost count of how often my album directory gets added to the end of the current playlist instead of replacing it. I find I have to pause what is playing, remove it from the playlist, and play my album. What a faff. I used the Music Folder view to play albums. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
pippin wrote: > "Stop" doesn't clear the current playlist, it just resets the currently > playing track to the beginning of the track and clears all buffers. > > "Power" has three functions: 1. On Squeezeboxes with an integrated amp, > it actually turns off the amp. 2. It switches the SB to the "Power off" > screen saver. 3. If a player is part of a sync group it stops playing > with the other players without dropping from the sync group. > > Why do you need to clear the playlist? If you "play" something (as > opposed to adding to the current playlist), it is automatically cleared. > If you usually build playlists and so want to add to a playlist instead > of playing new stuff and therefore use one of iPeng's "add" modes, you > could "hold" a track whenever you want to start a new playlist and > select "play" from the context menu which clears the playlist and plays > that track. I don't use playlists at all, they look like a needless complication to me. I wish they didn't exist. I play internet radio stations as if playing FM radio, or I play albums as if playing a CD. Playlists don't do anything useful, I don't understand the point of them. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
I've never understood power off in the LMS architecture, it doesn't seem to actually turn anything off. The problem with Pause is it doesn't remove anything from the current playlist. I too would like an actual Stop icon that stops what is playing and empties the playlist. The problem at present is there is always some junk in the playlist that I need to get rid of to play something new! Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin for playing MP3s from an RSS feed?
bpa wrote: > "Releases" are now only when Michael (usually with community > feedback/pressure ) feels that many updates/bug fixes have been done > since last release. There is no extra sets of tests or release > procedures - one day a nightly will be called a "release" - no "beta" > period etc. > > 7.9.1 was the last release but even then I know that many "https" > changes have been made in 7.9.2 nightlies as https is now de-facto for > many stations and sites. In addition OS supplied SSL/TLS libraries have > been updated and new levels of security are in use (e.g. TLS 1.2 & 1.3) > which may not be supported by 7.8. Thanks, that gives me food for thought. The reason I don't like installing nightlies is no-one else can install the same version to try to reproduce a problem or if I say "it works for me" and they want to install the same. Lack of a beta period does not invalidate any of that. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110858 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin for playing MP3s from an RSS feed?
castalla wrote: > No problems for my LMS - 7.9.2 Is 7.9.2 released yet or is it just nightlies? I prefer to install released versions. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110858 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin for playing MP3s from an RSS feed?
bpa wrote: > Although I don't understand the error message - I see a lot of "https" > in the files and support for https in 7.8 may be a bit patchy and SSL > libraries may possibly be out of date Damn, I might have to get round to installing 7.9. It will be several weeks before I have time to do that though, or rather time to cope with the risk of it going wrong and having to sort things out or revert. I know the authors of this podcast, and I'm not surprised it's all https. He'd make it IPv6 only if he thought he'd have any listeners left. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110858 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin for playing MP3s from an RSS feed?
Do the episodes play for you? Got round to installing this, and while it can see all the episodes they won't play. LMS 7.8.0, Windows Home Server v1, Receiver as player. There are errors in the server log, I have no idea what they mean: frame 15: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::loop (slimserver.pl line 708) frame 16: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 61) frame 17: PerlSvc::Startup (/PerlSvc.pm line 95) frame 18: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0) frame 19: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0) [19-08-17 20:11:00.3030] Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (587) Error: Dealing with single audiodir (D:\shares\Music) instead of mediadirs ( "https://tekeli.li/podcast/irtd_080.mp3";, [ "D:\\shares\\Music", "D:\\shares\\Videos", "D:\\shares\\Downloads\\Streamable", ], ) [19-08-17 20:11:00.3043] Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (587) Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Utils::Log::logBacktrace (/Slim/Utils/Misc.pm line 587) frame 1: Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 1473) frame 2: Slim::Control::Commands::playlistXitemCommand (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 1883) frame 3: (eval) (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 1883) frame 4: Slim::Control::Request::execute (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 880) frame 5: Slim::Control::Request::executeRequest (/Slim/Player/Client.pm line 654) frame 6: Slim::Player::Client::execute (/Slim/Control/XMLBrowser.pm line 698) frame 7: Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuery_done (/Slim/Control/XMLBrowser.pm line 1552) frame 8: Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuerySubFeed_done (/Slim/Formats/XML.pm line 347) frame 9: Slim::Formats::XML::gotViaHTTP (/Slim/Networking/SimpleAsyncHTTP.pm line 363) frame 10: Slim::Networking::SimpleAsyncHTTP::onBody (/Slim/Networking/Async/HTTP.pm line 479) frame 11: Slim::Networking::Async::HTTP::_http_read_body (/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 139) frame 12: (eval) (/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 123) frame 13: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 184) frame 14: (eval) (/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 184) frame 15: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::loop (slimserver.pl line 708) frame 16: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 61) frame 17: PerlSvc::Startup (/PerlSvc.pm line 95) frame 18: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0) frame 19: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0) [19-08-17 20:12:13.1311] Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (587) Error: Dealing with single audiodir (D:\shares\Music) instead of mediadirs ( "https://tekeli.li/podcast/irtd_076.mp3";, [ "D:\\shares\\Music", "D:\\shares\\Videos", "D:\\shares\\Downloads\\Streamable", ], ) [19-08-17 20:12:13.1324] Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (587) Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Utils::Log::logBacktrace (/Slim/Utils/Misc.pm line 587) frame 1: Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 1473) frame 2: Slim::Control::Commands::playlistXitemCommand (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 1883) frame 3: (eval) (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 1883) frame 4: Slim::Control::Request::execute (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 880) frame 5: Slim::Control::Request::executeRequest (/Slim/Player/Client.pm line 654) frame 6: Slim::Player::Client::execute (/Slim/Control/XMLBrowser.pm line 698) frame 7: Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuery_done (/Slim/Control/XMLBrowser.pm line 1552) frame 8: Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuerySubFeed_done (/Slim/Formats/XML.pm line 347) frame 9: Slim::Formats::XML::gotViaHTTP (/Slim/Networking/SimpleAsyncHTTP.pm line 363) frame 10: Slim::Networking::SimpleAsyncHTTP::onBody (/Slim/Networking/Async/HTTP.pm line 479) frame 11: Slim::Networking::Async::HTTP::_http_read_body (/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 139) frame 12: (eval) (/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 123) frame 13: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 184) frame 14: (eval) (/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm line 184) frame 15: Slim::Networking::IO::Select::loop (slimserver.pl line 708) frame 16: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 61) frame 17: PerlSvc::Startup (/PerlSvc.pm line 95) frame 18: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0) frame 19: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0) [19-08-17 20:12:23.6155] Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (587) Error: Dealing with single audiodir (D:\shares\Music) instead of mediadirs ( "https://tekeli.li/podcast/irtd_076.mp3";, [ "D:\\shares\\Music", "D:\\shares\\Videos", "D:\\shares\\Downloads\\Streamable", ], ) [19-08-17 20:12:23.6168] Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (587) Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Utils::Log::logBacktrace (/Slim/Utils/Misc.pm line 587) frame 1: Slim::Utils::Misc::fixPath (/Slim/Control/Commands.pm line 1473) frame 2: Slim::Control::Commands::playlistXitemCommand (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 1883) frame 3: (eval) (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 1883) frame 4: Slim::Control::Request::execute (/Slim/Control/Request.pm line 880) frame 5: Slim::Control::Request::executeRequest (/Slim/Player/Client.pm line 654) frame 6: Slim::Player::Client::execute (/Slim/Control/XMLBrowser.pm line 698) frame 7: Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuery_done (/Slim/Control/XMLBro
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin for playing MP3s from an RSS feed?
castalla wrote: > Why not just use the Podcast plugin from Logitech? I didn't know about that plugin. Thanks! Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110858 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Plugin for playing MP3s from an RSS feed?
A monthly podcast I follow has an RSS feed. At the moment to play the podcasts I download the MP3 file, save it to a directory on LMS, and then play it. But this means a delay in listening while I get chance to do that. Is there a plugin that will take the RSS feed and let me play any of the episodes? Alternatively something that just scraped the MP3 links out of the web page would also do the job. The podcast is: https://tekeli.li/podcast/ Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110858 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Raymond Woodward wrote: > https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/entries/37e4e3f6-fbd2-4c14-8d72-7f7139641582 One of the reasons I use the iPlayer plugin is because it does NOT make me sign in to my BBC account. But this blog entry makes it clear the BBC don't like that sort of thing. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
bpa wrote: > Because of problems with sourceforge.net (e.g. timeouts on accessing > repo URL) I have been duplicating the repo URLon github.io - but in > this case I forget to update the sourceforge repo. Now fixed - I hope. > > You should should see 3.2 update availability soon - either after a LMS > poll or LMS restart. I wondered why I couldn't see the new iPlayerExtras stuff. But I thought I'd done something wrong. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
I'm still on LMS 7.8.0 (on WHS v1). I've stayed on 7.8.0 simply because it has been working for years and I saw no reason to break a working system. I foresee no issue upgrading to 7.9 except I'd have to work out which release, I don't like running nightly builds. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
bpa wrote: > So it looks like instead of fixing the problem with bad HLS / DASH URLs > arising from BBCSounds - BBC have added the BBCsounds MP3 URL - > possibly with the intention of removing the DASH/HLS URLs in the future. Why are companies obsessed with blasted MP3? It's ancient. Are there really devices that can run the BBCSounds App but can't play AAC? I doubt it very much. But no we'll just waste bandwidth and/or give people poorer quality audio using this old and inefficient codec. Sigh. The Proms live streamed in FLAC has never felt more distant. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
slartibartfast wrote: > Quite often when I open the plugins tab your repository fails to connect > and times out. This only seems to happen the first time I open the tab, > subsequent openings being trouble free. Any idea why? > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk DNS lookup takes a long time on first opening. On subsequent openings the DNS result is cached so there is no delay. Just a guess. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
slartibartfast wrote: > Regarding the "iPlayer" name I am amazed that Apple didn't try to stop > the BBC using it. [emoji3] iPlayer has been around for 10 years as a full service, and longer as a public beta. The BBC got in early enough that Apple can't do anything about the name, except perhaps buy it. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Not to worry, a new manager of BBC radio will be along sooner or later and the BBC Sounds obsession with being "Cool wi' da yoof!" will change into some other random obsession. As for BBC Sounds, the "iPlayer" brand name has global recognition. Throwing that away and trying to start again with a new name seems like absolute madness to me, but what do I know? The BBC squander the licence fee in mysterious ways. Meanwhile as bpa says, all we can do is accept what we get. We have zero ability to change BBC policy. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
bpa wrote: > Interesting > > When I try the R4 Logo separately > http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_fourfm/600x600.png > > I get a "Access Denied" - It look like BBC have shut off access to the > R4 logo. In the past they have done this when changing logo or hosting > service and also just mistakes. > > Since only R4 and World are affected - maybe just a temporary mistake or > an update whose DNS entry has not been distributed yet. "Access Denied" for me from within the UK too, thought I'd try since I know you are outside tbe UK bpa. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
kidstypike wrote: > My LMS is on a Pi/piCorePlayer, I changed the file Plugin.pm, and I now > have both BBC iPlayer and Extras under My Apps. Rebooting the Pi hasn't > made any difference, Extras is still there under My Apps. I deleted My Apps from the main menu, I never used anything that was under it. It's all under Radio and Favourites for me. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Working here, but the scaling of the graphics to square seems to be cutting things off. There are lots of resolutions on the list, but I was hoping to find an option which simply displays the original graphics from the BBC as is without changing it at all. There doesn't appear to be one, at least not by name. I'm usually looking at them on Squeezebox Controller. I don't care that they're often not square, but I want to see all of it. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
bpa wrote: > I suspect a compromise. Many podcasts are talky so HD is as important > also users want to download so space may be at the premium. It may be a > way to differentiate - "broadcast" from "download". Space at a premium? Really? I find these days audio is so small compared to other things (video, lots of photos etc) that the size of audio is barely worth considering. I just don't bother counting audio when I do size calculations. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
slartibartfast wrote: > If you play them via iPlayer Extra from the alphabetical search rather > than podcasts then they are 320kbps AAC. That's because those are not the podcast version. Thanks very much for the tip! Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
Do the BBC say anywhere why the podcasts are only in 128kbps MP3? That's a step down even from the non UK streams and a considerable reduction in quality compared to UK 320kbps AAC streams. A few years ago it was all about HD radio and then the FLAC Radio 3 Concert Sound for the proms, it was encouraging to see the push for better sound quality. It seems a big reversal to suddenly go to only 128kbps MP3 for some things. I know some players can only cope with MP3 but they could use 320kbps, or offer two streams. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
bpa wrote: > What format is Roberts playing - MP3, HLS or DASH ? > > The fix sorts out the delay - so now Windows is now like Linux stream. > > DASH audio is delivered in 6 sec chunks. The plugin has to calculate > the timestamp of the first chunk to play, it looks like plugin is at the > "bleeding" edge of the playable stream which means sometimes it could > fail. > > I notice that Plugin DASH stream is a few secs ahead of the DASH stream > playing in a browser windows. What happens on an LMS too old to support the fix? Does it just behave as before ie. as if you hadn't fixed it? This would be fine for me since I never had a problem in the first place (LMS 7.8.0 on WHS v1 Intel Atom N270). Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer - possible fix for live stream start delay on Windows systems
bpa wrote: > I just tested on my low end Windows system - an old XP laptop which has > a 1.7GHz 2 core Pentium 1.25Gb ram > > Playing live Windows stream > Without the fix - start delay is either 30 secs or use 1 min delay in > setting for immediate playback. > With the fix - immediate playback with no delay in settings. That is very similar in spec to my WHS v1 Intel Atom LMS system. I have the defaults for delays in iPlayer plugin, I don't know what the defaults are and I can't check at present. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109902 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer - possible fix for live stream start delay on Windows systems
I can't help with testing this, I use a WHS v1 server on an Intel Atom processor which does not suffer startup issues. And I'm on LMS 7.8.0 anyway which can't use the fix. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109902 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support
whitman wrote: > Bpa, I saw in the dead "BBCiPlayer plugin - a guick fix guide" thread > you said yesterday << V2.1.0 of the BBCIplayer plugin is the latest. Use > this URL. > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pro...lease-repo.xml >>. I'm still > using 1.6.0, should I switch to 2.1.0? I was confused by that too, I thought 1.6.1 is the latest iPlayer plugin. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109826 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > The HLS problem in Oct was with Listen Again not with Live - did > something happen with live HLS ? No, I remembered it the wrong way round in my haste to try to help the poster. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Shellness wrote: > I am just back from holiday and the only bit of the iPlayer plugin that > is now working is the Listen Live mp3 one, the others just give the > thumbnail and a zero below it (i.e. Listen Live UK & non-UK, Listen Live > alt CDN UK & non-UK, and Listen Again). BBCiPlayer Extras does the > same. > > I have > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml > and http://sbplugins.servies.net/repo.xml installed, with "Update > plugins automatically" ticked. > > All worked fine on 16th Nov. Any ideas, please? Ensure you have Dash before HLS in the iPlayer plugin settings, there has been an HLS format change by the BBC that the plugin does not support. That said, I thought the problem was isolated to live streams. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
The BBC quickly reverted the 30 days history to 7 days. It was on this thread or another one a few weeks back. So no point loading a different menu. If you want 30 day history use iPlayerExtras plugin (which requires iPlayer plugin to work). Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Rats, we lost the 30 days listen again. Back to 7 days which is so short as to be of little value to me, which is why I didn't notice when listen again was broken recently. iPlayerExtras here I come again. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Paul Webster wrote: > Looks like Reciva (nowadays part of Qualcomm) is still using it - a > recent post from them I know a couple of the Reciva guys in Cambridge who work for Qualcomm. I said something about Dash a year or two ago (I forget when) and he was very surprised to hear that LMS iPlayer plugin supported it. He quizzed me about the technical details which I know nothing about, I just told him it's all open source so go and look at it if you can read perl and emailed a link to the announce thread on here. I have no idea if they ever had a look or did any Dash work. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
PasTim wrote: > What would be do without bpa and a handful of others giving loads of > their their time for free? On the rare occasions I want to record Classic FM rather than listen to it live I record my DAB tuner or the MP3 internet feed to my S-VHS VCR. All of Classic FM's listen again feeds have dreadful audio quality as does their Freeview channel so I can't just use my PVR. I don't use their FM feed as it has poor reception in this area. I imagine without the help of these wonderful people I would be back to similar techniques for BBC Radio. I still have my FM tuner, and my S-VHS VCR has a perfectly functioning timed recording feature. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > AFAIK Not many internet radio appliances use "Listen Again" feed - > possibly used by custom home audio system. Which leads me back to why change it at all if it is hardly used? I'd have thought the BBC were hoping it would die quietly due to lack of use. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > This thread was started as I was testing in a new version not supporting > an old version and I only wanted eager users to test. > > New threads are often started becuase many users feel their problem > won't get attention in a long support thread - unfortunately new threads > don't always have good titles. Whereas I assume you watch the existing iPlayer threads (possibly with email notifications) but won't necessarily see new threads, so a problem is more likely to get attention if it is posted here. New threads can disappear in a mass of other new threads. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Oh and why did people start new threads? It's a iPlayer plugin problem, surely the right place to post it is in the existing iPlayer support threads? I didn't see this because I look for new threads about once a year. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I wonder how many hardware internet radios have had their listen again broken by this change? I suspect all of them? In which case why are the manufacturers not frothing at the mouth? Or are there no hardware internet radios doing listen again, in which case why did the BBC change this at all? Or was there a way they plugin code could have been written that would work with both old and new BBC feeds? I'm just confused how this hasn't broken everything else that uses the feed. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > Just as important is the version of Perl as some versions of supporting > Perl module for SSL do not cater for all versions of TLS and AFAICT BBC > do not support SSL2 or SSL3. Perl Version is not an issue with Windows > system as Perl and associated updated Perl modules are all bundled in > the exe. This is one of several reasons I run LMS on Windows. I don't want the hassle of having to sort out Perl versions on the system each time I update LMS or the iPlayer plugin. That's the sort of thing installers are supposed to handle automatically in my view. There may be good reasons it can't be sorted out, but it is still a failing somewhere in my view. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > In BBCiPlayer Settings. Change the last part of URL in the "URL for > menu.opml replacement" from "default-menu.opml" to either > "default-15day-menu.opml" or "default-30day-menu.opml" and then click > the "Load Menu from this URL" button. Sorry there is no feedback on the > click. If you re-enter the Radio/BBCiPlayer menu from Home - the new > opml will take effect. LMS caches menu generation so if you do 2 changes > in quick succession, a LMS restart may be necessary to clear cache I followed this and 30 day listen again is working for me now, thankyou. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > You missed out a lot - nearly had a mob with pitchforks and torches > ready to march on BBC. >From Ireland? It's a long way, and the torches will go out crossing the Irish Sea. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Paul Webster wrote: > FYI ... I recently saw a test URL for BBC HLS that required https > > If that really happens in production for all On Demand then it might > force a few more to upgrade to 7.9 and hopefully they could be persuaded > to change plugin at the same time. I'm on 7.8.0 running on WHS V1. I've not upgraded to 7.9.x simply because I've seen no benefit to doing so apart from playing DSD files and I don't have any of those. Does 7.8.0 not handle https? Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
There is no working old iPlayer plugin version 1.3, users have to manually apply about 3 patches to the file. I know mherger moved the repo for the old 1.3 as the previous ones stopped working. But even with the newer repo I'm not sure bpa can put out an iPlayer 1.3, it was Triodes and maybe only he can issue a new one or maybe now only mherger can (I'm not sure what the restrictions are). In addition to which, I suspect bpa doesn't want to be responsible for merging all the 1.3 patches and issuing an updated 1.3 and then dealing with the support problems as they arise. Better in my view to let 1.3 wither on the vine and do no work about it. What I was asking is if it had already completely withered, but if live play still works I guess not. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > Not the Live parts as HLS will still work if the user has kept up with > the patches. > > It would be nice to use the opportunity to settle on one (1.6) or two > versions (1.6 & 1.3). There are a lot of people who don't like changing > a working system and any forced change means support has to be given > which can be onerous. I was wondering if now was the time to change the default iPlayer plugin repo in LMS if the "pre bpa" versions had stopped working completely. But if playing live using HLS still works (with plugin patches) then I guess not, there will be some people that only play live radio. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Does this BBC change finally kill off the old "pre bpa" versions of the iPlayer plugin? (unless the user doesn't use the parts that are broken). Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > 1. Priority was to get a updated version of plugin providing the same > functionality out asap. I hadn't noticed anything was broken with the previous version, but it's been a few days since I used listen again. I thought 1.6.0 was to support a new feature but the old one was still working. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I'm running iPlayer v1.6.0 on LMS 7.8.0. But I still see only the last 7 days dates listed in listen again for Radio 2 and Radio 3, I was expecting 30 days now. Do I have to turn something on? Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
My backup is an FM tuner for live radio, and a Freeview PVR for listen again. Falls down a bit due to having to plan in advance, but it means things I regularly use listen again for I just set to record on Freeview as well. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
BBC Apps and web site originally only went back 7 days so the external feed matched. Then everything else got upgraded to 30 days and the external feed we use got left as it was. I don't believe it was any more complicated than that, apart from possible complications that third party(ies) seem to be involved in maintaining the external feed and may not have wanted to do any work to upgrade it. There may also have been concerns that some third party equipment couldn't handle 30 days of data on the external feed, maybe enough new hardware is out there now that this is no longer a concern? Personally I suspect some of the third party hardware manufacturers that use the external feed pushed for this. They probably didn't like that BBC Apps and web site could do 30 days and their internet radio hardware players could not. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Does iPlayerExtras serve any purpose now that the main schedule supports 30 days? The categories were already greatly reduced compared to the past. I'm pleased by this change, it makes it seem less like the BBC are abandoning third parties. After the Nitro damp squid I wondered how much of a future we had. And thanks for updating the plugin to match! Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
Raymond Woodward wrote: > http://radiotoday.co.uk/2018/06/bbc-sounds-app-to-replace-bbc-iplayer-radio/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+radiotoday+%28Radio+Today+-+News%29 Yeah right, just like UK Radio Player was going to replace iPlayer Radio and just like the schedule data iPlayer Extras uses was going to die in May. I'll believe it when it actually happens. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Update not showing for me. iPad Air 2, iOS 11.3.1 Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
The BBC block a number of common VPN providers, specifically because they don't want people doing what you are trying to do. And given you don't pay the BBC licence fee the BBC are entirely within their rights to restrict the bit rate you can receive. So don't be surprised if it doesn't work. The flaw in the BBC's scheme is they don't provide a way for non UK citizens to pay the BBC licence fee and receive the benfits. But then they'd have to work out rights issues, ie. a 320kbps AAC stream but with the content they don't have a non UK licence for removed. I can see why the BBC stick to just two options ie. UK full fat and international rights restricted and bit rate restricted. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayerExtra v2.0
Raymond Woodward wrote: > Not that I am aware of. > > Assuming the Beeb do as you suggest then Iplayer Extras will be broken > and we will be left with the standard listen again for seven days via > the main Iplayer plug in ... The first post on this thread also gives the date as 1 May 2018. We always knew this probably had a 1 year life. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107477 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayerExtra v2.0
So the schedule feeds iPlayer Extras uses are supposed to disappear on 1 May 2018. get_iplayer is discussing the same issue. Is there any sign of a replacement API from the BBC? get_iplayer thread: https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-1749-post-7639.html Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107477 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Owen Smith wrote: > I only have one account and one iOS device. iPeng was bought on this > iPad Air2. No I haven't tried uninstalling and re-installing yet. It has updated now, I have iPeng 9.4. Must have been an app store problem. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
I only have one account and one iOS device. iPeng was bought on this iPad Air2. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
pippin wrote: > That would be an App Store problem. Rebooting the device can help. Or > uninstalling and reinstalling the App Rebooted iPad, still won't download. I understand it's probably nothing to do with iPeng, I reported it in case others are having the same problem. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Update to iPeng 9.4 is failing on my iPad Air2, it starts downloading and doesn't work, I don't get any error but tbe update is always there again. I'm on iPeng 9.3.4 and iOS 11.2.5. I don't have a player on my network at the moment. Due to DIY the network to my Receiver is unplugged. But would that stop me being able to upgrade iPeng? Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > V1.3.1alpha3 of the BBCiPlayer plugin is years out of date and is not > the subject of this thread. But it is the version you get with the default repos on a fresh LMS install. I have been suggesting for a year or two that this is a bad situation. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
pippin wrote: > Also, please don't just open LMS to the internet, it's getting hacked. > I'd recommend to use a VPN or at least set username/password although > the latter is definitely not very secure. > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107165-IMPORTANT-Stop-forwarding-your-LMS-ports-to-the-internet! I had a VPN. Apple broke it with iOS 10. I wonder how many other people have the same problem? Apparently Apple felt the protocol I was using wasn't secure enough. Well it was a lot more secure than no VPN and just opening ports. Sigh. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
brookheather wrote: > Thanks - I now have it working again using 1.5.3 - it's now playing > catchup at 320kbps as well. That's the biggest obvious benefit of Dash. HLS provides catchup at 128kbps max. Dash also makes less onerous demands on your broadband, especially for DNS lookups. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer plugin - a guick fix guide
Why not use the newer Dash capable iPlayer plugin, that doesn't need any patching? Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103312 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Does the iOS version of iPlayer Radio play DASH or HLS ? No idea, but it doesn't matter. If the BBC want more FLAC players, they control their own Apps and can change them to handle whatever network protocol and audio codec they want. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > The question now is whether BBC will do another trial or decide to > provide a full R3 service. I suspect another trial hoping to stimulate > implementation of more "players". Since the Jan trial there is now VLC > and ffmpeg and maybe a few others although the user has to find the > right build. The simplest way for the BBC to get more players is to add FLAC support to their own iOS and Android Apps. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
I note Radio 3 FLAC (live) has stopped working now the Proms have finished. I assume the BBC have simply turned the feed off. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
rbz5416 wrote: > Looks like I'm stuffed until I can get on a proper PC. > > But given this thread was started in November why would the March > release of 7.9.0 have 1.3.1? I can access the entire of the plugins menus including changing repo urls from my iPad. Not sure why you can't scroll down. There is no connection between what repos current LMS server releases use and what current iPlayer is on. LMS still ships with a much older repo. I tried once to persuade the LMS maintainer to update it, but he asked for advice on what repo to use instead and people couldn't reach agreement. I feel bpa is too modest and defers to the last version the long term iPlayer plugin maintainer released rather too readily, but that version is no longer of any real use. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > The pilot in Mar/April could only really be played in Firefox. Now in > addition to browser there are version of vlc, ffmpeg as well as LMS that > can play Dash/Flac. BBC should also be able to determine the number of > individuals who have listened using Dash Flac. I think people playing Radio 3 with VLC and ffmpeg constitute such a tiny fraction of listeners as to be irrelevant. Sadly the same probably goes for LMS these days, I suspect there aren't enough of us to make an impact. And none of the other hardware internet radio suppliers got their act together in time, which sadly isn't a surprise. What matters is people playing with web browsers, and much more importantly iPlayer Radio app on various platforms. But I believe iPlayer Radio doesn't support Dash Flac, so this is a very early trial of the infrastructure in a situation where they know they're not going to be swamped with more listeners than they can cope with. But that raises the question of how they can possibly judge the appeal of lossless Radio 3 with such a small subset of the listeners. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
d6jg wrote: > When I can't use iPeng when travelling I use FLAC Player but although it > works OK its download mechanism and playlist management is cumbersome - > nevertheless its the best local FLAC Player currently on iOS IMHO. I use Golden Ear for that job, I tried FLAC Player several years ago and its download mechanism was awful. Golden Ear has an FTP server you can turn on, which made downloads to it very easy. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Not sure what you mean "don't work very well" - they are just AAC > streams (speeds depends on on UK vs non-UK) so they should play. > However you may mean the "content" doesn't give the intended spatial > awareness. Not sure about that but ambient noises can be very > distratcing - there is loads of coughing in the Ravel clip. Sorry, I should have been clearer. The binaural streams and local FLAC files play fine. I meant that the binaural surround effect doesn't work well for me, I can hardly hear it. Distracting sounds aren't the issue, if they were at I'd least I'd know it was working! Maybe it's because I don't use headphones or earphones much. In stereo it all sounds inside my head, which is weird because that is never how music is in real life. So I listen with speakers almost exclusively, and I'm a big fan of quadraphonic recordings. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
ajs6000 wrote: > Excellent, I've added these to the BBCiPlayerExtra menu and they work > fine. > > Many thanks for this. > > Now I just need to decide on which headphones to use! I've tried a few binaural streams before and some FLAC recordings (B&W Society of Sound) and they don't work very well for me. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > If you are playing the Flac stream on Radio 3 - don't forget to rate the > service. If you want to get good audio quality extended/expanded you > need to provide feedback. > > Don't be passive listener and just hope - rate the service > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/radio-3-concert-sound2/rate I gave feedback. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
I think it's clearer to say 1.4.10 doesn't work reliably on non ancient versions of Windows. It worked absolutely perfectly for me on WHS v1 (which is Server 2003 / Win XP based). Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Sample rate is 48kHz, Sample size is 16 bit, 2 channels > > 48,000 * 16 * 2 = 1,536,000 That's the bit rate of the PCM when the FLAC stream is expanded. The FLAC stream itself will run at anything from 700 to 1000kbps depending on how complex the PCM is and how loud it is (modern loudness wars music tends to get less compression out of FLAC). Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Editorp wrote: > Thanks bpa, yes I'm sure you're right, a simple reboot may well have > sorted me out without the hassle. However, I learned a few things. > I think my main issue is that I'm hanging on to an old machine that's > well past it's sell by date! LMS works better on XP than it does on Windows 10. Don't be in a hurry to upgrade just because your OS is out of date. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
The Touch can play AAC natively, whereas the Classics and Duet need to transcode it (probably to FLAC). There's an option in iPlayer plugin for whether to allow transcoding, make sure you haven't turned that off. Others will probably suggest playing some non iPlayer AAC streams to see where the fault is. I don't know where those streams are. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayerExtra v2.0
Well I've taken the plunge to get iPlayer Extras 2.0.0, I'm using that and iPlayer 1.5.4.4. They are both working fine with LMS 7.8.0 on my WHS v1 Atom N270 based server. I have noticed that Dash 320kbps AAC streams (I don't use anything else) start faster than 1.4.10. In particular they start in one go, with 1.4.10 I got a brief burst of music then a quick re-buffer then the music came back and ran continuously. Now it just starts and plays, which is an improvement since getting to the "just plays" is faster even if there is a slightly longer initial delay (or maybe I'm imaginging that). Radio 3 FLAC doesn't work of course, I expected that it's all turned off at the BBC end. I am told on the get_iplayer mailing list that when FLAC comes back for the Proms it will be for all Radio 3 output 24/7, not just the Proms. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107477 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
drmatt wrote: > To be fair, a little effort was always required to keep the Squeezebox > infrastructure alive, it was always criticised for being a bit too > techy. As it transitions way past "supported" and into the ether you can > expect this to get much, much worse, not better. In my view the system > is still amazingly easy to deal with considering how long it's not been > officially supported. I've found the reverse to be true, keeping LMS working has got easier since it became unsupported by Logitech. I suspect because instead of a company adding lots of new and potentially pointless features to try to get sales of hardware, it's just enthusiasts maintaining it to keep it working and fixing stuff that should have been sorted out years ago. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Just for the record, iPlayer v1.4.10 works fine on my WHS v1 server (LMS 7.8.0), streaming live 320kbps AAC Dash to a Receiver ie. uses transcoding. As I understand it this is just about the most troublesome combination on Windows (with the possible exception of the same combination using HLS) and yet it gives me no trouble at all. In mitigation it's an Atom N270 system ie. slow, and running XP era OS. As I understand it faster hardware and/or newer Windows both cause increasing problems which iPlayer v1.5.* aims to resolve. The reason I haven't upgraded is confusion over repos. There are so many, and the 1.5 series were all labelled "test" or "debug" initially that I couldn't work out what to install for a stable supported v1.5. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
iPlayer Extras is deceased, it is no more. The BBC removed the meta data feeds it used. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayerExtra v1.0
The fact that there are multiple 1.5.* repos is another reason I'm on 1.4.* I just don't know which 1.5.* I would use. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72709 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayerExtra v1.0
bpa wrote: > All it means is that I have to fix the bug in 1.5.* in order to play > dash URLs which I wasn't aware of - but I also want to be clear that I > wasn't maintaining parallel versions when 1.5.* supports all platforms > whereas 1.4.* isn't good for Windows users (i.e. no Flac support in > 1.4.*) > > Some users of 1.4.* said they didn't want autoupdates so I left it to > them to pick their time to update and not force an update on them I was under the impression the 1.5.* http 1.1 versions were still regarded as under development and not finished. You've mentioned some error handling issues a few times. I've been staying on 1.4.* because it works fine for me on WHS v1, and I've been waiting for 1.5.* to be declared mainstream rather than experimental. I may have got the wrong end of the stick. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72709 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
As to whack-a-mole, I think the BBC have decided they only want people using Apps or the BBC web site because they have tighter control of those. They probably regret ever officially supporting third party hardware internet radios, the feed for them (which this plugin uses) probably only still exists because the BBC don't think they can get away with annoying the manufacturers. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I like the idea of the plugin accumulating 7 day schedue information until it has 30 days worth. It's reasonably elegant, and it uses the official published feed for third parties so I don't see how the BBC can do something to break it. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
bpa wrote: > No - I was hoping BBC might announce a new API when shutting the old > ones down but you can see BBC have removed a lot of that functionality > from their web pages - no more A-Z of programs and have no internal use > for the old APIs. They are embracing "responsive" web stuff which does > nothing for me. The biggest loss for me from Extras is the 30 day Listen Again window, we're down to 7 days now on the official feed which is rather paltry. Are they deliberately trying to drive users away from third party internet radios and players to get people to use Apps or the BBC web site? Because it certainly feels like it. I've started recording BBC radio programmes on my Freeview PVR again, a 7 day catchup window just isn't enough for me. This unfortunately means poorer sound quality compared to the 320kbps AAC iPlayer feeds. And I also miss the A-Z of programmes. I don't care when The Early Music Show was broadcast, I just know that's what I want to play so A-Z is easier to find it. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
See this for the BBC announcement on removing the feeds that iPlayerExtras uses: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08mdjyb.xml Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Bit harsh. This is a small bug which nobody else has noticed so it isn't > that serious. 7.9 fixes problems that exist in 7.8. This is not the only glitch in 7.9.0. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > There is a behaviour change in 7.9 compared to 7.8. > > I think this is a 7.9 bug as it makes the Browser client "More" call > the plugin routine with different values compared to a SB Touch "more" > button - this is inconsistent and in 7.8 it is consistent. > > I'll do a workaround for the plugin but I think I'll need to chase down > the origin of the 7.9 change. The more I here about 7.9 (released 7.9.0 or nightly) the more inclined I am to stay with 7.8.0 release version which has been utterly solid for several years. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
ian_heys wrote: > Good reading on this here: > > http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/BBC/PCMandNICAM/History.html > > And more general reading on Jim LeSurf's contributions to HiFi News > here: > > http://www.audiomisc.co.uk That first url is where I got my information originally. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
PasTim wrote: > The Radio 3 flac sound really is rather good, listening to evening > concerts, but coming a bit late for me as my hearing fades :( > > No matter. I know this is a bit off topic, but I'd be interested to > know if the BBC record straight to digital, and therefore whether FM > broadcasts are originally digital and converted to analogue, or vice > versa? For reasons to do with new LED light bulbs interfering with FM > I've had to use DAB quite a lot lately, and even I can hear it's not a > patch on FM. Flac via LMS or iPlayer on the other hand seems good to > me, and doesn't suffer interference (just may not work well when Trump > starts WWIII and the internet crashes out). I have an LED panel lighting my kitchen that puts annoying amounts of noise on my FM reception, even with a loft aerial. I've tried ferrite chokes on the light panel cables but to no avail. It's incredibly annoying, but at least iPlayer AAC at 320kbps sounds better than FM anyway so I'm not losing out really. FM broadcasts are distributed digitally around the transmitters using NICAM. So there is already a digital section in the middle of the transmission network, and has been since the 1980s as they started to build out the digital distribution system for FM. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
The 365kbps is a lie. FLAC is lossless, it takes as much or as little bit rate to represent it as necessary. You can throw more cpu at the task to compress a little better, but you absolutely cannot achieve any particular target bit rate. I saw something (linked off get-iplayer mailing list probably) from the BBC saying they're seeing averages around 500kbps but there are peaks up to 1000kbps. This doesn't surprise me at all based on what my CDs rip to as FLAC. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
PasTim wrote: > I look forward to trying it :) The get-iplayer mailing list says there is only two weeks of the FLAC trial left. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Part of the problem is there is not enough detail. With AAC, because of > thr SB players, after unwrapping I had to add in special header > throughout the audio stream. I have a feeling somehting similar is need > for the SB players but I don't know Flac well to identify the exact > problem and what needs to be fixed up in the stream. Is it possible to transcode the BBC FLAC on the LMS server? Either FLAC to FLAC if that's possible or if not FLAC to WAV should work. That should avoid needing to add extra headers. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Have people seen this FLAC trial for Radio 3: http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/radio-3-concert-sound/inside-story It uses Dash. How easy or hard would be it to add his to the Dash iPlayer plugin? Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
