Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
Thanks for all the info Greg! I have heard of the Camelbac but never needed one. Just one more thing on my list of things to do but if I want it or need it bad enough... obviously I will find a way somehow. I am trying to cut down on expenses but, every time I do, it's time to order this or that or the other thing. Thanks again! On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:27 PM, greg <g...@eskimo.com> wrote: > Camelbac is no issue, IV tube can be. I just sucked until water got to > tip, then breathed, and started drinking. You get the hang of it after a > few sips. > > > what about getting air in your stomach > > > > > > From: greg <g...@eskimo.com> > > To: quad-list@eskimo.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:42 PM > > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a > > sp cath on a c2 quad. > > > > > > I use to do 2 things. > > Camelbac, a water backpack with drinking tube. Helps if you can > > turn your head. But don't need to. Whats nice is you bite to drink, > > so no dripping. And if you just lay it on bed, you only need the > > insert bladder. Many sizes. I'm sure you can find cheaper > > https://www.amazon.com/Camelbak-70-Antidote-Replacement- > > Reservoir/dp/B00437WWMA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1490319530=8- > > 1=camelbak+insert > > > > Also used IV tube as a straw. Tip, if drink is higher than you, > > blow water back after drinking. Otherwise at best it drips, at > > worst it starts a siphon and drains on you. > > Greg > > > > > >> What level are you? > >> > >>> I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been > >>> struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window > >>> open/fan up. I've found a few home automation projects in the > >>> past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. > >>> So ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in > >>> upright position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds > >>> with sip'n'puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. > >>> > >>> -Danny > >>> ex network/security engineer > -- "Petting, scratching and cuddling a dog could be soothing to the mind and heart and deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer." ~Dean Koontz
Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
Camelbac is no issue, IV tube can be. I just sucked until water got to tip, then breathed, and started drinking. You get the hang of it after a few sips. > what about getting air in your stomach > > > From: greg <g...@eskimo.com> > To: quad-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:42 PM > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a > sp cath on a c2 quad. > > > I use to do 2 things. > Camelbac, a water backpack with drinking tube. Helps if you can > turn your head. But don't need to. Whats nice is you bite to drink, > so no dripping. And if you just lay it on bed, you only need the > insert bladder. Many sizes. I'm sure you can find cheaper > https://www.amazon.com/Camelbak-70-Antidote-Replacement- > Reservoir/dp/B00437WWMA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1490319530=8- > 1=camelbak+insert > > Also used IV tube as a straw. Tip, if drink is higher than you, > blow water back after drinking. Otherwise at best it drips, at > worst it starts a siphon and drains on you. > Greg > > >> What level are you? >> >>> I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been >>> struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window >>> open/fan up. I've found a few home automation projects in the >>> past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. >>> So ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in >>> upright position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds >>> with sip'n'puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. >>> >>> -Danny >>> ex network/security engineer
Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
I don't like my head covered, but pull the blankets over my ears and eyes. I use a spring clip to clip the blanket to my bottom sheet, other wise as I move around, if slides down. I sleep slightly turned and can get my top arm uncovered and sometimes covered back up. Having it clpped helps. I often wear a fleace hat or ear muffs when its colder. The nice thing about the tube, either IV tube straw, or Camelbak, you an keep it under coves with you. I even wore a sweat band and had the IV tube under it. To hold it to my wrist. Greg > I have this same problem (overnight). Thing is... ever since my > accident and for as long as I can remember I like my head covered > to sleep. I thought I was alone in wanting that for the longest > time but later, after many correspondences with other quads, found > out I was not alone. > > > So... I have always had my spouse, family member or caregiver cover > my head before sleep. Then... if I get too warm or need a drink > during the night I have to call someone (like originally stated by > someone else above). > > > Even if I had a drinking system... I can fortunately get out from > under the covers covering my head with the use of right arm but I > can't cover myself back up. I see no solution for that particular > problem. So I would be able to get out to get a drink but I > wouldn't be able to cover my head back up to get comfortable again > or if I get cold many times in the wee hours of the morning ... I > do get cold. > > > It's always something that seems to be a Catch-22 more times than > not. *Sigh* > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 6:41 PM, gregwrote: > >> I use to do 2 things. > Camelbac, a water backpack with drinking tube. Helps if you can > turn your head. But don't need to. Whats nice is you bite to drink, > so no dripping. And if you just lay it on bed, you only need the > insert bladder. Many sizes. I'm sure you can find cheaper > https://www.amazon.com/Camelbak-70-Antidote-Replacement- > Reservoir/dp/B00437WWMA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1490319530=8- > 1=camelbak+insert > > Also used IV tube as a straw. Tip, if drink is higher than you, > blow water back after drinking. Otherwise at best it drips, at > worst it starts a siphon and drains on you. > Greg > >> >> What level are you? >> >>> I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been >>> struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window >>> open/fan up. I've found a few home automation projects in the >>> past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. >>> So ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in >>> upright position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds >>> with sip'n'puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. >>> >>> -Danny >>> ex network/security engineer
RE: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
Danny, I too use a CamelBak in bed at night. I have use of my arms so I can reach the tube and get it to my mouth but I feel The tube could be clipped near your head as long as you can turn your head. Nichole From: Danny Espinoza [mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:12 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window open/fan up. I've found a few home automation projects in the past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with sip'n'puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. -Danny ex network/security engineer
RE: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
All great ideas I’m going to try them thanks! -Danny From: Gail Holmes [mailto:fgdhol...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 1:12 AM To: da...@immortaldesigns.co Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. This may not work for you Danny but the C4-5 quad I worked for has a T- shaped microphone stand with a tripod base that holds a water valve next to his mouth. It's cumbersome but it was already in place to hold his microphone which is kept about 1/2 an inch from his mouth while in bed to control his ECU for ( lights, thermostat, tv, and opening back door). We used this same mic stand to hang a Camel Bak brand water bag with the tubing running alongside the arm of the stand and attached wit narrow Velcro straps. The Bite valve is at the end of his microphone close to his mouth and secured with a rubber band. I put the bladder of the camel bak in a nylon bag that has 2 handles like a plastic grocery bag. Actually a grocery bag might work just as well. I threaded the handles of the nylon bag on the top loop of the camel Bak bag so it wouldn't just flop over or fold on itself. The nylon holder hangs by the two handles right where the top or horizontal part ( arm ) of the stand meets the vertical post ( leg ) of the stand. I put a hole at the bottom of the nylon bag and put the tube through this hole. The arm of the stand is adjusted up or down until it's at the right level each nite depending on the head of the bed. He has two of the 100 oz. Camel Bak bladders called the Antidote that Greg mentioned so one can be washed and hung to dry. If you want cleaning tablets they are cheaper at Walmart sporting good section but a tip is to use denture tablets for routine cleaning which is cheaper still unless you use dish soap. We tried the cheaper Walmart Ozark brand water bladders but the Bite valve was straight in-line with the tubing making it harder to access and it also dripped. The Camel Bak brand brand bite valve is not only drip free as Greg mentioned but it's also the only one that I knew of at the time ( it's been a few years ) that had the valve at a 90 degree angle to the tubing making it easier to access. Also the cap opening was large enough to put my whole hand into it to clean the bladder thoroughly. Of course the set up with the mic stand only works for bedtime but you can turn it around and position it to be accessible when in your chair but it's easy run into to and knock over. When in his chair he uses the portable set up Randy mentioned with the Loc Line modular hose somehow rigged with connectors and with smaller tubing that would go through the Loc line and then reconnect to the camelback somehow. It was made by someone in the Rehab Technology department at Craig Hospital and cost about $130 or so maybe $150 when he had surgery a few years ago. What I'm wondering is if the instructions for making this device could be emailed if requested by calling the free Nurse Hotline at the hospital if it's not proprietary. There are also photos of products made with what looks like this flexible Loc Line product on the Broadened Horizons website. I think the tubing that can go inside of the Loc Line is the kind used for ice-makers that you can get at the hardware store but I'm not sure. Somehow there's gotta be a way for everyone to access water at night! I'm looking forward to checking out these web sites that Joan sent like the instructables! I hope something works out for you soon. I have 2 of the inferior Walmart brand bladders never used and a cleaning set that I'll be glad to mail to anyone who needs them. Gail Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:11 AM, Danny Espinoza <da...@immortaldesigns.co <mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co> > wrote: I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window open/fan up. I’ve found a few home automation projects in the past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with sip’n’puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. -Danny ex network/security engineer
Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
This may not work for you Danny but the C4-5 quad I worked for has a T- shaped microphone stand with a tripod base that holds a water valve next to his mouth. It's cumbersome but it was already in place to hold his microphone which is kept about 1/2 an inch from his mouth while in bed to control his ECU for ( lights, thermostat, tv, and opening back door). We used this same mic stand to hang a Camel Bak brand water bag with the tubing running alongside the arm of the stand and attached wit narrow Velcro straps. The Bite valve is at the end of his microphone close to his mouth and secured with a rubber band. I put the bladder of the camel bak in a nylon bag that has 2 handles like a plastic grocery bag. Actually a grocery bag might work just as well. I threaded the handles of the nylon bag on the top loop of the camel Bak bag so it wouldn't just flop over or fold on itself. The nylon holder hangs by the two handles right where the top or horizontal part ( arm ) of the stand meets the vertical post ( leg ) of the stand. I put a hole at the bottom of the nylon bag and put the tube through this hole. The arm of the stand is adjusted up or down until it's at the right level each nite depending on the head of the bed. He has two of the 100 oz. Camel Bak bladders called the Antidote that Greg mentioned so one can be washed and hung to dry. If you want cleaning tablets they are cheaper at Walmart sporting good section but a tip is to use denture tablets for routine cleaning which is cheaper still unless you use dish soap. We tried the cheaper Walmart Ozark brand water bladders but the Bite valve was straight in-line with the tubing making it harder to access and it also dripped. The Camel Bak brand brand bite valve is not only drip free as Greg mentioned but it's also the only one that I knew of at the time ( it's been a few years ) that had the valve at a 90 degree angle to the tubing making it easier to access. Also the cap opening was large enough to put my whole hand into it to clean the bladder thoroughly. Of course the set up with the mic stand only works for bedtime but you can turn it around and position it to be accessible when in your chair but it's easy run into to and knock over. When in his chair he uses the portable set up Randy mentioned with the Loc Line modular hose somehow rigged with connectors and with smaller tubing that would go through the Loc line and then reconnect to the camelback somehow. It was made by someone in the Rehab Technology department at Craig Hospital and cost about $130 or so maybe $150 when he had surgery a few years ago. What I'm wondering is if the instructions for making this device could be emailed if requested by calling the free Nurse Hotline at the hospital if it's not proprietary. There are also photos of products made with what looks like this flexible Loc Line product on the Broadened Horizons website. I think the tubing that can go inside of the Loc Line is the kind used for ice-makers that you can get at the hardware store but I'm not sure. Somehow there's gotta be a way for everyone to access water at night! I'm looking forward to checking out these web sites that Joan sent like the instructables! I hope something works out for you soon. I have 2 of the inferior Walmart brand bladders never used and a cleaning set that I'll be glad to mail to anyone who needs them. Gail Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:11 AM, Danny Espinozawrote: > > I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been struggling > between calling my family for a drink or my window open/fan up. I’ve found a > few home automation projects in the past buf I figure my quad list > buddies/family would know best. So ir was > 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright position. > 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with sip’n’puff, my PC or my right > arm to the wrist. > > -Danny > ex network/security engineer
Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
what about getting air in your stomach From: greg <g...@eskimo.com> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. #yiv0631939180 #yiv0631939180 --body{font-size:14pt;}#yiv0631939180 LI{display:list-item;margin:0.00in;}#yiv0631939180 p{display:block;margin:0.00in;}#yiv0631939180 body{}#yiv0631939180 I use to do 2 things.Camelbac, a water backpack with drinking tube. Helps if you can turn your head. But don't need to. Whats nice is you bite to drink, so no dripping. And if you just lay it on bed, you only need the insert bladder. Many sizes. I'm sure you can find cheaperhttps://www.amazon.com/Camelbak-70-Antidote-Replacement-Reservoir/dp/B00437WWMA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1490319530=8-1=camelbak+insert Also used IV tube as a straw. Tip, if drink is higher than you, blow water back after drinking. Otherwise at best it drips, at worst it starts a siphon and drains on you.Greg > What level are you?>>> I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far > have been>> struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window>> > open/fan up. I’ve found a few home automation projects in the>> past buf I > figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So>> ir was 1> Able to > drink something cold on my own while in upright>> position. 2> Ability to > control my bed/window/blinds with>> sip’n’puff, my PC or my right arm to the > wrist.>>>> -Danny>> ex network/security engineer
Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
I use to do 2 things. Camelbac, a water backpack with drinking tube. Helps if you can turn your head. But don't need to. Whats nice is you bite to drink, so no dripping. And if you just lay it on bed, you only need the insert bladder. Many sizes. I'm sure you can find cheaper https://www.amazon.com/Camelbak-70-Antidote-Replacement-Reservoir/dp/B00437WWMA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1490319530=8-1=camelbak+insert Also used IV tube as a straw. Tip, if drink is higher than you, blow water back after drinking. Otherwise at best it drips, at worst it starts a siphon and drains on you. Greg > What level are you? > >> I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been >> struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window >> open/fan up. Ive found a few home automation projects in the >> past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So >> ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright >> position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with >> sipnpuff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. >> >> -Danny >> ex network/security engineer
RE: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
I am a c2 incomplete that vent dependent but now I just have a trach for suckioning /oxygen and can move my right arm a little but not the left. I use DNS as well for typing sentences and my onscreen keyboard for programming. -Danny From: Randy Anderson [mailto:randyanderson...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:07 AM To: greg <g...@eskimo.com> Cc: quad-list <quad-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. Hello Denny I'm a c4/5 complete with no movement from the neck down. For drinking I use a Camelbac (that's a brand, there are others) on the back of my wheelchair and also in bed when necessary. You can find them on the Internet. They come in sizes, I used the hundred ounce. I attach it to the sip-puff tube on the wheelchair. When in bed I use a product called Loc-line, also on the Internet, for mounting the tubing so I can reach it during the night. I also use the Loc-line for mounting a sip and puff tube to answer/call with my phone. I do use Dragon Natural Speaking on the computer, ECU's on the wheelchair for front door opener and telephone, but for now that's about all the electronics I use. Randy On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:44 AM, greg <g...@eskimo.com <mailto:g...@eskimo.com> > wrote: What level are you? > I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been > struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window > open/fan up. I’ve found a few home automation projects in the past > buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So ir was > 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright > position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with > sip’n’puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. > > -Danny > ex network/security engineer
Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
You can ask for anything you want… From: Joan Anglin <poaj...@sbcglobal.net> To: 'Jeffrey Gaede' <jsga...@yahoo.com>; da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. #yiv2344796429 #yiv2344796429 -- _filtered #yiv2344796429 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2344796429 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv2344796429 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv2344796429 #yiv2344796429 p.yiv2344796429MsoNormal, #yiv2344796429 li.yiv2344796429MsoNormal, #yiv2344796429 div.yiv2344796429MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv2344796429 a:link, #yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2344796429 a:visited, #yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2344796429 p.yiv2344796429msonormal0, #yiv2344796429 li.yiv2344796429msonormal0, #yiv2344796429 div.yiv2344796429msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv2344796429 p.yiv2344796429msonormal, #yiv2344796429 li.yiv2344796429msonormal, #yiv2344796429 div.yiv2344796429msonormal {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv2344796429 p.yiv2344796429msochpdefault, #yiv2344796429 li.yiv2344796429msochpdefault, #yiv2344796429 div.yiv2344796429msochpdefault {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429msohyperlink {}#yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429msohyperlinkfollowed {}#yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429emailstyle17 {}#yiv2344796429 p.yiv2344796429msonormal1, #yiv2344796429 li.yiv2344796429msonormal1, #yiv2344796429 div.yiv2344796429msonormal1 {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}#yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429msohyperlink1 {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429msohyperlinkfollowed1 {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429emailstyle171 {color:windowtext;}#yiv2344796429 p.yiv2344796429msochpdefault1, #yiv2344796429 li.yiv2344796429msochpdefault1, #yiv2344796429 div.yiv2344796429msochpdefault1 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv2344796429 span.yiv2344796429EmailStyle29 {color:windowtext;}#yiv2344796429 .yiv2344796429MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv2344796429 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv2344796429 div.yiv2344796429WordSection1 {}#yiv2344796429 Can I ask for a Thunder from Down Under then? I have an Echo and yes it can do blinds if you have electric blind opener, and all sorts of things with Insteon, TP-link and other things, some of them just plain fun.Here are a couple of ideas for a drinking tube and other accessibility ideas. https://www.instructables.com/howto/drink+tube+for+wheelchair/I have this, bought it several years ago when it didn’t cost so much. https://www.drink-aide.com/Or you could make it yourself for half the price. https://www.grainger.com/category/ecatalog/N-1z0dtrh?analytics=altTermsI have a hospital table with a hole drilled the size of my drink cup and place it by the side of my bed and place the tube over my bed so that I can drink whenever I want. We’ve replaced the cup a couple of times. I also have this out during the day so that I can drive up and get a drink whenever. Have a great day every one, Joan From: Jeffrey Gaede [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] Sent: 23 March, 2017 3:57 AM To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. I suggest a really hot woman who will do anything you ask.. If that can't be managed… I've heard on here that Amazon Echo can run Insteon products which can help you with turning on/off by voice. Voice-activated software,, like Dragon NaturallySpeaking – it's gone to some other name again – can help you actually operate the computer by voice. The window and blinds might have to be made electronic,, so I'm not sure the technical side of that part,, but if they were and it simply took an infrared or radio signal, whichever it is that Amazon uses, it would help.. I have a service dog. He can be trained to open Blinds, an windows if it was all setup right. If by "in upright position"you mean your wheelchair, I purchased a kitchen table – there's only two of us – from a store that provides furniture/equipment to restaurants,, and found a table at the right height for sitting a large cup with a long straw (easily found online) aand driving under part of the table until I could reach the straw.From: Danny Espinoza <da...@immortaldesigns.co> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:14 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp ca
RE: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
Can I ask for a Thunder from Down Under then? I have an Echo and yes it can do blinds if you have electric blind opener, and all sorts of things with Insteon, TP-link and other things, some of them just plain fun. Here are a couple of ideas for a drinking tube and other accessibility ideas. https://www.instructables.com/howto/drink+tube+for+wheelchair/ I have this, bought it several years ago when it didn’t cost so much. https://www.drink-aide.com/ Or you could make it yourself for half the price. https://www.grainger.com/category/ecatalog/N-1z0dtrh?analytics=altTerms I have a hospital table with a hole drilled the size of my drink cup and place it by the side of my bed and place the tube over my bed so that I can drink whenever I want. We’ve replaced the cup a couple of times. I also have this out during the day so that I can drive up and get a drink whenever. Have a great day every one, Joan From: Jeffrey Gaede [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] Sent: 23 March, 2017 3:57 AM To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. I suggest a really hot woman who will do anything you ask.. If that can't be managed… I've heard on here that Amazon Echo can run Insteon products which can help you with turning on/off by voice. Voice-activated software,, like Dragon NaturallySpeaking – it's gone to some other name again – can help you actually operate the computer by voice. The window and blinds might have to be made electronic,, so I'm not sure the technical side of that part,, but if they were and it simply took an infrared or radio signal, whichever it is that Amazon uses, it would help.. I have a service dog. He can be trained to open Blinds, an windows if it was all setup right. If by "in upright position"you mean your wheelchair, I purchased a kitchen table – there's only two of us – from a store that provides furniture/equipment to restaurants,, and found a table at the right height for sitting a large cup with a long straw (easily found online) aand driving under part of the table until I could reach the straw. _ From: Danny Espinoza <da...@immortaldesigns.co <mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co> > To: quad-list@eskimo.com <mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:14 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window open/fan up. I’ve found a few home automation projects in the past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with sip’n’puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. -Danny ex network/security engineer
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Hello Denny I'm a c4/5 complete with no movement from the neck down. For drinking I use a Camelbac (that's a brand, there are others) on the back of my wheelchair and also in bed when necessary. You can find them on the Internet. They come in sizes, I used the hundred ounce. I attach it to the sip-puff tube on the wheelchair. When in bed I use a product called Loc-line, also on the Internet, for mounting the tubing so I can reach it during the night. I also use the Loc-line for mounting a sip and puff tube to answer/call with my phone. I do use Dragon Natural Speaking on the computer, ECU's on the wheelchair for front door opener and telephone, but for now that's about all the electronics I use. Randy On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:44 AM, gregwrote: > What level are you? > > > I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been > > struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window > > open/fan up. I’ve found a few home automation projects in the past > > buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So ir was > > 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright > > position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with > > sip’n’puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. > > > > -Danny > > ex network/security engineer >
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What level are you? > I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been > struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window > open/fan up. Ive found a few home automation projects in the past > buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So ir was > 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright > position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with > sipnpuff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. > > -Danny > ex network/security engineer
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I suggest a really hot woman who will do anything you ask.. If that can't be managed… I've heard on here that Amazon Echo can run Insteon products which can help you with turning on/off by voice. Voice-activated software,, like Dragon NaturallySpeaking – it's gone to some other name again – can help you actually operate the computer by voice. The window and blinds might have to be made electronic,, so I'm not sure the technical side of that part,, but if they were and it simply took an infrared or radio signal, whichever it is that Amazon uses, it would help.. I have a service dog. He can be trained to open Blinds, an windows if it was all setup right. If by "in upright position"you mean your wheelchair, I purchased a kitchen table – there's only two of us – from a store that provides furniture/equipment to restaurants,, and found a table at the right height for sitting a large cup with a long straw (easily found online) aand driving under part of the table until I could reach the straw. From: Danny Espinoza <da...@immortaldesigns.co> To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:14 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad. I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window open/fan up. I’ve found a few home automation projects in the past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with sip’n’puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. -Danny ex network/security engineer
[QUAD-L] Night time drinking "water or juice" with a sp cath on a c2 quad.
I get really thirsty sometimes at night and thus far have been struggling between calling my family for a drink or my window open/fan up. I've found a few home automation projects in the past buf I figure my quad list buddies/family would know best. So ir was 1> Able to drink something cold on my own while in upright position. 2> Ability to control my bed/window/blinds with sip'n'puff, my PC or my right arm to the wrist. -Danny ex network/security engineer
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I usually wear just a camisole top theirprettier than a tshirt and not as long. ginaandrea murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Believe it or not I wear t-shirts to bed.the ones that fit all. Its not binding and it easy for my cath. and they are a little sexier too.Wheelchair Warrior[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-shirtJim Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Why expect the worst when it will probably never happen? Wipe those gloomy thoughts from your mind and focus on what's going right instead. Havingf a positive outlook can change the outcome in so many ways.
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Butt is Naked with a T-Shirt and a Cowboys Blanket thats in Dallas Cowboys LOL Heater Temp on 68 degrees. I guess I'm Hot Blooded to some of You.. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
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A large terry towel wrapped around me - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] night time wear? What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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I wear sweat pants and a t shirt, my wife is my care-giver and works full time, she is very tired in the mornings and this way only has to range my legs and get me up-there is no way she could dress me each morning. Dan
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really nice soft think blanket.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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Nothing but a hat, I find if I have anything on my arms, it feels all bunched up. My am tend to bend up and it gets all wrinkled around the inside of my elbows. Plus, why risk sleeping on a wrinkles under my butt from PJ's. I often wear a soft fleece hat. It keeps my ears warm. If not, I often wake up with my blankets over my face trying to cover my ears. As goes my ears, goes my body (as far as cold goes.) Greg What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding Po's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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A smile if I shopped all over and found something comfortable for ME. A frown if not. Since everyone is different on comfort ... why get a dozen different answers here? Only YOUknow what's comfy for YOU. Thermal underwear tops or flannel ones work for me as I freeze. Others wear nothing. So in that BROAD range how does THAT help YOU? Unless you're new to winter weather! Lori Michaelson Age - 41 C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post Tucson, AZ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/01/05 17:32:48 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] night time wear? What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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Hi Wheels, Especially if those smiles are for us and our birthday suits. ;-) With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave and I both agree that women look better in bed wearing smiles... then birthdaysuits. What say ye old man.WIn a message dated 11/1/05 6:58:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Birthday SuitEric W Rudd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Bobbie, I wear bed sheets! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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Me too Greg, I wear a fleececap to keep my ears warm. As long asmy ears are warm I'm good to go. There's a lot of naked quads here no wonder everyone is smiling. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Greg Date: 11/02/05 12:41:47 To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] night time wear? Nothing but a hat, I find if I have anything on my arms, it feels all bunched up. My am tend to bend up and it gets all wrinkled around the inside of my elbows. Plus, why risk sleeping on a wrinkles under my butt from PJ's. I often wear a soft fleece hat. It keeps my ears warm. If not, I often wake up with my blankets over my face trying to cover my ears. As goes my ears, goes my body (as far as cold goes.) Greg What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding Po's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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T-shirt Jim
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Believe it or not I wear t-shirts to bed.the ones that fit all. Its not binding and it easy for my cath. and they are a little sexier too.Wheelchair Warrior[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-shirt Jim Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
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What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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Bobbie, again you surprised me. I thought all women only wear smiles to bed.. Best Wishes W In a message dated 11/1/05 6:32:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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In a message dated 11/1/2005 7:32:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you guys/gals wear to bed? Nothing. Shirts, gowns, pajamas all wrinkle and wrinkles can cause sores. I prefer au naturale. BillLeesburg, FLC-6 Incomplete since 7/20/68AOL/AIM ID: MikeyBird3Stupidity is NOT a handicap! Park elsewhere!
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Title: Message Birthday suit! Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:31 PMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] night time wear? What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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Which fits better? A smile or Birthday Suit? W In a message dated 11/1/05 6:50:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Birthday suit! Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Birthday Suit Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] night time wear? Which fits better? A smile or Birthday Suit? W In a message dated 11/1/05 6:50:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Birthday suit! Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dave and I both agree that women look better in bed wearing smiles... then birthday suits. What say ye old man. W In a message dated 11/1/05 6:58:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Birthday Suit Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Title: Re: [QUAD-L] night time wear? I sleep Bucke ed naked in the summer really yr round. But I might sleep in a T shirt if Im cold with a couple blankets. On 11/1/05 7:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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I get most of my shirts from a place called handcuffs.net, they are generally $20 apiece but if you watch for their sales you can generally get them a lot cheaper, I have gotten mine for as little as $6.66 . They not only have longsleeved T-shirts, longsleeve poll over sweatshirts, zip up front sweatshirts... they are not only longsleeved but the handcuffs around your thumb and fingers so your seams don't get twisted, that is a big annoyance of mine. The ones that I use during the day I split halfway up my back so they fit better and the ones that I use at night I split all the way up the back. They also keep your hands a little warmer during the winter. Handcuffs Sweatshirts Uniforms Promotional Corporate Gifts Take care and play nice Tammie LouI redid my homepage, please check it out and sign my guestbookchippertue.comChippertue's World
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In a message dated 11/1/2005 8:34:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I sleep Bucke ed naked in the summer really yr round. But I might sleep in a T shirt if I’m cold with a couple blankets. same here...maybe a sweatshirt in the winter.
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Nothing In a message dated 11/1/2005 4:32:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you guys/gals wear to bed? I have a hard time finding PJ's for winter. I use oversized T-shirts in the summer. Bobbie
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Jim,I am interested in to know how you are able to use two leg bags at the same time. The primary reason I do not use these type of bags is because they do not have enough volume capacity. Additionally, I used to lie back too much and my urine wasn't flowing downhill enough. This is one I used to have chronic UTIs. Now I wear a bed bag on the side of the chair. This bag has been cut down so I don't have excess tubing and am able to cover it sufficiently for aesthetic purposes.Billy[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also wear a condom catheter and have way over 50% success. I have my catheter changed every 36 hours or when needed. I am so diligent on telling my PCA is to make sure that my catheter is untwisted and that the tubing is run straight as possible. I also make sure that when I urinate while in my wheelchair that I am kept all the way forward to make sure everything flows downhill and I also where two 1000 CC leg bags. Jim Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'
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Billy, I sent my son to the auto store to find a plastic tee and a 90 degree elbow that would be used for vacuum lines on vehicles. He could not find a 90 degree elbow so he purchased two plastic tees. I had him lay two 1000 CC leg bags side-by-side. We took short pieces of latex tubing and connected to the two bags together. The tee that is not connected to your catheter, must have a short piece of latex tubing long enough to be folded over and taped to prevent the urine from flowing out the top. You can also purchase a plastic or rubber cap that fits over the end of the tee from the auto parts store.I can tell whenI have to urinate so, I make sure I tilt myself down so theurine flows downhill as much as possible.I have my leg bags strapped to my shin down by my ankle. Here is asimple diagram. Jim inline: Untitled.jpg
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I also wear a condom catheter and have way over 50% success. I have my catheter changed every 36 hours or when needed. I am so diligent on telling my PCA is to make sure that my catheter is untwisted and that the tubing is run straight as possible. I also make sure that when I urinate while in my wheelchair that I am kept all the way forward to make sure everything flows downhill and I also where two 1000 CC leg bags. Jim
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Another side effect ofedema. Is the pressure buildup on your nerves in your legs in feet causing them to tingle continuously. I start having these feelings almost immediately after I am placed in my wheelchair. If I tilt back for any length of time the feeling might lessen but then it comes back short left are going back down. It's just another thing that we have to deal with. Jim
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Jim I wear condom caths too and change mine almost every day to ensure no problems the most important thing is no kinks for me, I very seldom have any problems and after changing it a few times it's very quick to do after all it's just a condom how complicated can it be. Now if you sweat a lot you'll have problems andI'll sweat if I'm ill or somethings wrong but besides that it's the best move I've madeso far because those indwelling are a nightmare to deal with and kept me supplied with UTI's for 2 years no way I'd go back. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:42:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time I also wear a condom catheter and have way over 50% success. I have my catheter changed every 36 hours or when needed. I am so diligent on telling my PCA is to make sure that my catheter is untwisted and that the tubing is run straight as possible. I also make sure that when I urinate while in my wheelchair that I am kept all the way forward to make sure everything flows downhill and I also where two 1000 CC leg bags. Jim
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by useful 50% of the time i really meant for 50% of the population. yes definitely important to have free flowing conditions - this is no a pressure operated device. dave In a message dated 1/27/2005 7:43:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also wear a condom catheter and have way over 50% success. I have my catheter changed every 36 hours or when needed. I am so diligent on telling my PCA is to make sure that my catheter is untwisted and that the tubing is run straight as possible. I also make sure that when I urinate while in my wheelchair that I am kept all the way forward to make sure everything flows downhill and I also where two 1000 CC leg bags. Jim The moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William James 1906
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i often grease all up with lotion or baby oil before i 'suit up'. i stopped using tape because of sticking problems. now i use a piece of rubber legbag strap - repunch a hole to make it quite snug - nothing has to stick to anything now- put it on when relaxed and band won't slip off the end - works very well. dave In a message dated 1/27/2005 10:36:56 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim I wear condom caths too and change mine almost every day to ensure no problems the most important thing is no kinks for me, I very seldom have any problems and after changing it a few times it's very quick to do after all it's just a condom how complicated can it be. Now if you sweat a lot you'll have problems andI'll sweat if I'm ill or somethings wrong but besides that it's the best move I've madeso far because those indwelling are a nightmare to deal with and kept me supplied with UTI's for 2 years no way I'd go back. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:42:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Night time I also wear a condom catheter and have way over 50% success. I have my catheter changed every 36 hours or when needed. I am so diligent on telling my PCA is to make sure that my catheter is untwisted and that the tubing is run straight as possible. I also make sure that when I urinate while in my wheelchair that I am kept all the way forward to make sure everything flows downhill and I also where two 1000 CC leg bags. Jim The moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William James 1906
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Dana writes: snip Plus my urologist said that when your up in the chair, liquids settle in the lower parts of your body. When you lay flat or have you legs elevated the fluid evens out and causes more peeing. I don't know if she was just appeasing me or not This is true. While we sit our lymph nodes are getting restricted causing exactly that. You tend to see it in the ankle area first. That's why most doctors feel thereduring check-ups.
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oh hehe well wont help me.thanks tho[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's an external catheter made from a condom. useful 50% of the time. dave In a message dated 1/25/2005 2:52:49 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is a TEXAS cath??? thanks[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your 1st question hooked me. I use a texas cath and wifey empties my bag when she goes (once a night). I know, I could use a night bag. Guess that doesn't help huh? Sorry. Dave In a message dated 1/24/2005 2:46:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many of you that don't have indwelling catheters have to pee during the night?? Those of you who don't pee during the nightwhat do you do to avoid or prevent it? I'm tired of waking up 3-4 hours and having pee. We want a break!! Thanks...Amye http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad The moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William James 1906 The moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William James 1906
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Stop drinking after a certain time. If I recall you just had bladder surgery as I did. I sleep through the night but it required time/training my bladder. - Original Message - From: ~LittleQuad~ To: Quad-list post Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Night time How many of you that don't have indwelling catheters have to pee during the night?? Those of you who don't pee during the nightwhat do you do to avoid or prevent it? I'm tired of waking up 3-4 hours and having pee. We want a break!! Thanks...Amye http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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it's an external catheter made from a condom. useful 50% of the time. dave In a message dated 1/25/2005 2:52:49 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what is a TEXAS cath??? thanks[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your 1st question hooked me. I use a texas cath and wifey empties my bag when she goes (once a night). I know, I could use a night bag. Guess that doesn't help huh? Sorry. Dave In a message dated 1/24/2005 2:46:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many of you that don't have indwelling catheters have to pee during the night?? Those of you who don't pee during the nightwhat do you do to avoid or prevent it? I'm tired of waking up 3-4 hours and having pee. We want a break!! Thanks...Amye http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad The moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William James 1906 The moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William James 1906
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How many of you that don't have indwelling catheters have to pee during the night?? Those of you who don't pee during the nightwhat do you do to avoid or prevent it? I'm tired of waking up 3-4 hours and having pee. We want a break!! Thanks...Amye http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad
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Well, get used to it.:D Unless you put a catheter in, tape it in place and have it attached to a bed bag, you will be peeing every 3-4 hours. Actually thats good. I wake up naturally now every 2 hours if I need to or not. If I sleep for 3-4 hours that is a luxury! I do do a good amount of drinking at night. Plus my urologist said that when your up in the chair, liquids settle in the lower parts of your body. When you lay flat or have you legs elevated the fluid evens out and causes more peeing. I don't know if she was just appeasing me or not, but I 'always' pee more at night. take care, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quad-list post quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Night time How many of you that don't have indwelling catheters have to pee during the night?? Those of you who don't pee during the nightwhat do you do to avoid or prevent it? I'm tired of waking up 3-4 hours and having pee. We want a break!! Thanks...Amye http://fly.to/littlequad Yahoo ID - littlequad
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Your 1st question hooked me. I use a texas cath and wifey empties my bag when she goes (once a night). I know, I could use a night bag. Guess that doesn't help huh? Sorry. Dave In a message dated 1/24/2005 2:46:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many of you that don't have indwelling catheters have to pee during the night?? Those of you who don't pee during the nightwhat do you do to avoid or prevent it? I'm tired of waking up 3-4 hours and having pee. We want a break!! Thanks...Amye http://fly.to/littlequadYahoo ID - littlequad The moral flabbiness born of the bitch goddess Success. That- with the squalid cash interpretation put on the word success- is our national disease. -William James 1906
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Dana- what the doctor told you about that is correct, my doctors in rehab spinal cord injury class taught us all that. Most will go more laying down for nap or at night. Dan