I actually like the look of the AWOL more than the Niner. Disappointingly
pinner 42mm tires, though. 60mm is where it's at.
Jeff Jones spaceframe for me, please. And/or a Roadeo with electronic
shifting hacked for half-step shifting (discover new and old-new things at
the same time).
More
Good to know, thanks.
I tried measuring, but I'm not too confident in my plastic ruler and less
than perfect eyeballing skills. Best I could tell its ~46 mm from the
middle of the seat tube to the inner face of the middle chain ring. I'm
sure it'll be fine.
Jay
On Thursday, June 26, 2014
And what is this paragon that Bill is so infatuated with?
On 06/25/2014 10:37 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
The BB drop on the larger models is perfect for a 650b conversion...
-J
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Most (all?) of us have a strong
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 5:19:41 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
A Custom Frame of course ! Something like the diagatube 60cm. Bombadil
or Appaloosa but as a Mixte, without the TT. With 3 bottle holders and all
the braze on fixins.
Hey . . it's as modern as modern can get !
Garth's
Interesting. Thinking about my own bikes (700c Surly LHT, 26 Surly Trucker
DeLuxe, old 26 GT Karakoram), I see a blending of the influences of three
men: Grant Petersen, Jan Heine, and Peter White. It has been argued that
the Surly LHT geometry was broadly derived from the Atlantis; whether
LOL!
For the record: My Grant-designed (just for me!) road bikes are my design
benchmarks. (But I keep my bars properly low.)
On the Lovely Bicycle blog's current entry, there is a formally unrelated
but materially quite pertinent discussion about bar height and overall
bicycle design, to which
I've never ridden a Roadeo; hell, I've never been close to a Roadeo. But
from my experience with Grant's designs, I'd have to say that my targets
for fleet inflation, in order of desire, are the Roadeo and the
Hunquapillar.
I don't know if these meet the thoroughly criterion.
On Wed, Jun 25,
Yes!
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Modern. what's this word mean? Modern. Siri, define modern. Grin.
With abandon,
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Jay -- chainline is no more important for a 1X1 than for a 3xN. With modern
flexible chains and long chainstays, a cm either way is of little
consequence.
Some years ago when I emailed Grant to fret about chainline, he replied
that, if I am putting in enough miles with an off-center chainline
A couple of times, I've caught myself drooling over custom Ti gravel
grinders. Seven makes some really attractive ones, and there's a
local-ish-to-me builder in Guelph, ON called True North. He builds
modern-styled steel and Ti bikes, including SS coupled Ti tandems (!) His
style is certainly
Steve
That's a Niner RLT9. As pictured, it's their 4-star build, which
reportedly is a 19lb bike.
RLT stands for Road Less Travelled. I wonder how many of the folks at
Niner are up to speed on their Frost?
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 3:47:49 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
And what is
Roadeo.
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On my recent Sierra to the Sea tour, I stopped off at a bike shop that
catered to the more racey crowd. It appeared to sell only carbon fiber
bikes. And I think maybe the employees were not always keeping their
customer's actual needs in mind.
As I was waiting for a riding companion to get his
Do you ride with a front load? My pressures are optimized for a few pounds
directly over the front axle via the handlebar bag. Also Anne's comment
about descents is absolutely true-- whether in an aero tuck or feathering
the brakes from the drops, with my butt weight lifted off the saddle,
And a good dousing with listerine.
Anton
ridingthecatskills.com
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 6:12:12 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
Be sure to brush the bags first.
–Eric N
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On Jun 25, 2014, at 6:56 AM, Anton Tutter atu...@gmail.com
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And
I've overhead similar pitches more than once. Common variants include
Once you get used to the riding position, it's really quite comfortable
and This gearing is fine once you get into shape. I think it's selling
what's on the floor regardless of customer need. It seems the young, fit
shop
The gearing is fine once you get in shape is my pet peeve. New riders
ought to buy a bike for their real selves, not their fantasy selves. This
guy was a Clydesdale. He should have been sold a bike appropriate for him--
but I didn't see any such bikes in this shop. Oddly, a door away was a bike
Did I miss something? Or is this blug post a tease? Another mythical
character name for a bike, I'm guessing. Anyone know anything they can
share?
I chuckled at the comment about it resembling a manhole cover. The design
looked familiar.
dougP
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UPDATE: New version of the patch.
If you were holding off on getting a patch because of the ugly stem and
cranks, I fixed the artwork.
This is what will be made: http://etsy.me/1ycii2f
It looks really good - I'm super happy with the work.
Teeshirt blanks and artwork is at the printers today,
I am reminded of hanging out at a LBS one Sunday afternoon and watching a
young sales person try to sell a full suspension mountain bike to a middle
age women buying her first bike and wanting something for bike paths and
Vt's many dirt roads! I had to bite my tongue.
Michael
On Thursday,
I don't understand the tongue biting. Why not find a moment and say
something to the customer, quietly? Just something short and sweet to let
them know there are other options? A shop that doesn't lose customers
because they don't offer options won't add those options in the future, a
shop
The customers I see coming out of my local Trek bike shop with their newly
purchased bikes make my mouth drop.
One more reason to be happy you either own a Riv or at least know about
Riv.
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:49:53 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
On my recent Sierra to the Sea
Hey Jim. I'll be there on Saturday with 4 friends. That'll add a Quickbeam,
2 Bleriots, a SamH, and an RB-T to the mix. We're not sure if we'll be
camping that night yet. But, even if we didn't, I'd imagine we'd hang out
at the campfire into the evening.
Best,
Lee
SF, CA
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at
Oh. Hmm. It'd be nice if some more women would show up. Come on, women!
It'll be great.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
Here are the good Shire folk who have RSVP'ed so far, with the volunteers
listed first. I have not listed all of the RBW staff who are
This Niner RLT 9 is a cool bike no doubt. It tugs at several of my strings.
I've gone back and looked at it several times. Did it again today having
read this post. I went and looked at Bike Rumors review Bike Rumor Niner
RLT 9 Review
My group contains one woman!
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com
wrote:
Oh. Hmm. It'd be nice if some more women would show up. Come on, women!
It'll be great.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
Here are the good Shire
Bill and Leslie , Yes Yes Yes ! Getting very warm !I've never
ridden a mixte, let alone a 60cm one with a nice tall front end . I'd like
a bit taller than my 60cm. Bombadil, and with possibly a bit lower trail
and even more front-center distance. Longer chainstays possibly also !
As
I recently put on some Vittoria Voyager/Hyper tires in the 38c size on
the Bombadil . . . and oh how sweet and supple the ride !About 50 PSI
is where I have them for now and they really glide over all the patch paved
and chip/sealed roads around here :) A nice note of singing too
Bikes like the RLT and others mentioned here make a lot of sense IMHO. I'm
doing RAGBRAI in July and on a internet forum I was reading, there was a
thread that essentially amounted to people wringing their hands about the
fact that a couple of stretches of gravel might occur on the route. I
Jim and others,
Thanks to all who have volunteered to help pull this together.
Sorry those of us traveling from afar can not contribute more.
Also glad to hear that RBW will be will represented over the weekend.
Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
Spring Lake, MI 449456
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I was once in an aisle of a sports shop and there were two fellows, one
advising (the expert friend), one looking to buy high performance clip-in
road shoes for his commute. I casually mentioned that flat pedals would
work well and he could ride to work in his regular shoes and that had
There might be two women from my household. Amy on her Betty Foy and Alice (2
years old) on the back of my Bombadil.
Dan
On Jun 26, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh. Hmm. It'd be nice if some more women would show up. Come on, women! It'll
be great.
On
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:07:46 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
Oh. Hmm. It'd be nice if some more women would show up. Come on, women!
It'll be great.
I know at least one of the RBW staff attending is a woman, but yeah, more
would be better.
jim m
wc ca
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My favorite recent overheard at a bike shop story: I was in the local
gigantic bike retailer, where there's a special (large) room for all the
carbon bikes. The few times I've been in, that's where all the action is.
So, there's this couple there getting the sales job from the young racer
This reminds me of my local bike shop and the run around they gave me after
I discovered that the post-fit riding position they tried to shoehorn me
into was causing me pain. The owner of the shop tried to dissuade me
against getting Bosco handlebars, because he didn't recommend changing a
I don't have a front load and I had considered going downhill and had
added 5psi to account for different on bike positions. On rough steep
I tend to use my MTB skills and push my weight far back.
I had never considered breaking forces. I think that should be
mentioned anytime the Berto Pressure
First off, iBOBs excuse the crosspost.
Thought this would be Riv-related as I'm raising money for parts to Riv out
my gf's Univega Sportour mixte.
Also looking for parts in trade:
41/42cm Noodles
8cm 26.0 quill stem
Shimano Road Brake Levers
Stuff I have for sale or trade:
Wald 867 Handlebar
Yeah, the expert friend as the second person really changes the dynamic
over a pushy salesman, doesn't it? I agree with you, Ian, that walking away
there is the right call.
With abandon,
Patrick
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It's the Shoprat Wishlist.
The salesman pressures the customer into what he himself wishes he could
afford - barely used and at second hand prices - and voila! at some point
down the road, gear is showing up back at the shop or on Craigslist for his
ilk to get on the cheap.
On Thursday, June
Totally bummed to be missing the RBW anniversary ride, have to be in Baltimore
for a wedding, have fun y'all!!
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On Jun 26, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:07:46 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
Oh. Hmm. It'd be nice if
Was the boat inspired by the wrecked ship
https://www.flickr.com/photos/56856126@N02/10004657443/in/set-72157636020407325
up in Tomales Bay?
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I remember when Grant's book Just Ride was published. I asked our library
to buy a copy. I figured I could get more people to read it that way. So
the library bought a copy. Then they bought more. Today there are 13 copies
in our system, plus a license to provide electronic downloads.
Roger,
There is a derelict shrimp boat at China Beach that is an exact match. You
can see it in the photos of this article:
http://www.sfgate.com/outdoors/article/Budget-woes-ease-for-state-local-parks-5261031.php#photo-3132986
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:17:52 PM UTC-6,
I like the Straggler a lot. I wish it had a sloping TT. The rear dropouts
are really clever for singlespeed versatility, but I'd prefer a normal
vertical dropout. Even with those gripes, it's on the list and I like the
pink.
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:32:51 AM UTC-7,
On 06/26/2014 10:16 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
Jay -- chainline is no more important for a 1X1 than for a 3xN. With
modern flexible chains and long chainstays, a cm either way is of
little consequence.
Well, except that with a triple you have a front derailleur to help keep
the chain from
Well...if I won the lottery ,making me wealthy enough to retire and take
care of family and do something philanthropic etcmaybe A
Cervelo(Designed by Canadians)road bike and then I can blend in with
all of those well-to-do folks who ride Cervelos. Actually, CF and all, I
think
I have a set of these and of the Schwalbe Marathon Supremes and think they
are VERY similar. So similar they could be re-labeled at the factory.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
I
Hey everyone, its me again. I went to the post office with my car loaded up
full of goodies, was waiting on line and then proceeded to refund my
lunch all over the place. I guess I am not yet feeling good enough. I had
to make a hasty exit before it got all Stand by Me in there. Tomorrow my
mom
I tried. I kept waiting for an opportunity to speak to her out of earshot
of the staff, but it never materialized.
Michael
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 12:53:41 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I don't understand the tongue biting. Why not find a moment and say
something to the customer,
Hey all I have yet more stuff for sale and my wife and mom said to try and
make it one big trip tomorrow to the post office.
FS is the amazing Carsick Panniers Ron sold me. I mounted them up, took one
ride and realized I don't like panniers, they made me feel too wide riding
in traffic. They are
I have told more than one person to check out the book, and everyone who
has comes away with at least some amount of perspective they didn't have. I
don't think there is anything life altering in the book but the fact that
someone is sticking their neck out and saying it makes a big difference.
Wrong thread, I should get more rest...
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com
wrote:
I have told more than one person to check out the book, and everyone who
has comes away with at least some amount of perspective they didn't have. I
don't think there is
I'm with the others who said that rivendell or surly etc. steel bikes are
fully modern.
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like
various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt
Yeah, these are bikes that have been refined by engineers and craftsmen in
this day and age. They represent decades of work and I would think of them
as modern I mean my Bombadil was made in 2010!
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm with the others
On 06/26/2014 06:17 PM, Matt Beebe wrote:
I'm with the others who said that rivendell or surly etc. steel bikes
are fully modern.
While I do not disagree with you, I think someone should point out this
is probably not what the OP had in mind.
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Cheap Bike Parts The late Clem Smith parked his bike overnight in downtown
Baltimore for years and naturally had each and every part of his nice bikes
ripped off. He always recommended no-bs stuff for us to sell for his cheap
bike. It's good stuff, but not so precious you don't mind it getting
I know what you mean, and it's depressing for many of us almost
self-destructively try to support our LBS and then see the LBS do a
disservice to their clientele. When I was working the floor, I really
thought is was as simple as this: Which rider are you, or do you want to
be?
It's the shrimp boat.
Philip
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:38:35 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Roger,
There is a derelict shrimp boat at China Beach that is an exact match. You
can see it in the photos of this article:
Oh, Peter. That sounds dreadful. I hope you're feeling more like yourself
soon.
On Thursday, June 26, 2014 3:04:06 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
Hey everyone, its me again. I went to the post office with my car loaded
up full of goodies, was waiting on line and then proceeded to refund my
lunch
Nitto Tallux stem -120cm (25.4 clamp) and Nitto Albatross bars (aluminum,
the wider ones).
Recently purchased from Rivendell. The stem was $73 and the bars were $88.
Very gently used, with some adhesive junk where the grips were. Also
including 25.4 to 26.0 stem just in case you need such a
http://s14.postimg.org/k4h9lq3cx/IMG_9742.jpg
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Also, the bars have scuffing around clamp from attempting to mount a 26.0
stem with use with the shim.
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it's kinda nice at my LBS... if someone walks in asking about carbon bikes,
everyone would look at each other and chuckle. Every bike is steel (I
think), there are a mixed assortment of new Surly's and Salsa, some
Soulcrafts and a large number of vintage lugged steel bikes.
~mike
Carlsbad
I've never had vomiting with strep. That sounds hellish.
Philip
www.biketinker.com
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I think that's over complicating things. It's just a guideline. If you end up
with 25% tire drop instead of the ideal 15%, under hard braking on a rough
downhill... Who cares? Your tires are now compressing more than the ideal
theoretical amount to give you the lowest rolling resistance, but
I am probably more of a Strava user than most of you on the board. There is
a big wannabe-racer character in me. That said, almost 2 years ago I sold
my 23mm road bike and the Sam Hillborne became my only roadish bike.
Most of my rides get logged on Strava so I generally know where I am
Heya Mike,
Would you be talking Chuck Hoefer at Pacific Coast Cycles? Chuck built my
no holds barred Salsa Motoman in 1986. I still have it. I still ride it.
With the exception of the wretched U-brakes, it is a state of the art
bicycle today. Timeless.
In those days, the shop was on Elm
Calculate the power, and the Riv will win. No penalty.
Basically multiply weight by hill height and divide by time.
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On Jun 26, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Paul Y paulyeoh...@gmail.com wrote:
I am probably more of a Strava user than most of you on the board. There is a
big
Ok, Poster, Wheel and Cables are sold. Price drop to $175 on the Panniers,
they are Patrick Moore approved, two huge gaping maws that can swallow
loads of stuff.
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Hey all I have yet more stuff for sale and my wife and
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