Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

Yeah, I’ve never heard of a frame that thin gauge in a size that big.
Probably because it won’t work well. But nobody seems to know for sure as
nobody I’ve talked to has tried it.

I think I know someone who’d build me such a thing, I’m just stalling
because I’m hesitant to spend money (and ask a builder to spend their time)
on an experiment that might end up unrideable and get recycled.


Best,
Reed

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 9:45 PM Ian A  wrote:

> Reed: A 747 standard tubing frame in that size would be unusual. I wonder
> if Norther/Lyon would do a one-off for you? Wouldn't hurt to ask
> https://northercycles.squarespace.com/jeff-lyon-colaboration/
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[RBW] Re: New(-to-me) Quickbeam

[Philip Williamson]

Blew my mind when I realized I could fit Bruce Gordon RnRs (“available from 
brucegordon.com”) in the Quickbeam. Felt like I wasted my life. That said, 38s 
and fenders is ideal. We are living through a great age for tires. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Ian A]

Reed: A 747 standard tubing frame in that size would be unusual. I wonder if 
Norther/Lyon would do a one-off for you? Wouldn't hurt to ask  
https://northercycles.squarespace.com/jeff-lyon-colaboration/

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[RBW] Widest tire for a Saluki

[Justin, Oakland]

My question is then: SBHills or WTB Byways or Strada USH for around town/fire 
road/gravel. I have a dedicated Roadie with BSPs and a MTB. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Lum Gim Fong]

Based in my experience with os rivtubing bikes:
Bleriot -8/5/8- excellent on flats and downhills/bogs down going uphill. Both 
53 and 55cm frames.
Sam Hillborne-same exact ride as Bleriot. 52cm blue frame.
Rambouillet- 8/5/8 but thinner walled stays and ST than Sam and Bleriot. Alot 
easier uphill than Bleriot and Sam. Excellent on flats and downhills.
Roadeo-excellent downhill/flats/way easier uphills never bogs down. 6/4/6 53 cm 
frame

YMMV depending on tubing used for the bigger frames.
The Rambouillet is definitely one of the faster rivbikes and most beautiful to 
my eye.

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Re: [RBW] Upright bars and romulus

[Ash]

Since last year I have been riding Appaloosa with various upright bars 
(Choco, Alba, Jones Loop, Open Bar, Bosco..).Occasionally I take my 
road bike for short rides.  Its drop bar has been made much less aggressive 
using a raiser stem. Yet, after riding fully upright bars, it feels very 
uncomfortable.  First I get pain in the back of my neck. After 30 mins of 
riding shoulders, arms and wrist pads too start to hurt.   

Currently I have Boscos on Appaloosa.  With this setup 
 I can rider for 6-7 hrs without any severe 
pain/discomfort. Usually I'm exhausted of peddling before any upper body 
issues start!  I also enjoy being able to see more surroundings along the 
way.



On Thursday, 30 August 2018 10:23:50 UTC-7, Andy C. wrote:
>
> Wow, I could have started this exact topic.
> I commute on a Canti-Rom with drops and ride recreationally on other bikes 
> with drops and one with a Bosco. Neck pain got so bad two months ago that I 
> stopped commuting and I haven't started up again. I just purchased an 
> Albatross cockpit from a list member but I have yet to install it as I'm 
> still holding out for the fountain of youth to return (I'm 54). After all, 
> I do see riders older than I in drops all the time.
> As I was ramping up my riding this spring I did lots of stretching but 
> never thought to stretch my neck. Now I know. Sure, I read about neck pain 
> on the Rivbike.com but I always thought, "That would never happen to me."
> --Andy C.
>
> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 5:33:54 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> And you’re no crustier now than you were at 66!  . I need to get up 
>> that way and ride with you again. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > I wouldn't call either 30 or 56 "old."  I'm 76. 
>>
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[RBW] Widest tire for a Saluki

[Justin, Oakland]

Moments like this are amazing. Thanks Frank! The Saluki is still my number 1 
bike but may be ready for a repaint!

-J

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[RBW] Re: Upright bars and romulus

[Ash]

Nice bike and nice bike photography Erl!


On Thursday, 30 August 2018 02:29:57 UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
> Dear Dennis,
>
> I have and really enjoy the ride: https://flic.kr/p/22KjYfJ
> If you have further questions let me know.  
> More photos of the bike here: 
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/86975051@N08/7913Q8
>
> All the best,
> Erl
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 8:22 PM Ian A  wrote:

> Reed wrote: "
>
> I'm still sorta stunned Grant spec'd anything with tubing that thin, but
> there it is in black and white. Sorry I doubted you!"
>
> Bear in mind, the tubing referenced is OS tubing. The equivalent would be
> somehere between 858 and 969 in standard "skinny" tubing. You might also
> verify the tubing used on the larger sizes.
>
> Apologies if the above info was obvious. Just wanted to mention it.
>

A very good point, Ian. I "knew" that, but sure wasn't remembering it
during this conversation. The Roadeo I test-rode at Riv definitely felt
more similar to my 9/6/9 standard diameter bikes. So subjective though!

I remain tempted to beg some poor frame builder to make 200lbs me a 64cm
7/4/7 standard diameter frame, just to see what happens.

Maybe that'll be my reward for selling all the bikes I don't ride. ::grin::


Best,
Reed Kennedy
San Francisco, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Ian A]

Reed wrote: "

I'm still sorta stunned Grant spec'd anything with tubing that thin, but there 
it is in black and white. Sorry I doubted you!"

Bear in mind, the tubing referenced is OS tubing. The equivalent would be 
somehere between 858 and 969 in standard "skinny" tubing. You might also verify 
the tubing used on the larger sizes. 

Apologies if the above info was obvious. Just wanted to mention it. 

IanA Alberta Canada

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Ian A]

Bear in mind, it is OS tubing. Somehere between 858 and 969 in standard 
"skinny" tubing. 

IanA

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[RBW] Widest tire for a Saluki

['frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Justin,
  I sold you that Saluki and I used to run the Schwalbe”fatties” that Riv used 
to sell. I think they were labeled 52 wide but measured about 47. That was 
about the limit on that frame. It is the later model with the kickstand plate 
which has more clearance than the first run Salukis. I have a first run 60cm 
and it will handle the Cazaderos but not the “fatties”. The Switchback Hill 
will fit your frame.

- Frank

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[RBW] Re: New(-to-me) Quickbeam

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dave, 38mm is safe max (I’ve ridden Barlow Pass and currently Steilacooms), but 
you can squeeze in Snowsqualme (44) so long as everything is true and you don’t 
need to go too far forward with the rear wheel.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

Dang, good call Lum! Thanks for the interview link, I'm looking forward to
reading through.

I'm still sorta stunned Grant spec'd anything with tubing that thin, but
there it is in black and white. Sorry I doubted you!

I suppose now the question is... Could I get a 63cm to fit? Hmm...


Best,
Reed

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> Reed:
> Scroll down to question #5:
> http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=376
>
> Grant tells all !!! 6/4/6!!!
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[RBW] Re: New(-to-me) Quickbeam

[Dave Grossman]

Firstly, I agree with Deacon Patrick that the Paul's are the bomb for 
setting up.  Once you get the spring tension right they are dynamite and so 
easily adjustable.  

I did have a question though, as I recently picked up a QB frame 
locally..whats max clearance?  I need to make my BMC MC into a 
geared bike now that I have the QB but I'm still gathering parts.  Can't 
wait to get it going and join the QB Kool Aid drinkers club!  Its a bucket 
list frame in my opinion!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Lum Gim Fong]

Reed:
Scroll down to question #5:
http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=376

Grant tells all !!! 6/4/6!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Lum Gim Fong]

Yes.
In an cyclofiend jim interview Grant said Roadeo 6/.45/6 DT/TT
It is on cycjim’s site.

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[RBW] Widest tire for a Saluki

[Tony DeFilippo]

I've seen pictures of Pudge's Saluki with SBH's no fenders though the 
clearances were slim.

I've never had larger than a 42 on mine.  Whenever I get off my tandem or my 
wife's Clementine I think how is like a Saluki exactly as it is but fitting 
Schwable Big one tires and fenders... Guess that's a different bike though! :)

Tony

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Re: [RBW] Widest tire for a Saluki

[Steve Palincsar]

I ran Hetres (with fenders) on my saluki, and that seemed like an ideal 
size for that bike.



On 09/03/2018 05:21 PM, Justin, Oakland wrote:

Hey folks-
Riding my Saluki today I guess I got TOO RAD and SLICED THE TREAD and TORE THE 
SIDEWALL on my Soma Cazaderos. The rear is toast and I’m looking for the widest 
non-Led Zeppelin tire I can fit.

I’m not above getting someone to dimple my stays so if there’s a tire that came 
close but no cigar let me know.

No fenders. No masters.

-J



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[RBW] Widest tire for a Saluki

[Justin, Oakland]

Hey folks-
Riding my Saluki today I guess I got TOO RAD and SLICED THE TREAD and TORE THE 
SIDEWALL on my Soma Cazaderos. The rear is toast and I’m looking for the widest 
non-Led Zeppelin tire I can fit.

I’m not above getting someone to dimple my stays so if there’s a tire that came 
close but no cigar let me know.

No fenders. No masters.

-J

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[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos size for 87.5cm PBH

[PG]

I have a PBH of 86.5 (measured by Grant) and ride a 54 San Marcos. It's a 
really good fit. So, I would go with the 57...if it were me.

Paul

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jim M.]

Mark once showed me the specs they sent to the frame builder for Legolas 
and Roadeo. They have the same tubing for top and seat tubes, fork blades 
and chain stays but I don't remember those thicknesses. The Legolas 
downtube is slightly heavier 
at .7/.5/.7 vs .65/.45/65 for the Roadeo. 

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 11:51:26 AM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:24 AM Lum Gim Fong  > wrote:
>
>> Roadeos are so fast!!!
>> 6/4/6 DT and TT
>>
>
> Lum, I find that hard to believe. Can you support that claim?
>
>
> Best,
> Reed Kennedy
> San Francisco, CA 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:24 AM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> Roadeos are so fast!!!
> 6/4/6 DT and TT
>

Lum, I find that hard to believe. Can you support that claim?


Best,
Reed Kennedy
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, William:

I'm having a little trouble with reply RBW, so will try this.

I'm very interested in your 59 cm ROADEO. Do you have pictures and can you 
tell me a little about it? 

I'll pull trigger quickly if all's right.

Thanks!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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> Def interested in that Legolas! And a heads up to the rest of you that I 
> will be selling my 59cm Roadeo to fund this .

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Lum Gim Fong]

Roadeos are so fast!!!
6/4/6 DT and TT

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, William:

I'm very interested in your 59 cm ROADEO. Do you have pictures and can you 
tell me a little about it? 

I'll pull trigger quickly if all's right.

Thanks!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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> Def interested in that Legolas! And a heads up to the rest of you that I 
> will be selling my 59cm Roadeo to fund this .

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote:
>
> In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a 
> blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both 
> as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part them 
> out, but we’ll see. Stay tuned for details. Just a heads-up for now. 
>  —Forrest (Iowa City, go Hawkeyes) 
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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote:
>
> In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a 
> blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both 
> as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part them 
> out, but we’ll see. Stay tuned for details. Just a heads-up for now. 
>  —Forrest (Iowa City, go Hawkeyes) 
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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote:
>
> In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a 
> blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both 
> as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part them 
> out, but we’ll see. Stay tuned for details. Just a heads-up for now. 
>  —Forrest (Iowa City, go Hawkeyes) 
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[RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos size for 87.5cm PBH

['Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My PBH is 89 cm, and I ride a 59 San Marcos with plenty of seatpost. 
According to the geometry chart, there is only .1" between the two sizes. 
The 59 has 2 top tubes where the 57 will only have 1, if that matters to 
you. The 57 is designed for 650b, and 59 is 700c.

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-5, Momo wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I've taken a measurement of my PBH and I came with 87.5cm.
>
> I have a choice of Soma San Marcos frames - a 57 or a 59.
>
> I'm not sure which one to get. Does anyone out there ride a San Marcos of 
> 57 or 59 with a similar PBH?
>
> The San Marcos geo is here:
>
> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set
>
> Please help me with this quandary!
>
> Thanks,
>
> M
>
>

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[RBW] Soma San Marcos size for 87.5cm PBH

[Momo]

Hi folks,

I've taken a measurement of my PBH and I came with 87.5cm.

I have a choice of Soma San Marcos frames - a 57 or a 59.

I'm not sure which one to get. Does anyone out there ride a San Marcos of 
57 or 59 with a similar PBH?

The San Marcos geo is here:

http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set

Please help me with this quandary!

Thanks,

M

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[RBW] FS: Berthoud GB25 Front Bag, Brooks Cambium C-13

[Taz Taylor]

For sale:  As new Berthoud GB25 in French Blue.  $185 plus shipping 
(approx. $10)


I bought this but then went in a different direction using a Rivendell 
Sackville bag and Nitto F15 instead of the GB and a decaleur. 

So this bag is completely unused and unmodified, never installed.


Brooks Cambium C-13 132 with carbon rails.  Mounted and ridden briefly 
(less than 10 miles).   $135 plus shipping.


Tried to install on my older French touring bike with a Laprade seat post 
but the clamp wasn't compatible.  (then discovered that locating a decent 
26.6 seat post wasn't the easiest so stuck with my B-17).  Works fine with 
the modern Campy and Thomson seat posts I tested.


May have a matching set of Berthoud handlebar and saddle bags (gray) 
available in near future.  These are used so I'll need take some pics.


Thanks,

Taz in ATL


taztay...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Not so permanent Basket + Rack

[Zach Hale]

Voile straps work great to hold the basket down. I prefer zip ties, but for 
easy removal voile have worked great for me and others I know. 

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[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Yes, top picture!

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[RBW] Re: Not so permanent Basket + Rack

[Vincent Tamer]

Hey Justin, what length of Voile straps do you use? It’s a wald 137 you are 
attaching?

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[RBW] Re: silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

[Bob Lovejoy]

Jason,

The first/top ones I believe.  I do have some but they are needed for a 
build.  That said, if I find extras in the parts stash, I will let you 
know.  I did call Paul's at one point to see if they had them directly but 
they sent me back to Rivendell in my search.  Hopefully they will make 
another batch and be offered again.

Bob

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 10:23:06 AM UTC-5, jandrews wrote:
>
> Thanks you Brian
> is the adapter something that looks like this:
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2018-09-03 at 7.10.39 AM.png]
>
> *or this:*
>
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2018-09-03 at 7.08.04 AM.png]
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 9:44:26 AM UTC-4, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jason, 
>>
>> The silver adapter is a small baseplate that slips between the flat, 
>> squared base of the shimano thumbies and the silver shifter... It looks 
>> like downtube shifter mounts with the protruding cylinder with flats.  I’d 
>> consider selling mine except my wife who had been using my Silver shifters 
>> as downtubers just recently mentioned wanting a change... likely to bar 
>> mounted index shifting... so I’ll want to hang on to them for a future 
>> thumbie build or possibly sell the whole set of shifter/adapter/thumbies 
>> together. 
>>
>> Weird that Riv no longer has them.  There’s still a link on the Riv Paul 
>> thumbies page but goes nowhere.  Maybe they sold through stock and won’t 
>> replenish with silver 2.0 in the works? 
>>
>> Brian Cole 
>> Lawrenceville NJ
>
>

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[RBW] Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[William!]

Def interested in that Legolas! And a heads up to the rest of you that I will 
be selling my 59cm Roadeo to fund this .

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Re: [RBW] Donated bike; intrepid recipient; request for equipment donations

[Patrick Moore]

Alex: Sorry for the delay in responding.

I got all we need, but thanks very much for the offer.

Best, Patrick

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:42 AM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles <
4824...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick,
> DM me a wishlist of remaining items and I'll get them off today...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alex
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[RBW] Re: access to grip king bearings

[Luke]

I second the jeweler's screwdriver- that's worked great for me!

On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 9:54:52 PM UTC-4, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
>
> To anyone who’s serviced any pedal this seems stupid I’m sure, but... 
>
> How do you get at the bearings on a Grip King? Does the gray plasticky 
> cover pop off? twist off? magically transmogrify to another dimension? 
>
> Is there some special tool about which I should probably already know? 
>
> Yours, 
> Thomas Lynn Skean 
> grip kings on all my bikes: 2 Hillbornes and a Bike Friday

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[RBW] Re: Not so permanent Basket + Rack

[Ash]

Hi Roberta,  with this mechanism, the basket is wobbly by nature.  Feels 
like it may fall off, but it hasn't.   I think it will be fine for 10 lbs 
or so cargo (a little more maybe, on wider racks)  as long as you slow down 
on bumps.  

Here's a picture from when I had loaded it with two 6-packs and a few more 
things.  https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcVf21fG8SUcV8Hr9

It was 5-mile ride from the store.  It held up fine.



On Sunday, 2 September 2018 07:01:50 UTC-7, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> Ash,
>
> Do the springs hold the basket tightly to the rack?  Do you ever feel that 
> going over a big bump could dislodge it?  
>
> Roberta
>
> On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 12:48:30 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>
>>
>> Public bikes makes a basket with clasp mechanism based on spring tension. 
>>  Pictures attached.  I use this when I have more cargo than the front 
>> Wald's basket on Mark's rack can handle.  It is fine for light grocery runs 
>> on low speeds.  
>>
>> Nowhere as solid as Wald's rack attached to the rack with zip ties/straps.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:47:46 UTC-7, Vincent Tamer wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone got any ideas for a detachable wald setup? I love baskets in the 
>>> practical sense but I think my favorite Riv Bike setup is med Saddle sack 
>>> in back and a track sack up front. It has a classy feel. 
>>>
>>> Do you think some kind of strap, either Irish or Voile/ski strap, would 
>>> make a good way of securing a basket for light and even med loads? This way 
>>> it can be removed or installed easily. I’m gonna try it this weekend but 
>>> I’m curious if any one else has. 
>>>
>>> I will certainly be careful in light of all this nitto basket rack hubbub
>>
>>

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[RBW] silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Hi Jason,

The silver adapter is a small baseplate that slips between the flat, squared 
base of the shimano thumbies and the silver shifter... It looks like downtube 
shifter mounts with the protruding cylinder with flats.  I’d consider selling 
mine except my wife who had been using my Silver shifters as downtubers just 
recently mentioned wanting a change... likely to bar mounted index shifting... 
so I’ll want to hang on to them for a future thumbie build or possibly sell the 
whole set of shifter/adapter/thumbies together.

Weird that Riv no longer has them.  There’s still a link on the Riv Paul 
thumbies page but goes nowhere.  Maybe they sold through stock and won’t 
replenish with silver 2.0 in the works?

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] silver shifter adapter for Paul thumbies

[jandrews]

Hello, I have an older (non-hinged) pair of Paul thumbies for Shimano 
shifters.  I'd like to use Dia-Compe (Silver) friction shift levers on the 
mounts. I know Riv used to sell an adapter to make this work, but I don't 
believe it's available on their site any longer.  Does anyone know which 
piece is needed? or does anyone have this they'd like to sell?
Thank you
Jason 

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