[RBW] Re: Kickstarter Project - Ride Bike!

[Jock Dewey]

Sp well done and worthy companion to ROUGHSTUFF. And 'thank you' Isola 
Press for job well-done and for what must surly be mostly a labor of love.

Hard to recall now, a time before Jobst and all of his cantankerous 
Jobstisms. He got really worked up over the 'no grease' on spindle threads. 
That's maybe my favorite. Seems we all needed a proper scolding now and 
again.

Anyone remember good old Robin Hubert...years ago now I suppose? He'd 
invoke Jobst in almost every discussion.  

Jock


 
On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 1:58:57 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I got my copy just before labor day. Here's my quickie review:
>
> It's no secret that I'd been a follower of the late Jobst Brandt for many 
> years, and have indeed read all of his trip reports hoping to follow some 
> of his routes and glean his hotel recommendations. When Isola press offered 
> a Kickstarter copy 
>  of 
> a book with photos from his various outings to the alps I jumped on it, 
> knowing full well that most of the text would have been stuff I'd read 
> before.
>
> My kickstarter copy was a softcover with high quality perfect bound back. 
> The binding is such that it's not easy for the book to lay flat, so it's 
> best read with both hands on the book. The photographs and drawings are 
> reproduced with high fidelity, including the faded photographs from his 
> youth. The slides of course reproduce well with no hint of color fading. 
> You get to see how much ice there used to be on the Rhone Glacier and on 
> Grosse Scheidegg back in the 70s and 80s, and how the glaciers there are 
> now but pale shadows of their former self. You also get to see how few 
> cyclists there used to be.
>
> I did learn many things in this book, including about his honeymoon drive 
> through the alps, as well as the story of how he got into Stanford (yes, 
> faculty kids do get legacy-style access to top universities).   The old ad 
> copy of him leaning his bike way over on treadless tires reminds me that so 
> many follow-ons (like Jan Heine) are basically frauds in terms of actually 
> understanding the mechanics behind traction. The text is well organized and 
> fun to read, including stories from industry luminaries such as Tom Ritchey 
> and Joe Breeze (who's confusedly abbreviated as JBr in the book!).
>
> The whole book oozes quality, and I reads it cover to cover in a night. 
> You're unlikely to find it at the library but it will look nice on your 
> bookshelf. Recommended.
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 1:56:19 PM UTC-7 Michael Connors wrote:
>
>> I ordered the new book from Isola Press.  They are also printing more 
>> Bicycle Wheel books. The book is half pictures and half stories from his 
>> friends. Payment is in British pounds, but it ships from Traverse City MI.
>>
>> [image: jobst.jpg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Jock Dewey]

Michael, the tires on our Santana were 27" @ 28 mm wide mounted on 48 spoke 
wheels front/rear. We punctured only once in just under 2,000 
miles—Anacortes, WA to Thief River Falls, MN...on a gravel road into 
Glacier NP. Quite a machine that was. We never touched our tool set.

BEST / Jock


On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:25:42 PM UTC-8 Michael Hammer wrote:

> Skinny tires on those tandems!  Times have changed.  Seems like a lot of 
> bike for those tires.  
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:43:34 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Am I understanding that this is you and your son, Jock? You could be 
>> *brothers. 
>> *What great photos and a great story. Though I will say that first photo 
>> of you and the little guy has me thinking he might have been safer stuffed 
>> in a Backabike bag of his own, but it was the 80s! 
>>
>> L
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jock Dewey  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/
>>
>> Jock Dewey
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
>>> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
>>> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
>>> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
>>> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
>>> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
>>> tiny family members.
>>>
>>> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
>>> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
>>> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
>>> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>>>
>>> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
>>> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
>>> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
>>> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Jock Dewey]

Now up to date.:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/52727172792/in/dateposted-family/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/52589941155/in/dateposted-family/

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 9:08:05 AM UTC-8 Jock Dewey wrote:

>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
> Jock Dewey
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
>> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
>> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
>> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
>> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
>> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
>> tiny family members.
>>
>> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
>> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
>> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
>> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>>
>> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
>> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
>> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
>> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Jock Dewey]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/

Jock Dewey
On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
> tiny family members.
>
> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>
> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Jock Dewey]

Peter, that is a timelessly beautiful bicycle. Bravo for spending the $$ 
and taking the time to preserve it. IMHO, there is nothing so satisfying as 
riding a bicycle you have owned and maintained for years and years. Richard 
is one of our greatest treasures as he keeps on keeping on. Cycling royalty 
right there!

BEST / Jock Dewey
On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:36:36 AM UTC-8 peter@gmail.com wrote:

> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>
> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>
> Here it is now:
>
> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>
> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>
> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>
> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
> seat for me.
>
> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>
> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>
> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Jock Dewey]

In case any of you are new to Kurcharik, if there are woolies your size 
snatch 'em up.

I bought my first Kurcharik jersey in 2003 and twenty years later I'm still 
wearing it in daily rotation. No visible wear save for some sunshine fading 
on the backside. Otherwise looks brand new. Best deal ever!



On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:20:42 AM UTC-8 John Dewey wrote:

> I check regularly and all size S are gone nearly everywhere. Will miss 
> these guys, they've been part of our consciousness for so many years. Great 
> wool stuff at always reasonable prices. Good folks for sure.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 8:42 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I am still or was until last week or so still getting "closeout sale" 
>> emails from Kucharik; maybe they've finally shut down, but there were open 
>> until very recently.
>>
>> Harth Huffman, on the Boblist, owns Wabi Woolens who make excellent 
>> jerseys; better than Kucharik's IMO.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 5:16 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Kim, but while the website is still up I thought John Kucharik 
>>> closed up shop and liquidated their inventory sometime in 2021 or 2022. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:01:14 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>>
>>>> Try visiting Kucharick Bicycle Clothing. Going out of business sale !
>>>> https://www.kucharik.com/
>>>>
>>>> I have bought some solid colored wool jerseys late last year from John 
>>>> Kucharick. They are luxurious merino wool !
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 9:25:55 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> George — I do wish that there was more simple wool out there in nice 
>>>>> solid colors and I think generally shorts are too long! 
>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Jock Dewey]

RE: JB

Near as I can remember, I started lusting after bicycles at about age 
four...that was a long time ago now. A Dutch track bike dangled from a 
rafter in my Grandfather's garage. It was love at first sight. When I laid 
eyes on my first 10-speed in 1958—a Raleigh Bluestreak—my head (and heart) 
exploded. I've been chasing that one ever since.

My bikes are all steel, I built the oldest in 1998 and most recently one of 
Hiroshi's EBISU, built precisely for my 130 lb. frame. It's an artful, no 
nonsense rocketship. Fast as any carbon—but with its skinny tubes, lugs, 
and curvy fork—looks like it, too, was built in 1958. I also was employed 
by Richard Schwinn in Waterford, WI—therefore surrounded by the metal works 
of many legends, including Richard himself. Those guys all know a thing or 
two.

On our long rides together, my pals and I carried on endlessly about JB the 
engineer or rather, his many opinions  / obsessions / observations. We all 
agreed with most every JB declaration. We whiled away the hours, mile after 
mile, jabbering until our vocal chords gave out. I didn't have the math 
skills to make it as an engineer, but I've got the heart for it. My 
grandfather was a brilliant aircraft designer...I just wasn't there when 
the math genes were passed out. 

But I am handy, I love tools, and I've always maintained and built my own 
bicycles (frames notwithstanding). In fact, the only mechanic I ever 
trusted was Colin O'Brien, proprietor of Cronometro in Madison Wisconsin 
and as I recall I may have let him work on one of my bikes one time long 
ago. 

Someone wondered how he'd fit in today, good question. I have a riding pal 
in Athens, GA with a beautiful collection of steel bikes—including works by 
Richard Sachs, Peter Weigle, Pegoretti, Masi, and others in that club. But 
he also rides modern carbon bikes and will argue energetically with anyone 
who looks down on today's machines. He loves his 'plastic' (as referenced 
by Richard S.) 26-speed and the science behind it.

So back to JB. I'd be inclined to say that he'd look down upon carbon bikes 
(with 8 oz. carbon wheels) and the way we ride them. Meaning lots of gears, 
high cadence, wider tires, plastic seatposts 2 feet long, skinsuits, bike 
positioning, white socks reaching up to the knees, and those damn white 
shoes  etc. etc.

But maybe, with his obvious intelligence and brilliant engineering chops, 
he'd totally embrace the technology. 

The more I think about it, I'm betting he would. Afterall, consider all the 
carbon in a Porsche 963. Take away all that plastic, not much left but the 
tires.

BEST / Jock Dewey



On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:49:25 AM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod to 
> current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. As a 
> result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you spliced 
> his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. 
>
> Today's Radavist 
> <https://theradavist.com/conversations-with-tom-ritchey-part-two-the-influence-of-jobst-brandt/>
>  article 
> really fueled that question so I'd like to open it up to this group who 
> likely have much more insight into the man and his bike(s). 
>
> What are we thinking? Rim brakes or disc? Carbon? Steel? Ti? I see a lot 
> of similarities between him and Jan Heine as far as a desire for 
> performance and reliability, so perhaps he'd lean towards a rando build?  
>
> Take it away if you wish, 
> Andrew
>

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[RBW] Re: Help Needed to Get Back the iBob Google Group

[Jock Dewey]

Contact Steve Palincsar, he'll fix it for you like he just did for me.

BEST / Jock Dewey
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:48:12 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Help,  Yesterday, 11/15, I lost the iBob Google group from the My Groups
>
> list.   I still have the RBW group and 650B, but IBob list disappeared. 
>
> I could not find it using the Google Search feature (using All Groups and 
> Messages).
>
>  Please Help
>
>  John Hawrylak
>
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[RBW] Re: BOB List

[Jock Dewey]

Well, problem solved. One of the moderators got me back in, not sure how 
tho :  )

Happy to know I hadn't lost my mind, however, as others seem to get stuck, 
too. Thanks to Mr. Palincsar for fixing me up.

BEST / Jock Dewey

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 10:38:37 AM UTC-8 Jock Dewey wrote:

> Hey, Y'all:
>
> I somehow lost my connection to the BOB list. And I can't find the link to 
> get back on. I have found an old one, but it pops up 'content unavailable.'
>
> Can one of you good folks help me out? Many tanx.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
>
>
>

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[RBW] BOB List

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Y'all:

I somehow lost my connection to the BOB list. And I can't find the link to 
get back on. I have found an old one, but it pops up 'content unavailable.'

Can one of you good folks help me out? Many tanx.

BEST / Jock Dewey


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[RBW] Re: FS: PARTS & ACCESSORIES (UPDATE)

[Jock Dewey]

GP,  is the cable cutter still available @ $25?

Thanks, Jock

On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 6:06:39 AM UTC-7 gpgun...@aol.com wrote:

> I have decided to pare down some parts duplicates.  Most if not all the 
> parts listed are either new in the box, like new or have never been mounted 
> on a frame. Pictures are included via Flickr. please feel free to PM me if 
> you may have any questions.
>
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmW4KhM9
>
>
> Thank you for your consideration
>
>
> (1) SUGINO XD2 600   46/36/26  170MM   $125
>
> NEW/BOX
>
> (2) MKS SYLVAN TRACK PEDALS BLACK/CHROME  $25 (PAIR)-- *1 PAIR SOLD * 
>
> NEW/BOX
>
> (1) STRONGLIGHT DELTA HEADSET *$*55.00---* SOLD*
>
> BRITISH  26.4   NEW/BOX
>
> (1) STRONGLIGHT A9 HEADSET $50.00---*SOLD*
>
> BRITISH 26.4  NEW/BOX
>
> (1)DURA ACE HB 7700 FRONT HUB$100
>
> 36 H  NEW/BOX
>
> (1) NITTO DREAM BAR 46 HEAT TREATED   $60.00*NEW PRICE $50.00 *
>
> MOD 176  NEW/ NEVER MOUNTED  
>
> (1) GILLES BERTHOUD FRONT RACK$75.00--*SOLD  *
>
> ADJUSTABLE W/ LIGHTING MOUNT
>
> CANTILEVER OR V BRAKESNEW
>
> (1) GILLES BERTHOUD SMALL SADDLE BAG  $45.00
>
> #GB288 BLACK   NEW
>
> (2) RIVENDELL BAGGINS BANNANA BAG  $100 (EACH) *NEW PRICE $80.00*
>
> NEW/NEVER USED
>
> (4) SCHWALBE MARATHON PLUS TIRES  $45.00 (EACH) *NEW PRICE $40.00*
>
> SMART GUARD 700C X 35   NEW
>
> (4) CONTI TOP TOURING 2000  $20.00 EACH--*SOLD*
>
> 700C X 32  NEW   (PROPERLY STORED)
>
> (4) TUBES 700C 35-43   $5.00 (EACH)---*SOLD*
>
> PRESTA
>
> (4) MAVIC MA3  RIMS   $45.00 (EACH) 
>
> 700C 36H  NEW
>
> (1) PARK CABLE/HOUSING CUTTER CN-10  $30.00 *NEW PRICE $25.00*
>
> NEW/POUCH
>
> (3) VINTAGE HURET/SIMPLEX DERAILLEUR CABLE  (NO CHARGE)
>
> (1) SIDI GENIUS 4 LORICA SHOE   $100  
>
> 43.0 NEW/BOX
>
> (1) SIDI TOURING SHOE   $125 
>
> 42.0 NEW/BOX
>
> *NEW ADDITIONS*
>
> NITTO M12 FRONT RACK (NEW)  *$75.00* 
>
>
>
> SHIPPING NOT INCLUDED
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Paul:

Your posts are always* the best*, enjoy reading every one of them...and 
some of our conversations, too. 

Especially your tire ovations.

I say this, because it is *important & necessary* that tires look good and 
make proper sounds on good pavement. It's the only music I listen to out on 
the road.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote:
>
> You can order from Scott in Mpls, as already mentioned, or buy from him on 
> ebay. He's always got listings for tires there, makes it handy to see what 
> he may have in stock.
>
> Ordering direct from Grand Bois has been mostly smooth for me. Recent 
> covid-related shipping issues have cropped up, they switched from EMS to 
> DHL when delays kicked in, not sure what they're doing now, but Japan seems 
> to be getting back to a quasi-normal.
>
> Nobody's mentioned the Soma Supple Vitesse tires, which are another 
> high-zoot Panaracer OE product for a US-based brand/company. I use 'em a 
> lot, like 'em a lot. They have std and extralight versions, and are 
> generally less expensive than Rene Herse. You can buy direct, might help to 
> wait for one of their occasional/seasonal sales if you're not in a rush. 
> ModernBike seems to have the lowest everyday price on them.
>
> The Challenge tires are also very nice. Just be aware they are "open 
> tubular" design, not vulcanized, so they lay flat against the rim out of 
> the package, with no natural upward curve whatsoever. I don't use tubeless 
> tires, so I can't compare mounting a Challenge open tubular to those, but I 
> can say that Challenge open tubulars are the most difficult tires to mount 
> of any tires I've used over the past 10yrs+. I'm cranky and stubborn, and 
> only when death is the only other alternative (yes, I'm exaggerating) will 
> I use tire irons to mount a tire, but I've come close with Challenge. I 
> recently got some fat, puffy Strada Bianca Pros, and they look just 
> beautiful, but every time I look at them I can almost feel palm and thumb 
> pain again. Once they've gone on, and had some time inflated, subsequent 
> mounting isn't inordinately difficult, but the first time is a real bear. I 
> recently got a Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack to spare my palms and thumbs next 
> time around. 
>
> [image: 49837732981_ce1b8c5de4_c.jpg]
> I'll also say that tire mounting experience is akin to flatting 
> experience, in that it is a certainty that someone else thinks mounting 
> Challenge tires is easey-peasey, they never have a problem. ("Tire X is a 
> flat magnet!" "I ride mine thousands of miles and never get a flat." Like 
> that...) One man's death fit is another's no sweat. But Challenge does see 
> the need to have a video on their website showing their preferred mounting 
> technique. And boy howdy the dude in the video doesn't seem to struggle 
> like I do. I've bought more than one pair near-new from somebody on a forum 
> who gave up trying to install them. So it ain't just me.
>
> But they are dead sexy.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 11:07:49 AM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> I've long enjoyed the suppleness of these tires, but they seem not to 
>> have been available in the U.S. now for some years; I think they can still 
>> be obtained outside the U.S..  Any recommendations for near-equivalents?  
>> (Labeled as 700 x 30, but seem to measure out closer to 32).  Thanks in 
>> advance for any recommendations.  Tom, Miami  
>>
>> Sam Hillborne
>> Legolas
>> Goodrich-built 650b prototype
>> '94 RBT
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Jock Dewey]

Oh, how we miss Red Green. 

We could all use a good Red Green show right now.

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 7:33:27 AM UTC-4, Kent Peterson -- Eugene, 
Oregon wrote:
>
> OK, I think Craig just won this thread. His dentist isn't the only one who 
> is impressed.
>
> Red Green would approve. "If the women don't find you handsome, they 
> should at least find you handy."
>
> Kent Peterson
> Eugene, OR USA
>
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[RBW] Re: In Praise of Road Bikes with Road Tires

[Jock Dewey]

Impressive, Craig. 

Man, you keep that sweet baby ready-to-go. All packed, just let go the 
toe-strap & you out the door in search of some tumbleweed to camp under.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 8:07:41 PM UTC-4, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> *My takeaway from all this is that in this case a "lively" frame will feel 
> that way with large of range of tire quality whereas a frame that isn't 
> so lively, even with specifically "supple" tires isn't going to compensate 
> for it's not so liveliness. Improve the ride, yes. *
>
>  Bingo! That's the epiphany. And that's the case for handbuilt frames 
> by master builders; AND looking for vintage frames built by master 
> builders. You have,Garth ol' boy, a full-on old school touring frame of the 
> highest order (in materials and craftsmanship) built by someone who knew 
> what they were doing. That's why it rides the way it does, on the tires 
> (which don't matter that much overall) you choose for it. 
>  Nobody I know of makes these things anymore except for a few of the 
> remaining old English companies like Mercian or Ellis Briggs or one offers 
> like Kevin Sayles. Or in France, the Alex Singer shop. Back in those days 
> (1999? THOSE days? Gimme a break!...sorry) about the only tires available 
> were 27x1 1/4" or 1 3/8" or 700x32's or maybe 35's (we're talking touring 
> now...not toodling around on pavement in urban environments). So the frame 
> had to be so masterfully built that it would allow the bike tourist to hit 
> rough pavement and dirt roads without him being bludgeoned to death. 
> Without having his gonads ground into cottage cheese. 
>  Hence, our bikes Garth:
>  Here's my '99 Jack Taylor Tourist (essentially an unchanged design 
> since the 40's). Almost but not quite the spittin' image of yours. 
> 72STA/72.5HTA with a fork rake that ends somewhere just outside of China. 
> These were standard touring designs for decades. Loaded or unloaded, when 
> you hit the rough stuff with a bike like this, it was like jumping onto a 
> very lusciously firm water bed (Oh gawd I'm dating myself again). Don't get 
> me wrong, I really like my Black Mountain Monster Cross with its light 
> tubing and fat Gravel Kings. But at the end of a long rough ride (esp. 
> loaded touring) it doesn't leave me feeling as "refreshed" as the 
> traditional Taylor on it's 700x35 Paselas.  
>
>  "*I can see how those that have both a lively frame and supple tires 
> would find it blissful!"   *We should have been living in England or 
> France 60 or 70 years ago when this was common knowledge. 
>
> Craig "Old and In the Way"(Tony Rice/Jerry Garcia-1973) in Tucson
>
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 2:01:01 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>>
>> Yeah Ted it seems I do prefer frames that have some flex in the right 
>> places. The 531ST tubes are intended for touring, slightly thicker wall 
>> diameter than the regular 531. OF course I know nothing of designing bikes, 
>> but thankfully the designer/builder does and he would not do something he 
>> wasn't comfortable with. Tall head tube, yes, I've seen taller ! Fork flex 
>> is in the blades. 
>>
>> In regards to the tubing, 531 seems to have a kind of PFM status... pure 
>> f'n magic for their ride characteristics. 
>>
>> https://www.bretonbikes.com/homepage/cycling-article-blog/87-reynolds-531-tubing-the-cycle-tourists-friend
>>
>> My takeaway from all this is that in this case a "lively" frame will feel 
>> that way with large of range of tire quality whereas a frame that isn't 
>> so lively, even with specifically "supple" tires isn't going to compensate 
>> for it's not so liveliness. Improve the ride, yes. 
>>
>> I can see how those that have both a lively frame and supple tires would 
>> find it blissful !  
>>
>> At 165lbs or so I would have to go really low on the Bomba to get a pinch 
>> flat as I naturally ride "light" over things. I have Big Ben 50 on there 
>> now @25-30 psi. I'll try lowering them off the pavement and see how it 
>> goes. As for other tires  man it's like pie in the sky. They all look 
>> good from afar ! Ahahaha !
>>
>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Sunglasses

[Jock Dewey]

Sorry, does 'diminish' the darkening over time.

That said, I still use and prefer photochromatic lenses because I just 
don't like dark lenses on a cloudy day. Too gloomy for me, makes me want to 
turn around and go home :  )

Best cloudy day lens is yellow. Totally turn a gloomy cloudy day into a 
bright sunny one. Extend your riding time for at least another 20 or 30 
miles. But if sun does come out, you're screwed as the yellow lens 
intensifies the light. Just can't win these days.

JD / Athens, GA

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 11:21:31 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> That is definitely true, Patrick. The constant cycling does dimishing the 
> darkening over time. Eventually, they don't darken much at all. Transitions 
> is a brand-name, and they will argue that they do not lose effectiveness, 
> but that is just not true.
>
> Buyer beware.
>
> Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
>
> On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:07:38 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I've read that photochromatic lenses lose their ability to change shades 
>> as they age. Is this true? Would be happy to learn that it's no longer 
>> true, as I much prefer transition lenses to having to swap out lenses 
>> manually.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 11:18 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>>> I have clear transition lenses that darken when UV light hits them.  
>>> They are getting better and some versions can even transition inside of 
>>> cars to some extent using light intensity to darken.  The ones I have are 
>>> Rudy Project, which are expensive, but I had paid for them with my Rx plan 
>>> and flexible spending.  The cheaper option may be to get sunglasses with 
>>> interchangeable lenses, which is a good choice.
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 2:27 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the 
>>>> words I need to get out.
>>>>
>>>> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to 
>>>> have beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. 
>>>> The summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my 
>>>> miles in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some 
>>>> changes to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have 
>>>> synthetic, white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded 
>>>> from 
>>>> the sun. I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and 
>>>> wearing riding gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen 
>>>> at times, but I never leave without sunglasses. 
>>>>
>>>> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that 
>>>> I took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times 
>>>> by bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed 
>>>> to get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. 
>>>> I 
>>>> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
>>>> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
>>>> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
>>>> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
>>>> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
>>>> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
>>>> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
>>>> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
>>>> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>>>>
>>>> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
>>>> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
>>>> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
>>>> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>>>>
>>>> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>>>>
>>>> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
>>>> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
>>>> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
>>>> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Sunglasses

[Jock Dewey]

That is definitely true, Patrick. The constant cycling does dimishing the 
darkening over time. Eventually, they don't darken much at all. Transitions 
is a brand-name, and they will argue that they do not lose effectiveness, 
but that is just not true.

Buyer beware.

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA


On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:07:38 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I've read that photochromatic lenses lose their ability to change shades 
> as they age. Is this true? Would be happy to learn that it's no longer 
> true, as I much prefer transition lenses to having to swap out lenses 
> manually.
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 11:18 AM Toshi Takeuchi  > wrote:
>
>> I have clear transition lenses that darken when UV light hits them.  They 
>> are getting better and some versions can even transition inside of cars to 
>> some extent using light intensity to darken.  The ones I have are Rudy 
>> Project, which are expensive, but I had paid for them with my Rx plan and 
>> flexible spending.  The cheaper option may be to get sunglasses with 
>> interchangeable lenses, which is a good choice.
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 2:27 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words 
>>> I need to get out.
>>>
>>> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
>>> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
>>> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
>>> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
>>> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
>>> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
>>> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
>>> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
>>> never leave without sunglasses. 
>>>
>>> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
>>> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
>>> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
>>> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
>>> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
>>> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
>>> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
>>> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
>>> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
>>> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
>>> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
>>> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
>>> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>>>
>>> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
>>> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
>>> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
>>> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>>>
>>> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>>>
>>> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
>>> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
>>> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
>>> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
>>> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
>>> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
>>> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
>>> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
>>> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
>>> bike. 
>>>
>>> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while 
>>> riding? I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, 
>>> either. *
>>>
>>> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
>>> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
>>> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sanda

[RBW] Re: Sunglasses

[Jock Dewey]

I'm biased, as longtime TIFOSI account manager...but the only way to find 
glasses that fit properly is to try them on one-by-one. Without standing 
before a display, actually fitting a frame before purchase is not the best 
way to go.

All makers very likely have some frame that will fit your face and many 
other styles that won't. To recommend one brand over another without 
fitting is basically meaningless.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 5:26:58 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> I’ll get to the sunglasses part, but first just let me say all the words I 
> need to get out.
>
> Lately I’ve been shuffling over the practical side. I would love to have 
> beauty and utility both present, but sometimes it doesn’t work out. The 
> summer months have come to Vegas and as I have greatly increased my miles 
> in 2020 (in May alone I rode 310.4 miles!), I have had to make some changes 
> to withstand the sun. I’m not riding in Lycra, but I do have synthetic, 
> white arm sleeves that keep you cool, covered, and shielded from the sun. 
> I’ve taken to wetting and tying a bandana around my neck and wearing riding 
> gloves on my hands. I apply a nasty white mineral sunscreen at times, but I 
> never leave without sunglasses. 
>
> A few days ago I went out for an evening ride. It was dark enough that I 
> took off my sunglasses and was soon after hit in the eyes several times by 
> bugs. That was annoying but workable until the final one, which managed to 
> get IN my eye and then repeatedly bite or sting. Oh my gosh, the pain. I 
> pulled over but I was using the stripped down Clem H (my Clementine is in 
> the shop getting dyno lighting, another thing I needed with all this extra 
> riding) and it has no mirror. The bathrooms at the park were locked, so I 
> had nothing but my phone camera to use and try and fish this bug - which 
> was still ferociously stinging me - out of my eye. It must have died 
> because the pain stopped, but I never did find the bug carcass. 濫 I was 
> pretty sure all that biting/stinging was going to leave me with swelling. 
> Was I going to have to ride home after dark, up the mountain with one eye 
> swollen shut? (Spoiler alert: I made it home with 2 good eyes.) 
>
> Well that was when I decided I wanted clear riding glasses for night. I 
> ordered Tifosi from Amazon but was really disappointed. They slid down and 
> didn’t offer good eye coverage. I ended up on Oakley’s site, which I was 
> hoping to avoid for 2 reasons: 
>
> 1. $$$ 2. I’m not rad. 
>
> It’s really hard to find fit info and product reviews, but I finally 
> settled on creating a custom pair so I could tone down the rad. There’s a 
> sale going on right now, so while it’s not cheap, it’s not outrageous, 
> either. They’re Radar EV Pitch, I think, and might still be a little too 
> rad - but who’s going to see me? Well, now I’m going to have great eye 
> protection at night, but what about sunglasses for daytime? I have 2 pairs, 
> and while I think they’re fetching, they aren’t providing great coverage - 
> esp. the Warby Parkers. The sun comes down into my eyes from the top of the 
> glasses, and I don’t want to put up with it anymore. At least not on my 
> bike. 
>
> *I want to know: What do you all like to use for sunglasses while riding? 
> I want good coverage, but I don’t want to look like a cyborg, either. *
>
> Lastly, I feel like I am morphing from something that once resembled 
> Practical Cycle Chic into what The Bike Snob would call The Lone Wolf. 
> Picture the polka dot helmet, white arms sleeves, Keen sandals, neck 
> bandanna and Oakleys - it’s not lookin’ good, it’s lookin’ Lone Wolf-y. 
>
> *Should I just embrace it and get wild Oakley’s for the sun? Or do you 
> have a more reasonable suggestion? Is there a gold standard for cycling 
> sunglasses? I have 20/10 vision, they tell me, so prescription is not a 
> factor here. *
>
> Attached is the night glasses I am having made. It’s going to be a couple 
> weeks before I get them. Go ahead and laugh. I am.
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] FS: New Shimano BR-R650 47 / 57 Brakeset

[Jock Dewey]

All:

These have been mounted once, and then quickly taken off. They fit exactly 
like the old ULTEGRA 47 / 57s and are beautifully finished, very nice 
brakes. The frame they were destined for has a rear brake bridge that 
fowled up my plans, doggone it. 

BTW, they are much nicer than the TEKTRO Quartz calipers on the bike, much 
stiffer and better looking IHMO.


I dropped $125 for the pair, shipped and taxed, will part with them for $90 
shipped. Paypal F & F.

Please rsvp offline. Thanks for looking.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[Jock Dewey]

Jason:

Should maybe include a list of disclaimers -- I don't necessarily recommend 
following my tracks. But you can ride coast to coast just like this if 
you're crazy enough and don't know the difference.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/39787656583/in/album-72157704309319711/

BTW, Craig's the expert, follow his advice not mine.

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA



On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:41:08 PM UTC-4, J L wrote:
>
> Hello all, 
>
> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any 
> sage advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the 
> house, do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>
> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a 
> backpack or bike basket and going. 
>
> Jason 
> SF, CA

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[RBW] Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

[Jock Dewey]

Y'all:

So here in Athens, GA we've got many ops for group riding. I ride with a 
couple of different groups regularly, turns out to be 4 or 5 days a week 
with other riders.

What do you all think about bicycle gatherings? We ride in pacelines, wheel 
to wheel, maybe we shouldn't be. When we gather to start or stop, can 
practice social distancing SD, but what about moving down the road. Any 
brilliant ideas?

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] Correction: FS / 35mm Bon Jon Pass ELs

[Jock Dewey]

Apologies: 

Unless you live close to Seattle, new these are at least *$185 *shipped.

$135 (Priority USPS included)

Paypal F & F preferred.

The finest tires ever, just a bit too wide for me. 

BEST / Jock Dewey 
Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

[Jock Dewey]

Indeed. That configuration is the latest RIV design. Not my cup o' tea, but 
certainly rock solid!

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 10:59:34 AM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I have a 59cm Roadeo ( 3+ years old ) and I noticed in the picture of the 
> new Roadeo that the conection of the seat lug and the seat stay looks 
> different. Just an observation.
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:04:03 PM UTC-8, Jock Dewey wrote:
>>
>> Hey, Y'all:
>>
>> Pic of new Nobilette ROADEO on the site, with RH crankset and RH tires. 
>> So there ya go!
>>
>> All good, right?
>>
>> Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>>
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[RBW] New ROADEO

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Y'all:

Pic of new Nobilette ROADEO on the site, with RH crankset and RH tires. So 
there ya go!

All good, right?

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[Jock Dewey]

Shipbikes is a div of LICKTONS, one of the oldest and most reputable bike 
shops in the Chicago area. Bob Lickton has been enmeshed in the bicycle 
industry his entire life and knows what he's doing. 

A great character, emphasis on character!

These companies are just expeditors, so really the only two issues are 1 / 
cost and 2 / who you'd rather have transport and deliver your goods.

BEST / Jock Dewey



On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 6:03:42 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone's input.  Shipbikes seems like a safe bet.
>
> Tom
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 5:21:15 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>>
>> I am seeing significantly less expensive rates using shipbikes vs. 
>> bikeflights for the same size/weight box...whether insurance is included or 
>> not.  I've used bikeflights many times, with no issues (including 1 time I 
>> had to make an insurance claim).  
>>
>> Has anyone had a negative experience on shipbikes?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Jock Dewey]

Thanks, Rob, appreciate the nod!

I was the Waterford marketing guy (catalogs, newsletters, flyers, etc.) 
from 2002 / 2004 -- this was a joyful and important time in my life. 
Richard and I were / are good pals, with bikes and music in common, all 
wonderful stuff.

After I took these photos, I sent him the link. He wrote back to say that 
this mid-80s Paramount was among his favorites and 'finally beginning to 
get the recognition it deserves.' Well, I sure do agree. 

Jock

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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Jock Dewey]

George:

Lucky YOU, sir! 

I loved 70s maybe best in many ways. Not least of those, the glory days of 
Campagnolo RECORD. Oh, my. I have my very first Campy bit, year 73 stamped 
on top, a beautiful Record rear derailer. It's always nearby, in the night 
stand beside our bed (just kidding). The most elegant, ornate, functional 
(tho some disagree), rebuild-able, artful chunk of ALU ever created! No 
argument will convice me otherwise. And I damn near wore the thing out. Not 
scratch on it, and if you've ever seen these for sale, they are almost 
always really scuffed up as the result of careless 'tip overs'. I bought 
the thing before I even had a frame suitable, its equal so to speak. When I 
built my first really nice bike, an Eisentraut, that derailed was the first 
thing I mounted. 

What's yours? My guess is either Brit or French.

I love mystifying the carbons -- once I grab a wheel, I don't let go, haha! 
I think it annoys them, an old guy on an old steel bicycle. An antique in 
many ways. Most don't know really what it is, and they don't care. 

I've been riding the Paramount quite a bit lately. Totally dialed, you 
should ride yours more often!

We are a wonderful, different bunch to be sure. What fun.

BEST / Jock Dewey 



On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 1:28:43 PM UTC-5, George Schick wrote:
>
> JD - I still have a road bike that's set up just about like that purple 
> one, except that the frame and a few of the drive train components are all 
> from the early 70's.  That's my particular nostalgia period and I still 
> ride the bike occasionally and love the way it handles.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 11:41:59 AM UTC-6, Jock Dewey wrote:
>>
>> Here's a little 80s nostalgia for you, I bet some others also feel it on 
>> occasion. When I do, I hop on this and recall those times...and even 
>> further back. It's all good.
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49108000202/in/dateposted-public/
>>  
>>
>> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>>
>> On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 10:25:02 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:
>>>
>>> Another reminder that I am slipping into decrepitude. I  remember 
>>> getting Bridgestone catalogs with him modeling. I had a Pineapple Bob 
>>> t-shirt!!
>>> I have been feeling rather nostalgic lately; missing the 80s; the 
>>> magic's been slowly diminishing since then.
>>> Good luck to him; I  hope he's retiring early enough that he can still 
>>> enjoy it.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Jock Dewey]

P:

I still have mine, right on top of my pile. They look like they're just 
having so much fun -- who wouldn't like to be in that picture?

Jock

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 1:37:49 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I recall the Bridgestone catalogue (aside: I assert that those BBUSA 
> catalogues were among the best ever, across -- bidniss-speak term -- all 
> industries and periods) with Robert and an Asian or Hispanic or Mestizo 
> white/other -- she looked half Asian -- woman on the cover. (It's fine, I 
> can use these terms, I'm lily white/Filipino mestizo, and therefore not 
> subject to the usual scruples.) Who was she, and where did she go?
>
> Patrick Moore, who wishes he'd kept his Bridgestone Bicycles USA 
> catalogues.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Patrick:

Thanks! I've been riding this bike, mostly as it is, for 34 years or so 
now. And it brings me as much joy now, maybe more, than it ever has. That's 
a great gift and I'm thankful for the gifts (of any kind actually).

The crank is what makes this thing possible just now. I built this frame up 
with mostly Campy bits, save for some Suntour I thought worked better, like 
Superbe Pro rear derailed, aero levers (even back that far) but the rest is 
all Campy, brakes, seat post, C-Record hubs. Did have Cinelli stem and 
bars, but alas, need a little higher now so beautiful Nitto fills the bill. 
Actually, Nitto so much prettier than Cinelli anyway, haha!

Crank is IRD Campy copy, but 94 BCD which allows 30 inner and in the North 
Georgia mountains, I need every gear-inch I can get!! BTW, the dearly 
departed and sorely missed Jon Williams (RIP) MR. DRILLIUM REVIVAL, often 
used these for his creations. It is beautifully finished out of the box, as 
nice as any you've seen, and he then tuned them into exquisite rolling 
works of metallic art. He's got plenty of FLIKR images, treat yourself 
sometime when you're not too busy.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54616231@N04/

And last but not least, I've been fussing over and cleaning bikes for a 
long time. It's quite the habit, probably not one a normal person would 
want to cultivate. I vividly recall polishing the chrome chainring on my 
first bike, a second-hand 20"er, until I could see myself in it like a 
mirror. I must have been about 5 years old. All these years later, I'm 
still at it. BTW, I'm no longer embarrassed and certainly not apologetic as 
I have been in the past. I am what I am.

A well-bred race bike, a stage race bike like one is, is a joy to ride. It 
goes straight down the road and the harder you push and stomp on it, the 
straighter it goes. (I've often thought I could easily ride this bike 
no-handed with my eyes closed.) Of course, in its day, Paramount was as 
fine a racing bicycle as any in the world. Probably at the very top of its 
game, if you consider fit and finish, e.g. paint, chrome. Here it is 35 
years later, and not a spot of decay or tarnish or blemish of any kind. And 
it has been ridden, not a garage queen. That what my little obsessions get 
me and for that I'm also grateful.

It is Thanksgiving time, right?

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

 

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 1:24:08 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Jock: *Very* nice!
>
> What is the crank?
>
> And: How do y'all keep your bikes so damned *clean?*
>
> Patrick "got 'seriously' interested in bikes the year Eddy went pro" Moore
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:42 AM Jock Dewey  > wrote:
>
>> Here's a little 80s nostalgia for you, I bet some others also feel it on 
>> occasion. When I do, I hop on this and recall those times...and even 
>> further back. It's all good.
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49108000202/in/dateposted-public/
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[Jock Dewey]

Here's a little 80s nostalgia for you, I bet some others also feel it on 
occasion. When I do, I hop on this and recall those times...and even 
further back. It's all good.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49108000202/in/dateposted-public/ 

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 10:25:02 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:
>
> Another reminder that I am slipping into decrepitude. I  remember getting 
> Bridgestone catalogs with him modeling. I had a Pineapple Bob t-shirt!!
> I have been feeling rather nostalgic lately; missing the 80s; the magic's 
> been slowly diminishing since then.
> Good luck to him; I  hope he's retiring early enough that he can still 
> enjoy it.

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Re: [RBW] Non technical riding gear

[Jock Dewey]

Y'all:

Wow, don't know about the BEMIDJI shirts but those VESTS. Now that's some 
serious vogue. And insulated, too! 

Combine with nice knickers (think JITENSHA) and matching sox, good ol' 
black shoes, so nice! *RSF here we come.*

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA (where we do often wear wool through our warm 
'winters')

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 6:47:41 PM UTC-4, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear Joe,
>
> A Bemidji mills wool shirt 
> <https://www.bemidjiwoolenmills.com/app.php?nav=brand=Bemidji%20Woolen%20Mills>
>  sure 
> does in cool weather. Get the tall version for cycling. 
>
> Pendleton woolies get cheap in the used shops come spring, too.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
> On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 6:34:58 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Does it plane?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Roadeos with 32mm tires and fenders

[Jock Dewey]

I experimented with 35mm ELs under 45mm SKS on my RAM. Enough room to make 
me comfortable, but I prefer 32s and for this setup lots of room.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/48208222422/in/dateposted-public/

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA


On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 11:08:26 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Not a Roadeo, but a 2nd iteration Rambouillet: 35-labled/31-22-actual 
> Kojaks under SKS fenders, with sufficient air. Heck, I've done similar with 
> one of my road customs, which I am pretty sure has less clearance than the 
> Ram did.
>
> I *think* that the Roadeo has similar clearances, no?
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:07 PM John G. > 
> wrote:
>
>> RBWOBers,
>>
>> Have any of you Roadeo owners managed to install fenders AND 32mm tires? 
>> If so, what's the trick (aside from a tolerance for scant clearance)? 
>> Centerpull brakes? Skinny rims? Tires that aren't actually 32mm? 
>>
>> Post your advice, please!
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[RBW] FS / TRADE: TA Zephyr 110bcd chainrings @ 36t

[Jock Dewey]

Good Wednesday Morning:

I have 2 new-in-package *TA Zephyr* 36t *110bcd* chainrings (silver) for 
sale @ $38 shipped each or -- even better -- trade for new TA silvers @ 34t 
*110bcd.*

Please rsvp off-list if interested and thanks so much for looking!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: fresh Riv content on the Radavist, plus TOP TUBE PANNIERS

[Jock Dewey]

Those Carradice bags are the special Rough Stuff Fellowship Archive 
Kickstarter special offering.

If you don't have this book already, you need it!

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA 

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 3:21:13 PM UTC-4, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Amusing Sam Hillborne content over on the Radavist just now (
> https://theradavist.com/2019/08/al-morris-occult-of-cyclocamping-rivendell-sam-hillborne/),
>  
> pretty nice and standard build of a Sam.
>
> But, did anybody know that these existed? 
> https://www.carradice.co.uk/ranges/originals/top-tube-panniers
>
> I did not know I needed them until just a few minutes ago, and now I need 
> them very badly...
>

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[RBW] Re: Swift campout 2019

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Craig:

I'm tempted to pack up and head to AZ to follow you out on one of your epic 
desert trips. I hear you get good sunsets.

Regarding kids, well, we started dragging them along as soon as they could 
sit up. I'm surprised we didn't get busted for child abuse. Oh, we've got 
stories.

Somehow, we got a way with it and now 37 years later, Tyler and I are still 
chasing each other up the hills. I dunno how, but eventually you stop 
trying to figure these things out. 

JD in GA

On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 1:04:15 AM UTC-4, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> Good for you Jock. And you got the family to go. I'd give my right pedal 
> capnut to get my girls to go. Fashion queens both. That's OK. I like going 
> solo. Nobody will ride with me anymore ("think I'll eat some wurm"). 
> Too cranky. Too slow. Had to do my Swift Campout 2 weeks early and it was 
> good timing. Day one was beautiful with tailwinds that actually felt cool 
> in this desert environment. Day 2 was another story. Our first official 
> "hot" day. 20 mph headwinds. 5% humidity. Mid-90's. Drank 3 liters of water 
> in 33 miles and when I got in could barely stand. Slurred speech. Weak. 
> Dehydration to the max. It was fun. 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/albums/72157708958249933
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:46:09 AM UTC-7, Jock Dewey wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Y'all:
>>
>> Indeed, but a week early. That's OK, right?
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/albums/72157709114278761
>>
>> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>>
>> On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 3:49:45 PM UTC-4, Neil Doran wrote:
>>>
>>> Anybody else observing the Swift campout this year? My little crew has 
>>> been doing the same route for at least a few years now, riding from SF thru 
>>> Planet of the Apes and ending up at the quite primo hike-n-bike camping at 
>>> Half Moon Bay state park.
>>>
>>> Bike camping on summer solstice weekend (or closest to it) hits a sweet 
>>> spot as it allows me to trade the encroaching heat of the foothills for 
>>> coastal breezes; I get to ride through SF, which I love to do at least 2x 
>>> per year; and the POTA trail is just so extremely fun and unique.
>>>
>>> Anybody else getting out next weekend for a bike overnight?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Swift campout 2019

[Jock Dewey]

Hi, Y'all:

Indeed, but a week early. That's OK, right?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/albums/72157709114278761

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 3:49:45 PM UTC-4, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Anybody else observing the Swift campout this year? My little crew has 
> been doing the same route for at least a few years now, riding from SF thru 
> Planet of the Apes and ending up at the quite primo hike-n-bike camping at 
> Half Moon Bay state park.
>
> Bike camping on summer solstice weekend (or closest to it) hits a sweet 
> spot as it allows me to trade the encroaching heat of the foothills for 
> coastal breezes; I get to ride through SF, which I love to do at least 2x 
> per year; and the POTA trail is just so extremely fun and unique.
>
> Anybody else getting out next weekend for a bike overnight?
>

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[RBW] Re: New-to-me: 59cm Roadeo

[Jock Dewey]

Beautiful machine, Bill! Nice work.

Grant's designs all ride so so well, and these two, RAM & ROADEO, just rise 
like cream. Why, oh why, however, doesn't that true road bike, ROADEO, have 
bosses for DT shifters. A quirky Grantism I guess, they* all *seem to have 
one buried in there somewhere.

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA



On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 3:38:41 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I haven't been active on the "Daily post Your Riv" thread, so this seemed 
> kind of out of place.  I've always been a 'roadie' first and foremost.  
> I've always had a bike in my stable that's a stripped down road bike.  The 
> slot in my stable has always existed, but there's been a bit of flux on 
> which bike fills that slot.  Regardless of the bike that fills my "road 
> bike" slot, in my heart the right bike to permanently occupy that slot is 
> the Roadeo.  For several years I've been filling that slot with placeholder 
> bikes that I consider functionally equivalent, but I've always been 
> confident that a 59cm Roadeo would be mine someday.
>
> Turns out a 59cm Roadeo cam available on I-Bob at a good price and I 
> jumped on it.  I had been so prepared to own a Roadeo that the build came 
> together from parts I already had in stock.  The only new part I bought to 
> do this build was the red Newbaums.  
>
> Frameset: 59cm Roadeo, Chris king red no-threadset
> Wheelset: White Industries, HED Belgium, Compass Stampede Pass EL
> Drivetrain: Rene Herse 42/26, White Industries Ti BB, Shimano SPD pedals, 
> Dura Ace 10sp RD, CX70 FD, Shimano Barcons, 11-28 cassette, SRAM1091 chain
> Components: generic carbon seatpost, Avocet O2 saddle, Soba Noodle bars, 
> Campy Xenon brakelevers ("gutted"), Shimano brakes, Cinelli Sesamo stem, 
> King Cage Ti
>
> PHOTO <https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/47979632627>
>
> I've only had it out on one short ride on it, but this build has been 
> ready in my head for so many years, that it was kind of like "of course 
> it's perfect".  I'm certain I could go do a century on it tomorrow
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Also ISO Cambium C17 men's

[Jock Dewey]

On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 4:12:57 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Want, want, want. Well, I also want a C17 in usable condition; need not be 
> nice looking, as I want at this point merely to see if it allows both a 
> more rearward pedaling position and more upward nose tilt than the original 
> issue Flite; this on the Dahon Hon Solo. 
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
> ---
> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews
> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching
> Other professional writing services
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
>
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[RBW] FS: NOS Suntour XC Pro Front Derailleurs

[Jock Dewey]

Hello, ST folks:

I have 3 very nice NOS XC PRO front derailers for sale. (My collection got 
out of hand.)

2 ea. @ 31.8 clamp and 1 ea. @ 35.0 clamp

These are not the Micro Drive cages, just so you know.

$35 each shipped.

Thanks for looking (also posted to BOB list).

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: Updated A. Homer Hilsen

[Jock Dewey]

Brian:

Very nice work there, perfect proportions all around. And that ACORN! Such 
wonderful workmanship, we've got those on all our bikes, so useful and 
classy. 

Bravo.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 5:41:51 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Apologies in advance for the indoor lighting (currently 3 inches of 
> ice/freezing rain outside) but figured I would share some pictures of my 
> updated AHH. I bought the frame from Riv in 2013 and at the time, brazed on 
> Paul center pull brakes were not an option.
>
> Fast forward to current day. I took the frame and fork to Hanford Cycles 
> in Philadelphia for the following mods:
>
> Braze on mounts for Paul Racer Center Pull brakes
> Threaded rear fender mounts (brake & chainstay bridge)
> Provisions for Internal wiring in the down tube and front fork
> Chain hanger
>
> Since the work would require some re-painting I also included a set of 
> Honjo fenders to have them painted the same color as the frame. They did a 
> great job matching the existing paint and even gave me the leftovers for 
> future touch ups. 
>
>
> <https://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/AHH/IMG_20190212_171716914_zpsgh1bi5lh.jpg>
>
>
> <http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/AHH/IMG_20190211_220629193_zpsp8hqktlr.jpg>
>
>
> <http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/AHH/IMG_20190211_220619782_zpszoog2jkx.jpg>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis touch-up paint, Testors #2135 Russian Naval Interior

[Jock Dewey]

Whoa! That's Aussie...sorry!

On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 9:34:29 AM UTC-5, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> It looks like these folks still have a bottle or two:
>
> https://andrewsscalemodels.com.au/product/mm-russian-interior-blue-green/
>
> This is the color GP sourced to paint the first ATL, but that was years 
> ago. Color wanders but you can tweek easily to make it match.
>
> BEST / Jock "Ex TESTORS" Dewey / Athens, GA
>
> On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 3:15:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Grim wrote:
>>
>> Greetings, I recently bought my first Rivendell, an Atlantis.  Wanting to 
>> be prepared for the inevitable dings, I have been looking for the 
>> appropriate touch-up paint (Testors #2135 Russian Naval Interior 
>> Blue-Green).  Sadly, it does not seem to be available anymore.  
>> HobbyLinc[dot]com says it has been discontinued, and amazon[dot]com says 
>> it's out of stock and they don't know whether they'll ever get any more.  I 
>> checked another model-making supplier who also did not have it (but I don't 
>> remember which site it was).
>>
>> Can any of you folks confirm or disfirm that this paint has ben 
>> discontinued?  My local hobby shop doesn't have any.  Have you seen any 
>> dusty bottles on the shelf of your local hobby shop?  If it truly has 
>> become completely unavailable that would be a real bummer.
>>
>> Thanks, Eric "Limper" Grim
>> Spokane, Wash.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis touch-up paint, Testors #2135 Russian Naval Interior

[Jock Dewey]

It looks like these folks still have a bottle or two:

https://andrewsscalemodels.com.au/product/mm-russian-interior-blue-green/

This is the color GP sourced to paint the first ATL, but that was years 
ago. Color wanders but you can tweek easily to make it match.

BEST / Jock "Ex TESTORS" Dewey / Athens, GA

On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 3:15:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Grim wrote:
>
> Greetings, I recently bought my first Rivendell, an Atlantis.  Wanting to 
> be prepared for the inevitable dings, I have been looking for the 
> appropriate touch-up paint (Testors #2135 Russian Naval Interior 
> Blue-Green).  Sadly, it does not seem to be available anymore.  
> HobbyLinc[dot]com says it has been discontinued, and amazon[dot]com says 
> it's out of stock and they don't know whether they'll ever get any more.  I 
> checked another model-making supplier who also did not have it (but I don't 
> remember which site it was).
>
> Can any of you folks confirm or disfirm that this paint has ben 
> discontinued?  My local hobby shop doesn't have any.  Have you seen any 
> dusty bottles on the shelf of your local hobby shop?  If it truly has 
> become completely unavailable that would be a real bummer.
>
> Thanks, Eric "Limper" Grim
> Spokane, Wash.
>

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[RBW] Re: Hats Off To...

[Jock Dewey]

Allez, TJD!

That's a beautiful bike & a brute of a ride, not for the faint of heart. 

Hogpen Gap is genuine CAT 2 climb, steep and fearsome. Probably one of only 
2 or 3 steels on the roads that day and certainly no other fenders or 
frontloaders to be seen.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 1:03:37 PM UTC-5, Tyler Dewey wrote:
>
> I love my canti-Sam. I got it with the thought that I would use it as my 
> camping bike, but it is so comfortable--and fast enough for my needs--that 
> it has become my primary ride. I've taken it on back-to-back centuries 
> (Athens to Savannah: 220 miles in 2 days) and I did the North Georgia 6 Gap 
> century on it. That was 10K + of climbing over 104 miles. For me, it is the 
> perfect bike. Here's a photo of it at the top of Unicoi Gap where the road 
> crosses the Appalachian Trail.
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 9:55:56 AM UTC-5, RichS wrote:
>>
>> I like it Tyler. Kudos to you for promoting safe cycling in Athens. Once 
>> the holidays are over I want to come over
>> and meet you and your dad.
>>
>> PS - Wishing my Sam had cantis! 
>>
>> Happy Holidays
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 57-59cm All Rounder Frame

[Jock Dewey]

I do believe 'College Park' Larry Black also owns Mt. Airy, and ~ yes ~ big 
collection of old bikes and must assume big warehouse. I do also believe he 
has no need to sell any of them.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA 

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:52:00 PM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> I've never been there, but probably should just to see in person what he 
> has in his collection.  I understand that he has loads of bikes on hand.
> All the best,
> Kevin
>
>
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:12:13 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I agree. I checked with him in 2011 so he's had it for at least 
>> that long. Strange way to run a bike shop. Have you been there? Does he 
>> have a big warehouse to store all those bikes? I envision something like I 
>> see on American Pickers.
>>
>> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 6:24:52 PM UTC-8, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim -
>>> As it happens, Mt. Airy Bikes is only about an hour from my house and 
>>> I've been in touch with the owner more than once about that bike.  He 
>>> doesn't seem anxious to sell it, despite the fact that it's been in his 
>>> shop for several years.  At any rate, in my humble opinion, he's either 
>>> charging too much for it or I'm not making enough money, 'cause it seems 
>>> excessively expensive.
>>> All the best,
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 8:27:01 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This one has been at Mt Airy Bikes for a long time: 
>>>> http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3804
>>>>
>>>> Pretty high asking price last time I checked, which was 2011.
>>>>
>>>> jim m
>>>> walnut creek, ca
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 1:05:41 PM UTC-8, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A bit of a long shot here, but does anyone happen to have a 57 or 59cm 
>>>>> All Rounder frame that's looking for a new home?  If so, please PM me and 
>>>>> let's chat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin Lindsey
>>>>> Alexandria, VA
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Hats Off To...

[Jock Dewey]

...all you folks like Josh Imler...who respect the working bicycle and are 
happy to spend the $$$ to make really artful yet useful machines and 
support all the good guys out there who make them.

We live in a small town with great access, right out the front door, to 
beautiful country backroads in all directions...but running errands and 
such that makes proper use of 'working bikes' just isn't possible thanks to 
no reasonably safe way to get to *those* kinds of places, i.e. the local 
merchants. Weird, right? But true. Of course, as we know, life's all about 
trade-offs. I'd love both but am plenty happy to settle for one.

Bravo for building a Grant Petersen 'special' and pulling your Christmas 
tree home on that beautiful bicycle.

Happy Holidays / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

 

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[RBW] Re: handlebar/stem bags - what do people like?

[Jock Dewey]

And BTW, plenty of room in GB192 for SLR and lenses with foam insert. Not 
too big, but plenty big enough...with some room to spare. Grab it right out 
of bag with just a quick slip of elastic band. 

We've owned lots of bags through the years, beginning with old TA circa 
1970, but this surpasses all in function and style. In fancy NYC store 
selling fine leather goods, this would be hundreds and hundreds of $$$. 
Sometimes we get such a deal.

Jock Dewey / Athens GA

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:20 AM UTC-10, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Here's a Waterford setup with GB192 and NITTO F15. Solid and stable as can 
> be. Fits 54cm perfectly.
>
> Great fun, keeping up with all the local carbons is such fine training! (I 
> think I annoy some of them, to be honest.) In solid rotation with RAM and 
> EBISU and another lightweight and the back and forth always keeps the ride 
> fresh. And as we say, fashion has consequences.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:13:54 AM UTC-10, Neil Doran wrote:
>>
>> What do folks like for handlebar/stem bags, especially ones that can hold 
>> an SLR with short lens? I missed the boat on the Riv product a while back.
>>
>> I have a Carsick Designs stem bag that I love, but it is first gen meant 
>> only for a bike water bottle. Need bigger.
>>
>> Randi Jo looks great, just not sure it is wide enough. I'm sure I would 
>> not regret the purchase, tho.
>>
>> Revelate seems to be a standard-bearer, and apparently has one-handed 
>> operation, which seems slick.
>>
>> Any opinions out there?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Recomendations For Cycling-Specific Vehicle

[Jock Dewey]

A resounding YES indeed. 

This is the most utilitarian cycling accessory ever conceived. It has all 
kinds of hooks and such inside to bungee bikes safely and securely. I've 
taken the rear seats out of mine...it's an older one with the rubber-like 
mats throughout. Just lift 'em up and wheel 'em right in. I bought it new 
in 2004 and I am way too attached to this thing. Nevermind its good looks 
and wonderful view of the road.

Like the previous poster proclaimed, I will do whatever it takes to keep it 
on the road as long as I'm capable of swinging a leg over the TT.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
 
On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 7:20:34 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I bought my Honda Element for precisely this reason. Bikes roll into the 
> back with the wheels on. No disassembly at all. Carries a bunch of stuff, 
> durable and very dependable.
>
> Unfortunately, Honda stopped making them a few years ago. But … they made 
> a lot of them, so you should be able to find one used. They all look pretty 
> much the same; the later models had some minor exterior changes that 
> included a switch to having the entire vehicle painted in the same color. 
>
> I’m planning to hold onto mine until gas goes out of style.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Sep 25, 2018, at 4:07 PM, PG <4thgea...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Question for the RBW brain trust...
>
> If you were going to buy a vehicle for the primary purpose of transporting 
> a bike -- and I'm only talking about carrying one bike -- what would it be? 
>
> Guidelines:  Under 40Gs, and preferably with the bike carried and lockable 
> inside the vehicle.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul
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[RBW] Re: Lights and Tariffs

[Jock Dewey]

Another casualty among so so many these past 18 months. I have good 
industry pals who worked very hard to make that company what it is. Or 
maybe now, was.

We are the walking / cycling wounded. A good long hard fast ride helps 
control the angst, however. 

So that is what we do.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA





On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 7:33:58 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Story from today’s All Things Considered on NPR about tariffs and their 
> effect on Light and Motion, a well-known California-based maker of bike and 
> other lights:
>
>
> https://www.npr.org/2018/09/24/651221317/u-s-tariffs-on-china-may-force-california-company-to-move-production-overseas
>  
>
> Take-home points:
>
> —They make lights here from parts sourced from China and other Asian 
> countries
> —The parts they import are subject to a new tariff, but completed lights 
> (made overseas from the same parts) are not
> —They are considering moving their assembly overseas to avoid the tariffs 
> by assembling the lights there and importing them as complete systems
>
> --Eric N
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini - How do you like yours?

[Jock Dewey]

Nice looking bike, Joe. Good job.

Question: why do you suppose the brake cable runs on top of the tube rather 
than at approx 8 pm? Doesn't get in the way slightly under.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA



On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:33:26 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> You probably just saw this cuz I posted it today, but here they are again 
> check em out oh yeah! 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5CBYUsrzVVfGrYWA
>
> I sized up to run sweepback bars, but as you see it's otherwise set up as 
> a basic unladen road bike. I've had a few Rivs and, like you, they always 
> end up racked and bagged because they just seem like they're meant to be. 
> My goal with the Roadini was to definitely NOT do that this time, I just 
> want small seat and bar bags and have that lovely Riv ride in a 
> lighter/shorter "just hop and go" bike. 
>
> I can't give long distance reports because I don't ride that way, I just 
> tootle over hill and dale around-and-near town, but so far I'm loving its 
> slightly magical combination of sprightly feel with stable handling. I 
> think you'll like it. 
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Jock Dewey]

That sounds like a firetruck with siren blasting!! 

Come up fast behind someone and they'd mess their shorts.

Jock

On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:53:05 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> So she passed you while coasting? That's not embarrassing. I've been 
> passed by trail runners on a couple occasions. 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5I01ckhFFc
>
> Fifteen years in, the buzz diminishes quite a bit. My next hub is an Onyx. 
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 9:57:08 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>>
>> Anyone got a sound clip of the CK hub buzzing?
>>
>> Once a rider passed me and their hub sounded like a Vibraslap.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, William:

I'm having a little trouble with reply RBW, so will try this.

I'm very interested in your 59 cm ROADEO. Do you have pictures and can you 
tell me a little about it? 

I'll pull trigger quickly if all's right.

Thanks!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:01:29 PM UTC-4, William! wrote:
>
> Def interested in that Legolas! And a heads up to the rest of you that I 
> will be selling my 59cm Roadeo to fund this .

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, William:

I'm very interested in your 59 cm ROADEO. Do you have pictures and can you 
tell me a little about it? 

I'll pull trigger quickly if all's right.

Thanks!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 12:01:29 PM UTC-4, William! wrote:
>
> Def interested in that Legolas! And a heads up to the rest of you that I 
> will be selling my 59cm Roadeo to fund this .

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote:
>
> In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a 
> blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both 
> as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part them 
> out, but we’ll see. Stay tuned for details. Just a heads-up for now. 
>  —Forrest (Iowa City, go Hawkeyes) 
>

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote:
>
> In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a 
> blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both 
> as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part them 
> out, but we’ll see. Stay tuned for details. Just a heads-up for now. 
>  —Forrest (Iowa City, go Hawkeyes) 
>

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[RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Jock Dewey]

On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote:
>
> In the next few weeks I will likely post for sale here (if allowed to) a 
> blue Rambouillet 60cm and a copper (new penny) Legolas 59cm. Ideally both 
> as nearly complete bikes (minus just a few parts). I’d rather not part them 
> out, but we’ll see. Stay tuned for details. Just a heads-up for now. 
>  —Forrest (Iowa City, go Hawkeyes) 
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

[Jock Dewey]

Ooops! Sorry...this is RBW! 

What WAS I thinking? I guess: not.

JD

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:39:39 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, RAMBob:
>
> Looks like an older one, from the shop in Japan. You also forgot to 
> mention LOGIC chainset, and by looks of markings, ridden quite carefully. 
> Chips don't show in pix, so must be incidental. 
>
> I think enough of mine that JB repainted it a couple years ago...absolute 
> perfection so far as it exists. Now 14 years old and better than ever. BTW, 
> I've comfortably installed 35mm Bon Jon Pass on OP rims with P45 mudguards, 
> too. Probably even more room with Honjo...tho 35s seem just too wide for my 
> sensibilities here. The RAM sweet spot is 32 IMHO.
>
> My son in LA recently found one for $1600, but it was 'as new'. Not a 
> blemish on it. He didn't steal it, but might as well have.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 8:57:21 PM UTC-4, James Copp wrote:
>>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> I am seeking help appraising a Rambouillet, and looking for details on 
>> the frame in regards to year made and location.  A friend has offered to 
>> sell me his 58cm Rambouillet before he posts it publicly.  It includes
>> Nitto Stem
>> Nitto Bars
>> Velo Orange Seat Post
>> Brooks Saddle
>> New Shwalbe Tires
>> Mavic Open Pro Rims
>> Ultegra derailurs
>> Tekrto R538 Brakes
>> Its an 8 speed in the back, 3 in the front
>>
>> The frame has cosmetic damages
>>
>> What is a fair price for this ride?  I am new to the Rivendell world. 
>>  Thank you.
>>
>> (I attached a photo)
>>
>

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[RBW] SOLD: Pair / Panaracer RACE A EVO 'Gravel' / 32mm

[Jock Dewey]

Thanks for looking!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Jock Dewey]

Re: RAM 32 / 35

Forgot to mention, this fit is on Mavic OP. So wider rims probably won't 
affect 32s but maybe 35s.

JD

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 10:10:16 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, RAMBobs:
>
> I have Toyo RAM circa 2004 and it fits Compass 32s and SKS P45 Longboards 
> just fine. 
>
> Will fit 35s as well but that's maybe a little tight for most of you. 
> Doesn't bother me, but 35s seem a bit much for this bicycle.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
>> current setup won't allow it.
>>
>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
>> switch to 650b.
>>
>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different 
>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on 
>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go 
>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and 
>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>
>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Jock Dewey]

Re: RAM and 32 / 35s

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 10:10:16 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, RAMBobs:
>
> I have Toyo RAM circa 2004 and it fits Compass 32s and SKS P45 Longboards 
> just fine. 
>
> Will fit 35s as well but that's maybe a little tight for most of you. 
> Doesn't bother me, but 35s seem a bit much for this bicycle.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
>> current setup won't allow it.
>>
>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
>> switch to 650b.
>>
>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different 
>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on 
>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go 
>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and 
>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>
>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, RAMBobs:

I have Toyo RAM circa 2004 and it fits Compass 32s and SKS P45 Longboards 
just fine. 

Will fit 35s as well but that's maybe a little tight for most of you. 
Doesn't bother me, but 35s seem a bit much for this bicycle.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
> current setup won't allow it.
>
> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
> switch to 650b.
>
> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different frame 
> and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on what 
> I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go bigger 
> than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and just 
> need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>
> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>

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[RBW] Re: How rusty does the inside of a frame get without rust proofing? This rusty.

[Jock Dewey]

Great discussion and plenty of good info. 

I'll add this FWIW: I spent two delightful years working for Richard 
Schwinn in Waterford, WI, early 2000s. As far as data points go, he's got 
quite a few of 'em to be sure. When asked about rusty frames, he responds 
that he has *never* seen a steel frame rust from the inside out. That's 
plenty good for me...yet I continue to Boeshield mine. Go figure, ha!

BEST REGARDS / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:53:27 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> I agree, Ron. I've actually done a bit of metalworking in my day. I would 
> say, though, that with reasonable care, and excluding environments that 
> continually expose bicycles to dampness and or salty water/humid air, most 
> bicycles will not rot out from the inside, at least not for several 
> lifetimes. If I am doing a complete rebuild, and the bike is outside, and I 
> have a can of Boeshield in my hand, I'm not averse to squeezing off a few 
> shots into the bowels of a Reynolds 531. But not a top priority for me.
>
> On Sunday, July 1, 2018 at 10:53:42 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>>
>> The point of corrosion inhibition is stop the process where it's at.  You 
>> don't know the history of every frame you buy, but if you use this type of 
>> product inside the frame and store it indoors, it will last.  
>> If it's actively corroding and you expose it to a continued humid 
>> environment, it's going to keep corroding until something breaks.  
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: N+4?

[Jock Dewey]

Eddie:

We need pix ASAP of you riding 3 at same time, that's quite a feet! Much as 
I try with my 4, I can only get one going at time.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 10:44:23 AM UTC-4, eflayer wrote:
>
> i can't ride more than 3 bikes at the same time, so my herd is limited to 
> three. one steel, one titanium, one carbon.
>
> On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 7:00:47 AM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote:
>>
>> As someone wisely pointed out on this group, if you see a Riv frame you 
>> like, it's best to buy it when it's offered. On that basis, I just ordered 
>> a New Atlantis, a.k.a. MIT Atlantis, a.k.a. LWB Atlantis. It's a 59cm, 
>> meaning 700C with a truss. The joke is that I already have three other 
>> builds queued up (an Ocean Air Rambler 700C, a Sam Hilborne, and an old 
>> Nobilette go-fast); I've done a really good job of not getting to these, 
>> due to a range of distractions, but have full build kits for the Rambler 
>> and Hillborne, and need to spend some quality time in the basement, putting 
>> them together. Given that it's also prime riding season, what this really 
>> means is that I need some weather foul enough to make me prefer wrenching 
>> to riding.
>>
>> So why, when I already have builds for three more very likable bicycles 
>> queued up, on top of five bikes already in the stable that give me real 
>> satisfaction to ride, would I go and order another frameset? Rocks in my 
>> head? Poor impulse control? Probably. But it falls out like this, I think: 
>> I've got a soft spot in my head for touring bikes, and already own two; 
>> I've got another soft spot in my head for Compass tires, and was an early 
>> adopter of Barlows, RTPs, and Snoqs, all Extralights; none of my current 
>> bikes would accommodate the Antelope Pass, I've wanted an Atlantis for 
>> years, and the Riv long chainstays experiment is intriguing; I have also 
>> admired the old ANT truss bikes, and missed the window for those. So, 
>> godnose when I'll get it built, but I've taken the plunge...
>>
>> ... and when they are all built, what on earth am I going to do with 9 
>> bikes? My bicycle hobby is turning into one of those "if present trends 
>> continue" jokes... 
>>
>> rod
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, RustBOBS:

Others will likely chime in here to the contrary, but when I worked for 
Richard Schwinn at Waterford, he told me he had NEVER seen a steel frame 
rust from the inside out. 

Lots of data points there, if nothing else.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 8:12:41 AM UTC-4, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> I purchased a custom steel frame in 1978, built it up, tore it down and 
> built it back up numerous times since, still ride it and never frame 
> saver’d it.  The bike has been commuted on and toured on rain and shine. 
>  It has lived in humid climates and dry.  I ask, has anyone ever seen a 
> reasonably cared for steel frame rust out from the inside? 
>
> Bill

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Re: [RBW] Ram in the Dirt

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Patrick:

I was playing around with my RAM the other day and discovered Compass 35s 
easily fit just fine with SKS 45mm mudguards. This on Open Pro rims, 
however. 

Decided 35s just didn't work aesthetically for me, however. Fashion has 
consequences, right? So went with 32s instead. Perfect ride now and was 
really really good before.

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 1:47:04 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'm curious about the max tire size for a blue Ram. I did use the 
> so-called 35 mm Kojaks on mine for a while, though I think they measured 
> more like 32 on the Open Pros, but they did leave ample room for fenders.
>
> Can you squeeze in anything bigger than a true 35?
>
> Didn't you just sell a pair of new, Bon Jon Pass 35s?
>
> And finally: photo of the fat-tired Ram? (Apology if you have already 
> posted one and I missed it.)
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Matt <matt.r...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> In 2003 the only bike I owned was a mid-70s 3-speed Raleigh Sport that I 
>> rode to work every day and locked up on the street. Somehow I got my hands 
>> on a Reader, Grant's philosophy resonated with me and next thing I knew I 
>> had a blue Ram. I didn't know the first thing about tire sizes and riding 
>> styles but I knew the Ram was comfortable and it could take fenders and I 
>> was only ever going to ride on pavement on the east coast, so I put 28s on 
>> it and never looked back. Many, many years later and now I'm on the west 
>> coast and I know a lot more about bikes and I also know about fire roads. 
>> So I finally hung the fenders up and maxed out the tires and wouldn't you 
>> know it, but Los Angeles has miles and miles of dirt roads (doesn't hurt 
>> that LA covers a massive area). Took a ride a few weeks back that looks 
>> downright country but happened to be in the second largest city in the US.
>>
>> I still have that Raleigh, btw, and it's still perfect for leaving 
>> outside.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/QPUjLMgJOP8jEhx22
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[RBW] Re: Canti Sam Hillborne: No Cable Hangers

[Jock Dewey]

Hi, Y'all:

I have a slightly OT que regarding canti-SAM.

Instead of the brazed on DT cable stops, why not posts for either stops or 
DT shifters? Using barend levers, but w/out the barrel adjusters no way to 
pull up or release rear D cable slack w/out stopping and fiddling with 
adjustment at the derailer. 

Both require brazing so doesn't seem like $$ or time issue. It's so handy 
being able to adjust on the fly. BTW using Shimano XT 760 low-normal, 
really nice derailer.

Or is there a solution I'm missing?

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 10:41:11 AM UTC-4, d2mini wrote:
>
> Just received my SH Canti frame and realized there was no cable hangers 
> included, permanent or otherwise.
> Had to order some for front and back.
> They went through the trouble to weld on the brake mounts... why not a 
> rear cable hanger? Or tossing in some add-ons with included headset and 
> seat post?
> Not a big deal, just kinda curious on that decision.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Journal Entry up at Analog Cycles: Disconnecting to get connected: A Journey in Satchidananda

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Joe:

The rest you leave to your fertile imagination. I think that's the 
Satchidananda part.

But, of course, I could be mistaken.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 8:39:50 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I probably only understood about 40% of that, but it was cool!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr L

[Jock Dewey]

Y'all:

Indeed, I'm just wishing IB bought and sold road bikes in *my* size (58 / 
59 please & thank you) at same pace, e.g. Hilsen, Atlantis, Chapman, 
Bishop, Legolas, Lyon, *Saluki *

Wow, I'd be totally headed to N

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-4, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> Bill, 
>
> Belopsky's frantic pace of bike acquisition and disposal is a good thing 
> for the community for several reasons: 
>
> 1) It provides many opportunities for those his size (alas, or perhaps, 
> thankfully not me...) to get barely ridden, almost new bikes at a discount. 
> 2) It makes my own bike churning tendencies look positively ascetic. 
> 3) It boosts Riv and other purveyors' sales as he tries one new bike after 
> another. 
>
> I salute his commitment to the search for his "perfect" bike and I 
> sincerely hope that he someday finds a bike that he likes well enough to 
> keep...  and propose that he should name at least one bike Rocinante.:) 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 9:49:42 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> What did you do silly?  Buy a Clem L that you don’t really want, so now 
>> it’s for sale?  Bought way too many bikes way too fast and somebody has 
>> decided you should settle down to fewer bikes?  Bought yet another bike or 
>> bikes and need $1600 to pay for them?   
>>
>> BL in EC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Thomson Elite Seatpost -- 26.8 -- with New Sam H.: Seems... Small...?

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Michael:

When all else fails, of course, there's the old 'beer can' shim trick. That 
*always* works, plus you get to drink the beer!

BEST REGARDS / Jock Dewey

On Monday, March 26, 2018 at 1:18:25 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I have a few thoughts. First off, when in doubt, call Riv. Second, I have 
> experience with many Rivendell seat lugs. They are very stout and so it 
> does take some force to get the seatpost clamp bolt tight. Also, it is 
> possible for the head of the bolt to bind in its hole, making it feel 
> tighter than it is. The classic indicator of that type of binding is it 
> will kind of chirp at you as you loosen it. Make sure there’s greas on that 
> interface under the head of the bolt. Finally I’ve heard anecdotal stuff 
> about Thomson having tolerance issues.  Try any other 26.8mm post, 
> preferably another brand. If a different post behaves better, then you 
> Thomson post is more likely the issue. 
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca 

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[RBW] Re: For trade or sale: Rivendell Frank Jones Sr 53cm

[Jock Dewey]

Wow, Igor!

You are one industrious fellow! 

Just curious, do you go through other stuff like your bikes and bike parts? 
And where do you find the time, haha!

Anyway, you keep us all looking, that's for sure.

BEST / Jock Dewey

On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 7:33:14 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> BUMP

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[RBW] Re: wtb: Homer Hilsen - 59cm

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, SAMBobs:

Well, I'll weigh in here as a longtime RAMrider and now somewhat 
experienced SAMrider. Also have other racy lightweight bicycles hanging 
around for comparison.

My son and I just finished building his SAM with very nice wheels (White 
Ind / H PLUS SON TB14) and fat -- for me -- Compass 38mm tires. To say I 
was astonished at how lively the bike feels, all subjective of course, is a 
whopping understatement. A totally delightful surprise. I'm probably 
willing to admit that it feels just as fast and 'sporty' and pleasing in 
every regard as my sweet old RAM. 

The only nitpicking thing I don't care for is that kickstand plate, but 
some HHs are found with those things, too.

Wow, those tires and a light, well-designed frame are just ridiculous and 
may have changed my crusty old thinking regarding these set ups. So I'll 
line up with those who guess that you'll likely be splitting vey fine hairs 
to compare the two.

BEST REGARDS / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA 

On Monday, February 26, 2018 at 3:17:33 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> If I was in the market for a used 59cm Hilsen, I would give serious 
> consideration to a NEW 55cm canti-Hillborne.  The used Hilsen might be 
> fancier, I'll grant.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 26, 2018 at 11:46:36 AM UTC-8, Eric wrote:
>>
>> Anyone looking to part with a 59cm Homer Hilsen?
>>
>> I'm partial to one w/ 3 bottle cages but open to anything!
>>
>> Thanks!! 
>>
>

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[RBW] New SAM / spoke / hub Q

[Jock Dewey]

Good MON morning:

We have a new black SAM arriving soon (my son's actually) to compliment a 
few other fine machines and we're accumulating bits and pieces to get make 
it road worthy.

Specifically, we have H Plus SON TB14 rims we are building around a White 
Industries mnt. hubset...32 / 36 / 3X. Can any of you suggest a good (i.e. 
easy-to-use) calculator so we can determine spoke length for this 
configuration? I'm a seasoned wheel builder but working with wheel 
calculators has never been much fun for me, haha!

Better yet, if someone can just hammer it out for me, I'll send you a $10 
RIV gift certificate. What a deal, eh?

Thanks for the help, much appreciated.

BEST / Jock Dewey / in almost summer-like Athens, GA


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[RBW] Re: Light but strong wheels for a Sam or ???

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, RIMBob:

Here's a nice review on a fine looking classic silver rim. A little wider 
than my Open Pros, but that's a good thing these days, right?

Modern Bike also sells them, a tad less expensive. Other BOBs seem to like 
these.

https://www.artscyclery.com/reviews/HPTB14/HPTB14review.html

BEST / Jock Dewey / Snowy Athens, GA (altho 54 degrees tomorrow!!)



On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:34:33 PM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Anything I know about rims is probably rooted too far in the past to be 
> useful so I am curious about what people are doing and using.
>
> If one were to build up a relatively light and fast wheel set, rim brake, 
> 700c, for 700x30-47mm tires, ~195-200lb rider with maybe 10-12 pounds of 
> gear, something tough enough for unpaved trails and imperfect roads but not 
> necessarily singletrack...
>
> What rims/hubs/build specs (28 vs 32 vs 36h?, 2x/3x lacing?) would you use 
> or have used with success?  Just curious as the suggestion has come up a 
> lot (for lighter wheels) and my knowledge is limited as to what is now out 
> there, especially for rim-brake wheels.  I know too that narrower rims can 
> be used for wider tires but it would still be great to be within 
> recommended widths, at least close.
>
> Any help appreciated - and it might be useful to others as well.
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL 
>

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[RBW] Re: Good New/Bad News on my repaired Atlantis

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Y'all:

Yes, indeed!

I KNOW because I worked for TESTORS for nearly a quarter-century and also 
with GRANT over a period of months to get him dozens of paint samples and 
many sets of paint chips. (He will remember those early morning FED EX 
deliveries I'm quite sure.) In the early 2000s, his intention was to have 
all RIV frames painted to match TESTORS for the great convenience, 
but...alas...that morphed over time as often things do in this life.

ATLANTIS, however, was the first of the experiments and so is exactly 
TESTORS 2135. That's the story and I'm sticking to it!

So have a go and you'll be spot on. You and all the hundreds of happy / 
lucky ATLANTIS riders. 

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA (RAM rider myself)

PS: TESTORS can be found in all good hobby shop, MICHAELS craft stores, 
HOBBY LOBBY.)

On Saturday, January 6, 2018 at 8:53:06 AM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>
> The good news: I got my Atlantis back! I won't get into the details, but 
> it had to go to two different framebuilders to get realigned. It's riding 
> great now.
>
> The bad news: it came back with a dozen or so new chips in the paint. I'm 
> not interested in pointing fingers: the frame went between the shop and the 
> two framebuilders, and it could've happened anywhere (or everywhere). I'm a 
> little bummed--I'd like all beausage on the frame to come from my own 
> personal use.
>
> I'll probably get some touch up paint from Waterford, but does anyone have 
> some Family Secret rust prevention tips in the meantime? I'm the slushy and 
> salty NYC area, and I STILL haven't put fenders on the bike. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Found Stolen Riv in LA - Help me find the owner!

[Jock Dewey]

Well, Philip, that was such a wonderful, kind-hearted gesture...made my 
Sunday morning. What a joy!

Hope you find the owner and that he/she takes you out for a nice dinner 
somewhere. BTW, we visit LA and our kids regularly. Lots of nice machines 
out there and you've got to hang on tight!

BEST REGARDS / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 11:42:43 AM UTC-4, Philip Meyer wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm not a Riv owner, but I have a Riv owner's bike right now and want to 
> reunite it with him or her. 
>
> It is an early 2000s, custom road bike, 61.5 seat tube length, light blue 
> with "Rivendell" on the downtube and a Riv head badge. 9 speed with a 
> mixture of Dura Ace 7700 and Ultegra with an XTR MD-950 rear derailleur. 
> Thud buster seatpost and avocet saddle. I contacted RBW about the bike - 
> they said that the serial number indicates it was built by Waterford, but 
> they didn't have records of who the owner was. There are rack braze ons on 
> the seatstay but no rack and no fork braze ons. 
>
> I came across this bike on the side of the road in central LA. The person 
> who had it was selling it for a price so low that I can't imagine it's 
> anything but stolen. After hemming and hawing, I decided to buy it in hopes 
> of returning it to its owner. 
>
> Photo attached - please message me if you have any idea who the owner 
> might be. Thanks!
>
> Philip Meyer
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks "customer service"

[Jock Dewey]

Jay:  Modern Bike in Des Moines, IA USA sells them.

Jock Dewey / Athens,, GA
On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 7:35:57 AM UTC-4, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> Unhelpful response to my request for a rivet to replace one that fell off 
> of my Cambium. They do sell it on their website but won't ship to me for 
> some reason.  
>
>
> *Brooks England* (BROOKS ENGLAND) 
>
> Sep 13, 12:04 BST 
> Hi Jay,
>
> The warranty on our saddles only extends to ten year if you registered it 
> on our Brooks England website within the first month of purchasing. If that 
> isn't the case, I am afraid that you will have to pay for any repairs after 
> the standard two years warranty.
>
> Kind regards,
> Brooks England
>

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Re: [RBW] Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions

[Jock Dewey]

Ditto Joe's comment about inserting some old cable scrap and then cutting 
housing. Push out old with the new you're inserting.

Always results in perfectly clean cut, boom!

PS: Those Shimano cutters are also really nice. Ours is way beyond old and 
still sharp as a tack!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA


On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 6:39:33 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I use Park’s cable cutter for cables, but I prefer using a Dremel and a 
> small cutting wheel for the housing. The Park cutter kind of munches up the 
> housings; a cutting wheel makes a nice, straight, flat cut.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Tim O. (Portland, OR) <timothyc...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> I've been using a cheapo tool to cut cables and housing forever, but it's 
> always a clunky process that results in frayed cables and/or frustration. I 
> hate cutting housing so much that I just left my housing way too long when 
> I recently changed my shifters.
>
> Just did a quick search to see what's out there and it looks like $20-40 
> bucks for something specific to bikes for cutting cable/housing. Does 
> anyone have experiences they'd like to share? Do I want a bike specific 
> cable cutter or can I get a generic hardware store version? Is it worth it 
> to spend the extra few $$ on this tool or do they all work the same? 
>
> If Riv sold one, I'd just buy that version.
>
> Thanks!
> Tim
> Portland, OR
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[RBW] Re: FS: Beautiful 58cm Green Rivendell Rambouillet

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Brian:

I'm INTERESTED in your green RAM if still available, rsvp as soon as you 
can. I'm in LA!!

Jock Dewey

On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 5:29:43 PM UTC-4, B Young wrote:
>
> Ha, no sooner than I posted this, I found a tiny nick and two tiny 
> scratches on the left rear stay. You can see the two tiny scratches in the 
> photo set; left rear stay. Now there's nothing to worry about. The bike is 
> officially broken in. :)
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[RBW] Re: In praise of Spur-cycles bells

[Jock Dewey]

Hey ~ Oh:

Oh oh, just realized this is not the BOB list, sorry for the typo.

BTW, in case you were wondering, the dome of the Spur Cycle bell is made in 
CT by the oldest (1832) and only remaining bell manufacturer in the USofA. 

Keep ringing!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 at 8:24:53 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, BellBOBs:
>
> Indeed, you are correct sir -- SPUR CYCLE bells are the Campy Nuovo Record 
> of dingers. The joy is if you have a few bikes then you're helping keep 
> these guys going and that's a good thing. 
>
> We bought our first one on the Kickstarter program several years ago and 
> once it came had to have them all around. It's a tiny jewel of engineering 
> and altho $$ for its size, the sound is BIG and BRIGHT and wakes you up. 
> Like the little wrens at our bird feeders, you simply can't believe such a 
> tiny object sings such a big beautiful song. 
>
> The only discord they strike is this: I ride a lot with my son, and altho 
> he has them on his bikes, too, he cringes when I acknowledge our fellow 
> riders in passing. Being the cheerful chap I am, I just can't help ringing 
> and waving. One pal (affectionately I think) calls me the 'ice cream man'. 
> Why have the thing if you don't use it, right?
>
> BEST REGARDS / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>  
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 9:08:24 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Crane bells are super cool and very classy.  It's great they are made in 
>> Japan, and I love them.  
>>
>> BUT
>>
>> Spur Cycle bells are by far the nicest bike bell I've ever seen.  I 
>> bought one from Ocean Air Cycles, because Rob Perks is the man, and I was 
>> blown away at how nice this bell in.  It's loud and pure and never makes a 
>> peep unless you want it to.  I just picked up a second one from a tiny 
>> Berkeley Bike Boutique, just because they had it on the shelf, and I like 
>> buying local.  Spur Cycle bells are MUSA and they kick butt.  $50 for a 
>> bell may seem perverse to frugal riders, but when you can get the very best 
>> anything for $50, that's something.  
>>
>> https://www.spurcycle.com/
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: In praise of Spur-cycles bells

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, BellBOBs:

Indeed, you are correct sir -- SPUR CYCLE bells are the Campy Nuovo Record 
of dingers. The joy is if you have a few bikes then you're helping keep 
these guys going and that's a good thing. 

We bought our first one on the Kickstarter program several years ago and 
once it came had to have them all around. It's a tiny jewel of engineering 
and altho $$ for its size, the sound is BIG and BRIGHT and wakes you up. 
Like the little wrens at our bird feeders, you simply can't believe such a 
tiny object sings such a big beautiful song. 

The only discord they strike is this: I ride a lot with my son, and altho 
he has them on his bikes, too, he cringes when I acknowledge our fellow 
riders in passing. Being the cheerful chap I am, I just can't help ringing 
and waving. One pal (affectionately I think) calls me the 'ice cream man'. 
Why have the thing if you don't use it, right?

BEST REGARDS / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
 



On Tuesday, June 27, 2017 at 9:08:24 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Crane bells are super cool and very classy.  It's great they are made in 
> Japan, and I love them.  
>
> BUT
>
> Spur Cycle bells are by far the nicest bike bell I've ever seen.  I bought 
> one from Ocean Air Cycles, because Rob Perks is the man, and I was blown 
> away at how nice this bell in.  It's loud and pure and never makes a peep 
> unless you want it to.  I just picked up a second one from a tiny Berkeley 
> Bike Boutique, just because they had it on the shelf, and I like buying 
> local.  Spur Cycle bells are MUSA and they kick butt.  $50 for a bell may 
> seem perverse to frugal riders, but when you can get the very best anything 
> for $50, that's something.  
>
> https://www.spurcycle.com/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

[Jock Dewey]

Good points, Garth. 

One of our heroes (some of us here anyway), Jobst Brandt, likely pedaled 
hundred and hundreds of miles on gravel wearing tubulars and Campy 
modulators rather than brakes...as did thousands of hardy TdF riders BITD. 
But trends do gain momentum, I suppose. 

It seems to me also quite likely the concept of 'gravel bike' was created 
by brilliant bike industry minds looking for ways to sell more stuff. I'd 
probably be concerned if I thought the availability of the disc brakes we 
have been using so capably and safely for 80 or 90 years (much of that on 
gravel for sure) was going away, but clearly it isn't...nor will it anytime 
soon, thankfully, IMHO.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA



On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
> It seems most people who are selling one have multiple Riv and/or other 
> bikes. I find 2 bikes to be about right, I can after all only ride one bike 
> no matter how many I could possibly own. 
>
>
> The disc brake mentions have me wondering aloud, what did people do before 
> disc brakes ?  Of course we all know the answer.  I do find it rather odd 
> how the whole "gravel bike" thing is associated with disc brakes. My oh 
> my. I have ridden gravel roads since the 80's and somehow I and others 
> all survived and thrived. People will say anything to sell a new product, 
> and that's what the parts mfrs. want you to believe disc brakes are a 
> requirement to riding a bike. Reminds me of mobile phones and now 
> smartphones, that somehow you cannot exist without constantly being 
> tethered to something to keep you occupied. Now I need disc brakes they 
> say, or else I am in danger from not controlling this that and the other 
> condition, obstacle or circumstance.  Frankly, I need nothing to be being, 
> since to be anything I must first and absolutely be being. 
>

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[RBW] Re: When is a bike old?

[Jock Dewey]

Addison, et. al.:

Yes, indeed, been thinking a lot about that lately myself. Other riders 
comment favorably all the time on my beautiful 'old' bike, even when it was 
'new' in 2004. Like you, I just smile and thank them for their kind 
generosity and sharp eye. And actually, some bits ARE what even I would 
call old -- but also some, quite a few actually, are new as almost 
yesterday.

Someone once wisely advised me that 'there's no need to educate the bus 
driver if you're getting off at the next stop.' But we all like to receive 
the 'thanks' due to a fine compliment.

So here's my pix for the day on that machine.

Cheers!

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 9:36:50 AM UTC-5, Addison wrote:
>
> I've had people assume my Riv is an "old" bike for a long time now but 
> yesterday when I was riding home I stopped to take a photo of the rushing 
> Truckee River in Reno and a gent paused to compliment me on my "beautiful 
> old bike."  I just said thanks and didn't correct him.  And then it 
> occurred to me that I shouldn't correct him because my Allrounder is going 
> on 18 years of age.  Many miles but it looks sharp...I've taken care of it 
> through commutes and offroading and tours.  Anyway, just ruminating...and 
> posting a couple pics.  Happy Monday!
>
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/02/when-is-bike-old.html
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
> <http://www.washoeschools.net/aact> 
>
> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>
> Educator: Professional Portfolio <http://renorambler.wix.com/portfolio>
>
> Blogger: Reno Rambler <http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe review on the BLUG

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Doug:

Thanks for the 'redirect'. 

What a heart-warming, beautifully written piece by Herb C. It just gives me 
the 'warm fuzzies' and it's so much fun and so satisfying to know that 
Grant's work is now receiving all the praise, even from the fringes these 
days, that it so well-deserves. Seems 'the kids' are all over it and now 
some of ol' die-hards are finally catching on, too.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 6:47:20 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> Most excellent review of the Joe on the BLUG.  A guy with long term bike 
> experience pops for a Joe after reading one review and doing minimal 
> research.  As may be expected, he loves the bike and the riding style it 
> encourages.  Worth a look and good to pass along to anyone wanting to know 
> "what's it all about".  
>
> dougP
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[RBW] FS: Riv SILVER DT Shifters * NEW *

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Y'all:

I've got a new / never mounted / beautiful set of SILVER downtube shifters 
I will not be using.

For sale @ $43 shipped. Contact off-list if interested.

Thanks!

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] FS: Gray TRESSOSTAR handlebar tape

[Jock Dewey]

Hey ~ Oh:

(Cross-posted to BOB)

I've got 9 rolls of new Gray Tressostar handlebarI don't need. Thick, rich, 
very nice stuff.

$30 bucks shipped and you get it all. Paypal.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

[Jock Dewey]

Wow! There are similar squabblings taking place right now vis-a-vis 
cranksets on the BOB list. 

I've collected a stash of NOS Suntour XC pro cantis over the years as they 
are, to my eye, just delightfully elegant and simple. Those gleaming 
pointy-hat fixing bolts just make me smile. 

But I digress; I have them installed on three very nice bicycles, with 
thick, chunky Scott-Mathauser pads & thin Eagle (orange) pads and they were 
all easily adjusted with no squealing. I ride fast (sometimes) and have 
just never noticed any fork flex or modulation issues. And I've never run a 
red light or careened off a mountain pass...yes we have mountains in 
GA--including two formidable up & downs: Hogpen Gap & Brasstown Bald. Man, 
if you don't bend a fork braking down either one of those beasts, you ain't 
gonna bend a fork, ha! 

I guess, with nearly all things bicycle, this wise rule applies: YMMV.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 12:18:12 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> I'll say, V brakes are the ones that don't seem to get any respect. 
>> Cantis still have some cool factor from the 'cross crowd, but V brake seem 
>> mostly relegated to cheap hybrids. But if you look at power, cost, weight, 
>> modulation, and set up ease, I think V's would at least get a podium finish 
>> in every category.
>>
>> IME, for snow and ice, disc brakes are the best. Otherwise, I would be 
>> happy with V brakes on everything else.
>>
>
> Agree. I had suntour xc pro canti brakes and hated them on the front!  No 
> matter what I did - change pads, adjust toe-in, etc. It would work for a 
> few rides then it was back to the squealing and shuddering. This was on a 
> steel frame bike with a steel fork too.  I was using Campy ergo shifters 
> and it was a pain. So I went into my LBS and they said try a mini-v brake. 
> I bought the cheapest Tektro 926al for about $20 and wow, what a 
> difference!  It was like night and day!  No more squealing or shuddering or 
> the lever almost hitting the handlebar. It just worked. It was like the 
> best $20 I ever spent!  I gave away that suntour canti brake, but still 
> keep the one in the rear as I didn't have a problem with it.
>
> So my new frame is going to have Paul minimoto mini-v brakes. I tried the 
> Pauls on another friend's bike and it worked great. Also, easy to adjust 
> too.
>
> Of course, YMMV!  Good Luck!
>
>>
>> Eric Daume
>> Plain City, OH
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Michael Hechmer <mhec...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Probably like a lot of us, I got an email announcing a Jan Hein blog 
>>> comparing rim & disk brakes.  Now, I have almost no experience with disk 
>>> brakes but much of what I read makes me think they could be a good choice 
>>> for some bikes.  I found myself saying, not my experience,  when he 
>>> compared posted CP and canti brakes. Jan has a phenomenal amount of 
>>> experience that's hard to challenge, but  My experience of modulation 
>>> with good, and I emphasize good, cantis has not been any less than with 
>>> good CP brakes.  The issue of shutter, which he raises with cantis, because 
>>> they mount lower on the fork than CP brakes, seems, to me, to be related to 
>>> the skill of the bike builder.
>>>
>>> Here's my experience with Cantis vs CP brakes.  My early Saluki, with 
>>> Paul's cantis offers excellent stopping power and modulation that is just 
>>> as good as the Pauls's CP brakes on my Rambouilet.  I originally had Pauls 
>>> posted CP on my tandem with 38 mm tires and converted the frame to cantis 
>>> in order to go to 45mm and switched to Paul's neo-retros.  There is no 
>>> difference in modulation, the cantis might offer a minute amount of extra 
>>> braking (when set up properly).  However a tandem might not be an exact 
>>> comparison to braking on a single.  The extra mass is huge, but the extra 
>>> weight in the rear (no offense honey) helps to keep the rear wheel planted 
>>> and adds to rear braking power.
>>>
>>> Michael
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[RBW] Need Help Pricing MB-1

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, y'alls:

My son is in the advocacy biz (BikeAthens) and they also have a shop that 
refurbishes bikes (BRP / Bicycle Recycling Program) for those in need and 
underprivileged kids. They accept donated bikes in every condition you can 
imagine and what they don't give away, they sell to fund their programs.

So they just got in a white MB-1 in original condition. It's a bit rough 
but no dents, only chip-rust and not much of that...and some parts, i.e. 
wheels, BB, etc. are in really good shape. All Suntour XC Pro, Sanshin 
hubs, nice Ritchey stem, fork, rims, seatpin, etc. He's got lousy pix, so 
I'll forego that for now.

They're trying to decide whether to part out or perhaps 'BAY it to get 
maximum $$ out of it.

What do you Bridgestone aficionados think this thing might be worth? 
Reasonable guesses, not pie-in-the-sky. It's 19.5 frame I do believe.

Hey, TIA for your help. It's a very good cause BTW.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: My Debate

[Jock Dewey]

Oh, yes, yes...you are right about the rain!! And if we don't get it now 
through the winter, we're screwed! Our local reservoir was down maybe 10' 
I'll bet. 

Good, we should def make some plans. There aren't a whole lot of us around, 
you know; weed out the carbons and it would be just about left to me, ha! 
Oh, I do have pal here who actually builds frames (just for himself, too 
bad) so that's one more. Wow, 2 of us!

I think all of my bikes are right about 24.5 lbs. Who knows how accurate my 
scale is but either add or unwind some tape and they'd all be the same. I 
simply can't tell the difference, certainly not riding, that's why I got 
brave and tried the scale. I was afraid of more, and I didn't want to know! 
We're a screwy bunch, that's for sure.

Good luck with the L'Avecaise. Great looking bike, surely a great ride, and 
from all accounts a good guy building them. Properly priced, too, IMHO. 

Merry Christmas, Bill, and keep in touch.

JD


On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 4:43:54 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA wrote:
>
> Thank you for sharing the photos, Jock. Great to see them all. You have 
> quite the stable. I didn't know you have a Ram, also. 
>
> Is the Soma a Stanyan? I know a few guys who've built up Smoothies. The 
> Stanyan is slightly lighter tubing? A bit surprised that the Ebisu is 
> heavier. 
>
> I will definitely plan a ride with you after the holidays. Athens has 
> better country riding for sure. I haven't been riding regularly due to some 
> knee issues. Getting rounds of synthetic cartilage injections the next few 
> weeks. The Dr. told me to take it easy, don't cause any swelling while 
> tissues are absorbing the knee goo. 
>
> Can't complain about the rainy weather since a few weeks ago half of the 
> places I hike were closed due to forest fires! 
>
> Cheers,
> Bill in Roswell, GA
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 10:49:07 AM UTC-5, Jock Dewey wrote:
>>
>> Hey, Bill:
>>
>> Definitely YES, do the L'Avecaise! Then c'mon over to Athens so I can 
>> have a go at it. 
>>
>> My quandry is, I haven't had skinny tubes since those days my Eisentraut 
>> (now hanging up) was on the road. What if L'Avecaise was so magical my 
>> Ebisu or Ram no longer came out of the house? Oh, that would be sad because 
>> I'm so fond of both (and after 13 years just had JB respray Ram).
>>
>> Of course, much of this mystifies me. I built Soma--nice stainless 
>> headlugs--a couple years ago with a bunch of nice bits I'd been collecting. 
>> (I got pro-deal on frame so it was really inexpensive.) Despite frame specs 
>> at which many would scoff, I grab this bike all the time as I love the way 
>> it 'feels'. I guess I still don't know what that quite means totally, even 
>> after more than 60 years aboard. To wit, I ride Ebisu all day, then hop on 
>> the yellow bike and despite its on-paper shortcomings, it's full of life. 
>> Sprightly, comfortable and fast, too. When I'm challenged by my kid to keep 
>> his wheel, I often grab Soma.
>>
>> Last spring I had some time on a rainy day, my wife was in CA with 
>> family, so I took off bags, pumps, water bottles--but left on fenders, 
>> pedals, etc--and crudely weighed them all on a hanging scale. I must admit, 
>> I wasn't sure I really wanted to know. Surprise, surprise, pleasant 
>> surprise...they all weighed about 24 1/2 lbs. As comparison (and to make 
>> sure scale was sort-of working), Waterford AC1900 came in at 28 lbs. and 
>> kid's Columbus Bianchi racing bike with featherweight Chronometro Aerohead 
>> wheels weighed in at just ever so slightly over 23 lbs. Wow.
>>
>> (Oh, another data point, all my bikes share same wheel spec, i.e. Open 
>> Pro / 32 / XTR hubs / 15g spokes / light, responsive 30mm tires. All other 
>> very-nice components quite similar).
>>
>> So now I wonder/ponder, thinking back to other bikes and experiences, 
>> tandems included, I recall being stunned when I first rode my now-long-gone 
>> Litespeed. THAT was breathtaking...so so so light. Oh my gosh. I was 
>> instantly 20 years younger.
>>
>> Therefore, what is the mystical IT? Is there a mystical IT? I'm thinking 
>> weight, other spex relatively equal, really does have something quite 
>> crucial to say about *it. *
>>
>> I guess what I'm realizing is (and answering my own question), at this 
>> point, I should probably just quit while I'm ahead. Enticing as today's 
>> choices are and they ARE enticing, perhaps more so than they've ever been, 
>> maybe I should continue to ride and care for the joys I gots rather than 
>> entertain dreams of the ones I ain't gots. 
>>
>> But, Bill, if you DO pull 

[RBW] Re: My Debate

[Jock Dewey]

Yes, Brewster, thanks.

Although it's "Limited" and not the "A", so some would say not-so-great. It 
was a fantastic ride for many years and many thousands of miles--so 
well-crafted. Gorgeous. It's right above my bench. The thing's in wonderful 
shape and will put it back together one of these days. A little small, but 
everyone in '75 or so crammed themselves on frames too small, saved weight, 
made 'em stiffer, ha! I recall reading Jan talk about leaving his rubber 
Mafac brake hoods off to 'save weight'! We just can't get away from it.

BEST / Jock

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>  Jock wrote:
>
>  (now hanging up) was on the road.>
>
> Wait, you have an Eisentraut and it's hanging on the wall?!  Why? If it is 
> not damaged, why not fix that up and get it going?!  Although now retired, 
> Albert Eisentraut's frames are second to none!  
>
> Good Luck!  
>

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[RBW] Re: Trail calculator

[Jock Dewey]

Yes Les! Thanks for posting!

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA


On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 6:09:30 PM UTC-5, Les Lammers wrote:
>
> This will allow comparison of different frames and give a pretty good idea 
> of how the steering will be. Out of curiosity, I compared a 55 Sam to a 55 
> Chevoit using the Riv geometry chart. So close that the difference is 
> negligible.
>
> http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php
>

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 6:09:30 PM UTC-5, Les Lammers wrote:
>
> This will allow comparison of different frames and give a pretty good idea 
> of how the steering will be. Out of curiosity, I compared a 55 Sam to a 55 
> Chevoit using the Riv geometry chart. So close that the difference is 
> negligible.
>
> http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php
>

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 6:09:30 PM UTC-5, Les Lammers wrote:
>
> This will allow comparison of different frames and give a pretty good idea 
> of how the steering will be. Out of curiosity, I compared a 55 Sam to a 55 
> Chevoit using the Riv geometry chart. So close that the difference is 
> negligible.
>
> http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php
>

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[RBW] Re: 2016 PTSD Ride: The Video

[Jock Dewey]

Perfect! 

Yellow & Carradice...The Ghost of Jobst!

JD / Athens, GA

On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 7:25:47 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My latest video highlights my annual Post Turkey and Stuffing Day ride 
> from Davis to SF:
>
> https://youtu.be/mgZIty9L4w0 
>
> Enjoy!
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Ritchey LOGIC non-drive 170mm crank arm (silver)

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, All:

I'm looking for a left side LOGIC crank arm, 170mm silver in good shape. 
The generation with the sort of 'soft arrow' shape at the top and LOGIC on 
the flatish arm.

I'd be interested if you have one. Thanks so much for looking.

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

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[RBW] Re: A plug to buy something from Rivendell Bicycle Works: A Nitto F-15 rack

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Bill, et. al.:

Count me in, too. 

I've had Boxy & F15 on my bikes for 16 years (and an NOS set stashed 
carefully away waiting for another sometime or other). Best combo ever. I'm 
always partial to having the bag level with the top of the bars...that 
thing down over the front wheel doesn't work for me...aesthetically, ha! 
Fashion has its consequences, so they say.

Workhorse stuff that's so so well made. Long Live Riv.

Jock Dewey
Athens, GA

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 4:01:58 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Nitto makes a front rack called the F-15.  It clamps to the 26.0mm part of 
> your drop bars and it's a u shaped support around the perimeter of a 
> handlebar bag.  Rivendell stocks that rack and has 13 of them in stock as 
> of 9/22/16.  Various bag makers offer a bag to fit that rack.  There is a 
> Sackville model that Riv also has in stock, but they only have two of the 
> bags.  
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r8.htm?CartID=6
>
> My plug is for the rack itself.  It's astonishingly nice.  It looks like 
> it should be super floppy but it's surprisingly solid for a typical 
> handlebar bag application.  If you own, or ever think you might own a 
> typical 'road bike', that doesn't have much in the way of attachment points 
> for a normal front rack, the old F-15 is a fantastic option.  I'm running 
> mine on a Black Mountain Cycles road bike.  Not only is it way lighter and 
> way less expensive than a traditional rack + decaleur setup, but it puts 
> the handlebar bag in exactly the same place relative to the handlebars no 
> matter which bike I put it on.  
>
> In my opinion, anybody in the habit of setting up various bikes with 
> various bags should have an F-15 laying around, hence the plug.  Riv has 13 
> of the racks but only 2 of the bags to fit it.  Riv is selling the rack for 
> $78.  The other two online US vendors that have the F-15 rack in stock are 
> asking $95 and $120 for it.  Now's a good time to buy an F-15 rack, (it's 
> like picking up free money at $78) and treat yourself to a bag to fit it 
> when one comes up for sale, or have Ruthworks make you a custom to match 
> your bike.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Which bikes should Rivendell keep selling?

[Jock Dewey]

Y'all: As another just mentioned and good point, too: if it's not a 
'stocking' bike, why not leave that part of the menu as is? 

Roadeo, Atlantis, customs, Hillborne (altho this one is stocking, right?), 
etc. can all stay, yes? It's always a bit sad when a favorite disappears, 
so keep as many as possible. Me? After 12 years, I'm having my RAM 
repainted (paint nearly perfect, but some corrosion on the lug shoulders, 
etc.), it is such a very nice frame. As said, sad to see it go (altho 
Roadeo is most suitable replacement).

Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>
> In Grants email that went out yesterday he said that they're going to be 
> discontinuing some models because there's not room to stock them all. 
> Soo.this should be a fun exercise (and for many of us a little gut 
> wrenching). Let's decide which bikes to keep and which to wave a fond 
> farewell to, remembering, of course, that I'm sure you could always get any 
> of the models as a custom. Grant didn't say how many they'd be keeping so 
> on your response you can either: 1. Say how many different types of bikes 
> to stock, and which ones, or 2. Rank them in order, with #1 being the bike 
> they absolutely must stock. Here's my list:
>
> Atlantis
> A. Homer Hilsen
> Roadeo
> Joe Appaloosa
> Clem Smith Jr.
> Clementine/Clem Smith Jr. L-Type
>
> My (probably flawed) reasoning:
> Atlantis must always be there. It's the quintessential Riv. Hilsen is an 
> awesome "country bike". Roadeo fills the "go fast" category. Clem is the 
> one for rough stuff and Clementine takes care of the mixte/step-through, at 
> a very good price. And the Joe Appaloosa is, for lack of a better 
> description, the "poor man's Atlantis. 
>
> Full disclosure: I currently have a Hilsen, Roadeo, Hunqapillar, and my 
> girlfriend has a Sam, with a tandem in the oven.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Newbaum's

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, T-O-STAR Bobs:

We started hoarding Tressostar years ago fearing it was going away. Now 
we've got a pyramid of the beautiful stuff all piled up nicely on the 
bench. We sleep like a baby knowing it's there, ha. Quite a few different 
colors but mostly black. Lots of black as it ages better, IOHO. 

We must confess to stretching...really s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g...a thin 
couple-o-inches run of cheap 'cork' (what IS that?) across the tops to 
provide just a bit of kush behind the hoods mostly. You'd never know it was 
there but we've grown to like just that little bit of thickness.

BTW, to engage in some unabashed name dropping, my old riding pal, Lon 
Haldeman (we from NorIL), the undisputed champion of long distance cycling, 
always layered cloth tape. His palmares includes countless, legendary, 
epic, jaw-dropping rides, one after another, for decades. And when were all 
younger, the only wrappings were essentially Benotto plastic and 
Tressostar. Our T-starred arms and hands have aged just wonderfully and 
thankfully and gracefully we keep on keepin' on!

Sheathed in cloth always, from steamy Athens, GA.

Jock Dewey



On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 8:36:39 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> In my opinion, everybody should have a small box of Newbaums containing 
> one or two rolls of each of the colors you think you might like.  Then, 
> next time you need to wrap a bar, you shop from your internal inventory. 
>  If you are careful and keep the backing paper on the excess every time, 
> you can put the excess scraps in the same box and do a Grant Petersen style 
> patchwork wrap every once in a while.  
>
> I never would have done this Tri-Color Harlequin abomination if I didn't 
> have a box of Newbaums with green, light green and orange in there (among 
> several other colors)
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/28214856710 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, ca
>
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 5:21:01 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Anybody need some bar tape? I have 3 rolls of dark blue new from Riv I 
>> was going to use on my Appaloosa, then decided to stick with green. $15 
>> shipped, which is a bit of a discount for discount lovers everywhere. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>> text 415-786-4623
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Waterford AC 1900 Frameset

[Jock Dewey]

Good WED afternoon:

I have a sensational 56 cm Waterford AC1900 frameset (Reynolds 753) that I 
am reluctantly selling. Gorgeous deep British Green w/out any of the usual 
marks or scuffs (touch-up paint included but not presently required). It is 
in like-new condition, not a single blemish, not one. Not even dropouts as 
they are perfectly stainless. All appropriate touring brazeons, With silver 
Chris King headset, wonderful XC Pro cantilever brakes, 27.2 seatpin all 
included. $1000. Pix can be found here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/125203190@N03/

I'm in beautiful ATHENS, GA and will ship at cost to US destinations.

Thanks for looking. And write if you have questions or want to chat about 
it.

Jock Dewey / Athens, Georgia

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