Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-11-01 Thread Ryan Frahm
I’m really curious what the frameset will end up priced at. And when those Ortho bars will be back! Haha. It they were a 25.4 instead of 26 bar clamp would make them seemingly perfect. Having to buy them and a new FacePlater means I’ll likely have Doom bend me something similar when they start

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-31 Thread Hoch in ut
Thanks for the photo and details. I don’t think stack will be an issue. It’s obvious made for swept back riser bars (ie Ortho, Bosco, Albatross, etc). Handlebars look about level with the saddle in the picture. I personally have my Romanceur set up with about 1” drop (with Albatross). . I’m

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
And thank you Dave for tracking that down! It looks like a lot of fun for certain rides. I Think Keith is right about the steel blades. On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 1:52:54 PM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote: > [image: 10502AD6-F020-4485-8CA5-11800239A776.jpeg] > > This is what my rear clearance

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-31 Thread iamkeith
Actually, it looks to me like steel blades in an aluminum crown - not unlike the bontrager composite forks that were popular upgrades in the early 90s. I kind of dig it. To each his own but I also really like the dropouts. Reminds me of sturdy bmx forks - as well as early klunker upgrade

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
Unfortunately there are no details yet, just teasers. Supposed to be something like the purple M2 specialized he’s been riding but with 27.5 up to 2.6” tire and some tweaks he thinks will make it better. My favorite rides are mountain goating around and having to carry through sections.

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-31 Thread Hoch in ut
I haven’t heard of the Ronnie aluminum ATB. Any details you can post? A link? On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 6:26:46 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > The only conclusion I can come up with is N+1. I thought, maybe I’ll just > sell my Susie, I absolutely love my Clem H. Had to take the Clem

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-31 Thread Brian Turner
I am also running Motolites on my Gus (54cm) and have a full 1cm of clearance from the brake cable on the front, and 7mm on the rear. 27.5x2.5 Ehlines. With that tight of a tolerance, I’d probably need to consult with someone who has real experience with a particular tire / same brake setup before

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
Great looking Gus! The XR2 is a great tire. They were sold out everywhere when I picked up the Ehline or I’d gave probably gone for them. I’d love to have a full cm of rear clearance between my brake. With the 2.5 Ehline and a DXR I have 3mm tops with the rubber brake noodle in place. I have

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-30 Thread Ryan Frahm
The only conclusion I can come up with is N+1. I thought, maybe I’ll just sell my Susie, I absolutely love my Clem H. Had to take the Clem apart for service, it’s getting a new fork and a full powder coat job. Tried to throw the 2.5 Ehline from my Susie in just to see. Honestly a bit tight for

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-30 Thread Richard Rose
The only conclusion (?) I can get from this tire discussion on Susie / Gus & possibly Clems is - get a duplicate set of wheels. One for pavement / gravel, and a dedicated set for MTB with proper knobbies. Anything less seems a compromise? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2022, at 12:14 PM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-30 Thread Richard Rose
This is slightly / funny to me. A fatbike was my first experience with 1. A rigid MTB, and 2. Large volume tires. The experience convinced me that with large volume tires I could not only get by but really enjoy Rigid. Then plus tires hit & I bought a Marin Pine Mountain 1, a rigid steel MTB

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-30 Thread Ryan Frahm
I agree and would love to see a RH tire in a larger size. So many of us would I imagine! I remember reading that Panaracer is not able to make a larger tire for them so I don’t know if it will happen. A 2.6 version would sell like hotcakes I think! On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 9:14:20 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-30 Thread Brian Turner
I’m running the Ehline 27.5 x 2.5 on my Gus currently. I had them on a previous bike that was a dedicated trail bike, and I liked them for that purpose a lot, so I knew what to expect. So far, I’m riding my Gus 50/50 dirt/pavement and I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised at how well they roll

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-30 Thread Ryan Frahm
I’ll chime in on the Teravail Ehline vs the Ranger. Granted, I ran a 3” Ranger tough vs the Light 2.5 Ehline, but the Ranger was extremely slow in comparison. I haven’t tried the Vittoria, but I’ve heard they are great tires. That being said, when I need new tires they will likely be Rene

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-29 Thread Michael Williams
If we’re talking tires, take a look at the Kenda Booster Pro. It comes in 29x 2.6 and 27.5x2.8 and both in 120 TPI with standard casing and a more puncture resistant casing, both tubeless ready.I have the 29x2.2 version and they are a surprisingly fast and not buzzy on pavement and very

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-29 Thread Luke Hendrickson
I appreciate it. ❤️ On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote: > Luke, > > I'm so sorry for your loss. What a nice story behind your Atlantis. The > build is great but the story behind it makes it extra special. Thanks for > sharing it with us! > > On Sat, Oct

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-29 Thread Joe Mullins
Luke, I'm so sorry for your loss. What a nice story behind your Atlantis. The build is great but the story behind it makes it extra special. Thanks for sharing it with us! On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 7:16 PM Luke Hendrickson wrote: > I appreciate the input on the sorta terrain you’re on with them.

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-29 Thread J
Paul- Regarding the tires you've mentioned having and considering I have ridden most. WTB Ranger 27.5x2.8" came stock on a hard tail a few years ago. They were a fantastic mate to the WTB wheels and stayed sealed for I don't know how long after the sealant had long dried up riding mostly MTB

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-29 Thread Luke Hendrickson
I appreciate the input on the sorta terrain you’re on with them. Since my Riv is my do-it-all, I spend time on fire roads, single track, paved, and everything in between. The Maxxis tires currently on the bike are tough wearing and durable.

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-29 Thread Paul Clifton
The 2.8" G-Ones are OK. Not great. Definitely not bad. The 2.8s only come in the DD Raceguard compound, which I don't think is the supplest. They're just really fat and a little hard to push on pavement. But they are a lot of fun on the single track, and until I get them into some real mud, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-28 Thread Luke Hendrickson
Paul – great info and analysis. How’re you liking the Schwalbes? I’m tempted by them. On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:42:12 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > Yes good discussion! Paul, it's neat and surprising to hear from another > Knolly rider here of all places - I rode a Chilcotin (the

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-28 Thread Nick Shoemaker
Just went full Hilli with my Clem, replacing some 2.25 G-One Allrounds with a 2.6 Mezcal (actual 2.55) in back and a 2.6 Nobby Nic (actual 2.4) in the front. Might as well be a new bike - can’t say enough good things about the Clem! Rode some technical singletrack today and had a blast! Some

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-26 Thread Igor
I still want a susie or gus, again, but also find that I have a suspension fork and a carbon wheelset laying around that wouldn't work on either, ha! and I own two Stooge bikes... On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 10:22:44 PM UTC-4 jcbrya...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm right there with you, Garth. The

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-25 Thread J.C. Bryant
I'm right there with you, Garth. The best way for me to estimate fit is to compare stack/reach and other frame dimensions to any of my current bikes that fit me well. I also wish Rivendell would be more forthcoming with that information. I get that they're trying to make things easier/simpler

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-25 Thread Garth
((( Laughing )) I hate it when anyone asks "what's your pbh ?" It's like asking "what's your sign ?" As if it means what ... ? Going by crotch height alone totally ignores/assumes what frame reach someone may want/need. If you're a everyday cyclist it's very helpful to teach yourself

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-25 Thread Mackenzy Albright
I think the PBH guideline is intended to be imperfect as are bodies. If one wanted exact physiological measurements you can goto a bike fitter and get exact measurements. With PBH it provides a wide margin of fit based on aesthetic preferences (or wheel size) within those margins as presented

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-23 Thread Paul Clifton
@frahm - Awesome shot. Looks like a fun trail. Where is that? @Jason - The Knolly is definitely a fun bike, but I consider moving to a hard tail all the time. I just don't get wild enough to take advantage of a full suspension bike. I kind of think i would still like to have a bike with some

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-22 Thread Ryan Frahm
Those numbers sound close enough in my world. I run 12 ish cm lower than my PBH and it feels perfect. I do ride in sandals all the time, flip flops a lot, so I think that has me slightly lower than recommended. At 10 cm less I have knee pain as well. On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 12:47:12

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-22 Thread Brian Turner
I’m right there with you, Richard. I think PBH gets you in the ballpark, but I always feel like a bit of an oddball whenever I read Rivendell talk about how to figure it in relation to saddle height. For example, I’m 5’8” with a 84cm PBH. However, my saddle height is consistently 71-72cm across

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-21 Thread Richard Rose
Paul, just re-reading your post & looking at the pics. The G-Ones? Is that your tire of choice for the trails you ride? I expected something more aggressive but I bet they roll fast? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Paul Clifton wrote: > >  > I ride my Gus as my primary

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-21 Thread Joe Bernard
I was reading a book a while back and tried to pinch the screen to zoom in. It was a real book. Paper. On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:32:42 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > Ha! Thanks. On a similar note, I use an iPad exclusively. My wife had > something on her laptop and I kept trying to

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-21 Thread Ryan Frahm
Ha! Thanks. On a similar note, I use an iPad exclusively. My wife had something on her laptop and I kept trying to scroll on the screen. Her laptop does not do that… On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:25:13 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote: > I kept double tapping, trying to “like.” > > k. > > On Oct 21,

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-21 Thread Keith Paugh
I kept double tapping, trying to “like.” k. > On Oct 21, 2022, at 7:48 AM, Ryan Frahm wrote: > >  > > > Because this thread needs some pictures. >> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:42:12 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: >> Yes good discussion! Paul, it's neat and surprising to hear from

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread Jason Fuller
Yes good discussion! Paul, it's neat and surprising to hear from another Knolly rider here of all places - I rode a Chilcotin (the older 26" version) for a bunch of years! Sold it about a year ago and replaced it with an Esker Japhy steel hardtail as a bike that was more my style, but still

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread Richard Rose
I wonder about this exactly. If something works for someone I am the last to question it. But, in my time off road with the Clem the long stem and backsweep of the Bosco are GOLD! This position and the way it makes the bike feel / handle are pretty much my only reason for considering a Susie. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread Erik
Ohh. Yeah. I talked to a machinist friend about that but got cold feet. I was really worried about messing up something permanently. I am clearly not adventurous enough! On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:00 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote: > I honed out my Bombadil with an automotive brake

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread Erik
1x11 works perfectly. I had to get a fairly wide BB spindle to keep the chain off of the tire in the smallest gear, but it works beautifully. I think I ended up running a 122.5 BB.The longer chain stays actually help mellow out the chain angle on the highest and lowest gears. I’ve done

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread Erik
Not only do I have a quick release, I picked up an old Hite-Rite to go with it! I salvaged the quick release from an old Bridgestone that’s been in my shed for a long time. It’s certainly an option, but I did have problems with the post slipping. Given that I’m not out charging around,

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread lconley
I honed out my Bombadil with an automotive brake cylinder hone from 27.0 to 27.1+ before I took the plunge and got the reamer. Honing took a loong time. It does have the advantage of not needing to go all the way to 27.2 because most seatposts aren't a full 27.2. I did it so I could use a

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread James M
I've thought about getting my 27.0 Hunq reamed to 27.2 for exactly this reason. Maybe I should just do it already. On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:50:56 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote: > Solution to putting 27.2 seat post into 26.8 seat tube: > > [image: Seat Tube Reamer s.jpg] > > Every 26.8 and

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread Richard Rose
Interesting also that you are running 1 x 11? I guess I thought you needed a boost frame for that? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2022, at 1:53 AM, Erik wrote: > > I’ve been running my Gus as my primary mountain bike for about six months > now and it does everything I want it to do and

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Erik, Sweet looking Gus!In reading your post it seems like your missing a dropper option, Have you considered putting on a quick release at the seatpost binder bolt? You said you’ve been riding many iterations of MTBs since the 80s so I’m sure you’ve had a bike with one before.

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-20 Thread Richard Rose
Your bike is beautiful! Your choice of handlebar is interesting. One reason I am considering trading my suspended bike for a Susie is to get the exact riding position that I have on the Clem but on a dedicated mtb. In my case that means very high Bosco bars. The Clem is the only bike I own that

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Erik
I’ve been running my Gus as my primary mountain bike for about six months now and it does everything I want it to do and goes anywhere I want to go. Some background: mountain biking has been my primary form of biking since my teen years in the late 80s. I started on rigid bikes, moved to

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Ryan Frahm
Those are beautiful beautiful seatposts! I picked up the single bolt Nitto while waiting for my frame. The 2 bolt was impossible to find back then, like so many things. So far no issues with the single bolt other than much tougher to make small adjustments. Sorry for the thread derail. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Brian Turner
I also sympathize with the seatpost situation on most of the current Rivs. I had this gorgeous Paul TnH polished seatpost just languishing in my parts bin for the perfect bike - which I kinda thought might be my Gus… so image my dismay upon realizing it has (insert sad trombone)

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Ryan Frahm
I meant to say earlier that I do agree with you on the seatpost size Jason. I never plan to use a dropper but I’d have loved to use my Eriksen Sweetpost! That and some custom form of titanium tosco ish bars from Doom would make me even happier with my Susie. Everything is nicer with a touch of

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Jason Fuller
Regarding my earlier comment - I know, and fully respect, that Grant plans to never make a disc brake bike. Which is fine - sure, it limits their function in certain scenarios, but I do really appreciate brands that are willing to do what they want rather than follow market trends. It's what

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Kim Hetzel
Thank you for the information. On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:22 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Kim, that’s from 2021 — One year ago > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:59:27 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> I know the deadline has come

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Ryan Frahm
My understanding of what I’ve heard/read is the same as Brian’s, though his direct communication with Will might have given him more insight. One more run of filet frames for the Gus/Susie before they switch to TIG frames to save on the rising cost of having the brazed. It was also rumored to

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread J J
Just wanted to say that I’m really enjoying this thread. It’s very eye opening and timely, as I’ve recently been reflecting on various Rivendell wheelbases, older models vs newer, long vs medium vs short, and how these relative terms have shifted over time and changed bike philosophy and

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Richard Rose
Everything I now ride on the full squish bike I used to do on my Jones 29. That of course was a short wheelbase, tight chainstay bike with a 2.4” rear tire & a full 3” up front. It was always a blast, gobbling up roots & small rocks. It would take small drops in stride, 2’ at most and not at

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Brian Turner
I wouldn’t take this as gospel, but earlier this year in some email correspondence with Will from Rivendell, he mentioned that there would be another run of Susie / Gus frames either late this year or early next. He also mentioned that it MAY be the last run of these, and that they were

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Ryan Frahm
"long wheelbase progressive geometry" The next marketing ploy! I agree on the tire size. I’m not sure what wheels you are running, but the cliffhanger set up tubeless with a 2.4-5 would make it quite capable. Again, this is depending on your wants. I love a stable bike that can bomb some fun

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Mackenzy Albright
I think the tires size definitely makes a huge difference in overall feel. Even going from 2.2 on a narrow rim to 2.5 on a wide rim. If you've got a chance, try to fit some ~2.4 tires on there and hit the trails. I found some inexpensive second hand downhill tires to try it out and really

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Richard Rose
Nice, thanks for that input. My Clem is a new 52 and it has felt really good on smooth trails. But it was pretty rough relative to the squishy bike) on a heavily rooted section. But the tires are pretty small as noted. On a more rocky trail I frequent I would be concerned (I think?) about pedal

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Richard Rose
Good points for sure, but for the most part not for me. All trails within 2 hrs. of me frown on riding in muddy / soft conditions - and I don’t do so. So fenders are never required. Disks are nice though. I don’t miss them where I ride the Clem but I might on certain high speed descents. The

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
Kim, that’s from 2021 — One year ago On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:59:27 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > I know the deadline has come and passed. It does not indicate as to > whether or not if this for the Clem Smith Jr. "H" or the "L" version. > However, for information reasons: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Kim Hetzel
I know the deadline has come and passed. It does not indicate as to whether or not if this for the Clem Smith Jr. "H" or the "L" version. However, for information reasons: https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/clem-lotto-tickets-on-sale-til-friday-the-15th?_pos=1&_sid=934df0537&_ss=r Kim Hetzel

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Ryan Frahm
Absolutely. If I could pick one bike to do it all, I’d likely pick up a Clem L frame. It crosses my mind often actually because I’ve always looked for the “one” bike to do it all. On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:57:00 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > VERY interesting! > > Sent from my

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Richard Rose
VERY interesting! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Kim Hetzel wrote: > >  > I own a 2021 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L". I am just beginning to fully appreciate > this bicycle beyond it being very comfortable. > > Awhile back, I asked Will Keating from Rivendell Bicycle Works

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-19 Thread Richard Rose
Interesting stuff. Yeah, my Clem being a current geo “Low” with Bosco’s probably has more in common with your Susie than with your Clem. I am very upright on it & it simply glides through twisty but smooth singletrack. I only have 1.9” / 48mm tires (Gravelking SS) on it. I imaging a Susie would