Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Edi Im Hof
At 18:03 11.03.02 -0800, you wrote: >You sure you're not thinking of a different program... i've been using >spaces in footprints since Autotrax!! Have you also tried to "Update Footprint from Library"? It didn't work with spaces in the name. Edi Im Hof >Duane Foster > > > -Original Messa

Re: [PEDA] can't repair

2002-03-12 Thread Mark E Witherite

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:04 AM 3/12/2002 +0100, Edi Im Hof wrote: >Have you also tried to "Update Footprint from Library"? It didn't work >with spaces in the name. Frankly, I consider the *recognition* of spaces in a footprint name to be a sort of bug or inferior operation. I have somewhat grudgingly accepted sp

[PEDA] Test point Pad Size

2002-03-12 Thread Tim Fifield
Can anybody tell me what the recommended test point pad size to be used with the GenRAD GR228xi in circuit tester is? I think were using a combo II board. Our manufacturing dept. wants me to use a 100 thou diameter pad which seems quite excessive to me. I currently have a 35 thou pad. Tim Fifiel

Re: [PEDA] Test point Pad Size

2002-03-12 Thread Bob Wolfe
Tim, It really depends on what your test group requirements are, based on quite a few things but one would be type of probe being used, even if the tester is capable of smaller pads and spacing, also the level at which a fixture is made would govern that too. But with a newer GenRad system I would

[PEDA] Is it a bug, or me?

2002-03-12 Thread Sean James
Why do components and their pads magically have coordinates that are either xxx.999 or xxx.001? I'm working on a .5 mil grid, with a .5 mil component grid, and a 5 mil electrical grid. It's very aggravating. Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01603 TEL 50

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Brad Velander
Edi, bingo, you got it. The update failure problem was associated with spaces (possibly other special characters) in the footprint name. I remember well because I had to take all the spaces out of many footprints when I first started. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat In

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Brad Velander
Abd-ul Rahman, how about Protel just limits the naming of footprints to allow only legal characters and only the length limitation which functions properly. Afterall such is just reasonable programming, disallowing illegal functions, a new concept to Protel! Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lea

Re: [PEDA] Is it a bug, or me?

2002-03-12 Thread Dan Beaudoin
It's a bug. I've been having the same problem for quite a while. I think it may happen when the grid is changed from mils to mm and then back, but I'm not sure. - Original Message - From: "Sean James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 12

Re: [PEDA] Is it a bug, or me?

2002-03-12 Thread api
Protel has a few problems with mm and inches. I've often seen small rounding errors creep in, and although I don't have any evidence, I have suspected it's got something to do with repeatedly switching the units diplayed. I've heard hearsay that Protel prefers to work in imperial units. Andrew

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Duane Foster
Just to clarify - i have some footprints with a space in the name from 10-12 years ago; but i stopped using spaces in footprint names several years back. I am in agreement with others that the underscore is more appropriate and this is how I currently name new footprints. I haven't been bit by th

Re: [PEDA] Is it a bug, or me?

2002-03-12 Thread Tim Fifield
I've noticed those rounding errors as well. Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:57 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Is it a bug, or me? Protel has a few problems with mm and inches. I've often seen small

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:22 AM 3/12/2002 -0800, Brad Velander wrote: >Abd-ul Rahman, > how about Protel just limits the naming of footprints to allow only >legal characters and only the length limitation which functions properly. That is exactly my proposal. The processing of names which contain spaces is

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
When wanting a separator in names, I use the underscore '_'. Will that be a legal character in this proposal? I hope so. So Abdul, is your name written: "Abdul-RahmanLomax" if upper and lower case is OK, but spaces are not. "ABDULRAHMANLOMAX" if only uppercase is OK, and non-alphanumerics are f

[PEDA] Enclosures.

2002-03-12 Thread Brian Guralnick
I looking for a North American supplier for enclosures with heatsinks. If anyone knows where to buy, can you please contact me off list. Example cases: http://www.thlaudio.com/casebpwrE.htm Thank, Brian Guralnick please note the change in email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *

[PEDA] Employment Opportunity, Auckland, New Zealand

2002-03-12 Thread Wayne Bickers
Printed Circuit Board Designer Working predominantly with R&D engineers, this person reports to the Drawing Office Manager on a day-to-day and personal/performance basis. The person would work on PCB's in all three of Tru-Test's product areas - electric fence, electronic (livestock) scales and mi

Re: [PEDA] Enclosures.

2002-03-12 Thread Brian Sherer
Try Flexibox, distributed by Powerbox USA: http://www.powerbox.se/ They have a range of sizes. Somewhat pricey, but sturdy and well thought out. Can't screen the front panel, though, so plan on added label cost. Brian At 01:43 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >I looking for a North American su

Re: [PEDA] can't repair

2002-03-12 Thread Dwight
It MIGHT be an MDAC problem. Does 'compress' work on a good ddb? Here's the link to MS's website for the Microsoft Data Access Components(MDAC); I think Protel supports MDAC 2.5 -- I'd check the knowledge base, too. http://www.microsoft.com/data/download.htm > -Original Message- > From

Re: [PEDA] Single Sided PCB

2002-03-12 Thread Dwight
Can't you just set type to "Round" and have different x & y? That's how the IC (SMT) pads in some of my footprints are defined, and it seems to work for through-hole pads as well. > -Original Message- > From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 7

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Dennis Saputelli
actually although the spaces are supported in winxx if used they require the use of quotation marks so the string may be parsed when an argument is passed Dennis Saputelli Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: > > When wanting a separator in names, I use the underscore '_'. Will that be a > legal char

Re: [PEDA] can't repair

2002-03-12 Thread Dennis Saputelli
thanks for that i'll check it out this a brand new box and fresh install of protel and all programs are you suggesting that one of the progs mess with that file? update: now on this new system (and not yet having looked into dwight's suggestion) sometimes closing the DDB shuts down protel unexpec

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:12 PM 3/12/2002 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: >When wanting a separator in names, I use the underscore '_'. Will that be a >legal character in this proposal? I hope so. underscores and hyphens should definitely be legal characters. So should periods and asterisks and many or most

Re: [PEDA] Single Sided PCB

2002-03-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:55 PM 3/12/2002 -0800, Dwight wrote: >Can't you just set type to "Round" and have different x & y? That's how the >IC (SMT) pads in some of my footprints are defined, and it seems to work for >through-hole pads as well. [I wrote:] > Protel does not directly support cut pads (circular pad

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Geoff Harland
> At 01:12 PM 3/12/2002 -0500, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: > >When wanting a separator in names, I use the underscore '_'. Will that be a > >legal character in this proposal? I hope so. > > underscores and hyphens should definitely be legal characters. So should > periods and asterisks and ma

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-12 Thread Matthew Leigh
At 20:35 12/03/02 -0500, you wrote: >I'm not fond of lower case Ls. There is also a problem with O and zero >which is not so easy to solve, unless it is insisted that zero have a slash. The various ways of representing zeros have caused a few headaches in the past. Here's a decent writeup abou