Och! Good catch, Eli. Daft beggar I am -- my mistake once again making it
clear why I'm a theologian and not a mathematician. Grin. Thank you. I sen
demonstrate this by writing sin instead of sine. Dumb me. Dummie! Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 6:14:42 PM UTC-7, Eli
My macbook accesses them fine.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:10:40 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
The link is still there on the site, but when I click on it, it doesn't
show any charts. In blue where it says Geometry Charts:
The geometry charts are interesting. The two smaller sizes list 26 x 2.35
as the max tire, but they didn't carry that MTB sizing over to the 700,
which has a max of 55cm (actual, I presume). So, 2.25 = 57 mm nominal size,
thus presumably smaller actual size so it just physically fits. But then
It's a google doc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:10 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:
The link is still there on the site, but when I click on it, it doesn't
show any charts. In blue
I realized that my previous blog post may be misunderstood as saying that
width is all that matters for tire speed. In fact, it's a minor component -
it's just that when you are comparing tires of similar construction, wider
tires offer you more comfort and as much or more speed. To clarify, I
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 10:59:41 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:
Are you equating the behavior of high performance 32mm clinchers and 25mm
tubulars, or are both tires you mention clinchers?
I am just talking about test results. We tested the Grand Bois clinchers,
as well as the Vittorias as
Congratulations on the new Roadeo. Please report on the ride qualities and
post plenty of photos.
What exactly is reamed? Were they undersized, or irregular? I've never
gotten a frame from Rivendell (five so far) that wasn't spot on.
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Paul G pauldowg...@gmail.com
I agree with Christopher here - as you go for longer bars, you're going
increase the leverage of the load you put on the quill, so if anything, you
will flex it more instead of less.
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 6:55:19 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
I have regular boscos on my converted
and I thought you were a theodologian.
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 4:00:48 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Och! Good catch, Eli. Daft beggar I am -- my mistake once again making it
clear why I'm a theologian and not a mathematician. Grin. Thank you. I sen
demonstrate this by writing sin
no one here has been talking about the difference between a 230g and a 250g
tire. What we're talking about is the difference between a 200g tire and
500g tire, and it is without question a perceptible difference in
acceleration.
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:52:14 AM UTC-6, Tim McNamara
Scot,
I have used both the regular Bullmoose and the Bosco Bullmoose on my
first-generation Bombadil. Both are stiff bars, and both have more rise
than you might think. I usually require a quill stem to be in its highest
position, but I didn't need to raise either of the Bullmoose options to the
Well that is a beautiful bicycle. I have a 98 LongLow, also Double Joe and
one can also look at the finish for hours. I would love an All Rounder to
go with it though. Don;t sell that bike! You'll never find another like
it.
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 12:13:50 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
Patrick, exactly what you said. It needed to be opened up a bit as the seat
post would not insert. Just the tiniest of amounts and, yes, this is quite
normal as you allude to.
Paul
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Brilliant, Ron! Absolutely brilliant!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:10:36 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
and I thought you were a theodologian.
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 4:00:48 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Och! Good catch, Eli. Daft beggar I am -- my mistake once again
Keith,
That All-Rounder is a beaut, I'm glad you found a stem configuration to
make the moustache bars work for you. I'm intrigued by the fillet brazed
BB and look forward to your flickr set! Give us a head's up on the list
when it's available.
And, as I've posted somewhat recently, I too
Even though I don't recall specific weights being previously mentioned, it's
probably not perceptible. The acceleration of a bicyclist is very low to the
extent that such differences are negligible. Do you notice a difference in
acceleration when your water bottles are full compared to when
Thank you all for the answer. For me, it's taking me to a window where it says
the username is Zeke Murdock, and it is asking for a password. Strange.
I can't remember if I at one time chose a username and password for Google docs.
On Jan 5, 2014, at 4:20 AM, Bruce Herbitter wrote:
It's a
Interestingly that is pretty much in keeping with the traditional rolling
resistance tests done in tire labs. The decrease in rolling resistance
flattens out as inflation pressure increases. Even on a steel roller, an
increase from 100 to 140 psi doesn't reduce rolling resistance that much.
Jan or anyone else,
I think this is just a slight expansion of the topic rather than new-thread
worthy (apologies if I'm wrong). Does anyone know info on tire width for
off road. Once the volume gets past standard MTB tire widths (2-2.35) the
3 size gets very heavy, but no doubt rolls more
It's hard to know for sure, but is it possible that your saddle gets very
dry, very quickly after riding? After use, I mean. If the bike lives in a
temperature controlled environ when it's not riding, a quick humidity swing
might be causing that surface cracking. Or if it lives in a garage
Beautiful bike and build. Question: it seems that there's an unusual curve to the rear derailleur cable housing. It's hard to tell from the pictures but can you explain what and why that is. Or, is it just the angle of the shots?Thanks, JoanOn 01/05/14, Tom Virgiltevir...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry I
Good point, Steve. Between those two. Like
this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9360337251/in/set-72157634780609741
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:46:29 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 01/05/2014 11:39 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Jan or anyone else,
my daughter is riding on a new 1400g wheelset, and it made a huge
difference in her riding - especially tackling hills - there is no question
lighter rims and tires spin up easier
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 10:14:32 AM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
Even though I don't recall specific weights
agree on the less is better - if you soften up the leather too much, it's
going to stretch all over, and those cracks are going to widen. I vote for
Obenaufs here.
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 10:41:46 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
It's hard to know for sure, but is it possible that your
Kevin,
What size Blue Sam frame is yours?
I have a Blue 52 and the P45 Longboard fenders do not touch the chainstays.
Are the fenders in your pics Longboards? They look more like the regular
SKS fenders.
If you want P45 Longboards, they may fit better, as they fit mine without
touching the
I'm a big fan of reflective and glow in the dark tape. Conspicuity is a
big deal. But I'm already fine with my taping skills. I'm trying expand
my skillset into pinstriping. I can have both.
The BB shell area is lined now. I'm still learning:
Bill, what size Sams and which generation of Hunqapillar are you running?
I'm toying with trying the 2.25 on my first gen. Hunqapillar, which is
right at Riv's published clearance.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:30:29 AM UTC-7, Bill Fulford wrote:
I agree. I ride the
Patrick,
If I understand your issue with bounce correctly, it can most likely be
addressed by adding more air regardless of how wide the tire is. I think
you have written about finding that out with your current tires (were too
bouncy, added air, now fine). So I doubt very much that bounce
Those charts have a bit of age on them; they'd work for your Hunq, but
you're right, the new ones would have more clearance. The Bomba sizes are
for the pre-diagonal ones... when I was waiting for mine, I also had a
good chat w/ Keven, he was talking about the new fork crown that's widening
Thanks, Ted. Yes, you are understanding my desire and do a great job of
expressing the issues. I used a compass and ruler to sketch the difference
between 2.1 and 2.25 and it seems significant enough that I may well try
it (and if nothing else run the fatter tire on the front if it's tighter
Thanks, Leslie. Yes, indeed. Here's to the adventure the next year brings.
Knowing I made 50mm Duremes work on these trails (with less speed, and
using LCG sooner on climbs) means that regardless of terrain I'm going to
be better off than I was last year. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On
$3750; price includes professional packing shipping.
Pictures:
https://plus.google.com/photos/101616295581563373309/albums/5965472136228528865
This is a very lightly used Quickbeam Green Roadeo. I purchased this from
the first run of Roadeos, and only road it a few hundred miles over the
Whoops, tires are 27mm...excuse the typo.
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 1:19:43 PM UTC-5, Adam DeFayette wrote:
$3750; price includes professional packing shipping.
Pictures:
https://plus.google.com/photos/101616295581563373309/albums/5965472136228528865
This is a very lightly used
Indeed, and given the relationships between load, width, and pressure, I
suspect how wide is wide enough depends on weight (of the rider that is). I
am much shorter and roughly 65lbs lighter than you (which is about 30%
less) and I run 32mm tires down around 55 or 65 psi. these days. Decades
Sure sounds sound to me. There is no replacement for first hand
experimentation, its the gold standard. Also I think there is precedent for
using a front tire thats wider than the rear, like quasi-moto rear and
firecross front on the original Bombadil. I think the reasoning was
something like
Of course I run into Jim at the Ferry Building on my short, flu-stricken
(in the latter days, manifesting halfway up Diablo) trip north!
Esteban
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:22:48 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:
Hi All,
I had a nice trip to the Bay Area starting last Sunday, and my
Just got home from a trip north last night, and delighted by these photos.
Can't wait to ride locally again.
Esteban
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:23:59 PM UTC-8, David G wrote:
Curtis,
Thanks for organizing a very pleasant ride, with great sights, beer, and
company.
50cm version in RBBH:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/11781162905/
On Friday, January 3, 2014 5:25:59 PM UTC-8, Don Compton wrote:
I was lucky to ride an Appaloosa at Riv HQ and, for me, the handling was
so similar to my Roadeo, even though the grips on the bars were so far
I rode the 60cm Cheviot yesterday for a short spin (Esteban: I must've just
missed you!). The Cheviot was a really nice ride. A bit more stable and
steady than my Gomez; due to the longer wheelbase and the engine an inch
towards the back design evolution. It's gonna be a great bike.
The RBBH shop
I think that's the third unplanned Bay Area run-in in four years, even though
we both live in Southern California! Precisely four years in fact: the first
time we coincidentally met at The Depot in Mill Valley, it was December 30,
2009. The Ferry Building photo last week was shot on December
I don't think that this statement is accurate as stated, or at least it
hasn't been proved. Honking* light wheels up a hill feels very different
from honking heavy wheels up a hill. I don't know what makes them feel
different, and so consistently over a long period, if not something in the
wheels.
Nathan, everything you wrote was exactly my experience at the shop last
Thursday. I should have taken a photo of the lug ceiling; it's classic Riv
cleverness. The day I was there, the Cheviot had not been moved down to the
store yet. That sample with the Bosco bar and sprung saddle is sweet;
Forgot to add: if you are riding a derailleur bike and wish to honk, it
is customary and polite to shift to a higher gear, perhaps even two, before
you stand. One must maintain the proprieties.
To be perfectly stylish, you then glance behind you at your nearest
follower with a look mingled of
It's a 58 and P45 fenders.
As mentioned above, I put pieces of urethane at the contact points. With the
paint protected, I feel the squeeze may reduce any rattling. Happy enough with
the result.
PS: In the process, I realized I probably could have added a few more washers
(or cork)
I assume it's the first generation Hunqapillar , grey and red. The smart SAMs
are 2.25 and there is plenty of room for fenders. This is the bike I
photographed for you yesterday. I hope you got the photos. Bill
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David, thanks for sharing the Bombadil photos. I think that finally pushed me
over the edge for the Bosco Bullmoose, even though I never thought I'd say
that. The position doesn't look as extreme on your bike, and I'm hoping it'll
be similar on the Sam.
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On Jan 5, 2014, at 12:42 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:
Does anybody else remember Jobst asserting back in the early 90s that
tubulars were slower than clinchers because of the glue? I think the ...
flattening was more pronounced in tubulars than clinchers. that Tim mentions
was
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-54-cm-Green-Quickbeam-Bicycle-Frame-Fork-/360829574128?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item54031e5bf0
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Thanks for Posting. That's a really interesting video, and well done, to
boot.
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:54:56 AM UTC-8, AaronY wrote:
Hey Bunch,
I came across this on youtube last night and thought others might find it
interesting like I did.
OH yeah, just a coincidence, right... we know you're planning all these
great rides and not extending a polite invitation!!! You guys can't fool us
any more!
Sounds like a great three day ramble about the bay!
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Sun, Jan
Patrick,
Based on the trails in your picture, you might really enjoy the 3 tires of
the 29+ bikes. I've been experimenting with a 29+ on the front of my rigid
mountain bike, and it's been good so far, significantly smoother than the
2.2 Schwalbe Rocket Ron I had on previously--however, I can't
Thanks, Eric. I plan on trying a 29er+ sometime this coming year. Though if
at all possible, I'd love to make the Hunqapillar work. I am very
optimistic I can, but as you say, Summer seems a long way off.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 1:55:16 PM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote:
If anyone is interested, a quick google search turns
up http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/rolres.html
Racing motorcycle tires (or even street legal sport bike tires) have nearly
nothing in common with bicycle tires. Which doesn't mean they cant both
provide reduced traction when overinflated. The
Hey Riv folks (x-post with the iBOB list, apologies if you see it twice)-
A burgeoning interest in off-road riding has me selling my Salsa Casseroll
road bike to fund potential explorations in the MTB realm. Not exactly
Rivendell, but I've always thought of this bike as my poor man's
Groan. Beautiful pic, Erik, but we in the NE Illinois area will be
arriving at that ND temp by tomorrow AM and sticking with it for a couple
of days. (I ain't getting any younger and I just got to move to a warmer
climate one o' these days….)
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 1:39:47 PM UTC-6, Eric
Yeah, I was kind of surprised by the power hammer. It makes sense, of
course, but in my imagination I thought there would be some olde tyme forge
and a blacksmith type guy (blonde haired of course because its Sweden) with
a leather apron who would hammer a glowing hunk of ore into just the right
Phulf60 on Flickr generously took these photos of a 1st gen. Hunqapillar
with 2.25 Smart Sams (click the left arrow to see them all):
Tightest area according to Riv, chain stay width:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40253504@N08/11760373343/#comment72157639454297744
With abandon,
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Back in the day, tipped off that Tandems East still stocked the old, very
narrow, very light, very supple 559X1 (more like 22-23 mm) Specialized
Turbo tire, I called to order some, and one of the owners told me that
tandem teams, looking for a speed edge, were fond of these. Barely 200
grams and
I think it's still driven by an overhead belt or something, so it's plenty
old enough. :)
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I was kind of surprised by the power hammer. It makes sense, of
course, but in my imagination I thought there would be some olde
That's not funny!
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 12:27:55 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-54-cm-Green-Quickbeam-Bicycle-Frame-Fork-/360829574128?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item54031e5bf0
Joe Bernard your next bike is calling!
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I've had three 700C tandems, and only my current one will fit a true 40mm
tire. I can't understand running a tandem with anything less, but
apparently tandem purchasers have succumbed to the same marketing that
accompanies single bikes.
I would eventually like to get one of the new Co-Motion 29er
the hunt continues. onto testors blue angel blue
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On Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:32:54 AM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:
Interestingly that is pretty much in keeping with the traditional rolling
resistance tests done in tire labs. The decrease in rolling resistance
flattens out as inflation pressure increases. Even on a steel roller, an
If that Hunqapillar needs a good home I know a guy named Peter who would
graciously take it off your hands :-)
On Jan 5, 2014 4:20 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Thanks, Eric. I plan on trying a 29er+ sometime this coming year. Though
if at all possible, I'd love to make the
Understandable, but don't hold your breath, Peter. Either way, I keeping
it. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 4:21:35 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
If that Hunqapillar needs a good home I know a guy named Peter who would
graciously take it off your hands :-)
On Jan 5,
check out the back of the T-shirt worn by Tobias the Forger.
dougP
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:54:56 AM UTC-8, AaronY wrote:
Hey Bunch,
I came across this on youtube last night and thought others might find it
interesting like I did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E89nlVmPeeU
The introduction of that lovely Cheviot (Chevy Yacht) has thrown a wrench
in my plans, plus the complete Bleriot isn't getting any offers anyway. I'm
going to try selling the frame and moving the parts on to a new one. Here's
the Craigslist listing with the lousy pics. If you email or text,
As someone who has bought a used bike from Joe let me say he is
underselling and underpricing. He treats his bikes really well and is
honest to a fault. I am now trying to convince my wife she needs this bike
Joe!
On Jan 5, 2014 6:42 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
The introduction of
Okay, I've posted a few more images for you all to check out if you'd
likehttps://app.box.com/files/0/f/1430336408
.
I cannot comment about ride so much because I haven't been able to give it
a proper ride due to poor air quality in my area. So frustrating. However,
I do believe my stem
Two racks for sale:
Nitto Big Back Rack - $180 shipped inside USA
Nitto Mini Front Rack - $120 shipped inside USA
Thanks
Please reply offlist
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I goofed on the photos link. Try this
onehttps://app.box.com/s/85g0h65aqow3rusz1f2y
.
Paul
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 4:11:12 PM UTC-8, Paul G wrote:
Okay, I've posted a few more images for you all to check out if you'd
likehttps://app.box.com/files/0/f/1430336408
.
I cannot comment
That's a really beautiful build. Congrats on the new ride.
Jeff Hagedorn
Warragul, VIC Australia
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Great build. Love the gearing, go anywhere.
Don
On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:50:28 PM UTC-8, Paul G wrote:
Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my
command https://app.box.com/s/85g0h65aqow3rusz1f2y.
I had a couple add-ons brazed on in the form of downtube shifter
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 1:59:42 PM UTC-8, AaronY wrote:
Yeah, I was kind of surprised by the power hammer. It makes sense, of
course, but in my imagination I thought there would be some olde tyme forge
and a blacksmith type guy (blonde haired of course because its Sweden) with
a
Ahhh. Excellent to see you here, Bill. Great to connect your name with your
Flickr name. I did get them. Thank you.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 10:46:20 AM UTC-7, Bill Fulford wrote:
I assume it's the first generation Hunqapillar , grey and red. The smart
SAMs are 2.25
Hi Joan,
It is the out of the box cable length from the thumb shifter kit. the kit
came with the thumb shifters, cables, cores, cable stops and this segment
for the chain stay bracket to the derailleur. I was so amazed that I
actually got the drive train to work in both friction and SIS by
Jan,
You wrote:
Low and very high pressures were marginally more efficient than
medium-high pressures.
If I read that right, you are saying that your data shows a local maxima at
medium-high pressure with lower losses at tire pressures both above and
below that point. Is that really what you
She nds a Bleriot!
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 3:48:12 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
As someone who has bought a used bike from Joe let me say he is
underselling and underpricing. He treats his bikes really well and is
honest to a fault. I am now trying to convince my wife she needs this bike
Cool. I like the grip king in the snow pile seeming to hold up the bike for
the photo.
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 2:05:27 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Phulf60 on Flickr generously took these photos of a 1st gen. Hunqapillar
with 2.25 Smart Sams (click the left arrow to see them all):
just ride
On Jan 5, 2014 8:45 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:
Jan,
You wrote:
Low and very high pressures were marginally more efficient than
medium-high pressures.
If I read that right, you are saying that your data shows a local maxima
at medium-high pressure with lower losses at
Wow that's beautiful... reminds me of my *(former)* Bomba less one TT
*(sniff)*...
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 2:13:50 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2014 11:02:51 PM UTC-7, IanA wrote:
I love seeing these All Rounders pop-up on the list.
Keith: details please!
Wait what happened to your bombadil?!
On Jan 5, 2014 9:25 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow that's beautiful... reminds me of my *(former)* Bomba less one TT
*(sniff)*...
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 2:13:50 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2014
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:45:23 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:
If I read that right, you are saying that your data shows a local maxima
at medium-high pressure with lower losses at tire pressures both above and
below that point. Is that really what you mean to be saying?
Yes, that is what we
I pump up the Hetres, give em a squeeze and ride!
On Jan 5, 2014 9:50 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2014 5:45:23 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:
If I read that right, you are saying that your data shows a local maxima
at medium-high pressure with lower losses at tire
The housing can be trimmed but it will always come in from the side,
because of the design of the Shimano Shadow XT derailleur.
That beautiful look of the housing and cable following the lines of the
rear stay right back to the derailleur does not happen with this one. I put
one on my wife's
I was able to take advantage of a good friend's child's second birthday to
get in a wee bit of riding and camping this weekend. I have a group of
friends that love to camp (improved variety - sometimes with cabin rentals
even) at the 'Friends of Malaekahana' campsite on Oahu. The camp has some
Considering much of North America is shivering under a blanket of snow, a
post with this title was either from 1) warm country or 2) some Midwest
Madman. Glad to see you weren't risking freezing to claim 1st S24O. I
hope the photos serve as inspiration encouragement to those stuck in
Hi Blakcloud
You are right as rain. There's no getting around the angle that the
derailleur receives the cable. On the other side, it points straight into
the spokes. Now I know what that charming, tinkling sound is.
Agree that the advantage of the slim design is defeated by this. I'll
the Continental Tour Ride 650x42 is a very nice, affordable tire.
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@Eric it's funny cause it's true.
Pictures proved that I still haven't had time to write a ride
report...http://flic.kr/s/aHsjPWow7H
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Both of my tandems, a Terry Osell custom (made for someone else and it never
did fit me very well, way too short in the cockpit) and a Burley, were shod
with 700 x 28s. Terry recommended Conts at 120 psi, which we did use with
reasonably good success. No pinch flats, not noticeably
I am lowering the price on the 54 cm Quickbeam to $900. + shipping.
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