Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-10-19 Thread Stacy Harim
You all can be upset with me if you want to, but I think that using the tactic that they did will hopefully make people think twice. People encounter someone with paralysis at some point in their lives whether meeting them or just crossing paths in a store but most of the time, they don't know

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-10-19 Thread wheelchair
Amen Stacy! MADD had one punch in a very nasty boxing match. Doesn't make any difference whether it was below the belt or the lucky knockout punch, as ya only get one. If they save just one its worth the punch. Just last weekend in Chicagoland Suburb, 2 young boys were killed and 3

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-10-19 Thread Stacy Harim
There is a girl here that was drinking and playing chicken in traffic and is now quadraplegic. There is crazy traffic here in the summer when all the tourists get here and these kids get drunk and stupid and put their lives on the line. Not only isthis girla quad, she is a bitter one like it's

[QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-10-19 Thread wheelchair
Ok so what's the answer. Is prevention the best medicine? W n a message dated 10/19/2006 4:11:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a girl here that was drinking and playing chicken in traffic and is now quadraplegic. There is crazy traffic here in the

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-10-19 Thread RollinOn
Message - From: Stacy Harim To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/19/2006 4:13:55 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical There is a girl here that was drinking and playing chicken in traffic and is now quadraplegic. There is crazy traffic here in the summer when all the tourists get here

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-10-19 Thread B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)
but there's nothing on it that hasn't happened to a quad. It doesn't matter how they get it just as long as they get! And not this. Mark Jackson- Original Message - From: Stacy Harim To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: 10/19/2006 4:13:55 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-10-19 Thread Stacy Harim
I wish because it would be so much easier for me because i would have a load of people I could ask questions of. Thanks so much for offereing."B. Kimberlin (Quadius)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacy,I am not sure if I qualify for your questioning, but I am a 42-year-old quad that has been injured

[QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-27 Thread River Wolfe
you could word this any number of ways. I just found the sentence to be a little vague. Good luck, QuadiusRiver Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Begin forwarded message:From: River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 25, 2006 12:34:41 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-26 Thread Oconnelldb
i'm just not into the 'everything will be ok honey - they are doing wonderful things with stem cells now days'story. i also think the future holds more disappointments than thrills - i am very glad i don't have a crystal ball. o'c In a message dated 9/25/2006 2:47:25 P.M. US Mountain

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-26 Thread Oconnelldb
with a new sci don't want to see someone 30 yrs. post. They are still raw and emotional and that just confirms their hopelessness. One must ease into the reality of quadom, otherwise it is overwhelming.From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] MADD

RE: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-26 Thread MissLiz
I thought about. I think its a good ad. If it effects one kid, it works for me. From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:07 PM To: Quad-List Subject: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical Begin forwarded message: From: River

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical (peer counseling)

2006-09-26 Thread B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)
with a new sci don't want to see someone 30 yrs. post. They are still raw and emotional and that just confirms their hopelessness. One must ease into the reality of quadom, otherwise it is overwhelming.From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] MADD-CommericalDate

[QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread River Wolfe
Hello everybody We just wanted to let you know that MADD has an outrageous commercial out involving people with disabilities. The link is http://www.madd.ca/english/news/pr/madd_best_friend_1.mov . If anyone has time please write MADD a letter. Their address is: MADD National Office 511 E.

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread Bill_J
- From: River Wolfe To: Quad List Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:54 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] MADD Hello everybody We just wanted to let you know that MADD has an outrageous commercial out involving people with disabilities. The link is http://www.madd.ca

[QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread wheelchair
Interesting Concept, but not outrageous, by any means. If I thought dancing naked in the streets of New York or Chicago would make anyone reconsider doing anything that risky, I too would consider doing it. Granted, that would be outrageous, if you knew me. I'm spending too much time in

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread Oconnelldb
what is outrageous? that someone ends up in a w/c and has to see his best friend head out with his ex g/f? that's pretty much real life if you ask me. this might just make someone think b/4 going out and doing something stupid - the outrageous part might be - probably it will have no

[QUAD-L] MADD-comments

2006-09-25 Thread wheelchair
Very true OC! I'd rather be slapped for the warning then slapped, after the fact and ask'd why I didn't think to warn. And sometimes you have to be and do outrageous things just to get people's attention. Just ask any commercial marketing group or ad people. Best Wishes W In a message

[QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread River Wolfe
Begin forwarded message:From: River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: September 25, 2006 12:34:41 PM EDTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical Hi everyone,I look at this commercial and I look at the message just beyond the image on the screen.  As a person who has led a full life

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread David K. Kelmer
Hi River,Thanks for the info on MADD. That is a pretty cold hearted way to get their message out! They will hear from me about it.With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello everybody We just wanted to let you

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread David K. Kelmer
onday, September 25, 2006 5:54 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] MADDHello everybody We just wanted to let you know that MADD has an outrageous commercial out involving people with disabilities. The link is http://www.madd.ca/english/news/pr/madd_best_friend_1.mov . If anyone has time please writ

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-comments

2006-09-25 Thread ~LittleQuad~
c'mon ya'll think about it from pre-SCI life...when being in a wheelchair was the most horrible thinginstead of having to be in the wheelchair...and looking out i saw nothing wrong with it[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Very true OC!I'd rather be slapped for the warning then

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread ~LittleQuad~
even harder to catch the leopard... o'c!!![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is outrageous? that someone ends up in a w/c and has to see his best friend head out with his ex g/f? that's pretty much real life if you ask me. this might just make someone think b/4 going out and doing

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-comments

2006-09-25 Thread David K. Kelmer
Hi Wheels,Nothing wrong with getting slapped with facts, but what facts are shown in this MADD ad?The "Best Friend" and the"Girlfriend" meeting and hugging just outside the window ofthe guy in thechair. Just because he is in a chair doesn't mean he was drinking while driving. Maybe he was hit

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
To: Quad List Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:54 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] MADD Hello everybody We just wanted to let you know that MADD has an outrageous commercial out involving people with disabilities. The link is http://www.madd.ca/english/news/pr/madd_best_friend_1.mov . If anyone has time please

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD

2006-09-25 Thread Bill_J
the other hand, you have different fingers. - Original Message - From: David K. Kelmer To: Bill_J ; Quad-List Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MADD Hi Bill, I thought the same way the first time I watched it, but the second time

[QUAD-L] MADD-comments Military Jodi

2006-09-25 Thread wheelchair
Ask anyone who served in the Military about the "Jodi Syndrome." Jodi, was going to be the person who stole your girl while you were in the military. Funny, but I was most fortunate to never have met Jodi, but I knew of several who's lives were affected by a Jodi who went by several other

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread Bill_J
From: River Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 25, 2006 12:34:41 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical Hi everyone, I look at this commercial and I look at the message just beyond the image on the screen. As a person who has led a full life AFTER

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread DeLiMiTeD4
EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical Hi everyone, I look at this commercial and I look at the message just beyond the image on the screen. As a person who has led a full life AFTER disability (including dating and relationships) I find the implication that after

[QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread wheelchair
Good Point John. But I can also see Rivers point and agree that this commercial should never be aired in a trauma hospital to a person who is a patient facing and unknown future. I would also hope that it not be aired in a rehab environment as people are trying to put their lives back in

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)
I definitely understand where you're coming from regarding meeting too many people with new SCI injuries. I was a peer counselor for quite some time and could not figure out why I had recurring difficulties getting motivated properly. After discovering that the peer counseling seem to be doing

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread Oconnelldb
ya know... i contacted a rehab center near me after my 35 years with an sci and offered to talk to any new injuries they were luke warm at best - kinda blew me off. i may offer again - i would like to give back a little if i could... if not, oh well. o'c In a message dated

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-comments Military Jodi

2006-09-25 Thread B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)
As a former drill sergeant and guilty promulgator of this particular syndrome, I have seen the unfortunate aftermath when someone does lose their girlfriend/boyfriend to another while they are gone. It doesn't seem to discriminate.Quadius[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ask anyone who served in the

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)
When they first started the program officially, they made sure I signed some confidentiality agreements and gave me a little training. While this can be a mutually fulfilling endeavor, just be careful of burnout. It is also important to remember that if someone does not do well after they leave

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread River Wolfe
Is the the advice you would offer at the rehab center?  I guess that could be why they turned you down.  peace,Riverthat someone ends up in a w/c and has to see his best friend head out with his ex g/f?  that's pretty much real life if you ask meya know... i contacted a rehab center near me

Re: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical ~ just do it yourself

2006-09-25 Thread Bobbie299
Just wanter the halls and talk to the patient or family members. That's whatI do. ~ Bobbie ya know... i contacted a rehab center near me after my 35 years with an sci and offered to talk to any new injuries they were luke warm at best - kinda blew me off. i may offer again - i would like

[QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread wheelchair
That is understandable OC, but not right. Since I don't know that center... its difficult to make comment. But you have a rehab facility that specializes in SCI or Neuro Injuries, you have to be the person to meet. Hope that by now you've joined your local SCI Chapter and shared some

FW: [QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread William Willis
-L] MADD-Commerical Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:42:40 EDT That is understandable OC, but not right. Since I don't know that center... its difficult to make comment. But you have a rehab facility that specializes in SCI or Neuro Injuries, you have to be the person to meet. Hope that by now

[QUAD-L] MADD-Commerical

2006-09-25 Thread wheelchair
Wise advice, my friend. But often family members, spouses and relatives have tons of questions. W In a message dated 9/25/2006 8:10:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People with a new sci don't want to see someone 30 yrs. post. They are still raw and emotional