[PEDA] AW: a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Georg Beckmann
I read this thread for about two days and would like to tell you what I do with the library stuff. First, I only use my private library which contains only footprints and parts I used in a design. Any footprint has a dedicated reference from a schematic part. The schematic part has a reference to

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Ian Wilson
On 08:55 PM 24/07/2001 -0700, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: >As I stated, I do prefer that we move this discussion to the new list, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] You may prefer but the vast majority if people responding do not want another mail list it seems... Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Ted Tontis
I started the thread on this subject. I knew the size of this project was going to be large, that is why I posted the thread in the first place. I wanted to see if anyone else would like to help or even if anyone wanted to have a large library system that was free. My idea was to get every

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Brad Velander
Abd ul-Rahman, a footprint without associated paste mask detailing is only an incomplete solution. It's like having the PCB without components or a soldering iron to attach them. So everybody goes off into their corner and duplicates their time and efforts to prescribe and describe the pas

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Brooks,Bill
Hi Ted, Wow... this really got some very interesting attention... Good points all. Ted, It sounds like you are working with those guys over at WindRiver in San Diego. They have undertaken a project to 'standardize' all footprints in millimeters and provide them with development tools and accessori

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:10 PM 7/25/01 +1000, Ian Wilson wrote: >On 08:55 PM 24/07/2001 -0700, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said: > >>As I stated, I do prefer that we move this discussion to the new list, >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >You may prefer but the vast majority if people responding do not want >another mail list it seem

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:29 AM 7/25/01 -0500, Ted Tontis wrote: > As designers we sometimes have to make the impossible happen, and we >do make it happen. So why then all the negative remarks? All I know is that if you want to accomplish something valuable, get used to it. It is *much* easier to sit back

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> >You may prefer but the vast majority if people responding do not want > >another mail list it seems... > > Mr. Wilson, we know, is allergic to new lists and only accepts them with > difficulty. However, there will need to be a *lot* of detailed discussion, I don't think a new list is needed to

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Max Henzi
>From my standpoint, it is counterproductive to start a new list to deal with this issue. Having multiple lists merely serves to fragment the user community. If the topic is germane to Protel users, then it should appear on this list. I for one, do not have the time or the inclination to monito

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew J Jenkins
On 10:23 PM 7/24/2001 -0400, Brian Guralnick wrote: >email glitch... > > For validation, on the PCB side, I used to place a 'scanned version' in >a translucent state, of the part over the footprint. I've been able to find >and correct many footprint problems in advance using this technique.

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Richard Sumner
For me at least, the issue of a separate list is moot. I'm interested, and I will (did) subscribe. Then it just comes as more email, mixed in with mail from all the other lists that I have joined. If a separate list makes it easier to administer, then I don't mind. A separate list does have

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Ted Tontis
AJ If you get a chance look over the Defining a CAD library at www.pcbstandards.com and see what wind river has set up for there standards. I thought it would be a good idea to try to stay with there standards as we could use there libraries and they could use ours. It would cut developmen

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew J Jenkins
On 01:10 PM 7/24/2001 -0700, Brad Velander wrote: >Andrew, > please don't throw me into the simple nay-sayers Nope. I didn't. Just "doubting" Thomas, to whom I originally replied. > I have my doubts >about whether it could be accomplished amongst a group as diverse as ours, >but it can

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew J Jenkins

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:11 PM 7/25/01 -0400, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: >As far as "verification" of parts goes, I oppose any bureaucratization that >would hinder or slow down the footprint distribution process. This sounds >like more "total quality management" business school bullsh*t. The buyer >beware - fr

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Phil So
The suggestions for locating the library on a web site has a lot of merit, especially in view of the concerns summarised here by Andrew. Software that is used for on-line catalogue shopping could possibly be adapted, or used as a model, to allow users to browse through the various permutations po

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:07 PM 7/25/01 -0400, Andrew J Jenkins wrote: >The problem, as I see it, with traffic in multiple locations is that it's >end result is fragmentation of the group and Meeting in committee is hardly "fragmentation." The records of the committee are open to the public and will remain so, and

Re: [PEDA] Divdide and conquer: a lib. for everyone

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew J Jenkins