Re: [PEDA] CE marking (was Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?)

2001-08-13 Thread Andy Gulliver
I could be wrong about a PSU complying with the Low Voltage Directive (LVD), as my experience only covers EN60950 which deals with IT equipment (which may include a PSU) rather than PSUs on their own. From an EMC point of view, a PSU has no intrinsic function and as you say shouldn't be marked

[PEDA] DRC warns: Primitives found on Internal Planes

2001-08-13 Thread Hermann . Hochgraeber
Hello all, I dont know what I have done to get this warning, but it keeps me bothering. I never had the intention to place any prims on the internal plane. Does anyone know how this can happen, or better how to find this prim. to delete it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Help text size (was Registry Entries for Protel)

2001-08-13 Thread HxEngr

Re: [PEDA] Help text size (was Registry Entries for Protel)

2001-08-13 Thread HxEngr

[PEDA] Unplated SMD-pads??

2001-08-13 Thread Tommy Åkesson
Sometime then I do DRC I get an error message. Broken-nets contraint Net GND Warning nets constain unpladet pads. How do I find this unplated pads!!! Wy must SMD-pads bee plated!!! Any comments or suggestions?? Regards Tommy * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To

Re: [PEDA] Unplated SMD-pads??

2001-08-13 Thread Bob Fearon
Tommy Do you have any of your SMD pads set as multilayer? I have only seen this message when I made that mistake. Bob Tommy kesson wrote: Sometime then I do DRC I get an error message. Broken-nets contraint Net GND Warning nets constain unpladet pads. How do I find this unplated

[PEDA] Alegro Conversion

2001-08-13 Thread Jim McGrath
Hi All, I have a request from a customer to take in their Alegro PCB files and modify/finish work that has been started in house. I am aware of Router Solutions but have been told it converts to 2.8. Does anybody have practical experience as to the completeness of the conversion and

Re: [PEDA] DRC warns: Primitives found on Internal Planes

2001-08-13 Thread Hermann . Hochgraeber
Thank you Ian for your detailed hints. I could solve the problem. see below: -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:59 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] DRC warns: Primitives found on Internal Planes On 12:25 PM

[PEDA] SV: Unplated SMD-pads??

2001-08-13 Thread Tommy Åkesson
Okej, perhaps... But how do I find them? Tommy -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Bob Fearon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 13 augusti 2001 15:55 Till: Protel EDA Forum Ämne: Re: [PEDA] Unplated SMD-pads?? Tommy Do you have any of your SMD pads set as multilayer? I

Re: [PEDA] multipage schematic question

2001-08-13 Thread Stephen Smith
-Original Message- From: Robison Michael R CNIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 August 2001 15:53 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEDA] multipage schematic question but what makes me nervous is that in the last multi-sheet schematic, in the explorer window the sub-sheets appear

Re: [PEDA] SV: Unplated SMD-pads??

2001-08-13 Thread Bob Fearon
They should show up on the screen as a different color ( multilayer color) instead of top layer or bottom layer. Tommy kesson wrote: Okej, perhaps... But how do I find them? Tommy -Ursprungligt meddelande- Fr n: Bob Fearon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 13 augusti 2001

Re: [PEDA] multipage schematic question

2001-08-13 Thread HxEngr

[PEDA] SV: SV: Unplated SMD-pads??

2001-08-13 Thread Tommy Åkesson
No cant find any. But if its a multilayer but not plated?. How can i find this?? Okej I know the hard way, click on every pad and check propertys. This will take hours. Tommy -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Bob Fearon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 13 augusti 2001 18:02

Re: [PEDA] multipage schematic question

2001-08-13 Thread rlamoreaux
I always use Create Symbol from Sheet to create the sheet symbols. This way it gets the right sheet name and ports and everything. Of course I have also done the old close and forget to save thing too. Rob * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post

Re: [PEDA] Naughty bits (from Benny Hill)

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Elson
Evan Scarborough wrote: I get these naughty bits too using the same process and I see them in many Protel generated gerber files from other designers. It seems to me that the auto-router leaves extra line segments after cleanup (and it seems to be worse if the routing grid and the

Re: [PEDA] Naughty bits (from Benny Hill)

2001-08-13 Thread Ted Tontis
They do not go away. I brought this up to Protel when they released SPK6, that's when I noticed it. I would auto route a board and when finished hit unroute and it would leave floaters in different spots across the board. At first I thought it was just a fluke but I tried it again same thing, I

[PEDA] ddb transfer failure ??

2001-08-13 Thread Robison Michael R CNIN
hi everybody, well, i'm not having a banner day here. somebody else here needs to look at a pcb of mine in protel. since i'm using ddb's (it was either ddb's or not be able to read the footprints libraries) of course, there is no actual powsup.pcb. so i emailed him a 20MB ddb. we're still

Re: [PEDA] ddb transfer failure ??

2001-08-13 Thread Ted Tontis
have you tried to repair the data base? Ted -Original Message- From: Robison Michael R CNIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:54 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: [PEDA] ddb transfer failure ?? hi everybody, well, i'm not having a banner day here. somebody

Re: [PEDA] DRC warns: Primitives found on Internal Planes

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Elson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I dont know what I have done to get this warning, but it keeps me bothering. I never had the intention to place any prims on the internal plane. Does anyone know how this can happen, or better how to find this prim. to delete it. Make sure the

Re: [PEDA] SV: SV: Unplated SMD-pads??

2001-08-13 Thread Wamnet
I've seen this happen with both Multilayer and top only SMD...just happened to me yesterday... Best way to find it is to look at the report (menu - Reports - Board Information - then generate the report by setting to all). You'll see a heading for non-plated hole sizes like so: Non-Plated

[PEDA] Protel 99 cannot auto-route BGA components

2001-08-13 Thread websitevisitor
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Re: [PEDA] ddb transfer failure ??

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Elson
Robison Michael R CNIN wrote: it isn't broke on my system... ivan just can't open it on his machine. like i said, since i can't send him an actual powsup.pcb, i sent him the whole darned ddb. maybe thats not the way to move a job from one pc to another, but thats the method i tried,

Re: [PEDA] ddb transfer failure ??

2001-08-13 Thread Robison Michael R CNIN
thanks brad, i sent it over the intranet and i believe they've got that running at 100MB, so no, i didn't zip the file. and i guess i should also have stated that this is exactly the same version of protel that i am using... in fact its coming off the same cd that i used. (don't be thinking

Re: [PEDA] ddb transfer failure ??

2001-08-13 Thread Clive . Broome
The problem could be the email system not transferring the *.ddb file correctly, specially if it goes through different servers in the system. The file type is probably unknown. Try zipping the ddb, if that doesnt work, zip and FTP it.

Re: [PEDA] ddb transfer failure ??

2001-08-13 Thread Robison Michael R CNIN
libraries was what i was thinking too, and it still could be that. to be honest, i'm a configuration pig. i've got several jobs in this ddb, and i'm almost positive that some of the jobs call libraries from another ddb. but the job i wanted him to see used no libraries. i just brute-force

Re: [PEDA] ddb transfer failure ??

2001-08-13 Thread Brad Velander
Mike, as more of the story comes out here I have a new suggestion. Since Ivan is a mechanical guy, why not just export the PCB to ACAD DWG or DXF format, export it and email it to him. He can open it in ACAD and make much faster and more precise measurements. This is what I do to transfer

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99 cannot auto-route BGA components

2001-08-13 Thread Gordon Price
Hi, I use 256 pin DSP BGA's and have been there and got the hat and shirt!! Call me and I will be happy to explain the different ways to solve your problems. R. Gordon Price Director of Research Engineering Loronix Indormation Systems, Inc. Del Mar CA (858) 523-9424 -Original

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99 cannot auto-route BGA components

2001-08-13 Thread Ted Tontis
What is the ball pitch? There are ways to play with both track, via, and ball size to route the board with lots of room left to run tracks from out side the BGA. Is the ball grid causing you to go to the 10 layer count? what size vias are you using, what size tracks? If the ball grid has a lage