Re: [PEDA] Soldering Techniques

2002-05-30 Thread Danny Bishop
HI Adeel Wave soldering is only choice for soldering through hole parts in bulk. You can potentially save money by putting SMD parts on the opposite side to the thru hole parts and solder them all in one go. Wave soldering is not as reliable as reflow however, and requires adherence to fairly res

Re: [PEDA] SMD Markings

2002-05-30 Thread Darren
Linden, It maybe a 2SC1623 or 2SC2812 NPN device. This info is from the book: Up-To-Data Worlds Transistors & IC'c It has listings with the device markings. Darren Moore > -Original Message- > From: Linden Doyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 31 May 2002 15:07 > To: PEDA

[PEDA] SMD Markings

2002-05-30 Thread Linden Doyle

[PEDA] Soldering Techniques

2002-05-30 Thread Adeel Malik
Most Board-Population vendors use two techniques for soldering namely Wave Soldering and Reflow Soldering. Can someone tell me about the pros and cons of each type (which type is better for High-density and High Performance boards) ?. Regards ADEEL MALIK, * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Systematically find unwanted antennas

2002-05-30 Thread Drew
Hello, There is at least one layout package I know of that will report "dangling lines" and their x:y coordinates. Also, I have been told that running the database through Specctra will remove dangling lines. Though I have never witnessed the process, it might be worth looking into. Cheers

Re: [PEDA] Assembly drawing reference designators

2002-05-30 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Could someone comment on what is the advantage of using .Designator string as opposed to default component Designator? You can move default Designators to any track or mechanical layer, position them automatically and resize to fit into or next to a component. Doing that with the .Designator strin

Re: [PEDA] Good default settings

2002-05-30 Thread Thomas
It's been a while since I've installed Protel, but from memory: Schematic editor Preferences/Graphical Editing/Convert Special Strings is not checked by default. So you will see things like '.DATE'instaed of the current date. 'Add template to clipboard' (in Schematic editor Preferences/Graphical

Re: [PEDA] Unlocking Spreadsheets

2002-05-30 Thread Clive . Broome
This was just cutting and pasting a section of column to try and remove those pesky underscore characters pcb adds when building arrays. It caused an exception error when I tried pasting back the updated designators into Protels spreadsheet. It suggested it was good practice to reboot after this

Re: [PEDA] Good default settings

2002-05-30 Thread Darren
Ivor, Sure there is one very important thing to do.. Make sure you never loose where this list is :) Darren > -Original Message- > From: Ivor Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2002 02:09 > To: Protel Forum Ask (E-mail) > Subject: [PEDA] Good default settings >

Re: [PEDA] Help re bd material

2002-05-30 Thread Dennis Saputelli
thank brad and mike i know some reps well but the customer will be shopping it offshore an inquiry like this to the reps will make my phone ring too much (BTDT) info on FR1 was v interesting Dennis Saputelli Mike Reagan wrote: > > Dennis, > > Check with some of your manufacture's reps in yo

Re: [PEDA] Systematically find unwanted antennas

2002-05-30 Thread Ian Capps
I've only seen that capability in some of the gerber softwares. The old Lavenir View2001 does an unterminated trace check but Camtastic doesn't seem to have the ability. Ian Capps - Original Message - From: "John W. Childers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [PEDA] Unlocking Spreadsheets

2002-05-30 Thread Wamnet

Re: [PEDA] Unlocking Spreadsheets

2002-05-30 Thread Ian Wilson
On 10:14 AM 30/05/2002 -0400, Abd ulRahman Lomax said: >At 01:14 PM 5/29/2002 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>I just discovered another 'bug' fix for the spreadsheet editor. It always >>seems >>to default to locked and therefore any update you try to paste back from >>Excel >>(a usable spr

[PEDA] genius netscroll mouse

2002-05-30 Thread Christopher Rhomberg

Re: [PEDA] Systematically find unwanted antennas

2002-05-30 Thread Bob Jones
I'm not sure about Camtastic but my CAM350 software will check for unwanted antennas. Sorry not much help here. - Original Message - From: "John W. Childers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: [PEDA] Systematically

Re: [PEDA] Help re bd material

2002-05-30 Thread Brad Velander
Dennis, as per UL, yes you are right, there are many consumer products which use phenol boards. Just for your reference, FR1 is a phenol board but with the addition of flame retardants. There are typically three manners to achieve UL for laminate materials. 1) Flammability rating

Re: [PEDA] Help re bd material

2002-05-30 Thread Dennis Saputelli
thanks for your comments, we hope to do a no via design i hadn't thought about the flammability, will look into that but lots of UL/CE products use phenolic bds Dennis Saputelli Brad Velander wrote: > > Dennis, > while you state this is a single etch layer design, I assume that > you h

Re: [PEDA] Systematically find unwanted antennas

2002-05-30 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 11:07 PM 5/28/2002 -0600, John W. Childers wrote: >On a revision of a board, unwanted antennas can remain and must be found >and removed. These are tracks that branch out from a net, but don't >terminate on a pad, and can generate noise as electromagnetic waves, much >like an antenna on a r

Re: [PEDA] Help re bd material

2002-05-30 Thread Brad Velander
Dennis, while you state this is a single etch layer design, I assume that you have vias. Am I right? Phenolic or CEM1 will not electroplate reliably or at least not without contaminating the plating bath with phenols. If you are doing the silver via epoxy process then forget the above comm

Re: [PEDA] Assembly drawing reference designators

2002-05-30 Thread John W. Childers
Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply; I will use this. John - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Assembly drawing reference designators > In a message dated 5/30/2002 8:16:26 AM Easte

Re: [PEDA] Help re bd material

2002-05-30 Thread Dennis Saputelli
can anyone advise me on the following please? i am about to do a design for a 150,000 pc run for cost reasons (low end commercial product) the bd material must be made out of night soil (actually phenolic) the design is SMD and to be a single sided bd (one etch layer)! the lead pitch is 0.5mm o

Re: [PEDA] Gerber to Protel, was Boardmaker to Protel

2002-05-30 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 02:25 PM 5/24/2002 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: >Abd ul-Rahman, > no you are not describing the process that I was trying to recall. >Trust me, your description in no way resembles the process, nor is your >process limited to Ver. 2.8 is it? No, it is not so limited. "The process," as M

[PEDA] Good default settings

2002-05-30 Thread Ivor Davies
Hi Everyone! Our Financial Director finally sent off our order for Protel today and I can't wait to get into it. I know most of you guys have been using it for years but think back to when you first started using it... As with all software, I might expect some of the default settings for Prote

Re: [PEDA] Systematically find unwanted antennas

2002-05-30 Thread Mike Reagan
John In the current version there is no way of finding stubs. Perhaps this feature is avail in the DXP version Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD - Original Message - From: "John W. Childers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:07

[PEDA] Pointing to a document being inside another database

2002-05-30 Thread Wojciech Oborski
I have several questions connected with 2 issues of pointing to a document which is within Protel's database. (Protel99SE + SP6, WinNT4) Issue 1: Adding (to a list of current libraries) specific library file which is within library database containing several libraries. Whe

Re: [PEDA] Assembly drawing reference designators

2002-05-30 Thread Dave Eloranta
I use the ".Designator" string on all PCB library parts. I draw a part outline on mechanical layer1 and the designator string. For bottom side components I change these to mechanical layer3 by unlocking primitives and doing a global change layer and mirror string on the ".designator" string. I fin

Re: [PEDA] Unlocking Spreadsheets

2002-05-30 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 01:14 PM 5/29/2002 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I just discovered another 'bug' fix for the spreadsheet editor. It always >seems >to default to locked and therefore any update you try to paste back from Excel >(a usable spreadsheet package) causes a crash and suggests a reboot. That the

Re: [PEDA] Assembly drawing reference designators

2002-05-30 Thread HxEngr

[PEDA] Systematically find unwanted antennas

2002-05-30 Thread John W. Childers

[PEDA] Assembly drawing reference designators

2002-05-30 Thread John W. Childers

[PEDA] Unlocking Spreadsheets

2002-05-30 Thread Clive . Broome
I just discovered another 'bug' fix for the spreadsheet editor. It always seems to default to locked and therefore any update you try to paste back from Excel (a usable spreadsheet package) causes a crash and suggests a reboot. The problem can be overcome by going to : Options ->Preferences and