[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm a master of The Google (actually startpage.com. Google tracks your IP, 
but I digress). RB-Ts are good bikes, but that one is well ridden. I 
wouldn't pay more than $250 for it.

On Monday, April 8, 2013 10:11:47 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote:

 Pretty fancy sleuth work, Joe! 

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Re: [RBW] my sort of new to me Hunqapillar

2013-04-09 Thread Brian Hanson
Nice bike, Christian!  I think my Hunqa would do a brevet, in its current
config, as well.  When I have it outfitted with similar wheels/tires and
bars as my Hilsen, it's a bit stiffer, but a superbly comfortable ride.
Nice to know that it is a proven alternate if the Hilsen has an issue
pre-ride...

Brian
Seattle, WA


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.comwrote:

 So back in the fall I bought a Hunqapillar from someone on the list.  I
 rode it around here and there but nothing more than a few miles at a time.
  For 99% of my riding I used my 650B Terraferma.  The Hunqapillar was
 great, but I bought it to ride around town, eventually to tour again, it
 was a good deal, etc.

 But then the drive side chainstay on my beloved Terraferma broke!  The
 Hunqapillar needed to snap to attention.  I swapped over my decaleur and
 Berthoud bag, head light (it came with a SON hub), converted to drivetrain
 from 1 X 8 to 3 X 8 (I'd prefer my compact Herse, but did not want to
 fiddle with it and knew I'd get the Sugino up and running quickly).

 I then headed out for a ride.  I needed to get the bike in shape for this
 weekend's fleche.  So on Monday I did a mixed terrain century using
 Marathon Duremes (talk about a workout!), ordered some Paselas, and headed
 out Saturday morning for the fleche.  I developed some hip pain--something
 that's crept up before and had been solved, I think, by my low q Herse
 crank--and had to abandon. But not before getting in a 200k.

 The Hunqapillar was to be my Hunqafleche but since I did not finish I
 cannot christen it a full rando bike yet.  It performed well, however.  The
 Paselas make it look like a skinny tire bike! Here's a few photos:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157633184218583/with/
 8627620295/

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville SaddleSack Small Grey - $75

2013-04-09 Thread Evan Spacht
Beardpapa, I'm interested .

I recently purchased a Nitto Toprack, but I'm sort of thinking that a 
Saddlebag would be more useful.
Would you be interested in making a trade?

On Monday, April 8, 2013 7:42:28 PM UTC-7, Beardpapa wrote:

 Haven't used it and need to sell.  Msg me if you're interested

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[RBW] The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread Bruce Herbitter
No, not the Glen Frye song...

RBW has certainly had some really nice blues over the years. The Ram blue
mentioned in a previous thread is French Blue, as close as I can see. Since
there is a forest in France named Rambouillet as well as a sheep breed,
makes sense. The Road and Romulus had a similar wonderful minty blue color,
and Bleriot and Hilsen also were/are blue beauties. I don't know the names,
if any, that RBW has for them.

When my Road needed a repaint I looked long and hard at all the pretty
bikes in the cyclofiend gallery, almost going with the Branywine red, but
finally re doing it in the original blue. It just looks so good.

Tailwinds.

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread Tom Goodmann
And don't forget the easy-on-the-eyes grey-blue of the Sam Hillborne 
(unless you have the green, or the orange . . . ). Blue seems a color you 
can live with for a long time; there must be some neuroscience behind all 
this.

Tom

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 6:43:45 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 No, not the Glen Frye song...

 RBW has certainly had some really nice blues over the years. The Ram blue 
 mentioned in a previous thread is French Blue, as close as I can see. Since 
 there is a forest in France named Rambouillet as well as a sheep breed, 
 makes sense. The Road and Romulus had a similar wonderful minty blue color, 
 and Bleriot and Hilsen also were/are blue beauties. I don't know the names, 
 if any, that RBW has for them.

 When my Road needed a repaint I looked long and hard at all the pretty 
 bikes in the cyclofiend gallery, almost going with the Branywine red, but 
 finally re doing it in the original blue. It just looks so good. 

 Tailwinds.


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[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Tom Goodmann
Prices for RBTs seem to be on the rise (no surprise; so's everything, 
right?)  Before I lucked into a Heron--it just arrived yesterday!--I was on 
the hunt for an RB-T, and anything I turned up in my size (59 cm) was 
offered to me for no less than $500--and, as Joe says, in well ridden 
condition. --Tom

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:34:07 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I'm a master of The Google (actually startpage.com. Google tracks your 
 IP, but I digress). RB-Ts are good bikes, but that one is well ridden. I 
 wouldn't pay more than $250 for it.

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 10:11:47 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote:

 Pretty fancy sleuth work, Joe! 



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[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
No comment particular to the RB-T, but of old, used bikes in general. IME, you 
can spend a load of $$$ on a used bike chasing an unattainable dream. At a 
minimum: unless the bike is a garage-queen formerly owned by an OCD type, or 
you happen to be a decent wrench yourself and have a garage full of good parts, 
you're probably going to have to spend a small fortune at the LBS replacing 
things that are worn out. Chain, cassette, crank/chainring(s), brake pads, 
bar-tape, cables, tires, and who knows what else, along with a 
tune-up/overhaul...could easily run to $300 or even $500 (even with mediocre 
replacement parts) at a LBS. As a best-case scenario, I'm not including stuff 
like cracked/bent rims or screwed up hubs or a stuck seatpost or a 
handlebar/stem that Nitto says you should replace every 5 years (or when your 
GF needs a different bar/stem for comfort)...things that can run into big 
money. So, let's say that, with this basic maintenance, the bike actually costs 
you $800 total. Even for that $800, most of the good parts that were not 
replaced (including the frame) are still 20 years old, and have an unknown 
history. And besides that, unless your GF really has her heart set on a RB-T, 
you've just spent $800 on a bike that you settled for because it was one of 
very few suitable options available on the local used market. If she doesn't 
like it after going through all that trouble, you'll be lucky to recoup even a 
fraction of the extra $$$ you put into fixing it up.

For that $800 or a bit more, you could buy a NEW bike with all new parts and a 
warranty and a LBS that wants you and your GF to be happy customers. Most 
importantly, the new bike world allows a person to shop around a bit to find a 
bike he/she really likes, rather than settling for whatever happens to make it 
to Craigslist.

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[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
My previous comment was in no way intended to say that used/older bikes are not 
worth buying and/or fixing. I simply wanted to offer my perspective about what 
I consider to be reasonable expectations in this situation. Too often, people 
buy used older bikes while wearing a set of blinders because they want to 
believe that this cool vintage bike will be a fun and economical project. 
Sometimes it's not fun or economical.

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[RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-09 Thread Ron Mc
I have a Tubus Vega on my daughter's bike, and my buddy has a Tubus Cargo 
on his tandem.  The Cr-Mo Tubus racks have a light gray primer, which 
almost exactly matches the aluminum-silver paint on my daughter's bike, and 
looks striking.  The cargo is made to carry panniers lower and is, of 
course, stainless.  Tubus builds a fine rack, and rated for 55 lbs.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/04087c35-bdc3-41ce-a7eb-571ad52a0125.jpg


On Monday, April 8, 2013 9:08:49 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:

 Bruce Gordon (he makes them to order, so I reckon you can get whatever 
 color you want) or Tubus.  

 I bought the big Nitto and wound up selling after only briefly installing 
 it on my new tourer.  Heavy and overbuilt compared to Gordon and Tubus 
 entries.  The finish as with all Nitto products sure looks nice.

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 8:46:11 PM UTC-5, Norman Bone wrote:

 Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take 
 panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack): 
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm . 
 Anyone have experience with it? 
 Any other silver racks I should be looking at?

 -Norman in PDX



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[RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-09 Thread Ron Mc
forgot to add - the Touring Store is the place to check for Tubus racks and 
hardware - no online sales, but good price and great service.  
http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/TUBUS%20HOME/TUBUS%20HOME%20PAGE.htm

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:08:20 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 I have a Tubus Vega on my daughter's bike, and my buddy has a Tubus Cargo 
 on his tandem.  The Cr-Mo Tubus racks have a light gray primer, which 
 almost exactly matches the aluminum-silver paint on my daughter's bike, and 
 looks striking.  The cargo is made to carry panniers lower and is, of 
 course, stainless.  Tubus builds a fine rack, and rated for 55 lbs.  


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/04087c35-bdc3-41ce-a7eb-571ad52a0125.jpg


 On Monday, April 8, 2013 9:08:49 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:

 Bruce Gordon (he makes them to order, so I reckon you can get whatever 
 color you want) or Tubus.  

 I bought the big Nitto and wound up selling after only briefly installing 
 it on my new tourer.  Heavy and overbuilt compared to Gordon and Tubus 
 entries.  The finish as with all Nitto products sure looks nice.

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 8:46:11 PM UTC-5, Norman Bone wrote:

 Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take 
 panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack): 
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm . 
 Anyone have experience with it? 
 Any other silver racks I should be looking at?

 -Norman in PDX



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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Peter Morgano
As a owner of many a vintage bike I have to agree with Jim. I wouldn't buy
one not expecting to spend extra on a host of things. But for alot of CV
people this is a built in cost, all depends on where you are coming at the
project.
On Apr 9, 2013 8:06 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:

 My previous comment was in no way intended to say that used/older bikes
 are not worth buying and/or fixing. I simply wanted to offer my perspective
 about what I consider to be reasonable expectations in this situation. Too
 often, people buy used older bikes while wearing a set of blinders because
 they want to believe that this cool vintage bike will be a fun and
 economical project. Sometimes it's not fun or economical.

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Same holds true for old cars or boats.  If you know what you are doing and
want to do the project, great. If you have no clue but see a low price on
ebay or CL, you are just rolling dice. I bought a used frame set (RBW Road)
here (or maybe it was on the 650B list?) from a reputable seller and knew
what my budget would be. I also could (and did) build it up from scratch
myself. It worked out  satisfactorily, but for the same money I could also
have purchased new, decent quality mass production bike. The bike I built
up is way more bike for the same money, imo.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 My previous comment was in no way intended to say that used/older bikes
 are not worth buying and/or fixing. I simply wanted to offer my perspective
 about what I consider to be reasonable expectations in this situation. Too
 often, people buy used older bikes while wearing a set of blinders because
 they want to believe that this cool vintage bike will be a fun and
 economical project. Sometimes it's not fun or economical.

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Re: [RBW] Re: are there any true 700x40 plush, high tpi tires?

2013-04-09 Thread Matthew J

Just noticed these new Schwalbe 700x3538 Marathons on Wall Bike the other 
day.  Not quite so large but may have sufficient plush for the 700 crowd:
 
http://www.wallbike.com/schwalbe/tires/schwalbe-marathon-deluxe
 
I might try them this fall if I can get enough time for a week plus tour I 
hope to do.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!

2013-04-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Ryan -- I know it's an odd fixation, but my goal is to have a bike that
rides very nicely unladen, as the Ram has proved to do, and that can also
carry groceries -- up to 40 lb, usually 25 to 30 lb -- nicely. The '73
Motobecane did so, as did my first -- early 1995 -- Waterford custom; which
is odd because neither of these bikes was at all designed for loading. I
don't want a bike designed for heavy loads as these, probably, won't ride
as nicely unladen.

As for theft, I use my '03 custom for errands but I am fortunate that it
rarely needs to be locked outside, and that only in better, and well
trafficked, places.

Frankly, I see the Ram as a kind of high end -- well, beater is too strong
a word, but one that spares my customs, should they need it.

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote:

 Not my business, of course, but really, is hauling 30-40lbs of groceries
 the best  application for your new Ram ? I thought that 20lbs was about the
 maximum.  The SamH , which you did not enjoy as much seemed  like a better
 Riv for errand running .

 I know you use your bikes a lot for transport and errand running, but I
 would hate to see one of those lovely Rivendells  vandalized or stolen,
 which is one of the reasons , I suspect, you have the Fargo and you've had
 other bikes too as utility bikes.

 On Saturday, April 6, 2013 9:43:57 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/**RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#

 I've added a Fly rack and a small seat wedge for basic kit, but
 otherwise, as you see it. The wheels are loaners, hope to get my own
 shortly.

 Pro 5 Vis 44/30 pulling 14-15-16-17-18-20-23 7 speed cassette by 7400
 series derailleurs, with old Dura Ace SPD pedals and 7 speed Dura Ace dt
 shifters -- indexed! First indexed drivetrain I've owned since, what, 1993.
 Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks are light and roll quite well despite the armored
 tread -- would love to get some very nice Compass Bike tires.

 9 cm Nitto stem with 42 cm Noodles: I've got the bar a bit higher than on
 the other Rivs, but also 1 cm further out -- serendipity, but the original
 setup seems to be a keeper.

 Shimano levers pulling (for now): front: Nashbar, rear: Shimano A550.
 Nitto Jaguar post (thanks again, Tom!), original issue Flite, used but good
 tape, Fly rack. That's all you need!

 I think this will take over grocery runs from the Fargo, which will go
 back to off road duty.

 Thanks to Tim Whalen, sometime of this list, for a good price and very
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Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I wish I'd kept a note of the blue with which they powdercoated my
erstwhile Herse. Much like the Ram blue; at any rate, nicer than the
original Herse blue, tho' that on this bike was 53 years old, I think, at
time of re-coat. The Ram will get this powdercoat if I live long enough to
get it re-coated.

I do like the Ram blue -- better, frankly, than the almost navy on the '99
Joe.

Another favorite is the sage green -- with cream contrasts -- that covers
my '03.

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Bruce Herbitter
bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote:

 No, not the Glen Frye song...

 RBW has certainly had some really nice blues over the years. The Ram blue
 mentioned in a previous thread is French Blue, as close as I can see. Since
 there is a forest in France named Rambouillet as well as a sheep breed,
 makes sense. The Road and Romulus had a similar wonderful minty blue color,
 and Bleriot and Hilsen also were/are blue beauties. I don't know the names,
 if any, that RBW has for them.

 When my Road needed a repaint I looked long and hard at all the pretty
 bikes in the cyclofiend gallery, almost going with the Branywine red, but
 finally re doing it in the original blue. It just looks so good.

 Tailwinds.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville SaddleSack Small Grey - $75

2013-04-09 Thread Beardpapa
SOLD!

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:06:57 AM UTC-5, Evan Spacht wrote:

 Beardpapa, I'm interested .

 I recently purchased a Nitto Toprack, but I'm sort of thinking that a 
 Saddlebag would be more useful.
 Would you be interested in making a trade?

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 7:42:28 PM UTC-7, Beardpapa wrote:

 Haven't used it and need to sell.  Msg me if you're interested



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Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Is this the yellowish green that first year Salukis came in?


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 Another favorite is the sage green -- with cream contrasts -- that covers
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Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Ahh..sage green. I will either a buy a Riv that color someday, or have one 
painted such. I saw/rode Ray Varella's sage green Rivendell some years ago 
in Vallejo, and it was just gorgeous.
 

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 6:44:46 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I wish I'd kept a note of the blue with which they powdercoated my 
 erstwhile Herse. Much like the Ram blue; at any rate, nicer than the 
 original Herse blue, tho' that on this bike was 53 years old, I think, at 
 time of re-coat. The Ram will get this powdercoat if I live long enough to 
 get it re-coated.

 I do like the Ram blue -- better, frankly, than the almost navy on the '99 
 Joe. 

 Another favorite is the sage green -- with cream contrasts -- that covers 
 my '03. 

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 No, not the Glen Frye song...

 RBW has certainly had some really nice blues over the years. The Ram blue 
 mentioned in a previous thread is French Blue, as close as I can see. Since 
 there is a forest in France named Rambouillet as well as a sheep breed, 
 makes sense. The Road and Romulus had a similar wonderful minty blue color, 
 and Bleriot and Hilsen also were/are blue beauties. I don't know the names, 
 if any, that RBW has for them.

 When my Road needed a repaint I looked long and hard at all the pretty 
 bikes in the cyclofiend gallery, almost going with the Branywine red, but 
 finally re doing it in the original blue. It just looks so good. 

 Tailwinds.

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[RBW] WTB Sackville Saddlesack Small

2013-04-09 Thread EGNolan
Title says it all. As long as it's in OK condition color doesn't matter. 
Let me know what you have and how much you want.
 
Best,
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Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This and the immediately prior photo were taken with an old iPhone, but may
serve to indicate this sage green.

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5861264110804371778

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5823569192821520178

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 Is this the yellowish green that first year Salukis came in?


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Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Okay, not Saluki green.  Nice treatment of the stays too.


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 This and the immediately prior photo were taken with an old iPhone, but
 may serve to indicate this sage green.

 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5861264110804371778

 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5823569192821520178

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  wrote:

 Is this the yellowish green that first year Salukis came in?


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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights and Theft

2013-04-09 Thread Claude LaVallee
A similar thing happened to me during a trip to the grocery store, also on 
a busy street, in front of a busy bus stop, and in broad daylight, except 
the thief tried to get my basket!

I came out of the grocery store to find that someone had cut 5 of the 8 zip 
ties that held the basket to my front rack. I promptly got some metal 
plates and screwed my basket to the rack, and also now keep both my basket 
and the rack locked to my frame with a cable, as a deterrent. My seat post 
and saddle are locked to my frame too, with a U-lock.

I'm a fan of pitlock skewers and, as soon as I can afford them, I'm also 
getting some of those to secure my wheels to the frame (for now I just TiGr 
lock both wheels to the frame and a bike rack (30 TiGr lock), and back 
that up with a U-lock).

Lights are way more valuable than a basket, so I would consider a good 
pitlock skewer set lock yours onto your bike.

Good luck, and don't let this stop you from the practical use of your bike!

On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:43:19 PM UTC-4, Ryan Ray wrote:

 I came out of my Dr appointment today to find the 5 zip ties holding the 
 wire connecting my dynamo hub to my light removed and the wire dangling. 
 It's just a cheap IQ Fly.

 Is light theft like this common? It was on a busy street in daylight. An 
 Acorn bag was left alone.




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Re: [RBW] The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The stays were aftermarket, when Dave Porter swapped the verticals for
1010s and moved the brake bridge. A bit of serendipity for the aesthetics.

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Bruce Herbitter
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 Okay, not Saluki green.  Nice treatment of the stays too.


 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:37 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 This and the immediately prior photo were taken with an old iPhone, but
 may serve to indicate this sage green.


 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5861264110804371778


 https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5823569192821520178

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 bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is this the yellowish green that first year Salukis came in?


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[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Frank Brose
What Jim says is well worth considering. I don't know how much I have in 
mine but I know it would be way north of $800 if I would have bought 
everything new (might be anyhow).  I had it repainted and had used parts I 
on hand that I used and it still cost me a fair amount of money . The used 
parts cost me something at some point in time and new cables,chain, 
tire,tubes,ect. all add up. I also have enough parts that I knew if I 
didn't like the setup I could always change it's hairdo That being said 
it's still one of my favorite bikes but then again it fits me and I like 
the ride. If I were fiscally responsible when it comes to bicycles. I 
probably would have never pursued it. But I'm not.
 
On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:01:07 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 No comment particular to the RB-T, but of old, used bikes in general. IME, 
 you can spend a load of $$$ on a used bike chasing an unattainable dream. 
 At a minimum: unless the bike is a garage-queen formerly owned by an OCD 
 type, or you happen to be a decent wrench yourself and have a garage full 
 of good parts, you're probably going to have to spend a small fortune at 
 the LBS replacing things that are worn out. Chain, cassette, 
 crank/chainring(s), brake pads, bar-tape, cables, tires, and who knows what 
 else, along with a tune-up/overhaul...could easily run to $300 or even $500 
 (even with mediocre replacement parts) at a LBS. As a best-case scenario, 
 I'm not including stuff like cracked/bent rims or screwed up hubs or a 
 stuck seatpost or a handlebar/stem that Nitto says you should replace every 
 5 years (or when your GF needs a different bar/stem for comfort)...things 
 that can run into big money. So, let's say that, with this basic 
 maintenance, the bike actually costs you $800 total. Even for that $800, 
 most of the good parts that were not replaced (including the frame) are 
 still 20 years old, and have an unknown history. And besides that, unless 
 your GF really has her heart set on a RB-T, you've just spent $800 on a 
 bike that you settled for because it was one of very few suitable options 
 available on the local used market. If she doesn't like it after going 
 through all that trouble, you'll be lucky to recoup even a fraction of the 
 extra $$$ you put into fixing it up. 

 For that $800 or a bit more, you could buy a NEW bike with all new parts 
 and a warranty and a LBS that wants you and your GF to be happy customers. 
 Most importantly, the new bike world allows a person to shop around a bit 
 to find a bike he/she really likes, rather than settling for whatever 
 happens to make it to Craigslist. 


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[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes to all of the above. As a bit of a Bridgestone collector, I can say 
with some authority there are two ways to buy an expensive one: Buy and 
expensive one, or buy a cheap one...

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:40:25 AM UTC-7, Frank Brose wrote:

 What Jim says is well worth considering. I don't know how much I have in 
 mine but I know it would be way north of $800 if I would have bought 
 everything new (might be anyhow).  I had it repainted and had used parts I 
 on hand that I used and it still cost me a fair amount of money . The used 
 parts cost me something at some point in time and new cables,chain, 
 tire,tubes,ect. all add up. I also have enough parts that I knew if I 
 didn't like the setup I could always change it's hairdo That being said 
 it's still one of my favorite bikes but then again it fits me and I like 
 the ride. If I were fiscally responsible when it comes to bicycles. I 
 probably would have never pursued it. But I'm not.
  
 On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:01:07 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 wrote:

 No comment particular to the RB-T, but of old, used bikes in general. 
 IME, you can spend a load of $$$ on a used bike chasing an unattainable 
 dream. At a minimum: unless the bike is a garage-queen formerly owned by an 
 OCD type, or you happen to be a decent wrench yourself and have a garage 
 full of good parts, you're probably going to have to spend a small fortune 
 at the LBS replacing things that are worn out. Chain, cassette, 
 crank/chainring(s), brake pads, bar-tape, cables, tires, and who knows what 
 else, along with a tune-up/overhaul...could easily run to $300 or even $500 
 (even with mediocre replacement parts) at a LBS. As a best-case scenario, 
 I'm not including stuff like cracked/bent rims or screwed up hubs or a 
 stuck seatpost or a handlebar/stem that Nitto says you should replace every 
 5 years (or when your GF needs a different bar/stem for comfort)...things 
 that can run into big money. So, let's say that, with this basic 
 maintenance, the bike actually costs you $800 total. Even for that $800, 
 most of the good parts that were not replaced (including the frame) are 
 still 20 years old, and have an unknown history. And besides that, unless 
 your GF really has her heart set on a RB-T, you've just spent $800 on a 
 bike that you settled for because it was one of very few suitable options 
 available on the local used market. If she doesn't like it after going 
 through all that trouble, you'll be lucky to recoup even a fraction of the 
 extra $$$ you put into fixing it up. 

 For that $800 or a bit more, you could buy a NEW bike with all new parts 
 and a warranty and a LBS that wants you and your GF to be happy customers. 
 Most importantly, the new bike world allows a person to shop around a bit 
 to find a bike he/she really likes, rather than settling for whatever 
 happens to make it to Craigslist. 



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[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Scot Brooks
It's amazing how on-the-money you are, Jim. It's almost like you were able 
to see exactly how much I spent resurrecting my brother's old Bridgestone. 
While I *do *want some perfect example of...something to come along, I also 
appreciate your point. The practical bike market is pretty great these 
days, and something like a Cross Check or a LHT might be the practical 
choice of practical bikes. 

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights and Theft

2013-04-09 Thread Will
These would probably do the trick...

http://www.bicyclebolts.com/collections/security-allen-bolts

I know this notion offends some bob-types, but a bit of duct tape 
strategically placed on the lights seems to help. Makes them look dingy and 
worn. If the thief thinks your lens cover is about to fall off, they tend 
to move along. At least that's my experience with 2 bikes equipped with 
dynamo systems. 

I see a lot of pretty bikes here. Shiny, expensive bits. Spotlessly clean. 
They are nice. I appreciate them. But I wouldn't park a show-bike at our 
local Trader Joe. 

And I don't see pretty reflected in photos of Grant Petersen's bikes. 
Those bikes have straps and stuff hanging from the bars, un-matched bar 
tape, unmatched shifters, twine shellac'd to the saddle. In general: the 
scruffy look. I don't think Grant's approach is anti-theft, but he's 
certainly not polishing his rims so a thief can see his reflection. 



On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:47:53 AM UTC-5, Claude LaVallee wrote:

 A similar thing happened to me during a trip to the grocery store, also on 
 a busy street, in front of a busy bus stop, and in broad daylight, except 
 the thief tried to get my basket!

 I came out of the grocery store to find that someone had cut 5 of the 8 
 zip ties that held the basket to my front rack. I promptly got some metal 
 plates and screwed my basket to the rack, and also now keep both my basket 
 and the rack locked to my frame with a cable, as a deterrent. My seat post 
 and saddle are locked to my frame too, with a U-lock.

 I'm a fan of pitlock skewers and, as soon as I can afford them, I'm also 
 getting some of those to secure my wheels to the frame (for now I just TiGr 
 lock both wheels to the frame and a bike rack (30 TiGr lock), and back 
 that up with a U-lock).

 Lights are way more valuable than a basket, so I would consider a good 
 pitlock skewer set lock yours onto your bike.

 Good luck, and don't let this stop you from the practical use of your bike!

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:43:19 PM UTC-4, Ryan Ray wrote:

 I came out of my Dr appointment today to find the 5 zip ties holding the 
 wire connecting my dynamo hub to my light removed and the wire dangling. 
 It's just a cheap IQ Fly.

 Is light theft like this common? It was on a busy street in daylight. An 
 Acorn bag was left alone.




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Re: [RBW] my sort of new to me Hunqapillar

2013-04-09 Thread Christian
The Paselas completely transformed the bike.  GB Cypres might be next.  I 
am imagining having a set of Cypres and maybe BG Rock n Roads to swap back 
and forth.  The wheels are Velocity Dyad 36 hole with a Phil Wood in the 
rear and a SON 28 up front.  What's your Hilsen wheel set up?  I'm not 
gonna do much more to optimize the Hunq for brevets; my Terraferma will be 
back in service before too long.  

Best wishes,

Christian 

Charlottesville, VA.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:55:46 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:

 Nice bike, Christian!  I think my Hunqa would do a brevet, in its current 
 config, as well.  When I have it outfitted with similar wheels/tires and 
 bars as my Hilsen, it's a bit stiffer, but a superbly comfortable ride.  
 Nice to know that it is a proven alternate if the Hilsen has an issue 
 pre-ride...

 Brian
 Seattle, WA


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 So back in the fall I bought a Hunqapillar from someone on the list.  I 
 rode it around here and there but nothing more than a few miles at a time. 
  For 99% of my riding I used my 650B Terraferma.  The Hunqapillar was 
 great, but I bought it to ride around town, eventually to tour again, it 
 was a good deal, etc.  

 But then the drive side chainstay on my beloved Terraferma broke!  The 
 Hunqapillar needed to snap to attention.  I swapped over my decaleur and 
 Berthoud bag, head light (it came with a SON hub), converted to drivetrain 
 from 1 X 8 to 3 X 8 (I'd prefer my compact Herse, but did not want to 
 fiddle with it and knew I'd get the Sugino up and running quickly).

 I then headed out for a ride.  I needed to get the bike in shape for this 
 weekend's fleche.  So on Monday I did a mixed terrain century using 
 Marathon Duremes (talk about a workout!), ordered some Paselas, and headed 
 out Saturday morning for the fleche.  I developed some hip pain--something 
 that's crept up before and had been solved, I think, by my low q Herse 
 crank--and had to abandon. But not before getting in a 200k.  

 The Hunqapillar was to be my Hunqafleche but since I did not finish I 
 cannot christen it a full rando bike yet.  It performed well, however.  The 
 Paselas make it look like a skinny tire bike! Here's a few photos: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157633184218583/with/
 8627620295/
  
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco Bullmoose 58 $115; Marathon Duremes + tubes $60; Oury grips $10--all plus shipping

2013-04-09 Thread Christian
Bars have been sold.  

On Sunday, April 7, 2013 1:00:50 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 --Bosco Bullmoose 58cm bar in excellent shape.  $115 plus shipping 

 --one pair Schwalbe folding Marathon Duremes plus tubes, 700 x 50, in 
 excellent shape.   $60 plus shipping 

 --one pair Oury grips, black, $10 plus shipping 

 Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157633188790126/

 If these prices are out of line let me know.  I can be flexible, but 
 please be reasonable.   

 PayPal please.  

 Thanks, 

 Christian 


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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Eric Platt
Agreeing with the other folks here.  I've come close a few times over the
past few years to buying an older bike.  Once I've sat down and figured out
how much would be spent, have decided it wasn't worth the effort.

The other thing (and this is not a rub on the RB-T) but a lot of the older
bikes don't take the tire widths I need.  As Jim Thill is well aware, came
close to buying an older Miyata touring bike.  Once I looked and figured
out the bike might be able to fit 28s with fenders that idea went out the
window.
 Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


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 It's amazing how on-the-money you are, Jim. It's almost like you were able
 to see exactly how much I spent resurrecting my brother's old Bridgestone.
 While I *do *want some perfect example of...something to come along, I
 also appreciate your point. The practical bike market is pretty great these
 days, and something like a Cross Check or a LHT might be the practical
 choice of practical bikes.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights and Theft

2013-04-09 Thread Eric Platt
Have not seen light theft around here, but one can never tell what will can
and will be stolen from a bike.  Had been thinking about installing the
Pitlock set I have on the Hillborne.  Maybe I should be safe rather than
sorry.
 Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote:

 These would probably do the trick...

 http://www.bicyclebolts.com/collections/security-allen-bolts

 I know this notion offends some bob-types, but a bit of duct tape
 strategically placed on the lights seems to help. Makes them look dingy and
 worn. If the thief thinks your lens cover is about to fall off, they tend
 to move along. At least that's my experience with 2 bikes equipped with
 dynamo systems.

 I see a lot of pretty bikes here. Shiny, expensive bits. Spotlessly clean.
 They are nice. I appreciate them. But I wouldn't park a show-bike at our
 local Trader Joe.

 And I don't see pretty reflected in photos of Grant Petersen's bikes.
 Those bikes have straps and stuff hanging from the bars, un-matched bar
 tape, unmatched shifters, twine shellac'd to the saddle. In general: the
 scruffy look. I don't think Grant's approach is anti-theft, but he's
 certainly not polishing his rims so a thief can see his reflection.



 On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:47:53 AM UTC-5, Claude LaVallee wrote:

 A similar thing happened to me during a trip to the grocery store, also
 on a busy street, in front of a busy bus stop, and in broad daylight,
 except the thief tried to get my basket!

 I came out of the grocery store to find that someone had cut 5 of the 8
 zip ties that held the basket to my front rack. I promptly got some metal
 plates and screwed my basket to the rack, and also now keep both my basket
 and the rack locked to my frame with a cable, as a deterrent. My seat post
 and saddle are locked to my frame too, with a U-lock.

 I'm a fan of pitlock skewers and, as soon as I can afford them, I'm also
 getting some of those to secure my wheels to the frame (for now I just TiGr
 lock both wheels to the frame and a bike rack (30 TiGr lock), and back
 that up with a U-lock).

 Lights are way more valuable than a basket, so I would consider a good
 pitlock skewer set lock yours onto your bike.

 Good luck, and don't let this stop you from the practical use of your
 bike!

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:43:19 PM UTC-4, Ryan Ray wrote:

 I came out of my Dr appointment today to find the 5 zip ties holding the
 wire connecting my dynamo hub to my light removed and the wire dangling.
 It's just a cheap IQ Fly.

 Is light theft like this common? It was on a busy street in daylight. An
 Acorn bag was left alone.


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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights and Theft

2013-04-09 Thread Eric
On my Indy Fab touring bike that I had set up with a dynamo front wheel I 
used a SuperNova light mount for my Edelux. I swapped out the standand bolt 
on the front (that threaded through the Edelux bracket) and put my Pitlock 
on there. I used the Pitlock for the seat collar. It worked pretty well but 
was difficult to get enough torque to secure it. It was somewhat of a 
hassle but it gave me piece of mind.

Now my piece of mind is never locking my bikes up outside unless I have to. 
I live in Chicago so that might add to that mindset. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread William
I never go out looking for a used bike, but when the perfect used bike 
opportunity finds me, I am often ready to take advantage

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:34:16 AM UTC-7, EricP wrote:

 Agreeing with the other folks here.  I've come close a few times over the 
 past few years to buying an older bike.  Once I've sat down and figured out 
 how much would be spent, have decided it wasn't worth the effort.  
  
 The other thing (and this is not a rub on the RB-T) but a lot of the older 
 bikes don't take the tire widths I need.  As Jim Thill is well aware, came 
 close to buying an older Miyata touring bike.  Once I looked and figured 
 out the bike might be able to fit 28s with fenders that idea went out the 
 window.
   Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Scot Brooks scothi...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 It's amazing how on-the-money you are, Jim. It's almost like you were 
 able to see exactly how much I spent resurrecting my brother's old 
 Bridgestone. While I *do *want some perfect example of...something to 
 come along, I also appreciate your point. The practical bike market is 
 pretty great these days, and something like a Cross Check or a LHT might be 
 the practical choice of practical bikes.  
  
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RE: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
So your perception is that used bike opportunities go looking for you?

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

I never go out looking for a used bike, but when the perfect used bike 
opportunity finds me, I am often ready to take advantage

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:34:16 AM UTC-7, EricP wrote:
Agreeing with the other folks here.  I've come close a few times over the past 
few years to buying an older bike.  Once I've sat down and figured out how much 
would be spent, have decided it wasn't worth the effort.

The other thing (and this is not a rub on the RB-T) but a lot of the older 
bikes don't take the tire widths I need.  As Jim Thill is well aware, came 
close to buying an older Miyata touring bike.  Once I looked and figured out 
the bike might be able to fit 28s with fenders that idea went out the window.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Scot Brooks scothi...@gmail.comjavascript: 
wrote:
It's amazing how on-the-money you are, Jim. It's almost like you were able to 
see exactly how much I spent resurrecting my brother's old Bridgestone. While I 
do want some perfect example of...something to come along, I also appreciate 
your point. The practical bike market is pretty great these days, and something 
like a Cross Check or a LHT might be the practical choice of practical bikes.
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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Interesting discussion. I've had great fun, great chagrin, and great
expense trying to achieve silk purse perfection out of sows' ear beaters.
OTOH, I've sold some such beaters and, afterward, regretted doing so. But
on the whole, I've learned that, unless the cheap find is exceptional --
either exceptionally good or exceptionally cheap, it's not a good way to
spend your money. But this sort of buy/rehab/try/sell-at-loss has at least
given me experience with many bikes.

Now my brother, OTOH, goes through at least a dozen bikes a year -- at one
point he had so many that he would lose bikes, frames groups, inside his
very large garage that was packed floor to rafters, front to back, and side
to side, leaving only a little gap near the door for his workspace. And
this number includes only those he buys for his own interest, not those
other dozens he buys merely to flip (tho' he ends up flipping many of the
former category, too). Since he's much less picky about what he likes, and
knows his stuff, he does manage to find excellent bikes and still come out
way ahead financially - a sort of self-supporting acquisition addiction.

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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Lights and Theft

2013-04-09 Thread Michael Williams
Sorry about your light getting stolen,   anything stolen off of your bike
feels personal.   My antitheft device is a ball bearing and some Gorilla
Glue in the hex head.   The glue sets pretty hard,  and Ive tried getting
it out myself as if I were a thief.   To actually get it out,  I have to
heat it up a bit with a lighter or any heat source I would imagine.  If i
were out riding and I needed to adjust my saddle or something on my light,
 Id be a bit out of luck.   My thing is to just deter someone from stealing
things off your bike because it might take too long.Maybe its stopped
someone before,  or maybe Ive just been really luck.   Sorry about your
light.   -Mike


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gosh, that stinks, this is a fear of mine as i have an edelux and a
 supernova and like you i ride my bike to normal places like the doctor,
 store etc.  It truly sucks, and there are a few things you can do to ward
 this off (use security bolts instead of normal allen ones, stick wax or
 glue in the bolt heads to make it harder to undo).  But nothing is 100%
 fool-proof if someone really wants it.

 But in the end, we can't live in fear and our bikes are made to be
 used/enjoyed, so don't let this dissuade you from replacing it and riding
 on!

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights and Theft

2013-04-09 Thread jeffrey kane
Genius resource on the Security Bolt site, Will ... many thanks for that!


On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:43:19 PM UTC-4, Ryan Ray wrote:

 I came out of my Dr appointment today to find the 5 zip ties holding the 
 wire connecting my dynamo hub to my light removed and the wire dangling. 
 It's just a cheap IQ Fly.

 Is light theft like this common? It was on a busy street in daylight. An 
 Acorn bag was left alone.




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[RBW] Re: Moustache vs. Noodle bar reach overlay with pics

2013-04-09 Thread Hoffsta
It's nice to see I'm not the only one who likes the Mustache long and low. 
I tried it up higher and closer but couldn't dig, man.

Sean
Eugene OR

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread William
Absolutely they go looking for me.  All I do is keep my eyes and ears open. 
 

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:07:31 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  So your perception is that used bike opportunities “go looking for you”?

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *William
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:04 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

  

 I never go out looking for a used bike, but when the perfect used bike 
 opportunity finds me, I am often ready to take advantage

 On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:34:16 AM UTC-7, EricP wrote:
  
 Agreeing with the other folks here.  I've come close a few times over the 
 past few years to buying an older bike.  Once I've sat down and figured out 
 how much would be spent, have decided it wasn't worth the effort.  
  
  
  
 The other thing (and this is not a rub on the RB-T) but a lot of the older 
 bikes don't take the tire widths I need.  As Jim Thill is well aware, came 
 close to buying an older Miyata touring bike.  Once I looked and figured 
 out the bike might be able to fit 28s with fenders that idea went out the 
 window.

 Eric Platt
  
 St. Paul, MN
   
  
  
 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Scot Brooks scothi...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's amazing how on-the-money you are, Jim. It's almost like you were able 
 to see exactly how much I spent resurrecting my brother's old Bridgestone. 
 While I *do *want some perfect example of...something to come along, I 
 also appreciate your point. The practical bike market is pretty great these 
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[RBW] Saluki stuff

2013-04-09 Thread Bruce Herbitter
The question earlier about Pea Sage Green got me hunting down the actual
color name for the early Saluki (Yellow Olive) but a crawl through old
pages showed up something I missed until now.  This little tidbit:  
Yes, you can use 700c or (on the centerpull version) mountain bike 26-inch
wheels, but the frame is designed for 650Bs, and the others should be
regarded as life-or-death options for escaping mean cowboys in
middle-of-the-desert saloons, after you flatten their tires and scatter
their horses.

 If mine were a center pull model, you can be sure I'd beat a path to the
garage to play musical wheel sets and see how the rides compare.  I've
always liked it as a 650B though. Loved it as I toodled on down to City
Hall yesterday to meet the mayor (and talk bike stuff for our little town)
and chained it up to the fence there. In fact, I don't have a 700 wheel
bike at all anymore.

Tailwinds

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Scot Brooks
And, in perfect harmony with William's statement, up pops a lovely Waterford on 
Seattle CL. Thank goodness it's not my size :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?

2013-04-09 Thread Tom Goodmann
yeah, thank goodness about the size! that Waterford looks like a good deal.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!

2013-04-09 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
My Kojaks on Open Pros measured 32 mm. However, it was a taller 32 mm
compared to the 32 Paselas, which were flatter tires of similar width.  I
preferred the 32 Paselas to the Kojaks on the Ram--maybe because I was used
to the Paselas and the Kojaks were different enough for me to notice it.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] ISO Small Tweed Trunksack

2013-04-09 Thread Peter Morgano
Bump here, I just called and they said there is no timetable for the Tweed
but green Canvas should be in next month. As I am incredibly impatient if
anyone has a green or tweed for sale I am in the market. Thanks.


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:

 My anniversary is coming up and I was given the go ahead to get more bike
 bags as I am in need of a small trunk sack. They are out of stock on the
 Riv site so thought I would see if any serial bag hoarders wanted to sell a
 tweed trunksack small. Yes I know I owned one last year and sold it, but
 such is life. I dont really care if its the old or new style, just as long
 as it is in nice condition. Thanks all.

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[RBW] Re: Hey I know this tall fello

2013-04-09 Thread Amit Singh
Thanks for the shout-out Manny.  Great meeting you too Nick!

Here's a link that works:

http://flic.kr/p/e9PpLw

and another riding the DandylaBomba:

http://flic.kr/p/e9Hqkk

On Monday, 8 April 2013 20:57:05 UTC-4, Nick Worthington wrote:

 I was there!  Really nice to meet, and talk with, Amit!  
  
 Nick 

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 3:24:32 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Checking out flickr I found this guy during the Sac Tweed Ride... 
 http://flic.kr/p/e9HvEp





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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th

2013-04-09 Thread keven@rivendell
Forgot to mention...

We will be leaving Rivendell HQ at 4pm, so meet here by at least 3:30.

We'll be back at Riv HQ by noon on Sunday.

Cheers,

keven


On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:59:03 PM UTC-7, keven@rivendell wrote:

 Hello All-
 We will be hosting a Spring Camp Out this Saturday, April 27th in the 
 Shell Ridge/ Mt. Diablo area.

 If you'd like to join us, shoot me, Keven, an email (ke...@rivbike.com) 
 to let me know.

 We're limiting the group size to 12 folks.  Myself and at least one other 
 Riv employee will join us.

 You're on your own with food, bikes, gear, etc. but can arrange to borrow 
 a demo bike and even demo camping gear if arranged ahead of time.  It's a 
 great opportunity to try out something new!

 The charge is $50 to cover our camp site, some low-carb snack food, and 
 gets you a $25 Rivendell credit to be used within 30 days.

 Hope you can join us!
 -keven


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!

2013-04-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Interesting take on the Kojaks. They felt fast on the Fargo, but now, on
the Ram, which feels and fits more like the customs, the Kojaks feel a bit
sluggish: odd because the 559 ones on the '03 don't give me that impression.

Too many variables to count, I suppose, but once money is available, I will
give the K's back to the Fargo and buy some nice Compass tires, God willing.

Just 11 miles today on the Ram, on a detour'd PO run -- windy, cold, and
wettish -- even a bit of sleet!

Raised the saddle a wee bit; may drop the bar a wee bit, too. (Must play
racer. No, really, to make the hoods a bit more comfortable.)

On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Kojaks on Open Pros measured 32 mm. However, it was a taller 32 mm
 compared to the 32 Paselas, which were flatter tires of similar width.  I
 preferred the 32 Paselas to the Kojaks on the Ram--maybe because I was used
 to the Paselas and the Kojaks were different enough for me to notice it.

 Toshi


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th

2013-04-09 Thread Liesl
Dang I wish I were joining you!  xxoo RCW, MD

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights and Theft

2013-04-09 Thread Liesl
Oh I'm so sorry, ryan.

One way I hope to avoid this is...I have a SuperNova E3 and I set it up on 
my bars with their handlebar mount.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp (scroll down for the mount)

I used a set of gold connectors from P White near the light.  with this 
set-up, I can disconnect the light, remove it from the bars, and put it in 
my pocket in less time then it takes to write this sentence.  works well.

-liesl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!

2013-04-09 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Kojaks feel great on the Roadeo, but have not tried Paselas with the
Roadeo...

Toshi



On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting take on the Kojaks. They felt fast on the Fargo, but now, on
 the Ram, which feels and fits more like the customs, the Kojaks feel a bit
 sluggish: odd because the 559 ones on the '03 don't give me that impression.

 Too many variables to count, I suppose, but once money is available, I
 will give the K's back to the Fargo and buy some nice Compass tires, God
 willing.

 Just 11 miles today on the Ram, on a detour'd PO run -- windy, cold, and
 wettish -- even a bit of sleet!

 Raised the saddle a wee bit; may drop the bar a wee bit, too. (Must play
 racer. No, really, to make the hoods a bit more comfortable.)

 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Kojaks on Open Pros measured 32 mm. However, it was a taller 32 mm
 compared to the 32 Paselas, which were flatter tires of similar width.  I
 preferred the 32 Paselas to the Kojaks on the Ram--maybe because I was used
 to the Paselas and the Kojaks were different enough for me to notice it.

 Toshi


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[RBW] Hetre gash: to replace or not replace?

2013-04-09 Thread john muhl
If these weren't brand new I'd replace it without second thought but the 
thought of chucking a $70 tire with such low milage on it makes my inner 
cheapskate go crazy. What say the wisdom of the group? Replace or 
not? http://goo.gl/2AY9i

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[RBW] Re: Hetre gash: to replace or not replace?

2013-04-09 Thread C.J. Filip
Patch the tire itself.  Keep an eye on it.   No way I would throw it away 
either.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:53:23 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:

 If these weren't brand new I'd replace it without second thought but the 
 thought of chucking a $70 tire with such low milage on it makes my inner 
 cheapskate go crazy. What say the wisdom of the group? Replace or not? 
 http://goo.gl/2AY9i

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th

2013-04-09 Thread Stephen S
It looks like my previous post to the group has been lost. Well, that or I 
am being moderated

I am signed up for the Spring Camp. Were there any other folks from the 
south bay who are signed up?  Anne, Rene? 
Hopefully we could get a carpool going. If not, maybe we can do a group 
ride to the Fremont Bart if that worked well for Anne last time.

Stephen

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:45:08 PM UTC-7, keven@rivendell wrote:

 Forgot to mention...

 We will be leaving Rivendell HQ at 4pm, so meet here by at least 3:30.

 We'll be back at Riv HQ by noon on Sunday.

 Cheers,

 keven


 On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:59:03 PM UTC-7, keven@rivendell wrote:

 Hello All-
 We will be hosting a Spring Camp Out this Saturday, April 27th in the 
 Shell Ridge/ Mt. Diablo area.

 If you'd like to join us, shoot me, Keven, an email 
 (ke...@rivbike.comjavascript:) 
 to let me know.

 We're limiting the group size to 12 folks.  Myself and at least one other 
 Riv employee will join us.

 You're on your own with food, bikes, gear, etc. but can arrange to borrow 
 a demo bike and even demo camping gear if arranged ahead of time.  It's a 
 great opportunity to try out something new!

 The charge is $50 to cover our camp site, some low-carb snack food, and 
 gets you a $25 Rivendell credit to be used within 30 days.

 Hope you can join us!
 -keven



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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th

2013-04-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
I think it does if you ride there

Fuel (food) cost from Colorado is likely not included. Sigh. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 8, 2013 8:21:01 PM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 I think it does if you ride there...

 - J

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 6:00:29 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 $50 bucks doesn't include transport to Riv HQ, does it? Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, April 8, 2013 1:59:03 PM UTC-6, keven@rivendell wrote:

 Hello All-
 We will be hosting a Spring Camp Out this Saturday, April 27th in the 
 Shell Ridge/ Mt. Diablo area.

 If you'd like to join us, shoot me, Keven, an email (ke...@rivbike.com) 
 to let me know.

 We're limiting the group size to 12 folks.  Myself and at least one 
 other Riv employee will join us.

 You're on your own with food, bikes, gear, etc. but can arrange to 
 borrow a demo bike and even demo camping gear if arranged ahead of time. 
  It's a great opportunity to try out something new!

 The charge is $50 to cover our camp site, some low-carb snack food, and 
 gets you a $25 Rivendell credit to be used within 30 days.

 Hope you can join us!
 -keven



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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 64 cm Atlantis - custom blue

2013-04-09 Thread Kelly

The price seems to cheap to me.   Then again maybe that's why my Quickbeam 
didn't sell I wanted to much for it.   Pretty bike good luck on the sale. 

Kelly




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[RBW] Re: Hetre gash: to replace or not replace?

2013-04-09 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I wouldn't hesitate to ride that tire. I probably wouldn't do anything to 
patch it even, but if a patch gives you more confidence, do it. 
--Smitty

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:53:23 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:

 If these weren't brand new I'd replace it without second thought but the 
 thought of chucking a $70 tire with such low milage on it makes my inner 
 cheapskate go crazy. What say the wisdom of the group? Replace or not? 
 http://goo.gl/2AY9i

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th

2013-04-09 Thread René Sterental
Stephen,

I also signed up and am clearing out some logistics around my son's Water
Polo tournaments on that Saturday and Sunday. As the dates get closer and
we have information on the games, I'll know exactly how easy it will be for
me to offer carpooling from the Peninsula. My capacity will be, in addition
to my bike, one additional fendered (or not) bike in the rear rack plus two
nonfendered ones on the roof racks.

René


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote:

 It looks like my previous post to the group has been lost. Well, that or I
 am being moderated

 I am signed up for the Spring Camp. Were there any other folks from the
 south bay who are signed up?  Anne, Rene?
 Hopefully we could get a carpool going. If not, maybe we can do a group
 ride to the Fremont Bart if that worked well for Anne last time.

 Stephen

 On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:45:08 PM UTC-7, keven@rivendell wrote:

 Forgot to mention...

 We will be leaving Rivendell HQ at 4pm, so meet here by at least 3:30.

 We'll be back at Riv HQ by noon on Sunday.

 Cheers,

 keven


 On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:59:03 PM UTC-7, keven@rivendell wrote:

 Hello All-
 We will be hosting a Spring Camp Out this Saturday, April 27th in the
 Shell Ridge/ Mt. Diablo area.

 If you'd like to join us, shoot me, Keven, an email (ke...@rivbike.com)
 to let me know.

 We're limiting the group size to 12 folks.  Myself and at least one
 other Riv employee will join us.

 You're on your own with food, bikes, gear, etc. but can arrange to
 borrow a demo bike and even demo camping gear if arranged ahead of time.
  It's a great opportunity to try out something new!

 The charge is $50 to cover our camp site, some low-carb snack food, and
 gets you a $25 Rivendell credit to be used within 30 days.

 Hope you can join us!
 -keven

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[RBW] Re: First Generation Bosco's

2013-04-09 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Excellent Pic.  

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:58:55 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 Well friends, imagine my surprise when I found this photo taken by my 
 grandfather in about 1932.  The girl on the right bicycle is my mother; the 
 little guy up in the tree is her brother and the other girl is her sister.  
 The boy on the Early Double Top-Tube Riv with the first bullmoose top-tube 
 prototype Bosco's is a mystery.  So now it all makes sense:  it's genetic!

 Riv Chica Warrior, Jr.




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[RBW] OT but Riv content: B-stone CB-0

2013-04-09 Thread C.J. Filip
From a local LBS, great shop.  No affiliation with the shop other than 
being an infrequent customer.  

http://pullman.craigslist.org/bid/3671050042.html

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[RBW] FS: 57cm handmade frameset by RRB Cycles with Centaur group and Record/Velocity wheelset

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
My apologies for crossposting from the iBOB list. This bike might be OT, 
but it is a handmade bike with generous clearances and certainly Rivly. I 
thought some of you might be interested in a bike I have for sale. 

Frame: 57cm square. Henry James lugs and fork crown. Campagnolo drop outs. 
Cenelli BB, oversized TT and chainstays. This is pretty much a century 
special: Clearance for 27s Paris Roubaix tires, low bb height, and stable 
geometry. Frameset comes with matching Slica frame pump.

Group: 2009 Centaur. Like-new condition. This is the best Centaur group 
with the older Ultrashift internals with the new body shape. Skeleton 
brakes. Compact crank. 13-26 cassette.

Wheelset: 1st gen 9/10sp Record hubs to Velocity Aerohead Deep-V's. Campy 
skewers included. Currently equipped with Paris Roubaix tires.

Other parts: Gran Compe seatpost and stem. Nitto Grand Rando bars. Brooks 
tape. Chorus headset.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6911603126_6b30f80c97_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6911603126_6b30f80c97_b.jpg

Looking for $1200 complete. I'd also consider parting out the group or 
frameset for $500 each and wheelset for $300

*Saddle and pedals not included.*

Reply off list for more pictures and details. Buyer pays shipping if 
needed. 

Hope you like it!
Kevin Mulcahy,
Chicago, IL

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[RBW] Re: First Generation Bosco's

2013-04-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ancestral memory! I love it!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:58:55 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:

 Well friends, imagine my surprise when I found this photo taken by my 
 grandfather in about 1932.  The girl on the right bicycle is my mother; the 
 little guy up in the tree is her brother and the other girl is her sister.  
 The boy on the Early Double Top-Tube Riv with the first bullmoose top-tube 
 prototype Bosco's is a mystery.  So now it all makes sense:  it's genetic!

 Riv Chica Warrior, Jr.




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[RBW] Saluki stuff

2013-04-09 Thread justinaugust
Here I sit. A Saluki. With side pulls. And a 700c Rich built wheelset 
downstairs. Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm. 

I'm more interested in the 26 honestly. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Saluki stuff

2013-04-09 Thread James Warren

I'm guessing you'd use short-reach sidepulls with the 700c wheels. It's like 
the opposite of a 650B conversion of a late 80's road bike.


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Here I sit. A Saluki. With side pulls. And a 700c Rich built wheelset 
downstairs. Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm. 

I'm more interested in the 26 honestly. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Saluki stuff

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep. There is/was a 650b Hilsen staff bike at Riv converted to 700c wheels 
and short-reach brakes.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 5:10:45 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I'm guessing you'd use short-reach sidepulls with the 700c wheels. It's 
 like the opposite of a 650B conversion of a late 80's road bike. 


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 Here I sit. A Saluki. With side pulls. And a 700c Rich built wheelset 
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 I'm more interested in the 26 honestly. 
  
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[RBW] Re: First Generation Bosco's

2013-04-09 Thread Alex Moll
Neato!

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Re: [RBW] Saluki stuff

2013-04-09 Thread justinaugust
Any 26 successes?

-J

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Re: [RBW] Hetre gash: to replace or not replace?

2013-04-09 Thread Joan Oppel
I have patched similar cuts in tires and ridden many many more miles on them (100's at least if not thousands). If you're really concerned, take an old tire and cut out a small section to use as a patch. It can be held in place with just the tube or with a couple of small pieces of duct tape.JoanOn 04/09/13, john muhljohnm...@gmail.com wrote:If these weren't brand new I'd replace it without second thought but the thought of chucking a $70 tire with such low milage on it makes my inner cheapskate go crazy. What say the wisdom of the group? Replace or not?http://goo.gl/2AY9i-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



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Re: [RBW] First Generation Bosco's

2013-04-09 Thread jimD
Cool photo!
Thanks,
JimD

On Apr 9, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Well friends, imagine my surprise when I found this photo taken by my 
 grandfather in about 1932.  The girl on the right bicycle is my mother; the 
 little guy up in the tree is her brother and the other girl is her sister.  
 The boy on the Early Double Top-Tube Riv with the first bullmoose top-tube 
 prototype Bosco's is a mystery.  So now it all makes sense:  it's genetic!
 
 Riv Chica Warrior, Jr.
 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: First Generation Bosco's

2013-04-09 Thread Norman


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mXwLBO-Vd84/UWTI9j8OuTI/C0g/MMFfQMhBmfU/s1600/Sol+and+Kids+-1950%27s..JPG

I'm not sure how this scanned photo will turn out but that's me on those 
old time handlebars in Newark, NJ 1950's.

Norman


On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 5:58:55 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

 Well friends, imagine my surprise when I found this photo taken by my 
 grandfather in about 1932.  The girl on the right bicycle is my mother; the 
 little guy up in the tree is her brother and the other girl is her sister.  
 The boy on the Early Double Top-Tube Riv with the first bullmoose top-tube 
 prototype Bosco's is a mystery.  So now it all makes sense:  it's genetic!

 Riv Chica Warrior, Jr.




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Re: [RBW] Saluki stuff

2013-04-09 Thread C.J. Filip
Have a freshly built 26 wheel with WI ENO eccentric hub.  Single speed 
Saluki?!  Will try it.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 5:52:35 PM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any 26 successes?

 -J


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[RBW] Re: Hetre gash: to replace or not replace?

2013-04-09 Thread Christian
In the two years I've been riding Hetres I've had several similar gashes with 
no ill effects.  Generally, they've been caused by very small pieces of 
glass--or the gash somehow came first and the glass got in--and so I've had to 
get tweezers and pull the glass out. But the gash itself has never caused a 
problem or grown bigger.  I say: ride on.

Christian 

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[RBW] Re: OT but Riv content: B-stone CB-0

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Bernard
A caveat to anyone considering one of these: It's not light, and that big 
downtube adds to its tank-like feel. It's fine as a basic commuter, but 
although it may be the precursor to the XO series, it doesn't ride like 
them.
 
On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 4:13:59 PM UTC-7, C.J. Filip wrote:

 From a local LBS, great shop.  No affiliation with the shop other than 
 being an infrequent customer.  

 http://pullman.craigslist.org/bid/3671050042.html


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Re: [RBW] Re: OT but Riv content: B-stone CB-0

2013-04-09 Thread cyclotourist
What Joe said. Much better off getting a MB-5 which is already built up
pretty close to that one.
Wouldn't pay more than $150.

Cheers,
David



On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 A caveat to anyone considering one of these: It's not light, and that big
 downtube adds to its tank-like feel. It's fine as a basic commuter, but
 although it may be the precursor to the XO series, it doesn't ride like
 them.

 On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 4:13:59 PM UTC-7, C.J. Filip wrote:

 From a local LBS, great shop.  No affiliation with the shop other than
 being an infrequent customer.

 http://pullman.craigslist.org/**bid/3671050042.htmlhttp://pullman.craigslist.org/bid/3671050042.html

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[RBW] Re: Hetre gash: to replace or not replace?

2013-04-09 Thread Ron Mc
Good idea to patch the tire.  Even if it's a little square of duck tape. 
 You couldn't run that cut with a latex tube - it would blow right through. 
 

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 5:56:33 PM UTC-5, C.J. Filip wrote:

 Patch the tire itself.  Keep an eye on it.   No way I would throw it away 
 either.

 On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:53:23 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:

 If these weren't brand new I'd replace it without second thought but the 
 thought of chucking a $70 tire with such low milage on it makes my inner 
 cheapskate go crazy. What say the wisdom of the group? Replace or not? 
 http://goo.gl/2AY9i



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Re: [RBW] my sort of new to me Hunqapillar

2013-04-09 Thread Brian Hanson
Velocity Synergy and GB Cypres.   Like butter. 

Mobile Brian Hanson

On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Paselas completely transformed the bike.  GB Cypres might be next.  I am 
 imagining having a set of Cypres and maybe BG Rock n Roads to swap back and 
 forth.  The wheels are Velocity Dyad 36 hole with a Phil Wood in the rear and 
 a SON 28 up front.  What's your Hilsen wheel set up?  I'm not gonna do much 
 more to optimize the Hunq for brevets; my Terraferma will be back in service 
 before too long.  
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Christian 
 
 Charlottesville, VA.
 
 On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:55:46 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:
 
 Nice bike, Christian!  I think my Hunqa would do a brevet, in its current 
 config, as well.  When I have it outfitted with similar wheels/tires and 
 bars as my Hilsen, it's a bit stiffer, but a superbly comfortable ride.  
 Nice to know that it is a proven alternate if the Hilsen has an issue 
 pre-ride...
 
 Brian
 Seattle, WA
 
 
 On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Christian christian@gmail.com wrote:
 So back in the fall I bought a Hunqapillar from someone on the list.  I 
 rode it around here and there but nothing more than a few miles at a time.  
 For 99% of my riding I used my 650B Terraferma.  The Hunqapillar was great, 
 but I bought it to ride around town, eventually to tour again, it was a 
 good deal, etc.  
 
 But then the drive side chainstay on my beloved Terraferma broke!  The 
 Hunqapillar needed to snap to attention.  I swapped over my decaleur and 
 Berthoud bag, head light (it came with a SON hub), converted to drivetrain 
 from 1 X 8 to 3 X 8 (I'd prefer my compact Herse, but did not want to 
 fiddle with it and knew I'd get the Sugino up and running quickly).
 
 I then headed out for a ride.  I needed to get the bike in shape for this 
 weekend's fleche.  So on Monday I did a mixed terrain century using 
 Marathon Duremes (talk about a workout!), ordered some Paselas, and headed 
 out Saturday morning for the fleche.  I developed some hip pain--something 
 that's crept up before and had been solved, I think, by my low q Herse 
 crank--and had to abandon. But not before getting in a 200k.  
 
 The Hunqapillar was to be my Hunqafleche but since I did not finish I 
 cannot christen it a full rando bike yet.  It performed well, however.  The 
 Paselas make it look like a skinny tire bike! Here's a few photos: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157633184218583/with/8627620295/
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[RBW] Rivendell phrase game

2013-04-09 Thread Michael Williams
I was riding home on my commute tonight.  It consists a bit of trails and 
pavement.I couldnt help but think how capable Rivendell bikes are.   
Thought it be a fun game to make up phrases about Riv bikes because Im sure 
there are alot of folks out there who are enamored with their bike(s) as I 
am. I'll start   Rivendell Bikes:   Stunningly Capable-Mike

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell phrase game

2013-04-09 Thread Michael


 Rivendell Bicycles: Anybar, anyheight, anytire, anyfender, anywhere...


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell phrase game

2013-04-09 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a Rivvy! Sorry, that's a riff on It's a Duesy!, the old tagline 
for Duesenberg automobiles...I couldn't help myself (yes, the phrase it's 
a doosy started as a car ad. Now you know).

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:36:52 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 I was riding home on my commute tonight.  It consists a bit of trails and 
 pavement.I couldnt help but think how capable Rivendell bikes are.   
 Thought it be a fun game to make up phrases about Riv bikes because Im sure 
 there are alot of folks out there who are enamored with their bike(s) as I 
 am. I'll start   Rivendell Bikes:   Stunningly Capable-Mike

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Blues..

2013-04-09 Thread hsmitham
I like em both! Why choose when you have both :-)

Hugh

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:03:38 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Sam Blue vs. Bleriot Blue:



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[RBW] WTT: My B17 for your Flyer

2013-04-09 Thread Michael
Hi everybody,
 
I have a black B17 Standard for trade:
Black, silver rivets, black rails. Bought new last fall, if I remember 
correctly. A few minor cosmetic marks from use. Nothing that's a big deal. 
I will send as many detailed pics as you like. Carefully proofhided upper 
and lower.
Garage kept on the bike. Pretty much a saddle in its infancy.
 
I like to ride with the handlebars high and think a sprung saddle will take 
the edge off the road bumps. I like the B17 shape, so I figure the Flyer 
will work out nicely.
 
Not sure how this messaging from the group works so I will ask you to email 
me at : john11.2...@gmail.com
 
Thanks

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[RBW] Re: WTT: My B17 for your Flyer

2013-04-09 Thread Michael


 Moderator: Tried to tag it, but keep getting invalid message.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell phrase game

2013-04-09 Thread René Sterental
Rivendell bicycles: Granting you the ride of a lifetime!


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a Rivvy! Sorry, that's a riff on It's a Duesy!, the old tagline
 for Duesenberg automobiles...I couldn't help myself (yes, the phrase it's
 a doosy started as a car ad. Now you know).

 On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:36:52 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 I was riding home on my commute tonight.  It consists a bit of trails and
 pavement.I couldnt help but think how capable Rivendell bikes are.
 Thought it be a fun game to make up phrases about Riv bikes because Im sure
 there are alot of folks out there who are enamored with their bike(s) as I
 am. I'll start   Rivendell Bikes:   Stunningly Capable-Mike

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell phrase game

2013-04-09 Thread Manuel Acosta
Rivendell. Enough said. Period.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:36:52 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 I was riding home on my commute tonight.  It consists a bit of trails and 
 pavement.I couldnt help but think how capable Rivendell bikes are.   
 Thought it be a fun game to make up phrases about Riv bikes because Im sure 
 there are alot of folks out there who are enamored with their bike(s) as I 
 am. I'll start   Rivendell Bikes:   Stunningly Capable-Mike

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