Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-04 Thread Patrick Moore
The way to start is to wheel your bike into the store with an air of owning the place. If someone questions you, you must assume an air of injured and very superior dignity. Note: if you get away with it for a year or so, then, when someone questions you, you can say, "Well! I've been wheeling it

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2018-11-04 Thread nick b
My double top tube 58 Appaloosa with with the "big" front and rear racks, medium saddlesack (which I store the large shopsack in), big basket, generator hub and lights, a couple tubes, patches, pump, etc weighs 42.4lbs. It's so heavy I have stopped caring. Friday night I carried 2 helinox

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
Oh...A DahonNever mindI see your point. You have me wondering how my local Safeway would take to me using my Atlantis as a grocery cartSure would be simpler. No locking up the bike, getting a cart, forgetting my reusable bags, wiping off the slimy cart handle with handi wipes that

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
It was whatever Rivendell installed when they built it; probably a Pletscher. It gets pretty windy here in Iowa, and I've learned to lay my bikes on the ground instead of using kickstands or leaning them against objects. Our Powderkeg sounds like scaffolding falling over when a big gust of

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
Toshi pointed out that I’ve got a fast Leo Roadini. It’s true that I do. I posted my best time ever for a 200k today on my Leo Roadini. I like my Leo very much. I’ll post a separate ride report. Bike reviews and ride reports tell you more about the person than they do about the bike. OMO Bill

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Moore
I entirely agree; the best stand for heavy rear loads, even rather assymetrical ones, was a $18 Greenfield dropout mount one. Problem is, this is a Dahon folder, and if you clutter up the left rear dropout area with one of those stands, it interferes with folding. I think I will remove the

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
My bike falling over is extremely annoying, especially when something gets broken or scratched. I cannot begin to gush how much better a rear triangle mounted, Greenfield kickstand works, versus a chain stay mount. I just cannotI will not use a chain stay mount. I’d rather go without. Now

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I'm trying to distinguish frame flex from faster riding. For me, I'm not sure that a Roadeo and Roadini built to the same weight would ride any faster. Of course, I feel a dramatic difference when I go from my 35 lb racked and bagged up Hilsen to my 22 lb Roadeo, but I doubt that much of that is

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Moore
26.5 lb is not bad at all for such a build. My custom 26" wheel fixie, with dynamo lighting, fenders, racks, is probably 1 1/2 lb lighter, and that's with a Dingle fixed drivetrain in place of a 3X9. * I removed the kickstand because I was tired of the bike falling over all of the time.* Now

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Moore
As an extension of this thread, a related question: what is our list's lightest Rivendell? Be sure to describe build (fixed, 1XN, 3XN) and size (48 or 64). My 1999 Joe Starck gofast fixie custom, 26" wheels, weighs 18.1 lb with all bolt-on parts but no strap on or slip in parts, a disappointing

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2018-11-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I think Boulder Bikes won’t recommend 6/4/6 skinny tubes over certain rider weight either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2018-11-03 Thread Paul G
Interesting discussion as usual. I eeigh163 lbs and I sometimes wonder if my 61cm Roadeo is more stout than ideal. That sounds silly given that it's Riv's lightest bike, but it has to be able to withstand 250 lbs of rider weight. In the custom frame section of the Riv website, there's an

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2018-11-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I am 147lbs and 5'8" For me a noticeable diff between Bleriot/Sam, then a step up in ease of pedalling to Ram, then a dramatic step up to Roadeo. I can also confirm the diffs in mph and cog diffs in familiar terrain. Higher toothcounts front and back on Roadeo and getting up hills easier than

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Got it; the 57 is what I'd want; at least, I think so: are the sizes listed measured center to center? If c-t, the 57 would be a 56 c-c and slightly too small, though with the sloping tt I could probably get it to fit. I do want a 56 to 57 cm top tube; 58.2 is too long, or at least so far less

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I'm no lightweight at ~150, but none of the Rivs I've owned have flexed for me except the A Homer Hilsen loaded with about 30 lbs of groceries (54 cm frame). This includes the Roadeo/Ram/AHH/Cheviot/Custom. Toshi On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:43 AM Lum Gim Fong wrote: > Probly but i think Its not

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Probly but i think Its not the weight. Its the flex. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Jonathan D.
Woudn’t the weight difference between a Roadini and Roadeo frame built the same be about 1-2 lbs? I would assume it is not just the weight but the flex of the frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-03 Thread Paul G
58 cm happens to be between the two Roadeo sizes where the tubing gauge changes. The 57 and below use the lighter gauge and 59+ are stouter, more like a Ram and Hilsen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-11-02 Thread Patrick Moore
I'd guess that the principal reasons for the difference are cost and a more general all-rounder use for the Roadini; the Roadeo is a high-end road bike aimed at the club rider as an alternative to good if not top quality carbon fiber frames -- heck, as an alternative to 15K carbon fiber frames, if

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2018-11-02 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Grant will gladly discuss these issues with you, based on my experience asking him about TAIHomer vs. Roadini vs. MUSARoadeo. I was researching this all in depth for my latest purchase. I wanted the lightest tubing set they make because I knew the usual Riv 8/5/8 frames fight against me on

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2018-11-02 Thread Ash
Hey Lum, Appreciate you staying with me on these questions. The next one being my 3rd Riv, I want to think it through a little more before pulling the trigger. Hence all these questions. The big question in my head is, with its specific deliberate design, how heaver is Roadini as compared

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2018-10-31 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Roadini specs from RBW: Roadini: “0.9 x 0.7 TT and the length is cut from the butt (0.9) end. So you get the 0.9 up at the front, where top tubes buckle. The 0.7 is on the thick side for a belly (though it's the same as old Columbus SP, which was 1.0 x 0.7 x 1.0--as a historical reference).

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2018-10-31 Thread Daniel D.
1. Roadini 2. 50CM 3. 25.2, 25.4 lbs,sometimes the scale says 25.2 sometimes 25.4 4. Build List Rivendell S!lver 170mm wide/low crankset Ultegra CX70 front derailleur M952 xt rear derailleur KMC 9 Speed Chain XT M770 9 Speed 11-34 MTB Cassette Microshift 2/3-9 speed bar end

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2018-10-31 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Roadini tubing way thicker walled than Roadeo. Below 59cm sizes Roadeos are 6/4/6 DT/TT. 8/5/8 59 and up. Rooadini is much thicker. I have an email with tubing specs from grant about it. I was researching lightest built frame to get. I posted it in another thread too. Have to dig out the email

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2018-10-31 Thread Kalmia Vt
My Appaloosa (55cm) with fenders, front Mark's Rack and rear pannier rack, three water bottle cages and two semi-full bottles, frame pump, bell, and mirror, B-17 saddle, Gilles Berthoud front bag (with snacks, spare jersey, spare tube, tire levers, spare rechargeable light,and Crank-Brothers

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2018-10-30 Thread Ash
Got it, Lum. You have perhaps done some research in this area. Do you happen to know frame + fork weight delta between Roadini and Roadeo? It may change based on the frame size. If you happen to know the difference for your size frames that'll be sufficient for me. On Tuesday, 30 October

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2018-10-30 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Oops. Sorry, to clarify, I meant that Roadini and Hilsen are NOT lightweight, thin walled, flexy tubed built frames. like the MUSARoadeo and Legolas are. So I am talking about frame tubing and performance, not components. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2018-10-30 Thread Ash
The 'build' would depend on the components I pick. But what's the weight difference just with the frame/fork? More than a pound? On Monday, 29 October 2018 18:58:53 UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Then MUSA Roadeo or MUSA Legolas. > Neither the Hilsen or Roadini are leightweight builds. --

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-29 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Then MUSA Roadeo or MUSA Legolas. Neither the Hilsen or Roadini are leightweight builds. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2018-10-29 Thread Ash
Lum, Big congrats on losing 33 pounds! Weight of both you and your bikes are heading in the same direction :) I have read a few posts from you making a case for a lighter Riv. Now I'm finally considering building one! Thinking whether to go with a Roadini or MIT Hilsen. Hilsen can be

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-28 Thread John Hawrylak
Lum Glad to hear they we OS. The 8-5-8 OS is same rigidity as 10-7-10 STD or like Columbus Tenax tubing. The 6-4-6 OS is like 8-6-8 STD. So a 0.1 mm wall decrease helps with the planning. Just be careful of denting on the DT, J Heine claims walls of < 0.5mm tend to dent, especially the DT.

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-28 Thread Jonathan D.
I have a Joe and test rode the MIT atlantis. The MIT Atlantis actually reminded me of the Sam hillborne with the difference being 650B. I think it is the shorter top tube. Personally I preferred the MIT Atlantis with the shorter top tube and 650B to my current Joe. The Joe will probably go up

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-28 Thread Lum Gim Fong
JohnThe 858 i rode were all rivendell os tubing Roadeo is 646 os -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-28 Thread Ash
Hi Edgar, Joe is 51cm. Atlantis feels more nimble and quicker to pick up speed. Also relatively stiffer. Joe A is more comfortable overall. It seems to absorb road impressions better than my Atlantis. Perhaps because the frame is slightly bigger. The tubing might be thinner than Atlantis

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-27 Thread Ed Fausto
Hi Ash, What size is your Appaloosa? How do you compare the ride with your MIT Atlantis? Edgar > On 27 Oct 2018, at 11:24 PM, Ash wrote: > > > Here's my Joe A. He's 34 lbs. > > >> On Saturday, 27 October 2018 08:21:59 UTC-7, Ash wrote: >> My MIT Atlantis 50cm as shown weighs 31 lbs. >> >>

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-27 Thread John Hawrylak
Lum Are the 8/5/8 frames standard diameters or OS diameters? Assuming the Roadeo is OS? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 4:31:15 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > How I select bikes now: > > After fighting 8/5/8 TT/DT bikes for years up hills, I bought a 6/4/6 >

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2018-10-25 Thread Brian Campbell
This custom from 2001 (62cm) weighs in at 22l lbs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

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2018-10-25 Thread Brian Campbell
Here is a picture. I have taken the rear rack off and am now running 35mm Compass EL tires vs. the 38mm in the pcture On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 12:55:24 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: > > My 61cm

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2018-10-25 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
I tore the bike down to the frame for a thorough cleaning and a Frame Saver treatment. I removed the kickstand because I was tired of the bike falling over all of the time. I then swapped the Sugino triple and Microshift FD for an IRD Lobo 46/30 with a Shimano CX-70 FD, and replaced the Noodle

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2018-10-25 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Don't be scared. I bet it is under 28lbs. without bags on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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2018-10-25 Thread stevef
I enjoy my Rambouillet too much to weight it. On Sunday, August 3, 2014 at 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or > frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes > weigh. > > Would be

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2018-10-25 Thread Nick Payne
My 61cm Bleriot kitted out with Hetres, mudguards, B17 saddle, Nitto rack, Carradice Camper longflap, frame pump, and two full 750ml waterbottles weighs 17kg (37.5lbs). It would have weighed rather more in this photo as I had the Carradice filled with enough gear for a short tour in the

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2018-10-24 Thread Scott G.
One of the fast guys in the used to ride a Schwinn Varsity, he did fine on it. The seat broke, he used a piece of rebar to replace it. As Ford used to claim for the Pinto, "More road hugging weight" than a Toyota. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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2018-10-24 Thread Lum Gim Fong
How I select bikes now: After fighting 8/5/8 TT/DT bikes for years up hills, I bought a 6/4/6 Roadeo. The ride is way better now. Hills way easier. I look forward to riding now, instead of fearing hills. So I have decided any bike over 6/4/6 tubing is not for me. So that is the first criteria

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2018-10-24 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Of course weight matters. When climbing. It also matters if you live in a walk up, like I do, and carry your bike up and down the stairs several times a day. I don’t like ‘stupid’ weight, where there is zero thought to weight in the design process. The basic bicycle is the greatest invention

[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2018-10-24 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I know the theory but not sure I subscribe to the RBW “weight ruse”. You have to get that bike up that hill somehow. So that weight counts. I lost thirty-three pounds of fat off my body this summer on keto diet and the hills are still tough. But 22lb Roadeo makes it way easier than 25lb Ram and

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2018-10-24 Thread PG
(This is group is sophisticated enough to understand there's a lot more going on than the objective weight of a bike. So bear with me. I know I'm preaching to the choir...) I had two interesting experiences about 10 years ago regarding bike weight...and both happened at the end of the same

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2018-10-23 Thread Lum Gim Fong
My 53 Roadeo is 22.9lbs. No fenders/racks-only dyno lights. My 54 blue Rambouillet is 25.4 lbs. berthoud fenders and dyno lights. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

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2018-02-19 Thread Bill Schairer
My Atlantis ~38 lbs ready to go out the door on an errand. More for panniers if a marketing run or some such errand. Bill On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:25:33 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: > > My Toyo Atlantis weight is 30.1 lbs., with no tools or bottles, but with a > rear Nitto rack, front

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2017-06-21 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
My Toyo Atlantis weight is 30.1 lbs., with no tools or bottles, but with a rear Nitto rack, front Nitto M-12 rack, half frame bag, top tube bag and kickstand. No fenders. Build: Sram XX1 single ring gruppo including crankset Paul V-brakes Son front hub with beefed up, 'armored' Luxo-U light

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2017-06-21 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
My Toyo Atlantis weighs 30.1 lbs, with a half frame bag, top tube bag, rear Nitto medium rack, small Nitto rack up front and a suspension seat post with a Selle Anatomica leather saddle. No tools or bottles. My son gave me a Sram XX1 single ring drive train which help shed some weight. I also

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread GAJett
樂Sounds like that's complete with motor  Cheers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

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2017-06-20 Thread Carla Waugh
Sam with Brooks and a Riv build and fenders is 31.2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

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2017-06-20 Thread Philip Kim
Joe Appaloosa 51cm Velocity Dyad 650b wheelset 32h db spokes, shutter precision front, velocity lightweight ATB rear hub, 650bx42mm paselas Schmidt edelux 2 Custom demiporteur rack from orc Nitto Tallux with HT Boscos Paul V-brake levers WI crankset 40/26, WI stainless steel bb Thomson seatpost

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2017-06-20 Thread Brian Campbell
My 61cm AHH 26.2lbs (hanging digital scale) 61cm Frame 32/32 Ultegra Hub/ Open Pro Wheel set 12-30 10 speed cassette Ultegra Long cage RD Shimano FX70 FD IRD Bar end Shifters w/ riv pods 46cm Noodle Bars 9cm Nitto Pearl stem Thomson Elite seatpost Brooks Ti b17 special Late 80's Shinano XT

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread Reed Kennedy
My 62cm Hunqapillar weighs between 33 and 36 lbs, depending on rack, wheelset, tires. Lightest configuration is like this, but with 38mm Compass Barlow Pass tires: https://goo.gl/photos/wcx2zxSLPC8kDdbC6 (Counting the rack and basket, not counting the lock, bags, tools.) Oh, here's one with the

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2017-06-20 Thread William deRosset
My Heron Touring (55cm but rides like a 57 or 58) comes in at around 28lb including front and rear racks, fenders, lights, wire-bead 35mm tires, BOB trailer mount, etc.It is a mutt, has been set up a few different ways, and lives in VT, so a build list would be approximate. Best, Will William

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread Jim M.
But I think I can get it down to 269 with a carbon fiber crank. On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:11:10 AM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: > > My Bombadil weighs about 270 pounds on the road. > > jim m > walnut creek > >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

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2017-06-20 Thread Jim M.
My Bombadil weighs about 270 pounds on the road. jim m walnut creek On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 7:59:18 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > That's pretty light for an Atlantis! > > Mine: > > The '99 Custom 57 c-c: 17.8 lb with "heavy" Dura Ace SPD pedals but no bag > -- would be 17.5 lb with

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2017-06-20 Thread Patrick Moore
That's pretty light for an Atlantis! Mine: The '99 Custom 57 c-c: 17.8 lb with "heavy" Dura Ace SPD pedals but no bag -- would be 17.5 lb with the Xpedos, so I lose a couple of average miles p h for style. Wheels: Sun M14A 559; 70 gram tubes; Elk Pass tires; Phil hubs, rear with 15/17;

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2017-06-19 Thread Stuart Lovinggood
I'll play: my stock Joe Appaloosa 55 with R14 top rack, large saddlesack (and various daily items), frame pump, mystery-brand Albatross clones and 29x2.1 Smart Sams weighs in at 36.6 pounds. On Sunday, August 3, 2014 at 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote: > > Since there has been curiosity

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2017-06-19 Thread Belopsky
Bumping this old thread: Weighed my 56cm Riv Atlantis (Toyo build, if it matters) *24.6lbs *w/ the Mavic Crossmax and RTP tires and no weight-saving parts taken into consideration. I built it up as my gravel/dirt bike. Would be nice to get it lighter but this is good enough. Might try tubeless

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2014-10-25 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I agree with Andy the Wise... It's all about bringing enough bike to the ride Perfect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2014-10-24 Thread DS
Finally got around to this: 48cm Hunqapillar w/ 2.1 smart sams, standard build kit w/ albastache bars, front nitto mini rack, and 2 water bottle cages (without water bottles): 28.4 lbs 55cm Cheviot with standard build kit, shimano dynohub, luxos b light, nitto mini front rack, pletscher rear

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2014-10-24 Thread Patrick Moore
Weight! Weight! Weight! Sounds like my (skinny and tall) 13-year-old daughter (alas). I just weighed my Fargo: just under 33 lb with at-least-3-lb saddlebag and contents; this is the off road equivalent of a 58 cm frame. All bolt on accessories, which for this one amounts to 4 nylon bottle cages

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2014-08-15 Thread shawn m.
I get the 'how much does it weigh? question a lot from guys riding Cervelos for some reason. My answer is always the same: lift with your knees... My 54cm Hunqapillar is racked and fendered and basketed with a large saddlesack, so it's in the same ballpark as the others here have mentioned,

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I remembered to weight the Fargo last night -- using a hi tek, $8 Deal Extreme digital luggage scale: T handle gauge with nylon strap. Removed the very large Jandd Mountain Wedge (big enough for a change of clothing -- pants and shirt -- if you roll tightly, this in addition to tubes, tools, and

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2014-08-15 Thread stonehog
I have two Rivs and weighed them in at normal running weight with tools/bags/pump included. The first one up is my grey/maroon Hunqapillar - 54cm = *39 lbs* Includes full racks/basket/bag for camping: 1. Tubus Cosmo rear rack 2. Haulin' Colin front rack (custom) 3. large Wald basket 4. Medium

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-15 Thread Don Compton
Patrick, For some reason, I thought you owned a Ram. On Friday, August 15, 2014 4:10:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I remembered to weight the Fargo last night -- using a hi tek, $8 Deal Extreme digital luggage scale: T handle gauge with nylon strap. Removed the very large Jandd Mountain

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2014-08-15 Thread Bertin753
Ram at Mom's! Patrick Moore iPhone On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, For some reason, I thought you owned a Ram. On Friday, August 15, 2014 4:10:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I remembered to weight the Fargo last night -- using a hi tek, $8

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2014-08-14 Thread Edwin W
Finally got around to weighing my 60cm Sam. 36 pounds Build Sugino 26/40/bashguard crank Sneaker pedals Mark's front rack Wald medium basket with bungee net and a spare irish strap Longboard fenders Brooks B17 Nitto seatpost Nitto stem (pearl?) 11cm Albas CR18 rims with 36 spokes Novatech cheapie

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2014-08-10 Thread Benedikt
35 - 40ish. Depends what I got in the bags. I love taking it on group rides. When the weight weenies see it they freak out. People LOVE that bike. - https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/9454194547/in/set-72157634961282335 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

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2014-08-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Bags, my friend. Never weigh them! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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2014-08-08 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I was pretty surprised about the commuting load weight to! But that does include a full set of work clothes, tools, rain jacket, u luck, cable and of course two canvas bags. Good thing I took out the laptop that I only occasionally have onboard of the number would have been really shocking!

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I was pretty surprised about the commuting load weight to! But that does include a full set of work clothes, tools, rain jacket, u luck, cable and of course two canvas bags. Good thing I took out the laptop that I only occasionally have onboard of the number would have been really shocking!

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2014-08-08 Thread AD
I have a 20.5 lbs SimpleOne with magnesium bottom bracket, Brooks titanium, Paul levers and cantis, JB greens, Phil 36h (can probably drop some weight with 32 WI), cut Nitto seatpost. Minimizing the weight was just for kicks as the bike is regulated to family rides on the Iron Horse trail.

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Philip Williamson
Oh! I've been lapped in the singlespeed weight-weenie race! Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:34:29 PM UTC-7, AD wrote: I have a 20.5 lbs SimpleOne with magnesium bottom bracket, Brooks titanium, Paul levers and cantis, JB greens, Phil 36h (can probably drop some

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2014-08-08 Thread lungimsam
...still waiting for Jan Heine and Grant Petersen company to chime in on this...c'mon now y'all...join in on the fun... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

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2014-08-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
Don't hold your breath. Jan doesn't ride a Rivendell (even though he still owns one), and Jan knows that bike weight doesn't matter anywhere near as much as people think. Grant also knows that handwringing over bike weight is a pointless exercise. He doesn't know what his bike(s) weigh,

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-08 Thread Chris Chen
do you want me to weigh it with or without the two racks of ribs? or the melon? On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Don't hold your breath. Jan doesn't ride a Rivendell (even though he still owns one), and Jan knows that bike weight doesn't matter anywhere

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2014-08-08 Thread Cecily Walker
I think Kelly wins for the heaviest bike. On Thursday, August 7, 2014 8:54:18 AM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: My Bombadil while touring... 110 lbs. https://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9018162182/in/set-72157633975989097 Kelly On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: Since

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2014-08-08 Thread ted
Since I'm not doing anything with a point this evening anyway Ridable bikes on hand minus anything not bolted or zip tied on: ~53cm Gios road race bike, ~19.5 lbs (circa '80 weight weeny-ish steel w/ mostly current parts for ref) mostly campi 10sp ergo, cane creek weight weeny brakes,

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Jason Leach
I'll chime in: 54cm Quickbeam 170mm cranks 42t with a chainguard Albatross Suzue Free/Free wheelset B17 Mini Front/ wald/ shopsack Big Back Rack/ canvas panniers Planet Bike fenders 700x32mm Wire Bead Paselas bungee chords, two tubes, a few tools 28lbs Jason SF,CA On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:54

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Tom Harrop
Bill, your complete camping set up weighs significantly less than my unladen, unsackvilled Bomba. Good effort, but is it admissible without the booze...? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Admissable? Yes. Is it usable or practical without the booze? No On Thursday, August 7, 2014 2:07:58 AM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote: Bill, your complete camping set up weighs significantly less than my unladen, unsackvilled Bomba. Good effort, but is it admissible without the booze...? --

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2014-08-07 Thread Kelly
My Bombadil while touring... 110 lbs. https://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9018162182/in/set-72157633975989097 Kelly On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or frames' weights, I figured it would be

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Philip Williamson
So I have the lightest Quickbeam so far? Woot! Cryptoweightweenie, Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:17:54 AM UTC-7, Jason Leach wrote: I'll chime in: 54cm Quickbeam 170mm cranks 42t with a chainguard Albatross Suzue Free/Free wheelset B17 Mini Front/ wald/

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Five pounds lighter than my Q Phillip. You're killing me here! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Dave @ Riv
That guy on the HILSEN was our very own riv Jared! Flyin. On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:26:12 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote: On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:39:54 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, dyno lights, cages. The

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Tony DeFilippo
1. Saluki 2. 60cm 3. 28 lbs, 42 lbs at full commuting load 1. XO-3 (1993, 26), single speed 2. 59cm 3. 27 lbs. I would have figured the XO to be a couple lbs lighter but I have some junky Kenda 1.95 tires and a B67 saddle that probably account for a pound or two of weight delta just there. I

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2014-08-06 Thread John Stowe
58cm Sam Hillborne: 41 lb including pump and tool bag which are always on the bike; normally I ride with 5.9 lb. of locks and some water as well, so call it 48 lb. Then add my laptop bag with everyday carrying-around stuff, so call it 55 lb. for a regular commute. Then stuff the same bag with

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Chris Chen
You mean 27+++ lb of co-pilot, right? :) On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:45 AM, John Stowe stowe.j...@gmail.com wrote: 58cm Sam Hillborne: 41 lb including pump and tool bag which are always on the bike; normally I ride with 5.9 lb. of locks and some water as well, so call it 48 lb. Then add my

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Interesting exercise. I weighed mine w bags, pumps, repair/patch kits, lights, but with no water bottles, in other words as they would be ridden: 1) Riv Road Custom, 61.5cm, standard build w brifters, Carradice saddlebag, 28mm tires, 26 lbs. 2) Quickbeam, 60cm, with Nitto M12 front rack w Wald

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2014-08-06 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
When I had my frame powder coated, I called Riv up for frame decals, but the only ones they could provide are the fragile decals that need a clear coat, which I didn't want to do. I found an online company that makes custom frame decals that you can design yourself. I have forgotten the name

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2014-08-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
Clayton, thanks for that info. Yeah, I've heard of that decal company, and similarly don't recall its name. Yours definitely are a different font than the regular Atlantis font. They look good though. On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:14:26 PM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: When I had my frame

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Patrick Moore
IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, dyno lights, cages. The gofast is 17 3/4 lb. The Fargo IIRC is ~30 lb: it may be 28 or it may be 31, I forget. Again, all ready to ride with all bolt on parts except fenders but no bags or bottles. And my bars are 3 cm below

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2014-08-06 Thread lungimsam
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2014-08-06 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
weighed my simpleone with a bathroom scale, came to just about 30 lbs. with tubus vega + medium saddlesack, mini front rack + medium wald basket. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Brewster Fong
On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:39:54 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, dyno lights, cages. The gofast is 17 3/4 lb. The Fargo IIRC is ~30 lb: it may be 28 or it may be 31, I forget. Again, all ready to ride with all bolt on

Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
Ha, you guys are a bunch of weight weenies! :) There are no weenier weight weenies than the Camping weight weenies, so I set up a minimalist S24O kit. I took my 27 lb double speed (with HA Panniers) and added: Hammock + sleeping bag + VBL + stuffable pillow stove + pot + utensils +

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