Forrest,
I have tried both and prefer drops...I never got used to the mustache
bars.
Nothing wrong with having an accumulation (collection implies it was
intentional) of bars and stems.
Angus
On Dec 9, 5:11 pm, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote:
If you have (or had) an Atlantis, do (did) you
I live in northern Vt, one ride below the 45th parallel. I'm 6 miles
down the road to the nearest shops and services. Sunset, this time of
year is around 4:30 and until the big lakes freeze over, the weather
tends to be cloudy and snowy. With the moon in its last quarter its
very dark, very
I do not have a car, so am often tempted to ride the bike when and
where conditions are less than optimal. Over the years I have had
enough close calls that when things get really bad I either take mass
transit, a taxi, walk or stay put.
I want to enjoy cycling, not endure.
On Dec 10, 7:00 am,
I have bright lignts (front and rear), reflective vests and straps, studded
tires and warm clothers. I ride year round and this time of the year it is not
possible to commute to work with out riding in the dark on at least one leg of
the trip. I try to come in before the morning rush and
I totally agree. We've, here in Louisville on our local bicycle club list,
have had the same discussion. It's amazing how many people commute with
little or poor lighting. A few weeks ago a commuter was killed. The young man
was riding in the outside lane on a busy boulevard early in the
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:12 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
You keep it them at your uncle's farm with a pony. In Utah.
you mean like this?
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rush/red+barchetta_20119966.html
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Joel, Couldn't agree more.
Fortunately, having quality lights, fenders, tires etc making riding
in sub-optimal (but not hideous) conditions quite fun. There is a
certain satisfaction with adapting to the elements, and appetite for
that sort of challenge varies widely among riders.
And it blows
I'm in the same situation, w/no car. but, it's 16 miles to work with
no public transportation available, and I don't want to take a
taxi.Of course now it's dark when I leave at night.I use
reflective gear and lights, and it's all back roads, and it would not
be dangerous at all if it
The BBG guard is good. Not ugly. Cheap. Works.
On Dec 9, 10:19 pm, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
BBG's are CNC'ed in the USA and are less than $20 shipped:
http://www.bbgbashguard.com/
I need to get off my ass and get one for my fixed gear.
On Dec 9, 9:54 am, William
11F, Congrats.
This northeast cold snap is too sudden for me. I don't even know
where my balaclava is right now.
On Dec 10, 9:16 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm in the same situation, w/no car. but, it's 16 miles to work with
no public transportation available, and I
Cold is tolerable. I have ridden in sub-zero temps. Like the rest of
you, I use very bright (BM and Schmidt) lights.
The heavy wet snows we frequently get in Chicago are what get me off
the bike. To much snow shrinks the streets and impacts stop and
turning - mine and the cars.
Almost as bad,
Geddy knows what he's talking about!
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:12 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
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You keep it them at your uncle's farm with a pony. In Utah.
you mean like this?
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:04 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Geddy knows what he's talking about!
For the longest time I thought he was talking about a gas-powered recumbent.
:)
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Mike,
I have a place in Franklin and am out there under similar circumstances all
year round. I find drivers are pretty cool about giving me room. Of course
I have to do my part in terms of making my self visible.
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
I live in
Kentileguy,
i photographed my Roadeo this morning with its adjusted fit and the JB
Greens and my old Brooks Finesse saddle.
if you want to see it, it's here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16848...@n03/
kps
On Dec 9, 8:17 am, kps kshe...@gmail.com wrote:
I love the clearcoat. Will add new
Yeah, Boston also seems to shoot for this 'critical mass' of salt,
although I can't say if it's as bad as Chicago.
On Dec 10, 9:57 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
Almost as bad, Chicago likes to achieve critical mass with the road
salt. I have to spend 20 minutes cleaning the
i photographed my Roadeo this morning with its adjusted fit and the JB
Greens and my old Brooks Finesse saddle.
if you want to see it, it's here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16848...@n03/
Kps
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The Roadeo, the Super Tourer, the Competition, all my size, and perfectly
kitted.
Philip
Modding the big ring is another good call. I recall some poster on
the list griping about how cyclists don't spend enough time building
and modding their own parts. Oh, yeah, that was me. Now, if only I
could angle to get myself a new bandsaw.
Wife: what are you doing in the garage?
I can remember about 12 or so years ago sitting in my living room on a
cold and icy night in the winter in Missoula. I saw bike whiz by the
busy street outside--no lights, no reflective gear, no helmet. Plenty
of ice and snow on the street. I thought and then said to my wife:
there's Darwin at
I have great admiration for all of you who can ride in those kinds of
conditions. But, I do feel that safety has to always be an over riding
consideration.
best,
JimP
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:13:26 -0800
Subject: [RBW] Re: Brave, Foolish, or maybe necessary?
From:
I'll bet most here would agree there is no 'one best' and its a
personal choice. All will work, but one will feel best.
I found it interesting a few weeks ago to look at the 'staff bikes'
page at RBW. I think only one bike had the M-bars. The bikes were
mostly split between Albatross and some
Anybody have one they are looking to part with?
Thanks,
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jon,
thank you so much for liking my bikes! the Super Tourer on my Flickr
page is actually a 23-1/2 (59.69cm), so were it not
for the fact the TT length is STILL the same as on my Competition (22
or 55.88cm), it would probably be too big for me.
i don't have a photograph of it, but i also have
In Lovely Bicycle's review of her 52 Sam she had Grand Bois Hetre
tires with fenders:
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/11/born-for-hills-review-of-rivendell-sam.html
BTW my 52 Sam is officially in the mail.
Norman
On Dec 9, 1:45 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Some speculation
looking for a lage with a 3 button collar already ahve the full button
in an XL thanks
On Dec 9, 10:04 am, dean899 monte.di...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry forgot to add i am looking for a large or XL. I can't remember
it these ran large or true to size.
Also looking for the old wigwam wool beanie
Hi Doug,
I live here in SLO. Where will you be riding?
Edna Valley is gorgeous right now with the vineyards in fall color.
See Canyon and and the back roads to Morro Bay are also stellar.
Have fun,
George
doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net Dec 09 10:31AM -0800 ^
Sorry I gotta miss this
Why not go simple use battery powered Christmas lights?
Cool Tools has a review-
http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/004796.php
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On Dec 9, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Allan in Portland
Wow, KPS, way to twist the knife! But seriously, I¹d love to see photos of
your other bikes sometime. I¹m glad mostly to hear that you ride them.
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From: kps
Thanks for posting the pics, its my setup almost to the mm. Very
helpful
On Dec 10, 10:20 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote:
Wow, KPS, way to twist the knife! But seriously, I¹d love to see photos of
your other bikes sometime. I¹m glad mostly to hear that you ride them.
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Yeah... I noticed the same when I was opening my mind to the Albatross
bars on the Atlantis. It's been there all along, I just didn't want to see
it. We'll see how they feel.
René
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That's ok, I say Tom Sawyer is about some kid who ran away from home
to go to a Space Invaders tournament.
On Dec 10, 7:10 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:04 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Geddy knows what he's talking about!
For the longest
They look pretty interesting. The ramp seems to be completely level -
outdoing even the Noodle. The drops are also level, which I think will
look nicer but be slightly less comfortable than an angled drop.
Me too, a review would be fab!
On 10 Dec, 18:18, Travis travisbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote:
They look pretty interesting. The ramp seems to be completely level -
outdoing even the Noodle. The drops are also level, which I think will
look nicer but be slightly less comfortable than an angled
I am a recent subscriber of Bicycle Quarterly. I had thought about
subscribing for a while, and two things about the newest issue made me
pull the trigger. One was the write up about the Bilenky 650B tandem
(dude, I want one). The other was the article about shimmy. I know
Jan Heine has a
How flexible are cork grips? Reason I ask is because I'd like to
put them on a pair of cow horn bars I have on my Surly 1x1 (like the
ones in this photo http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/surly1x1.html ),
but I'm not sure they can make it around the bends without cracking.
If they can't make it
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote:
How flexible are cork grips? Reason I ask is because I'd like to
put them on a pair of cow horn bars I have on my Surly 1x1 (like the
ones in this photo http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/surly1x1.html ),
but I'm not sure
happy to be of help! it too me a bit to get my fit dialed in. i kept
trying to push
my saddle BACK, but i really needed to raise it and move it forward a
bit (and drop the bars).
kps
On Dec 10, 10:34 am, Kentileguy ken_y...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Thanks for posting the pics, its my setup almost
LARGER SPLATS are back in stock!!
Buy! Buy! Buy!
On Dec 3, 7:55 pm, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote:
Aargh, my size is backordered!
On Dec 3, 2:05 pm, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex, couldn't agree more about the MUSA rain pants. My first
impression of them is very favorable.
William,
I am sorry you are disappointed with our article on shimmy. We tried
to offer summary of the factors that appear to cause or exacerbate
shimmy. After all, we know that some bikes rarely shimmy (heavy tubes,
long trail, no load, skinny tires). It appears that shimmy is a multi-
faceted
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:03 -0800, William wrote:
I expected
by now somebody would have started a thread about the shimmy article,
but it is towards the back.
And let's not forget, much of the country has yet to receive the Winter
2010 BQ issue. So please, wait on the discussion until we
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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:03 -0800, William wrote:
I expected
by now somebody would have started a thread about the shimmy article,
but it is towards the back.
And let's not forget, much of the country has yet to receive
Send this part off to Eben Weiss. He can always use good material..
From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
The Cliff-notes synopsis is: I don't know what causes shimmy, nor does
anyone else. Here's what several oldschool guys said about shimmy.
They were wrong.
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:29 -0800, Jan Heine wrote:
I am beginning to believe that all bikes have a tendency to shimmy,
and depending on a number of factors, the oscillations either are
dampened or self-reinforce.
Which is exactly what Jobst Brandt says in the rec.bicycles.tech FAQ.
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Interesting you bring this up. I have commuted to work by bike Monday
through Thursday in the dark and wet, I work hard to be visible
(ligths fore and aft, yellow reflective rain slicker, helmet light
etc..) and am astounded by the number of cyclist who ride after dark
with little or no lighting
OK, hoping not to spoil for folks who haven't seen the article yet- I
thought it was a decent survey of plausible causes for shimmy.It
didn't reveal a catch-all cure for the problem, but that's probably b/
c none could possibly exist, since there are so many possible causes,
some of them
Jan
I'm extremely flattered at your almost instant reply. I don't know if
that means you regularly read the list or if somebody you know does.
I admire your work deeply and endorse your publication
enthusiastically. Every copy of BQ I've seen has had something
astonishing for me. This issue
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 11:04 -0800, newenglandbike wrote:
OK, hoping not to spoil for folks who haven't seen the article yet- I
thought it was a decent survey of plausible causes for shimmy.It
didn't reveal a catch-all cure for the problem, but that's probably b/
c none could possibly
BTW, there's the Bicycle Quarterly Reader's Review list,
http://groups.google.com/group/bqrr , that was created as a venue for
precisely these types of discussions.
Not saying you can't discuss the mag anywhere you please, just saying
we'd really appreciate the discussion there. :-)
Carry on,
Shimmy appears to be one of many properties of bicycles that is not
well understood. The math involved to describe what bikes do is very
complicated- even just turning a corner is hard to describe
mathematically because the bike describes arc in two different
planes- and fortunately we
Allan, thanks for that suggestion.
On Dec 10, 11:10 am, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:
BTW, there's the Bicycle Quarterly Reader's Review
list,http://groups.google.com/group/bqrr, that was created as a venue for
precisely these types of discussions.
Not saying you can't
Also, don't forget to light yourself up like a christmas tree when you
walk your dog, so the guy in the 3000 lb. 50mph deth machine, on his
way to buys scratch-tickets at 7-11, can see you.
Sorry, I can't help myself.
I'm all for riding with lights and reflective gear, and do it myself,
but take
The shimmy article was OK. In general, I'm not a fan of every BQ
article I read, but BQ is the only publication I read cover to cover
every time.
FWIW the two fender articles alone make buying a copy worthwhile.
On Dec 10, 2:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Jan
I'm extremely
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 11:20 -0800, newenglandbike wrote:
I'm all for riding with lights and reflective gear, and do it myself,
but take umbrage to the blame-the-victim attitude that puts the
responsibility for not getting hit by a car on all on the cyclist.
What about pedestrians, should they
Drivers.. they're you and me.
They're not me... i don't drive. nor do many others. Most who don't,
can't afford to own a car. That's the real world.
On Dec 10, 2:36 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 11:20 -0800, newenglandbike wrote:
I'm all for riding
Funny, Bill, that you say your Hillborne shimmied. The one I had (now
sold) was the most stable bike I've ever ridden with no hands in my
life. I could have had a 3 course dinner while riding and not even
think about touching the bars. I had the standard Riv supplied Tange
headset and even with
Yes.
newenglandbike wrote:
What about pedestrians, should they be all ablaze too?
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I live in northern Vt, one ride below the 45th parallel.
Point of order, point of order! The Cascadia contingent would like to
clarify that the only states intersecting the 45th parallel east of
the Great Lakes are New Hampshire and Maine.
Carry on, :-)
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Allan, thanks for that suggestion.
Sure. And to clarify, since your a new sub and may not realize, it's
the _Reader's_ list. Jan is also on the list and probably monitors it,
much as he does here and elsewhere, but it is of the Reader's. There
is no party line and polite criticism, is certainly
Mike
This is part of the voodoo feel to the whole thing. You can find an
article that says knobbies damp out shimmy. You can find another that
says knobbies supply the excitation force for shimmy. You can find
another article that states that wide tires like knobbies are
typically more
Ray, you didn't answer the second part of the question:
What about people who can't afford to keep CatEye in business?
... And let's not forget wildlife.I assume deer, moose and racoon
should be responsible for acquiring and using their own battery-
powered hi-viz gear.I guess for pets,
It's a shared responsibility, period... AND a matter of common sense.
We debate this topic ad nauseum within the cycling community in my
home state of NJ, in terms of who has what rights, and who has
accountability... Although I'd much rather be cycling than driving, I
spend far more time as a
yup I confirm it would not make the bend, the Portuguese cork grips
would be pretty cool to cut back into rings and re-glue.
On Dec 10, 10:11 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:09 PM, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote:
How flexible are cork grips? Reason I
The biggest sacrifice from the big BobbyB will be if he forgoes pint
number 11 in the interest of keeping his head about him. We'll see if
he can take his convictions that far
On Dec 10, 12:38 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
wrote:
It's a shared responsibility, period... AND
I did Keven-Mowen-inspired-seven-layer-dip-of-grips
1. Layer of cork tape
2. Layer of cork tape
3. Layer of cloth
4. Layer of cloth
5. Twine on the ends
6. Shellac
7. More shellac
By now i've done a couple more coats of shellac.
On Dec 10, 12:59 pm, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote:
yup I
With some exceptions (like life-threatening high-speed wobs, no
thanks)... maybe it's time we just embrace the shimmy... it could just
be our bikes telling us:
Slow the F down...
Put your damn hands back on the bars
Get a trailer if you wanna haul sh**
Turn off that awful music on your iPod, it's
You give me WAY too much credit, friend... I'm a cheap date. 2 pints
is my max... 3 and I'm singing old Bread tunes on the Karaoke
machine. But either way, I ALWAYS ride in control, thank you.
Peace,
BB
On Dec 10, 4:13 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
The biggest sacrifice from the big
actually the parallel is right at the border, about 30 miles from my
home.
On Dec 10, 3:04 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:
I live in northern Vt, one ride below the 45th parallel.
Point of order, point of order! The Cascadia contingent would like to
clarify that the only
BB
You took the words right out of my mouth- shared responsibility.
NEBike I do not absolve Motorist of blame, people (myself included) do
need to slow down when its dark put down the cell phone and pay
attention. But IMHO riding a bike in the dark with no lights and dark
clothing greatly
I would suggest adjusting / slash tightening the headset, before I
bought a new one.
My Ebisu All Purpose frame had a very slight front end shimmy as soon
as I put it together. After two years of riding, I became aware that
the shimmy was very gradually getting worse. One day I checked the
Nice rant. Now back in the real world, if you are virtually invisible
in the dark you certainly have yourself to blame if someone fails to see
you and runs into you. Responsibility is shared, and if you're wearing
nighttime camouflage -- dark clothing, no lighting, no reflectors, dark
3 and I'm singing old Bread tunes on the Karaoke
machine.
For all our sakes we definitely hope you stick with 2!
On Dec 10, 3:24 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
wrote:
You give me WAY too much credit, friend... I'm a cheap date. 2 pints
is my max... 3 and I'm singing old
At last, a voice of reason!
In a message dated 12/10/2010 4:21:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
montclairbob...@gmail.com writes:
With some exceptions (like life-threatening high-speed wobs, no
thanks)... maybe it's time we just embrace the shimmy... it could just
be our bikes telling us:
wish I had my BQ already.
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:11 PM, bpus...@aol.com wrote:
At last, a voice of reason!
In a message dated 12/10/2010 4:21:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
montclairbob...@gmail.com writes:
With some exceptions (like life-threatening high-speed wobs, no
thanks)...
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/back-off-triangle/31-460
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Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 12:15:36 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Brave, Foolish, or maybe necessary?
10:1 he lurks here...
On Dec 10, 10:38 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
Send this part off to Eben Weiss. He can always use good material..
From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
The Cliff-notes synopsis is: I don't know what causes shimmy, nor does
actually the parallel is right at the border, about 30 miles from my
home.
My bad. For some reason when I read that the first time it registered
as Vi, as in Virginia.
Yeah, I should be wearing glasses.
-Allan
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Furthermore, the Empire State of New York peeks above the 45th
Parallel for a few km as it follows the contour of the St Lawrence.
Not that we're getting nitpicky or anything.
On Dec 10, 4:39 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:
actually the parallel is right at the border, about
just saying that the new issue of BQ is the best yet. And that Bilenky
tandem to die for.
I find the older I get the more of a bike geek I've become. Very
scary.
~Mike~
On Dec 10, 3:12 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com
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10:1 he lurks here...
On Dec 10, 10:38 am,
Along with a nice set of lights/reflectors/bright clothing etc...the
'ol Back-Off-Triangle provides a little added peace of mind for me.
I'm able to get out of work just in time to avoid dark, dark
conditions but lights are a must have.
On a positive note, the shortest day of the year is coming
Whooee, take off for bike ride look what I missed! I'll read the
entire thread but for the moment here's some Riv content to chew on:
The Atlantis is arguably one of the most stable bikes made. With my
normal collection of rackage and a moderate sized front bag that'll
hold a few pounds, it's
Yeah, if I ever get a new tandem, it will probably be a Bilenky similar to
that. For the moment I'm still thinking a Co-Mo Periscope though.
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
just saying that the new issue of BQ is the best yet. And that Bilenky
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:16, cyclotour...@gmail.com
cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Looking for a last minute stocking stuffer idea: Hop on your bike and
go for a ride with us Saturday morning! Best mixed terrain ride in
SoCal!
Meeting in Santa Monica @ Peets on Montana 14th. Ride is
I worked in a multi line motorcycle shop from '85 - '95, and have been happily
riding motorcycles and bicycles for many, many years. Not surprisingly,
motorcycles experience a similar phenomenon Because of the greater vehicle
mass and higher speeds, a simple wobble or shimmy can quickly
Jan
Again, I appreciate your thoughts, and your massive contributions.
I'll post findings once I have findings to post.
Have a great weekend
On Dec 10, 5:42 pm, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:07 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
With all due respect, this
on 12/10/10 10:03 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Since I'm growing convinced that there might not be anyone who really
understands shimmy, I'm going to run some experiments of my own on my
Hillborne to attempt to understand it more. Since that bike, in it's
current state, shimmies
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