[RBW] WTB: Knobbies (Cazaderos or Clement XPlors)

2018-01-31 Thread Eric Karnes
Anybody have a lightly used pair of 42mm Soma Cazaderos (700c) or 40mm Clement XPlor MSOs they are looking to get rid of? Preferably blackwall, but I'm open to skinwall as well. Let me know... Thanks! Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] WTB: Banana Sax Dark Brown

2018-01-31 Thread Birdman
Long shot. Would love to buy a dark brown banana sax. Anyone? Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] FS - Gauging Interest - Bikes, Frames, Parts

2018-01-31 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
I could use the Sirius rings. Color and price? Thanks Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-01-31 Thread Davey Two Shoes
Salsa vaya ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-01-31 Thread Surlyprof
Kai, Love that solution! I run my bar end shifter cables on the underside of my albastache bars so they line up with where my fingers bend. I like that it feels similar to our cooking knives from Japan. Always wanted a little more bump. Next time I’ll try your rope trick. Thanks. John

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
Ted I'm not sure what the point is, exactly. Are you trying to test me on all possible bike parts, looking for me to say some part is 'not dumb', so you can say "gotcha! that part IS dumb!" ? Do you sincerely want me to design your build list for you because you want to build a 19 pound

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread stoker
The best tires I have ever ridden. Worth every penny - use the 32’s and 35’s and I do not have any more flats than with any other tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't have a problem discussing why prices rises, I just take issue with a question being presented as though there was no explanation from Grant. There's been countless explanations of the state of business over all the years Riv had existed, and a good number in the last couple months. The

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Bruce d
I don't want to tempt fate either, but I have had good luck with 32 and 35 mm compass tires. I have ridden over 5000 miles on them and had roughly 4 flats. They're great tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Surlyprof
I run into the same issue as Bob K. Students cyberstalk. I think this posts me as “surlyprof” from my days when I rode to class on a Cross Check. I also liked the double meaning. Also, I’m with Mark on Rilke over Willie. John “surlyprof” McClusky -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: FS: 26" Peter White Built Schmidt Dyno Wheelset

2018-01-31 Thread Daniel Jackson
Riv's prices may go up; but mine go down! $350 shipped on this set. Best, Daniel On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 9:48:36 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > $400 shipped CONUS > > Built by Peter White about 1 year ago. Silver Velocity Atlas rims laced to > black 36h SON 28 front and 36h XT

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Bob K.
My middle school students Google my name all the time—like, constantly. They don’t need to be able to find anything else. Hence the last initial. Bob K. in Baltimore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Bob K.
While it’s possible to get another MUSA bike for cheaper than a MUSA Rivendell, it won’t ever magically morph into a Rivendell. So there’s that. I don’t, however, think it’s ludicrous to have a conversation about the price change. Clearly, Grant knew it would be a big deal because he mentioned

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Shark. Jumped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread ted
As Bill said dumb is in the eye of the beholder. I take it in your eye carbon rim wheels (tubular or not) are not dumb. That's cool. They certainly can save a fair amount of weight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread John G.
I feel like I’m tempting fate, but I haven’t had many flats in 2 years of riding the 44mms, 35mms, and 32mms. FWIW, the 35’s are my favorite. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Jim M.
On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 3:15:34 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote: > > > ..*My Name is Nobody* ... > > Man I really do love the Trinity series of movies and all the spaghetti > westerns :-) > > I'm Nobody! Who are you? Are you - Nobody - too? Then there's a pair of us! Dont tell!

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Frank Brose
No and probably never will. I like'em and have had great luck and mileage out of them but then again I live in a rural area with great roads and little or no garbage that might flat a tire. I've had one flat in the last five years that I can remember. Frank Tomahawk,WI On Tuesday, January 30,

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Texts, please? Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the angelic orders? And if one of the suddenly clasped me to his heart, I'd be consumed in his stronger existence. For beauty is nothing but the beginning of terror, which we can just barely endure, And we stand in awe of it as it coolly

Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread ted
Though a threadless headset may be easier to adjust than a threaded one, adjusting the bar height with a quil stem is easier than adjusting it with a threadless setup. An individual could reasonably prefer either one based on those characteristics. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
You can plug your years and dollar figures into the adjusted inflation machine all you want. But like almost all statistics and figures having to do with our economy, you won't get even close to the real picture. The owners or investors of companies like bikesdirect or Public might be in it in

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread ted
Bill, You seem to ask what I was asking. I am wondering what you think is dumb when it comes to building a light Roadeo. I.e. what choices could you make that would make it lighter that you would chose not to make because you think it would be dumb. I would also be interested if you would

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm pretty sure Taiwan already has, and has had, the best large production bicycle factories for some time, including carbon fiber, aluminum, and steel. On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 6:26:28 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote: > > Price also has to go up considering Taiwan has made significant

[RBW] FS - Gauging Interest - Bikes, Frames, Parts

2018-01-31 Thread jandrews_nyc
Hello I am in a position where I need to sell some bikes and bike things that I've built and ridden over the years. I will keep my beloved 1st gen Hillborne. I can provide clear photos of any item someone may be interested in before the weekend. My intention is to sell a lot of items at

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
There's a short answer to the question, and it's right in the Blug post this thread is about: "F.A.Q.: Why are your frames so expensive? Answer: COSTS!" I'm not clear why we're using this forum to ask answered questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Philip Kim
Price also has to go up considering Taiwan has made significant investment in their bike factory technology and aqcuiring more skilled labor and it's fast approaching the best factories in the world that can fulfill on a production scale in high quality frames. Same thing happened to Nike in S

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Andrew Huston
No, but making Hilsens and Hunqs in Taiwan batch-style, could make these bikes more accessible with minimal quality decrease. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Garth
..*My Name is Nobody* ... Man I really do love the Trinity series of movies and all the spaghetti westerns :-) And Nobody and Somebody is Everybody too ! This is Everybody's song :-) With Elmo and Diana Krall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hDGQtWuY7o Sure, Garth is

[RBW] Re: Velocity customer service

2018-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Arita
On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 6:47:45 AM UTC-8, Conway Bennett wrote: > I want to once again publicly plug velocity for there customer service. I > got a new rear wheel for my quickbeam and really wanted a 36h silver hub > which they don't stock anymore because nobody orders them so I was

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Andreas
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 5:55:42 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Why? > What did you start using? > Experience with: - Barlow Pass, 2 sets - Bon Jon, 2 sets - Stampede Pass, 2 sets - BSP, 1 set - RTP, 1 set Usage: 7-10,000 annual miles, of which 70% are northern New England dirt roads

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Mark Anderson
It is likely that a large part of what makes the Taiwan-made frames so much cheaper is that they are made---and shipped---in batches of several identical model, size, color frames. Ordering bikes one-at-a-time like the nominally `production' Waterford frames, then shipping them across the

[RBW] Re: FS Sim Works Tomboy Stem

2018-01-31 Thread It's me Ryan
SOLD On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 9:31:15 PM UTC-8, It's me Ryan wrote: > > Hi, I have a Sim Works Tomboy Stem, 80mm, Silver, 10mm rise for sale. Used > for about 2 days then decided I didn't like the bars. $50 which included > shipping from Los Angeles. Thank you. > -- You received this

[RBW] Who rides an off-roadish Sam?

2018-01-31 Thread Neil Doran
I've always loved riding my Sam in the dirt, and regularly 'underbike' my Sam and my Surly commuter through all manner of trail. Love it. But a big mixed-terrain ride a few weeks back got me thinking about a more dirt-capable build. Roman's bike also serves as fodder for the idea: Really,

Re: [RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Eric Karnes
I'm currently riding Squalamononegineee Passes (I always forget how to spell 'em). They're great, but I'm getting a few too many flats due to the wonderful 'roads' here in Philly. Thinking about swapping them out for Rock'n Roads, Soma Cazederos, or Clement XPlors come spring. So if anyone

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
Image result for willie nelson I'll put my money on Willie anytime... On 01/31/2018 05:29 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Funny, funny! But I favor Rainer Maria Rilke over Willie when it comes to wowing the gals. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Funny, funny! But I favor Rainer Maria Rilke over Willie when it comes to wowing the gals. On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 3:45:25 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJIpp2Jj8AQ > > On 01/31/2018 03:37 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: > > >

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Eric Karnes
I think Bill makes a very good point about resale value. When I first read this post, I'll admit some concern at Rivendell pricing themselves out of the market. I thought 'Wow, I could buy a pretty damned good custom for $2700." Simon Firth here in Philly makes amazing lugged frames/forks for

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Patrick Moore
LOL. Not about the shrinking quantities that the g-damned corporate suits try to sneak past us hoping we don't notice -- the gross sin here is not only the cheating; it's the pettiness, meanness, and caddish nature of it, petty snivelling little shits -- but the idea that the Rivendell suits are

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread William R.
Oh man... I just want to add that Grant and Riv struggle to survive from year to year in this country that does not support small, successful, vibrant, loved, etc. companies like this. Riv employs a bunch of great, real people that answer the phone when you call. People who love the product

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Jim Bronson
Prices of everything have to go up eventually in a country where you have a constant trade deficit. 1+1!=3. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Mattt wrote: > The price is still pretty good compared to other kinds of bikes out there. > > -- > You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Mattt
The price is still pretty good compared to other kinds of bikes out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I'll also add that as an owner of a Waterford Tig'd Milwaukee frame and a Taiwanese Tig'd Rivendell Clem Smith both have equally clean looking welds with no perceptible differences as far as my untrained eye could tell. I trust that the imported fully lugged Riv's are just as reliable and well

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Either the price of your product needs to be adjusted to reflect it, or your product needs to be adjusted to reflect your target price... off topic but kinda reminds of Haagen Dazs reducing their "pints" from 16 to 14oz rather than raise their pint price. I recall this happening a while back

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Christopher Murray
$1000 in 1999 is just about $1500 in 2018 accounting for inflation. When USA made frames are going for double, triple, or more since 1999 I don’t think “out of control” is a totally crazy opinion. I might not agree with it but I think it’s within the realm of normal and acceptable opinions.

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJIpp2Jj8AQ On 01/31/2018 03:37 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: * * Where is Garth when we need him? How about some Shakespeare in the meantime?* * * * *Juliet:* 'Tis but thy name that is my enemy; Thou art thyself, though not a

Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/31/2018 03:29 PM, Jim M. wrote: On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 11:01:14 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: we'ved asked around and /not one single person on the entire club ride/ -- and they themselves all had threadless headsets -- *ever* had any idea how to adjust one.

Re: [RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Addison Wilhite
I've ridden the 32 and 35mm versions (I've given up on trying to remember all of the different "pass" names...g). I love the way they ride and did something of a side by ride/ride by side experiment between some nice sewups and the 32s and found it nearly impossible to distinguish between the

[RBW] Re: Honjo fenders on Cheviot?

2018-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
Philip I don't have a Cheviot, but there is a Betty Foy in the family stable. I am running Hammered Honjos on my 650Bx42 Rivendell step-thru, but it is a Rosco Bubbe, with cantilever brakes. Here's a photo of that:

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Where is Garth when we need him? How about some Shakespeare in the meantime? *Juliet:* 'Tis but thy name that is my enemy; Thou art thyself, though not a Montague. What's Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot, Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!

Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread Jim M.
On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 11:01:14 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > we'ved asked around and *not one single person on the entire club ride* > -- and they themselves all had threadless headsets -- *ever* had any idea > how to adjust one. > > That's a fault of the user, not the

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I would imagine because Grant wants a new car. Just kidding. I suspect the usual reason, which is that the cost of doing business is going up--factories charging more, shipping costs, labor, insurance, etc. These things are generally always inching up, and after a while, the price of your

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Belopsky
Not sure what Lum (IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME ;) ) is referring to as far as bike industry pricing. Do you mean frames? Do you mean parts? There are ways around this if you care to spend time and wait a bit longer - overseas sellers and the like. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
It may be a MTB thing, but not a road thing. On 01/31/2018 03:01 PM, lconley wrote: It has been 49 years since my 1st 50 mile ride and I have never found the need to adjust a headset while on a ride. Laing Cocoa, FL On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 2:26:07 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote: The

[RBW] Re: Did you lose a Sam H in PDX?

2018-01-31 Thread ant ritchey
CL post still active. Curious! Posted to a local GGroup as well, but dunno what's goin' on with this... On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 10:59:08 AM UTC-8, ant ritchey wrote: > > Came across this post on CL this morn: > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread lconley
It has been 49 years since my 1st 50 mile ride and I have never found the need to adjust a headset while on a ride. Laing Cocoa, FL On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 2:26:07 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote: > The advantage being you can adjust a threadless headset with an allen key, > which is on a

[RBW] Honjo fenders on Cheviot?

2018-01-31 Thread Philip Kim
Wondering if anyone has put honjo fenders on a cheviot (650b version)? Looking at the hammered fenders. I'm not sure if they would fit under tektro 559's with 42's. Would it require Paul Racers? If so, how did you configure the rear brakes? Found some pics online, but nothing too detailed that

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread RJM
I've had a Taiwan Sam, a Waterford Roadeo, and an Atlantis that I am really not sure where it was built. They all rode like Rivendells. I wouldn't have a problem with an entire line of Taiwan Rivs provided the quality was the same as the Sam I had. On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 12:27:31

Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread RJM
The advantage being you can adjust a threadless headset with an allen key, which is on a multi-tool. Threaded you got to bring a couple of decent sized wrenches to adjust. All this talk about headset weight got me to checking and it brought me to a website called weight weeniesI shut it

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
Keep the dangles! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
The terrible secret about the Taiwan versions is they're just as meticulously brazed by bike geeks as the MUSA frames. Everybody likes supporting domestic production and some of us have the cash to support it, but realistically you're not getting a "better" Riv. They're all great. -- You

[RBW] Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

2018-01-31 Thread John A. Bennett
A Sam Hillborne was spotted in the same spot for weeks on end until someone finally cut the u-lock and posted this on Craigslist. As of now, as far as I know, the Craigslist poster has not heard from the owner. Anyone out there?

[RBW] Re: Are you still riding on Fatty Rumpkin Originals?

2018-01-31 Thread lconley
I have Fatty Rumpkins on my Clementine, but they are green label. Do they qualify as "original"? Laing Cocoa, FL On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 5:53:12 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > If not, why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Are you still riding on Fatty Rumpkin Originals?

2018-01-31 Thread Kellie
Put Fatty Rumpkins on my Saluki. To say the least, I LOVED THEM! On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 2:53:12 PM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > If not, why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Kellie
So entertaining to read everyone's comments I didn't understand really what "supple" was until I rode RTP EL. I have 26" wheels, but I think a big part of my happiness with them is I set them up tubeless (on Cliffhanger rims). I ride 3/4 pavement; they're wonderful. The 1/4 dirt;

Re: [RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
Yes.  Real location as well. -- Steve Palincsar Alexandria, Virginia USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] WTB: 54cm A. Homer Hilsen / Saluki

2018-01-31 Thread Michael in SF
Reaching out before I drop a deposit on an AHH. If you have either frame (54cm) for sale or can offer a lead, lmk! Cheers, Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Eric
My mistake Bill, I misread your previous posting questioning the "posting police". So to get this discussion back on track...does anyone know why prices are increasing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/31/2018 12:34 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: I think the "advantage" of a threadless headset is in the adjustment. Throw in a face plate stem and you can easily swap stems and bars. But really, how many people do that?  So again, it comes back to adjustment. Threadless is so simple and

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-01-31 Thread Kainalu V.
> > Here's my solution for comfort grips, at least what's going on underneath. > They're now wrapped in green to further solidify the rope's placement and > hide the ugliness (the ends have been trimmed, but the dangles could be fun > if left).

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
I say use whatever let's you ride. If you ever found the time and the whim you could always do a fancy wrap with cloth over what you have now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Andrew Huston
Would the perceived “value” of these bikes be less if the design attributes remained and the production went overseas for a respective reduction on the price tag? I’ve felt that the Taiwanese versions are rather highly regarded by Riv staff. I have owned both Waterford and Taiwan built bikes.

Re: [RBW] Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Palmer
Hi Joe, My shaving technique is very Luddite. I bought some end cutting nippers, inflate tire to max and nip as close to casing as I can. I am left with a very shallow, flat knob. Better traction than RTP and seem to roll as well. Very good on hard packed dirt roads I ride a lot. As learned

Re: [RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Steven Sweedler
I bought a pair of the early Compass 26 x 1.75 tires to ride the Northern Tier in 2013. The rear flatted after about 700 m. and had a hole I could put my little finger through, Jan replaced the tire. The front made it home, 4100 m. but had at least 6 tire boots over spots that let light through. I

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
Eric I've heard various "police" names thrown out when people are feeling persecuted. If Lum Gim Fong is feeling unfairly persecuted. The classic situation is when people habitually post misspellings, or fragment sentences, or otherwise sloppy grammar, and somebody points out the bad

[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread RJM
I use my initials. It's easy to type and easy to remember and it's the same for most websites I visit. On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 4:52:31 PM UTC-6, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Yea or nay? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Fancy grip-making (starring my bike!)

2018-01-31 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
> I have had three carpal tunnel surgeries and suffer from permanent pain > and numbness, sometimes so bad I can't squeeze the brake, which almost > caused me to wreck once. I also have had three back surgeries, so trying to > get comfortable on a bike had been an all consuming project.

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread lconley
> > No, I have not stopped using Compass tires. > > I currently have 700C x 38 Barlow Pass EL waiting on the arrival of Sr. > Jones, 650B x 48 Switchback Hill on the Bombadil, 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass > on the Sam, and 700C x 35 Bon Jon Pass EL on a Chinese Motobecane fixie > (tires cost

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Birdman
I have a handle because it’s fun and it’s a bike related nickname (a buddy returned from a S24O to find that in every pic he took of me, I was flashing a stealthy “bird”). That said, I sign off with my real name most of the time. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Eric
Won't even go near them based on the negative reviews I've read. Supple is overrated for my urban commuting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Eric
Bill, I've never heard the term "posting police". Do you find it laughable that this group is "dedicated to the discussion of RBW and products" and that someone decides that actual discussion of such is verboten? I do. Additionally, while resale value can fluctuate, it seems outside the

Re: [RBW] Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Patrick Moore
15 flats in a year! Oooh! Sorry, I'm being mean; I'll stop. Moving on: I use the 178 gram ~29mm wide 559 Elk Passes, on pavement and firm dirt and gravel, as I've reported too many times already, and this in the Goathead Capital of the Universe. Without sealant, these tires would be like the

Re: [RBW] Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bunik
I'll add that, my RockCombo is my RTP bike and *IT IS A BLAST* to ride on Compass RTP. I haven't had any measurable change in my on-the-road flat frequency (knock on wood), though I did go through a nasty spate of valve failures with cheapy tubes in the past couple of years. I have switched over

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Justin August
Real hometown or real location or real residence? Justin, in Oakland sitting at 37.776947, -122.197052 by way of Ravenswood, WV (and many in betwixt the two). On Jan 31, 2018, 9:39 AM -0800, Steven Sweedler , wrote: > I too am using my real name and my real hometown > Steve

Re: [RBW] Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bunik
hi Tom Not that I need any more bike parts or projects, but I'd love to hear about your RR shaving technique! I mostly roll on Compass (RTP 559x54, BJP 700x35, StmpP 700x32), GB (Cypress 700x32), and Soma (C-Line 700x38) tires, and have just added a set of the SnoqP 700x44 to the mix (which I

Re: [RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Tim Butterfield
I use my real name everywhere. I'm not usually in situations where I might become a target and feel no need to hide who I am behind what I am saying. This is me. Take it or leave it. :) Tim On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 2:52 PM, lum gim fong wrote: > Yea or nay? > -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Steven Sweedler
I too am using my real name and my real hometown Steve Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshire On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:58 PM Toshi Takeuchi wrote: > Toshi AKA Inigo Montoya. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
At this point I think it's fair to say the line between MUSA production and MUSA custom is well and truly blurred. They're both handbuilt in USA with long lead times, with the main difference on Nobilletes being specific tubing and sizing for the specific customer. And that sweet Rivendell

[RBW] Re: Did you stop using Compass tires?

2018-01-31 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
I pulled mine off for the winter. I have been lucky and had only one flat so far. I like them, and find them to be a luscious ride. Vee Rubber makes a tire I like just as much. I have a pair of Intense Micro knobbies, which Vee rubber made. Incredible tire, so I ordered some Vee Speedsters to

[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

2018-01-31 Thread Brewster Fong
I think the "advantage" of a threadless headset is in the adjustment. Throw in a face plate stem and you can easily swap stems and bars. But really, how many people do that? So again, it comes back to adjustment. Threadless is so simple and requires what a 5mm hex wrench?! As for your

[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone wool jersey / RBW MUSA railroad shirt

2018-01-31 Thread Joe Bunik
Argh, spoke too soon… both the wool jersey and the chambray/denim engineer shirt remain available!!! Please, pitch me a number-- don't need these hanging around. Thanks! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 1/30/18, Joe Bunik wrote: > update: > Bridgestone jersey is sold; RBW

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think nick b is probably right in his interpretation of Rivs BLUG typo. It's not clear to me whether the HHH Tandem frames needed to be included at all. The HHH tandem is $1800, and they have just a few in stock. There's no plan to do another run, and the 'costs' of the ones in stock

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Philip Kim
not sure what you mean? do you mean mass produced parts (like shimano components, etc) and their price in US relative to their price in other parts of the world? Do you mean pricing on bikes like Surly/All city in the US is too high? That Americans overpay for the current bike trends like race

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
Lum Gim Fong said: "Posting police please stay away." Can you please expand on the meaning of this request? At whom is this directed, and what are these people doing? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 8:48:20 AM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > I think the bike

[RBW] Re: Which tire was ridden on your first excursion into 650b?

2018-01-31 Thread Eric
It was actually Fatty Rumpkins that made me sell my Saluki. They looked great but they were just lumpy & not made well, IMO. I had my Saluki a little before the surge in popularity in 650b so I would like to revisit the issue, especially with some better tires. But on the flipside, my wife

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Julian Westerhout
I do not hear of many U.S. based builders getting hugely rich, in fact, quite the opposite. This makes me think that saying "bike industry pricing in the USA is out of control" is just another way of saying one prefers products and/or the price structure associated with mass production in low

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Eric
Lum, can you expand on how bike industry pricing out of control but Riv is competitive? And did Waterford raise all their prices too? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I think the bike industry pricing in the USA is out of control. That said, I think Rivendells pricing is competitive, if not better than like frame sellers. Posting police please stay away. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Rivendell prices going up.

2018-01-31 Thread Belopsky
^Exactly. Waterford is pricing themselves out of the market, sorry not sorry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Toshi AKA Inigo Montoya. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Are you using your real name on here?

2018-01-31 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Yes... phonetically speaking. Coal Bee Rye Anne = Cole, Brian Not really trying to be anonymous though and I’ve tried to remember signing my posts with my real name since I’m relatively new here and it seems to be the norm. But I like having fun with words and also come from the cusp of gen

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