Re: [PEDA] Angled components in schematic
Hello, Create them in a 45o position in the library so you can put them simply at 0, 90, 180 or 270 degree orientation on the schematic. The pin endpoints should be on the grid. How do I put parts at 45o ? I am basically designing a moving message board, and want to place my LEDS at 45o to make it more readable for the matrix == Aalt Lokhorst Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen P.O. Box 5225 9700 GE Groningen The Netherlands Tel: +31-50-5877877 Fax: +31-50-5877899 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Using Excel for manipulating Protel data.
Hello forum Mr Lomax wrote: When I start, I insert a field, put 1 into the first record (say that is cell A1), put =A1+1 into the next record and fill down. Then I select that field entirely (all records) and Copy. Then I Paste Special/Values. I've now numbered all the records. (Again, there is likely a faster way) Yes there is, Put 1 in cell A1, put 2 in cell A2, select both cells and then use the small square in the right bottom corner to drag it as far as you wish. See the Excel help 'Fill in a series of numbers, dates, or other items' for more options. I don't know about a simpe 'Select cells and collapse into one cell' option. Anybody else? == Aalt Lokhorst Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen P.O. Box 5225 9700 GE Groningen The Netherlands Tel: +31-50-5877877 Fax: +31-50-5877899 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Print Preview problem
Hello All, Yesterday we had some printing problems. The problem is solved now, we had to reinstall the PCBprint server. We don't know why the server was 'lost'. Have a nice weekend, == Aalt Lokhorst Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen P.O. Box 5225 9700 GE Groningen The Netherlands Tel: +31-50-5877877 Fax: +31-50-5877899 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Print Preview problem
Hello Forum, did someone of you ever encounter problems with the Print/Preview Function? I'm working with Protel 99 SE (SP6) for years now and everything worked fine. But since today the Print/Preview function doesn't work anymore. If I click the print icon or select File/Print nothing happens at all. A funny guy at the Protel Helpdesk told me that the problem was caused by the printer driver I use. (HP deskjet 1100C). A strange remark kind of help because everything worked fine until today and printing schematic files still works fine. == Aalt Lokhorst Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen P.O. Box 5225 9700 GE Groningen The Netherlands Tel: +31-50-5877877 Fax: +31-50-5877899 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Port length will not change
Charlie long port Jenkins wrote: I seem to have lost the ability to manually change the length of a schematic port symbol. In the 'Preferences' settings is a checkbox 'OrCAD (TM) Ports. I think that is what you are looking for. Succes Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * Tracking #: 40FDD42D64786045A44FB57326293A9B62678E68 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] 3d-tool supplier
Hello Waldemar, On the site of Pro/DESKTOP there is a FAQ list and it contains the next question/answer: ... How long can Pro/DESKTOP Express be used? During the software registration process Pro/DESKTOP Express users must provide their e-mail address. At six-month intervals, PTC will contact every registered Pro/DESKTOP Express user to inform them of the latest service packs available for download. At this time, Pro/DESKTOP Express users must register for a new activation key. ... Does this mean that all my work is lost in at most six month if they decide to stop their activity's? Even if the software is free, then I can't take that risk. Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * Tracking #: CC9F0B157677414292FE28BEC2E5529F6B7FB66C * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] update schematic ??
Hello Miker, schematics button, went back to my schematic, and one component's part did not update. however, several other identical components did update. why won't the one part of the one component update? In the knowledge base item 1934 is a description of the internal cache in Protel. One line in this description is: 'This behavior means that in Protel 99 two components on a sheet can have the same name, but have different graphic and/or text attributes' I am curious how Protel handles the following actions: - Place one instance from component 'XYZ' on the schematic. - Modify the component in the library without changing the name. - Place a second instance on the schematic. (At this moment Protel will have two different versions of 'XYZ' in the cache) - Modify the component in the library again and do 'Update schematic' (This modify is needed if you want to see the effect of the update) - The question is. Will Protel update the first, the second or both instances from the XYZ component in the internal cache? Maybe that is the reason that Protel gives the advice to do initially a 'Update Parts In Cache'. If you still have the schematic with the problem then you can see what happens if you save it in ascii. Maybe you can find two 'versions' of the component. I don't know what happens if you create a project library from a schematic with two different but 'same name' components. Is it possible for Protel to create one project library file which contains two different components with the same name? I would like a function which compares the components on the sheet with the library and then generates a report with differences. Hope i did not confuse you more... Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] FBGA fan outs with no net name
Hello Michael, Try placing a net label on the unused pin in the schematic. For instance FPGA_NC001, FPGA_NC002 etc. If I recall it correct this wil result in a netname for the unused pin. Test it before you fill the schematic with a lot of labels. At the moment I am not in the situation to check it for you. Good-Luck I am working with a design that has a large FBGA and each pad on this part has a via fanout from it. Not all the pads are assigned a net name on this FBGA. The pins that are not used have no net name and therefore the pad has no net name but I am still giving it a fan out with a small connection to it, incase I ever need to use it. The problem is the design rules flags all these. My question is there any way around this or a design rule I can set up that will not show these no net name fanouts/connections as a violation? Thanks for anyones comments, Michael Biggs Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Polygons keepouts (was Serious Bug: Polygons still c onnecting to pads...)
Hi All, At Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:27 AM, Mr Lomax wrote: It would be interesting to examine the ASCII database. I suspect that this error might not persist through ASCII export/import, but I haven't tried it. In April 2001 I had some similar problems with a NO_NET track that was 'remembering' the previous netname. In that situation the problem not even survived a 'Save' and 'File open'. (See also the message from April which is included below) I can not test it at the moment. If it is true then this will be a workaround to get it correct after a global change. The following text is a snip of the message which i did send to the forum at April 2001. I have seen a small problem, I will describe the steps to show the problem and hope someone understands what I mean. (because my knowledge of the english language has its limitations) I was designing a pcb with a polygon. There are some open areas on the pcb because I was using the 'remove dead copper' option. When i place a track in such a 'dead copper region' and give it the the same netname as the polygon, then Protel shows me a connection line because this track is not connected to anything. Very good behaviour of Protel, so continue to the next step. If I edit the properties of this track to 'No Net' then the connection line disappears. So far so good, everything still normal. But now it comes, force a 'rebuild' of the polygon and see what happens. In my situation the polygon wil fill the 'isolated area' with copper and connects to the track. It seems that the polygon still is 'thinking' that the trace has the same net. Save and close the pcb file Open the pcb file again. Rebuild the polygon again. Now the polygon handles the trace correctly as a 'No Net' trace. The reason that I discoverd this problem was because I wanted to block an area for the polygon. After placing the polygon I saw that the polygon was 'leaking' between some tracks and this resulted in a useless, uggly looking, piece of copper. I decided to place a 'layer specific keepout' track to close the leak. In first instance this track had the same net as the polygon because I was drawing it on top of the polygon. Then I changed the netname of the track to 'No Net', checked the 'Keepout' mark and did a rebuild of the polygon. The result was the described situation. Greetings, Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer
Hello All, Mark Richards wrote: Just a quick poll: How many of you have not yet received the tasking tools? I didn't receive it either. Last week I informed the 'Altium Sales Support Center ' in the Netherlands. They told me that they were working on it. They were promising me that I would receive it before the end of the week. That was last week... I think I will receive it in the near future. I can't imagine they will promise us the software wthout sending it. Maybe the postman was ill last week :-) Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Intelligent SCH and PCB components
Sounds like way to much confusion to me. I don't mean that you always have to use formulas. I wrote: 'What we need is the option of using formulas and expressions' What I mean is that we can do the job in the usual way, but for the exceptions and the specials it might be helpfull. We do have the option to use Client Basic in Protel, it is not necessary to use it, but you can do nice things with it. Take a look at the several usefull things which are written by Brian Guralnick. The same is true for Excel, it is possible to use it without programming and difficult formulas, but if you take some time to learn how to use the 'difficult' things it will pay-back. Do your production boards change that drastically from the proto? Our's certainly don't. No, I like proto's which are almost equal to the production type. But sometimes we use the same PCB for 2 production types. I don't want to remember which parts on the BOM are needed for type A and/or type B. If all the 'inteligence' is in the schematic and components, then I don't need to rely on my memory if the project needs a revision. The intention of the 'examples' was only to explain the idea. I will be back at 2 januari 2002, have a Merry Christmas, Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Schematic hetero capabilities?
Hello all, Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:58 PM Douglas McDonald wrote: I've seen a mechanism for achieving this recently on another tool. You can add run-time attributes to each gate such as GROUP=FPGA1 and then during annotation only parts with compatible attributes can/will be put together. This could also be very useful for defining components in isolated regions ie. REGION=ISOLATED 5V or some such. I'm not sure, but I think that the Protel database structure should be able to handle another field(s) - perhaps there's a DDB expert who could comment... I think it is already in Protel, look in the 'handbookp99se.pdf' at page 142. You can find the file at www.protel.com. The pagenumber might be different if Protel/Altium updated the file. Look for the subject 'Preparing the Design for PCB Layout, Grouping parts into the same physical component'. Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Bug query?
If i turn the top layer on (which i'm not using) I think your through hole components are placed on the toplayer. Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Which library is used in UpdatePCB
Gisbert Auge Wrote: But for normal working situations why not organise libraries in a way, that there are no different footprints with the same name in the PCB libraries? This avoids any unwanted effects of this kind from the very beginning. In theory very nice but the practical situation is sometimes different My sheet symbols have some 'default' footprints, this makes schematic drawing easy. If I place a 74HCT00 device I have two 'default' footprint fields 'DIP14' and 'SO14'. A lot of other stuff is also using the same footprint. Suppose that I change something in the PCB footprint then I have two options. -1- Save the changed footprint to another name and all the default footprint names in the schematic symbols are useless. -2- Change the component without changing the name, and live with the fact that there is a possibility to have two different components with the same name in the library cache. If the footprint is changed because there is a real problem with the old version, wrong dimensions or something, then I don't like option 1. It means that the wrong footprint is still available. Even if you delete it from the library then it might pop up from an old design and getting into the cache. There is an item in the knowledge base at www.protel.com Protel Knowledge Base Item ID: 1934 How does the component cache in Protel 99's schematic editor differ from previous versions? In Protel 99 all the component attributes' are compared as the components are being added to the cache, including the component name, graphic and text fields. If the components are not identical in every detail then both are included in the cache. This behavior means that in Protel 99 two components on a sheet can have the same name, but have different graphic and/or text attributes. It would be nice if Protel could give a warning if this situation occurs. It is not always a problem but I want to be aware of it when it happens. It would be even nicer if there is also an option to compare the internal cache and the library files. Suppose that I add some details to the silkscreen of a footprint to make it look nicer. Such a change is not critical for a design. I don't want to make changes in 'old' designs, but if I make a revision then I want to 'update' the 'old' footprint to the new 'nice-looking' one. If Protel could give a report option to compare the cache against the library, after loading a design, then it could point us the components which have the same name but are not completely identical. [Dream mode on] Load a file into Protel Start 'report library component compare' Protel reports: library component 'X' found # times. Version 1.5 and Version 1.6 Do you want to show them in overlay mode and highlight differences? After checking the differences, choose 'Update all instances to new version' or 'Update selection to new version' or 'Cancel' [Dream mode off] Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Which library is used in UpdatePCB * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Cannot get 'Complex - Simple' hierarchy working.
Hello Jim, I have a basic 2 sheet schematic - a master a simple module. The master sheet references 27 copies of the module schematic (create symbol from sheet) and each module requires unique port (symbol I/O) references to be daisy-chained together in a systematic way on the master sheet to complete an electrically accurate drawing. I never done this but I have seen some documentation on the Protel site which might help you. http://www.protel.com/earticles/index.html This location provides several pieces of information for schematic, pcb etc. http://www.protel.com/etech/prod_doc.htm You can download the complete handbook from this page, it contains more information than the 'standard' Protel99 manual. There are also some other documents. In the past I downloaded a file called 'hierarchy.pdf'. I don't know where you can download this file at the moment. It is a file of 118kB. If you are interested I can mail it to your personal e-mail address. Succes. Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Change track to 'No Net' is not recognized by polygon rebuild
Hello World, I have seen a small problem, I will describe the steps to show the problem and hope someone understands what I mean. (because my knowledge of the english language has its limitations) I was designing a pcb with a polygon. There are some open areas on the pcb because I was using the 'remove dead copper' option. When i place a track in such a 'dead copper region' and give it the the same netname as the polygon, then Protel shows me a connection line because this track is not connected to anything. Very good behaviour of Protel, so continue to the next step. If I edit the properties of this track to 'No Net' then the connection line disappears. So far so good, everything still normal. But now it comes, force a 'rebuild' of the polygon and see what happens. In my situation the polygon wil fill the 'isolated area' with copper and connects to the track. It seems that the polygon still is 'thinking' that the trace has the same net. Save and close the pcb file Open the pcb file again. Rebuild the polygon again. Now the polygon handles the trace correctly as a 'No Net' trace. The reason that I discoverd this problem was because I wanted to block an area for the polygon. After placing the polygon I saw that the polygon was 'leaking' between some tracks and this resulted in a useless, uggly looking, piece of copper. I decided to place a 'layer specific keepout' track to close the leak. In first instance this track had the same net as the polygon because I was drawing it on top of the polygon. Then I changed the netname of the track to 'No Net', checked the 'Keepout' mark and did a rebuild of the polygon. The result was the described situation. The problem is easy to solve, use the menu Place=Keepout=Track. This results directly in a 'No Net / keepout' track Nevertheless I mention the small problem because if we don't mention any problems then Protel cannot solve them. We know that Protel is listening to us and that is a very good situation. Goodluck all, Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Bug - Move Selection (and flipping layers) SP6
Hello Ian, 6) See that tracks and free surface pads are missing. 7) Alt-BkSpace (Undo) 8) See that tracks are still missing after the undo operation. Try pressing the 'End' key if you think the screen is incomplete. This will redraw the screen. Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: [PEDA] Bug - Move Selection (and flipping layers) SP6 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Bug - Move Selection (and flipping layers) SP6
Ian Wrote: I should have been more explicit and anticipated this. Redrawing the screen does not help. The tracks are not displayed. In fact if you know where one is you can double click and bring up its properties. If you then change its layer (to any other layer) it will then display correctly. The error is some sort of incomplete iteration of the linked lists or whatever in the display routines, at least this is what it looks like. Ian Hello Ian, Now I understand what you mean. I see the 'hooroo' greeting as long as i can remember so i was wondering how it was possible that such an Protel expert did not know about the redraw 'End' key. I should know better before answering with this response. Sorry Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Arc's in the keepout
Hello all, David Cary wrote: Just a work-around until Protel fixes this bug: Put temporary keep-out ``traces'' (a bunch of short, straight lines that approximate the curve) around the edge of the board, and leave them there. Click the KeepOutLayer tab near the bottom of the screen, then P (Place) T (Interactive Routing) , click on one end of the curve, hit Ctrl+Spacebar until you get the straight-line mode, then click click click on a few points along the curve; after you hit the end, Esc Esc. I've been told that early versions of Autocad couldn't draw true circles -- it drew 32 sided polygons instead -- but most people never noticed that the circles weren't true circles. Ik think it is also possible to photoplot the arc to a gerber file and use the option 'Use software arcs'. This option could be found in the 'advanced tab' of the Gerber setup. The arc will be replaced by short straight line segments. The gerber file could be imported back into the pcb. This is not my own idea, in the past it was mentioned by someone on the forum. Let's do it together, the forum is great! Aalt Lokhorst (e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]) address: Schut Geometrische Meettechniek bv Duinkerkenstraat 21 9723 BN Groningen, The Netherlands tel. +31 50-5877877 fax. +31 50-5877899 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
