Re: [NF] YouTube is written in Python

2006-12-15 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:37:47 +, Peter Cushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (all you can eat for £4) I can eat a whole lot for 4 squids as well I find! -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin

Re: [NF] Idiots are everywhere

2006-12-15 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:35:56 -0600, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: joiner fields That's so crazy it just might work! -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service ___ Post Messages

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Tristan Leask
How does that work!? You are not getting paid and you may be working a 40 hour week! Sorry, I couldn't come in to work today because I couldn't afford the bus! Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Posted At: 15

Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

2006-12-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 14 December 2006 16:20, Helio W. wrote: Hi Helio! You probably should have typed a new subject line. This has nothing to do with the thread. US scientists reject interference Some 10,000 US researchers have signed a statement protesting about political interference in the

Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

2006-12-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 14 December 2006 17:27, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: I imagine they say yes master... Hi Virgil! I was thinking more along the lines of Heil, or cheers. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 14 December 2006 03:30, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Virgil, Here's to hoping it never happens to you and I'd drink to it, but the cupboard is bare, for now grin My own job at EDS was recently outsourced to India. However, there are still plenty of jobs and a lot of work in the

Re: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 14 December 2006 07:33, Virgil Bierschwale wrote: lower standard of living then we have now. Hi Virgil! This has already happened. Fresh out of high school a kid could buy a *new* US car back in the day, working a part time job at a store. Today the kid can't even afford a junker.

Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

2006-12-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 20:30, Helio W. wrote: That nut in Iran could be just a politician vomiting through the media what his local audience wants to hear. If he is serious (a possibility as fundamentalists are retards), I hope his own people will neutralize him. If not, I believe

Re: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 14 December 2006 08:09, Stephen the Cook wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: That's exactly right! A rising tide floats all ships. Screws may still need to be removed though. :) Hi Stephen! I think our hull is screwed to the bottom. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/

Re: [OT] HyPower Develops Hydrogen Technology to Power Vehicle from WATER!

2006-12-15 Thread Pete Theisen
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 21:06, Leland Jackson wrote: No, I would only have to wait for the wind to blow, but here in Texas that wait is never long. Hi Leland! So you would go whichever way it was blowing? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Dave Crozier
Sheer Bloody Luxury! In my day we had to pay the employer for the privilege of working and double time if we worked late! These youngsters don't know they're born! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: 15

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Dave Crozier
Tristan, Any more of this and we must go OT but I couldn't resist the following rambling by the late great Tony Capstick - to be spoken I a broad Lancashire accent whilst eating a slice of Hovis bread: I'll never forget that first day at t'pit. Me an' mi father worked a 72 hour shift, then wi

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Dave Crozier
And Finally, this from Monty Python... Aye. In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup o' tea. A cup ' COLD tea. Without milk or sugar. OR tea! In a filthy, cracked cup. We never used to have a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper. The best WE

[OT] Letter to Senator Kerry from a GI in Iraq

2006-12-15 Thread Michael Madigan
Friday, December 08, 2006 SENATOR JOHN KERRY 304 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510 DEAR SENATOR KERRY: WE ARE STILL LAUGHING OVER HERE IN IRAQ AT YOUR JOKE ABOUT THE TROOPS BEING DUMB. WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU ARE A LOT SMARTER THAN WE ARE BECAUSE YOU WERE ABLE

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Tristan Leask
lol! Bored this morning Dave? Please tell me you typed that all out and didn't ctrl^c ctrl^v it!? Tristan -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly

Re: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Peter Cushing
Dave Crozier wrote: And Finally, this from Monty Python... Snip Excellent Dave. Where did you get that? I've got quite a bit of Monty Python on DVD but not that one. Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

RE: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I've been doing more team lead and project manager the last 10 years or so and very little development. You can find resumes on the bierschwale solutions site. I too think that if I lived in the city, it would be easier to find work. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com

RE: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Kris, I sure hope you're right. I used to work 60 plus hour weeks and made really good money and thought it would never end. As a matter of fact, I've even negotiated a deal between your company EDS and a company I was doing business with to arrange for management buy in after a PLM (Product

RE: [NF] Quickbooks 2004 support discontinued

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I agree. I like the way they ship a new version every year for 29 - 79 bucks... Sure do wish I had a great program out on the market where a million people were willing to pay me 29 bucks every year... Oh and then kick in turbotax for a little icing on the cake.. Virgil Bierschwale

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I here you. I stumbled on that searching for foxpro on craigslist.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Allen
If you have the film set it is on the live at Hollywood bowl Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: 15 December 2006 10:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!! Dave

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
grin I liked that one... Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006

Re: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Peter Cushing
Allen wrote: If you have the film set it is on the live at Hollywood bowl Allen Hi Allen, Not got that one. Got the Monty Python movies which has life of Brian, Holy grail, meaning of life and now for something completely different. So will have a look for that one on its own. Peter

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Allen
Hold on, maybe that’s the one (now for something) though I think it was on Hollywood bowl. Now you mention it I have the quad set so it must be the same as yours. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Hi Allen, Not

[NF] Priceless

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen Russell
http://tinyurl.com/ymzczh Fourteen bloggers met with Microsoft executives yesterday, a meeting that included an hour with Chairman Bill Gates. Their reactions: priceless. Signature moment: Seeing the look on Gates' face when he walked into the room and every single one of us had a Mac open on

Re: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/sof/249049416.html There you go, Chet! Hey, it's Californiawouldn't you just be blessed to be living there? Isn't that pay enough? ;-) -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com

[NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen Russell
http://tinyurl.com/yzjwms Certainly, lots of people have no love for product activation and Genuine Advantage validation. Some comments on last week's Vista activation crack post express the sentiments: read link for comments Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159

RE: [NF] Idiots are everywhere

2006-12-15 Thread mrgmhale
Well, heck y'all, I just don't see any particular problem with the concept of joiner fields. It has never let me down with any of my commercial apps using VFP. If y'all iz havin problems using them, howz about just calling that dude and seein if he would sell you some consulting time! No, don't

Re: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Peter Cushing
Allen wrote: Hold on, maybe that’s the one (now for something) though I think it was on Hollywood bowl. Now you mention it I have the quad set so it must be the same as yours. Allen Sorry for going a bit OT here. The 5 disk set I've got is:

Re: [NF] Priceless

2006-12-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen Russell wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ymzczh Fourteen bloggers met with Microsoft executives yesterday, a meeting that included an hour with Chairman Bill Gates. Their reactions: priceless. Signature moment: Seeing the look on Gates' face when he walked into the room and every single

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Allen
Looks like they are the same http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Yorkshiremen_sketch Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sorry for going a bit OT here. The 5 disk set I've got is:

RE: MS Partner Program has VFP under Database Products!

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: I'm making the assumption that you're putting it on your card and billing me when I get back on my feet because I havent seen 400 in I don't know when... Hell, I havent seen 40 in a long time.. Even had to give up beer.. Been thinking about getting stephen to ship

RE: [NF] Quickbooks 2004 support discontinued

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
john harvey wrote: You will have to upgrade before 2007 to keep from losing data due to the way dates are handled in 2007. The dreaded 2Bond fiasco! Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided

RE: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Virgil, Yeah, and we'll all be flipping burgers by then... Not me, sorry. I like to keep several options open. Always have. I still think of opening up a coffee shop on wheels. For suckers who will pay starbucks four to five dollars for a cup of over roasted over

RE: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
Pete Theisen wrote: I agree up to a point. The catch is that growing the entire pie takes a lot longer - a career span for most of us - while hacking out a huge slice of the existing pie can be done in a few phone calls. -- Regards, So now that the snowbirds are coming back does your

RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Yeah, I've often wondered how many good things would come on the market if it hadnt been for the fact that some politicians biggest taxpayers would have lost revenue with the new invention... I mean after all. Think how much further along we would be if our

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: Certainly, lots of people have no love for product activation and Genuine Advantage validation. Some comments on last week's Vista activation crack post express the sentiments: read link for comments Customers have been abused

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 8:54 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote: Until Linux desktop apps are prime time or rather, the main stream media/press starts supporting/promoting the usage of said apps, the Linux OS won't take over the Windows OS. Catch-22, then. Can't use Linux until everyone is

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread mrgmhale
I would like to think Linux ousting Windows would happen in my lifetime. You see,, that pretty ensures I will live at least another 80 years or so. And if I am in relatively good health all is well. I like using Linspire Linux on my father's and father-in-law's PCs as they can't really get into

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 12/15/06, mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to think Linux ousting Windows would happen in my lifetime. You see,, that pretty ensures I will live at least another 80 years or so. And if I am in relatively good health all is well. Emigrate to Europe if you're longing for a

RE: Sure hope this ain't the future of programming...!!!

2006-12-15 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 09:45 AM 12/15/2006 +, Dave Crozier wrote: Sheer Bloody Luxury! In my day we had to pay the employer for the privilege of working and double time if we worked late! These youngsters don't know they're born! Yes, yes. But still pretty comfortable. In my day we had to pay the employer to

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: On Dec 15, 2006, at 7:46 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: Certainly, lots of people have no love for product activation and Genuine Advantage validation. Some comments on last week's Vista activation crack post express the sentiments: read link for

RE: MS Partner Program has VFP under Database Products!

2006-12-15 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Will be cranking up the brew station in 07. It's been idle = for the last half of 06. Either to hot or to involved in = other parts of life over the weekends. :) =  = Stephen Russell Steve, don't forget to sign-up for that spelling and grammar course BEFORE you start the brew station.

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread jeff
Now that was funny! I do see Europe moving to Linux before the US but mostly because they hate anything from US - Original Message - From: Jean Laeremans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:39:35 +0100 Subject: Re: [NF]

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Kevin Cully
One thing to remember is that M$ can't crush Linux. Linux is a thing that just exists. A free tool that people can choose to use. M$ could crush Novell, or RedHat, or some company that requires money to run and exist, but Linux just exists. Linux doesn't have a goal to be on every desktop or

Re: MS Partner Program has VFP under Database Products!

2006-12-15 Thread Peter Cushing
Hal Kaplan wrote: = Will be cranking up the brew station in 07. It's been idle = for the last half of 06. Either to hot or to involved in = other parts of life over the weekends. :) = = Stephen Russell Steve, don't forget to sign-up for that spelling and grammar course BEFORE you

Re: [OT] HyPower Develops Hydrogen Technology to Power Vehicle from WATER!

2006-12-15 Thread Leland Jackson
The direction in which the wind is blowing does not limit which way a sail boat can go, but rather the way the sails and rudder at set determine the direction of a sail boat. A sail boat can go where ever it wants, as long as there is a least some wind.

[NF] Putting AJAX Frameworks to the Test

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen Russell
http://www.devx.com/AJAXRoundup/Article/33126?trk=DXRSS_LATEST Get a developer's assessment of how well the most popular non-commercial AJAX frameworks performed during the development of a dynamic application. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 12/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that was funny! I do see Europe moving to Linux before the US but mostly because they hate anything from US Sigh, there we go againwe don't 'hate anything from US'. We do dislike - in general - US foreign policy. The move to

Re: [OT] HyPower Develops Hydrogen Technology to Power Vehicle from WATER!

2006-12-15 Thread Leland Jackson
Sorry about that Pete. I should have said: #-- Leland Jackson wrote: The direction in which the wind is blowing does not limit the course a sailboat can travel; rather, it is the setting of the sails and rudder of a sailboat the determine direction. A sailboat can go wherever

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Tristan Leask
They wouldn't want to crush linux either because it is a place where devs can show off their ideas. Then MS can come along and pinch/use/implement them into their software for the wider use. Linux can be very valuable to MS. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Peter Cushing
Tristan Leask wrote: They wouldn't want to crush linux either because it is a place where devs can show off their ideas. Then MS can come along and pinch/use/implement them into their software for the wider use. I can't find the pinch/use/implement folder anywhere on my linux box ;-)

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote: About a month ago I had a good talk with a network admin who gave me a lot of reasons why porting over to Linux is so much harder then it sounds. Education of the admins is the largest hurdle for any company to overcome. Do you think

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 10:08 AM, Tristan Leask wrote: They wouldn't want to crush linux either because it is a place where devs can show off their ideas. Then MS can come along and pinch/use/implement them into their software for the wider use. Linux can be very valuable to MS. Nah,

[OT] another truth of Religion

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen Russell
http://darkgate.net/comic/images/broomhilda/1166164338.jpg Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Dec 15, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote: About a month ago I had a good talk with a network admin who gave me a lot of reasons why porting over to Linux is so much harder then it sounds. Education of the admins is the largest hurdle for any company to overcome.

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote: I agree; inertia is the main reason people stick with Microsoft. The ones who do make the effort are the ones who have either been burned by security flaws or who have spent too much time dealing with Microsoft's legal department.

[NF] New way to approach Network admins

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen Russell
http://darkgate.net/comic/images/pcweenies/1166188691.jpg Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ --

Re: [NF] New way to approach Network admins

2006-12-15 Thread Kevin Cully
Hey! A programmer wouldn't know how to build a robot! That's an engineer's job! Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net Stephen Russell wrote: http://darkgate.net/comic/images/pcweenies/1166188691.jpg

Re: [NF] New way to approach Network admins

2006-12-15 Thread vbiersch
thats0wrong I'm just as comfortable with thermocouples as I am with foxpro and I've actually monitored them with code written in foxbase -Original Message- From: Kevin Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [NF] New way to approach Network admins Date: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:24 am Size: 716

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: Flaws exist. Yawn. I referred to those who have been burned by those flaws. Do you wanna cite some examples of companies being burned by Linux security flaws? The list of Microsoft flaws that have cost billions of dollars to companies is well known and documented

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: As hackers look to Linux for targets will they be as easy to find? Heck no. Neither in the Win camp. Because we have all learned from past mistakes. Ah, yes. Only 3 zero-day Word exploits! Happy days are here again! -- Ed

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
We all agree the M$'s good intentions of software working together got the worst of worst started with a bang. It seems like those days are behind us. It prayed on the stupidity of people getting passwords for porn sights back in 98 or 99? Since then people have wised up as so have

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread David Crooks
On Friday, December 15, 2006 12:33 PM Whil Hentzen wrote: snipped they arrogantly tell me that I'm wrong, that their machine isn't infected because their husband/nephew/brother-in-law/cable repairman told them so, and furthermore that if this was really a problem, they would have heard about it

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen the Cook wrote: snipped It prayed on the stupidity of people getting passwords for porn sights back in 98 or 99? Since then people have wised up as so have vendors. Rightnow you don't save your porn site passwords and instead just use the free sights, eh Steve? gdr --

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Is this why I get email with .DOC file attachments from housewives or dentists that won't pass my virus scanner? And when I tell them that their machine is infected, that they shouldn't be sending out infected documents, and maybe they should be looking at

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe wrote: On Dec 15, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: As hackers look to Linux for targets will they be as easy to find? Heck no. Neither in the Win camp. Because we have all learned from past mistakes. Ah, yes. Only 3 zero-day Word exploits! Happy days are here

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Stephen the Cook
David Crooks wrote: On Friday, December 15, 2006 12:33 PM Whil Hentzen wrote: snipped they arrogantly tell me that I'm wrong, that their machine isn't infected because their husband/nephew/brother-in-law/cable repairman told them so, and furthermore that if this was really a problem,

RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

2006-12-15 Thread Michael Madigan
Take the top people in any field and they make ridiculous bucks. --- Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Yeah, I've often wondered how many good things would come on the market if it hadnt been for the fact that some politicians biggest taxpayers would

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: For software with a year of 2000 in it's title and it's just been found? I agree that it's a bad hole but it's taken a long time to be found. 2000 was the *first* version subject to the flaws. They have persisted in all new

[NF]Cluebie for Newbie? Rack vs Tower servers?

2006-12-15 Thread Vince Teachout
Would someone give me a brief tutorial on the advantages/disadvantes, pros/cons of using a Rack server vs a Tower server? When it comes to hardware, I am, in the words of the immortal Akroyd, Jane, you ignorant slut. ___ Post Messages to:

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I've tried SCO Xenix, aix, and linux and I just don't see it happening.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Bitwise operations and varbinary fields

2006-12-15 Thread Ted Roche
On 12/15/06, Lew Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My current app records numerous logical values and, since I've just run out of available bit locations in my integer field, How many bits are you storing? You can store 31 or 32 bit (depending on whether you can control sign) in a 4 byte

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Like I said.. Most people can't program their vcr's... They surely can't work windows And linux is way past their interest level Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message-

Re: [NF]Cluebie for Newbie? Rack vs Tower servers?

2006-12-15 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Vince Teachout wrote: Would someone give me a brief tutorial on the advantages/disadvantes, pros/cons of using a Rack server vs a Tower server? When it comes to hardware, I am, in the words of the immortal Akroyd, Jane, you ignorant slut. As we all are. Or should be. Because, as McCoy

Re: [NF]Cluebie for Newbie? Rack vs Tower servers?

2006-12-15 Thread Ted Roche
On 12/15/06, Vince Teachout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would someone give me a brief tutorial on the advantages/disadvantes, pros/cons of using a Rack server vs a Tower server? Rack: smaller, denser, more expensive: use in a data center when you are paying for the amount of real estate your

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Like I said.. Most people can't program their vcr's... They surely can't work windows And linux is way past their interest level I'd agree with that...most people are afraid of technology, or at least anything beyond simpleton level. -- Michael J. Babcock,

Re: [NF]Cluebie for Newbie? Rack vs Tower servers?

2006-12-15 Thread john.harvey
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:05:42 -0600 Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince Teachout wrote: Would someone give me a brief tutorial on the advantages/disadvantes, pros/cons of using a Rack server vs a Tower server? When it comes to hardware, I am, in the words of the immortal

RE: [NF] Quickbooks 2004 support discontinued

2006-12-15 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
John, Marketing Kristyne, think marketing Usually, when the bank can no longer support updates to my ancient version of QuickBooks or Quicken they send me a new copy and then I install it. I went for several years without actually *paying* for an upgrade because the bank kept sending them

RE: [NF]Cluebie for Newbie? Rack vs Tower servers?

2006-12-15 Thread Hal Kaplan
=  = You forgot to say we need more beer! =  = John =  Shouldn't that be mass quantities of beer? One major difference is that rack-mounts require racks. Racks are not cheap but they tend to look neater than a bunch of towers sitting around. Personally, I prefer towers or pizza boxes

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 3:37 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: I'd agree with that...most people are afraid of technology, or at least anything beyond simpleton level. Is that why they like Windows? ;-P -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com

RE: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Virgil, Again, I hope that I'm wrong, but this is what the last 4 years experience has taught me and that's why I now believe that my lack of a degree has come back to haunt me. Not having a degree is definitely a problem when it comes to management jobs unless people know your work.

RE: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Virgil, That's why I'm willing to work for 500 per week and I have a wealth of knowledge/experience which kind of suprises me that nobody is willing to take advantage of it...!! If you can live on $500 per week then you really ought to go back to school. Student loans will cover the fees

RE: [OT] HyPower Develops Hydrogen Technology to Power Vehicle fromWATER!

2006-12-15 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Hal, Since nature abhors a vacuum, any time part of the atmosphere starts to suck, some other part of the atmosphere goes to relieve the suction. I think that's how Madigan came into being, actually. Kristyne McDaniel www.mcstyles.com www.shamrocktrails.com

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Kevin Cully
My wife and kids have taken to it with almost no training at all. My kids prefer it even. Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net MB Software Solutions wrote: I'd agree with that...most people are afraid of technology, or at least anything

RE: [OT] HyPower Develops Hydrogen Technology to Power Vehicle fromWATER!

2006-12-15 Thread Michael Madigan
That's right. There was an intelligence vacuum, and and God sent me to Earth to fill the void. I guess you filled the angry dog-breeder void. LOL --- Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hal, Since nature abhors a vacuum, any time part of the atmosphere starts to suck, some

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Kevin Cully
I remain dutifully ambiguous on the the subject of Santa. I do profess my unabashed belief that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is real, and that global warming is correlated to decline in the number of pirates in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL7FcvEydqgeurl Kevin Cully CULLY

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Rick Schummer
Don't tell them that!! Let them keep their warm and fuzzy myth that Windows is easy and Linux is hard. I mean, you don't go around telling little kids about Santa, now do you? What about Santa? Are you telling me he moved his entire operation to Linux and Dabo? To many myths being

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread john harvey
Santa has been dead since the Marx Bros found out there wasn't an sanity clause in their contract! John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schummer Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:51 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF]

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ed Leafe
On Dec 15, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Rick Schummer wrote: What about Santa? Are you telling me he moved his entire operation to Linux and Dabo? To many myths being floated, so enquiring minds want to know. Santa is one of those non-techie types, so he's a Windows user. But the elves

RE: [OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I incurred 2,000 dollars worth of college level work when I went back to work in arizona majoring in business administration with the idea of pursuing a mba from capella university. I had a really great job out there, but I reverse engineered a software package that the existing people said would

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Kids will pick it up fast and that’s why the next generation will do good with automation of all types. We have to remember that computers have really only started going mainstream since the mid to late 70's A lot of people in the work force are still scared of them, but the next generation will

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Kevin Ragsdale
Stephen Russell wrote: We all agree the M$'s good intentions of software working together got the worst of worst started with a bang. Agreed. It seems like those days are behind us. Better think again on that one, dude. Spyware, adware, malware, spambots, and anything else I didn't list

[OT] Mechanical heart breakthrough

2006-12-15 Thread Michael Madigan
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Re: [OT] HyPower Develops Hydrogen Technology to Power Vehicle fromWATER!

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Hal, Since nature abhors a vacuum, any time part of the atmosphere starts to suck, some other part of the atmosphere goes to relieve the suction. I think that's how Madigan came into being, actually. Do you mean to say he's a sucker? Kristyne McDaniel

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kevin Cully wrote: My wife and kids have taken to it with almost no training at all. My kids prefer it even. What...Linux? My daughter and wife didn't want anything to do with Open Office's Text Document program even though they only do simple word processing. They've exactly the kind

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Stephen the Cook wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: Flaws exist. Yawn. I referred to those who have been burned by those flaws. Do you wanna cite some examples of companies being burned by Linux security flaws? The list of Microsoft flaws that have cost billions of dollars to companies is well

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
MB Software Solutions wrote: Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Like I said.. Most people can't program their vcr's... They surely can't work windows And linux is way past their interest level I'd agree with that...most people are afraid of technology, or at least anything beyond simpleton

RE: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I'll agree with that. I've been saying for about 10 years that software will reach a point similar to hardware or building where everything is done on a blue print and signed off on before a single line of code is written. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com

Re: [NF] microsoft_antipiracy_will_drive_people_to_linux

2006-12-15 Thread Chet Gardiner
I love your posts, Stephen... You always operate from the assumption that every business that uses computers is built around the big corporate model. I always think in terms of the vast majority of clients I've had over the years -- small networks or single user machines easily administered.

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