Thought I'd add this interesting article I came across about a frame and
rack builder from the 80's I found it interesting I hope you do as well.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R8YNkO-6rgw/UXouKxvs9mI/ACM/FlAI1dlH6a0/s1600/mertz1.jpg
Thanks for posting that, Hugh. Nice read. Now I'm gonna google for more
pics.
On Friday, April 26, 2013 3:36:16 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
Thought I'd add this interesting article I came across about a frame and
rack builder from the 80's I found it interesting I hope you do as well.
Hi Shoji,
I found it on the Classic Rendezvous lightweight vintage bicycles
group. I think he posted one of his original bikes there recently.
Best,
Hugh
Hugh
Sunland, Ca
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Shoji Takahashi
shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for posting that, Hugh. Nice
Nice article! Thanks for posting it.
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Shoji,
I found it on the Classic Rendezvous lightweight vintage bicycles
group. I think he posted one of his original bikes there recently.
Best,
Hugh
Hugh
Sunland, Ca
There is always only one answer to I bent it and it broke: Don't do
that.
On Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:19:35 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
A wise man once said I can take a crap in a box and mark it guaranteed,
but at then end of the day all you have is a guaranteed piece of crap
On Sun, Apr
And the corollary to that will be It doesn't work.
On Monday, April 22, 2013 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
There is always only one answer to I bent it and it broke: Don't do
that.
On Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:19:35 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
A wise man once said I can take a crap in
Wow when I decide to create this post I had no idea! I want to thank all
who have contributed and thank you for sharing all of your experiences with
the Tubus, Nitto, Axiom and other racks. Still haven't had a chance to
mount my new racks, but will soon enough. What I have learned so far is
Axioms are cheap, in part, because of country of origin, yes, but also because
they're made and imported by the zillions. I get the impression that Nitto
makes racks in batches of tens, or a couple hundred, at most. And then you're
paying tons extra for a lopsided currency exchange that has
I am not an engineer (nor am I all that good at searching discussion
forums) but the guy who posts in the Velocipedesalon as blasdelf and makes
custom racks under the Haulin Colin
name: http://www.haulincolin.com/porteur.html wrote a very good discourse
on why Tubus makes the best production
About to hit the road right now and just realized I need to provide one detail
to keep my posts in context - except for the Bruce Gordon that had his racks,
my touring bikes have 126 spacing. Nitto width may make more sense on a 135 or
tandem.
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Another data point. I did a long tour with Tubus Cosmo/Nova racks and
Ortlieb panniers(Bikepacker Plus/Sportpacker Plus), and I had no problems.
After I got home, I was riding my bike with the racks still on it, and I
took a shortcut up on the sidewalk, As I was rounding a sharp corner I
not that I know either of them but ... for your info blasdelf and
Haulincolin are not the same person. He does own one of Colin's racks
though.
~mike
On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:26:57 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
I am not an engineer (nor am I all that good at searching discussion
forums)
With fully loaded touring the weight difference is insignificant. The wider
Nitto has advantages when mounting bags or strapping other supplies on the rear
rack between panniers. Nitto is also easier to mount Arkel at least panniers
on.
The Tubus protects the rear light better, allows for
Don't put too much faith in warranties. A limited warranty is written to
protect the issuer (company, dealer, etc) by limiting liability to certain
specific situations or issues. It is NOT intended to protect the customer
or consumer of the product, but rather to limit the extent of claims.
A wise man once said I can take a crap in a box and mark it guaranteed,
but at then end of the day all you have is a guaranteed piece of crap
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:52 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Don't put too much faith in warranties. A limited warranty is written
to protect the
On Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:20:20 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
point (or get through spam filters). I have a hunch that a phone call to
Ortlieb/Tubus USA would have the desired result. I talk to those people all
the time. They're really helpful.
I've also had less than
MHO the tubus racks don't seem as quality built as the Nitto racks but the
price was within my range and I liked the idea of a rear light mount on the
Cosmo.
The finish on Tubus racks is not as lustrous as on Nitto. Tubus are
otherwise the superior product. They fit better, are lighter per
How do we know this to be true? I'm not being snarky, I want to know, as
one who loves Tubuses and has used many but who would seriously consider
Nittos for a pretty bike if he had the money and found the right design.
BTW: I read both that Tubus offers a 10 year warranty and that Tubus offers
a
I've had and used both. Obviously it is my opinion, although I would point
out an opinion shared by others in the on line and bike shop world.
Neither my Tubus nor Nitto have broken on me. I wound up giving the Nitto
away as despite its better looks, I preferred the more useful design of
funny, my opinion is the exact opposite of yours Matthew. The Nitto racks
are stronger (but heavier) and the welding/finish is much cleaner from my
two samples of Tubus racks. For me though, I like the perfect fit of
custom built racks and find the expense worth it. But both Nitto and Tubus
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:
I've had and used both. Obviously it is my opinion, although I would
point out an opinion shared by others in the on line and bike shop world.
You are saying that you and others -- I assume more than one or two -- in
the
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
The Nitto racks are stronger
Again and again, I am not trying to be annoying. Can you give the
particulars of the evidence that show that Nitto racks are stronger than
Tubus racks?
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My statement was my subjective assessment strictly based on my personal use
of both manufacturers racks. I've manipulated Nitto racks a number of times
to get the final fit perfect. No signs of damage or visible strain. I
tried that on a Tubus Vega and it broke adjacent to a weld. In hand, the
Both are good. Both will hold up to normal use indefinitely.
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I'll add a data point here, being an owner of Tubus, Nitto, Velo-Orange and
Racktime (Tubus' low-end) racks.
I have a broken Tubus Fly. It's a black chrome-moly version and it broke at
the weld. Yes, I was trying to bend it to fit it to a wider dropout but
still, it wasn't a tandem 145mm. It
In use, the Tubus racks are amazingly well designed, particularly if you
use them with Ortlieb panniers.
On Friday, April 19, 2013 3:17:34 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
Howdy Riv folk,
I just purchased two Tubus racks for an upcoming tour in June. Thought I'd
post a few pictures of them as
Interesting: I have always used the black powdercoated chomoly versions:
these are fillet brazed, with brazing that looks much neater than the
blobby welds on the stainless steel ones.
Agree with Jim: Tubus + Ortlieb = great value:dollar ratio. I have Packer
Pluses and Packer Sports.
FWIW, and
+1. Love them.
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On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 14:42 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Interesting: I have always used the black powdercoated chomoly
versions: these are fillet brazed, with brazing that looks much neater
than the blobby welds on the stainless steel ones.
The silver powdercoated ones are even nicer. Shame
I ordered from Tubus USA last week. They gave me an option for silver in the
Logo model. That distributor orders from Germany frequently, so it seems any
Tubus product should be available in the US.
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Hugh:
You can't go wrong with Tubus, Nitto or Axiom. I've seen all of them on
tours touring nerds love to talk about racks and panniers. Jim (from St
Paul, was on the Sulphur Mtn ride) has a Cosmo on his Atlantis likes it a
lot. You can't have too many places to hook bungees when you are
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