Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-08 Thread Stephen Casey
I think maybe JaMi is on holiday ;o) Steve. -Original Message- From: Linden Doyle [mailto:ldoyle;zener.net] Sent: 07 November 2002 21:52 To: PEDA Subject: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message:

Re: [PEDA] Pick Place Data

2002-11-08 Thread John A. Ross \[Design\]
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: [PEDA] Pick Place Data I just got a call from a client who is having issues with an assembly house over the pick place file generated by Protel.

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-08 Thread John A. Ross \[Design\]
- Original Message - From: Joe Sapienza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down? Seems very slow lately I think everyone is switching over to DXP The traffic on DXP lists is pretty

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-08 Thread Jeff Adolphs
Tony, Columbus/Westerville as a tech spot is nothing compared to Dayton/Cincinnati and Cleveland. Westerville is a great city though and Ohio has a lot to offer. I have no rush hour traffic (15-20 minute drive), office with a window, city park across the street, new Westerville Community

[PEDA] Gerber woes

2002-11-08 Thread Kulajew Waldemar
Hello all. Is there any GerberGURU out there? I got a call from my board house just some minutes ago. They tells me the extended gerber file I send them is buggy. There seam to be an octagonal pad showing up rotated with 22,5 degrees. That, naturally, causes shorts to the surrounding

Re: [PEDA] Gerber woes

2002-11-08 Thread Dave Eloranta
Warning Unable to process data: multipart/mixed;boundary==_NextPart_000_0003_01C28709.AAB8FA20

Re: [PEDA] Gerber woes

2002-11-08 Thread Brad Velander
Kulajew, I never use polygon pads and therefore I am not an expert but I can tell you that there are reported problems with polygon pad rotations (P99SE I assume). Abd-ul Rahman is the expert on this topic as I recall. Solution, do not use rotated polygon pads, possibly don't use polygon

Re: [PEDA] Gerber woes

2002-11-08 Thread John Williams
This is a well known Protel bug. Octagonal pads are off by 22.5 degrees of rotation in Gerber files. The choices are: 1) Don't use octagonal pads 2) Have your board house fix your Gerber files by rotating all octagonal pads 22.5 degrees. 3) Do the fix yourself using a Gerber editor. John

Re: [PEDA] Gerber woes

2002-11-08 Thread kiernan_fitzpatrick
I got caught out on this myself, so I downloaded a gerber spec from the web somewhere. Specifically, the line means: %ADAperture description D34Name of the aperture P, It's a regular polygon 0.063X Size of the polygon 8X It's has 8 sides 0 NOT rotated

Re: [PEDA] Gerber woes

2002-11-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:51 PM 11/8/2002 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The printout I have suggests that for no rotation, do not use the rotation parameter. IMHO it sounds like the manufacturer's interpretation of the gerber data is not correct. Based on my recollection: That is the same error that Protel

Re: [PEDA] Abd ul Rahman, what is with the archive?

2002-11-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:56 PM 11/7/2002 -0800, Brad Velander wrote: Abd ul-Rahman, since you mention the Yahoo archive, what is with it recently? Last week I went to check for a message that I had deleted and the archive was only current to Oct 18th. Is it maintained manually by someone or is it automatic?

[PEDA] Missing Tabs

2002-11-08 Thread Martin Richards

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-08 Thread JaMi Smith
No, I am still lurking . . . - Original Message - From: Stephen Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down? I think maybe JaMi is on holiday ;o) Steve. -Original

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Actually, I think it is indicitave of the fact that most people have just had their fill of Protel. Those who have bought into DXP appear to just be lost in space just trying to learn it and trying to get it to work, and don't want to get Altium ticked off at them by talking about it to the point

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:49 PM 11/8/2002, JaMi Smith wrote: Actually, I think it is indicitave of the fact that most people have just had their fill of Protel. What one thinks may say more about oneself than about others. Traffic has been high recently, in fact. When it is low, perhaps people are busy, I know I

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-08 Thread JaMi Smith
Some people just need to get their 2 cents in and need humoring at any cost. - Original Message - From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Is forum

Re: [PEDA] Is forum traffic down?

2002-11-08 Thread Mike Reagan
Jami wrote: Still others are busy working on a set of translation programs that will enable people with large numbers of legacy designs in Protel 99 SE and DXP to tranfer those files into a Pads Database or a Mentor Database so that they can upgrade to some real software. And yet still,