Re: [PEDA] Limitations on InternalPlane layers

2002-03-15 Thread Tony Karavidas
I'm looking forward to the PCB conference that's coming soon to see if the new router will work better. Protel is supposed to be showing something. Tony > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Jon Elson > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:31

Re: [PEDA] weird bug when clicking on tabs in workspace...

2002-03-15 Thread Ian Wilson
On 12:20 PM 15/03/2002 -0800, Dwight said: >Ian, it's already there - 2001/02/09, summary is "Client: If document tabs >exceed window width, they become unreliable" I think I have been doing too much lately - brain is becoming increasingly frazzled. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Limitations on InternalPlane layers

2002-03-15 Thread Jon Elson
"Cobbe,John" wrote: > Hi Kiernan > You will not be able to route on the internal plane layers. There is a way to do this. You can define a new split plane region for every net you will route on the plane. If there are just a few nets left to route, and they won't mind a lot of extra capacitanc

Re: [PEDA] Protel big gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Dwight
An option that would help in this regard (not in remembering to do it, though!) would be to have an "Open read only" command/facility. Access has this. In the Open dialog box, adjacent to the Open button is a drop-down that includes "Open read-only" and "Open exclusive". This would get around t

Re: [PEDA] weird bug when clicking on tabs in workspace...

2002-03-15 Thread Dwight
Ian, it's already there - 2001/02/09, summary is "Client: If document tabs exceed window width, they become unreliable" > -Original Message- > From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 1:57 AM > > On 08:55 AM 15/03/2002 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > >

[PEDA] Plug & switch

2002-03-15 Thread Sean James
I'm doing a power supply with a hard-wired plug & switch. What type of pads should I use so I can "wire" these parts on an internal layer, in order to satisfy the netlist? Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01603 TEL 508-754-4858 x33 FAX 413-541-6170

Re: [PEDA] Limitations on InternalPlane layers

2002-03-15 Thread Bob Jones
- Original Message - From: "Bob Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Limitations on InternalPlane layers > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMA

[PEDA] Antwort: Limitations on InternalPlane layers

2002-03-15 Thread ga
Kiernan, >I'm still on my first PCB under P99SE. I need to add quite a few extra routes, >but the PCB is really dense. Can I route these on the InternalPlane layers? As the following text shows that you are talking about plane layers, I would strongly discourage you to do so, though it technica

[PEDA] Antwort: P99SE SP6 tries to outsmart me

2002-03-15 Thread ga
Rene, >The update design has spurious errors. It may happen that changing >a string ( 10k to 100k) in the schematic, leads to a hole bunch >of actions during update design. Quite often remove a connection >and redo the same connection. This appears to be some propagated >errors. The probability

Re: [PEDA] Protel big gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Thanks to all the folks who suggested setting the "read-only" file attribute. I already knew I could do this, but I usually forget to do it until after I have opened the file, then it's too late! Just one more thing I have to keep track of, that I shouldn't have to keep track of... Best regards

Re: [PEDA] Limitations on InternalPlane layers

2002-03-15 Thread Brian Sherer
Hi, Kiernan; Using Mid Layers with Polygon Pours and routed tracks works fairly well. Obviously, breaks in the Internal Plane can wreak havoc with controlled- impedance traces, switching-supply circuitry and the like, so it's good to confine this approach to areas where Plane continuity isn't cri

Re: [PEDA] Moore's law WAS: spaces in footprint names

2002-03-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> > I've got more "effective" MIPS, > >MOPS, TFLOPS, etc. and a better pattern recognizer than a computer. > > Don't count on that lasting forever. Moore's law, after all. Sure, switch > density will reach a limit, but then there are three dimensions, and the > problem with AI now is not really

Re: [PEDA] Limitations on InternalPlane layers

2002-03-15 Thread Cobbe,John
Hi Kiernan You will not be able to route on the internal plane layers. Any primitives added will simply be voids in the copper Generally used only if you want to avoid parasitic capacitance on adjacent layer tracks. I would use standard route layers and pour ground fill when done. The polygon reli

[PEDA] Limitations on InternalPlane layers

2002-03-15 Thread kiernan_fitzpatrick
I'm still on my first PCB under P99SE. I need to add quite a few extra routes, but the PCB is really dense. Can I route these on the InternalPlane layers? Should I have used Polygon pours on ordinary layers instead? If I am allowed to use the plane layers, then how can I tell whether I'm going

[PEDA] P99SE SP6 tries to outsmart me

2002-03-15 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
It took a while until I realized that JP1_? doesn't make unique identifiers when annotating. Strange, I got JP1_1 .. JP1_4 twice. While the schematic lists them twice in the component list, the pcbeditor does not. The pcbeditor got the habit of interrupting 'place track'. Meaning 'pt' & leftmou

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-15 Thread Bryn Wolfe
> > > >Just guessing, I think the most accomodating thing to do for footprints >would be: >1) Allow underscores >2) Allow lowercase and uppercase >3) Be case insensitive (uppercase and lowercase evaluate the same) >4) Don't allow spaces in the name > >This would allow those folks who want to u

Re: [PEDA] Interest in sharing libraries and footprints? (was Libraries for PIC processors)

2002-03-15 Thread Waldemar Kulajew
Matt for there seames to only silence to your question here my coments and thoughts < -- snip -- > > > I'm wondering, too... Are there any other repositories for shared > libraries or such for components and footprints? More importantly, if not, > are folks out there interested

Re: [PEDA] Antwort: weird bug when clicking on tabs in workspace...

2002-03-15 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:55 AM 15/03/2002 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >I don't know of any fix, but this also is a known, old bug. Is it on the >bug list already, Ian and Abdul? > >Regards, > >Gisbert No not yet... If someone wants to fill make a really nice cut-and-pastable summary I will add it. To really