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2016-02-16 Thread David Johnston
Note: Take care that if you want to use the Shimano Bar ends on the Sunrace body then you will want to use the special spacer that comes with the Shimano Bar ends that fits over the square thing on the bar end pod and has a tab on the shifter side for the shifter. The spacer that comes with the

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2016-02-15 Thread Tim Wood
Thanks for confirming the shimanos fit on the sunrace bodies, Dave. I received my ultegra bar ends but haven't installed them yet. I'm planning on trying bar end first but am just waiting on some grip materials to arrive. If the bar ends don't work out It looks like i could also mount the

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2016-02-15 Thread El Sapo
I'm curious what shifter setup Riv shows on their bosco bar pictures. Looks like shimano. What is the mount and the shifter? I'm going to change out the brake levers to get the bolts out from under the palms of my hands. I want that whole area of the bars grip able. What lever do you guys like?

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2016-02-15 Thread Dave Johnston
PS if you want really nice micro ratchet friction shifting try the microshift 9spd swapped backwards Riv style with the left on the right and the right on the left. The left has a nice micro ratchet. The right can be used with 9 clicks for the front derail or change the mode to pure friction.

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2016-02-15 Thread Dave Johnston
I confirmed today for my own curiosity that Shimano bar end shifters will fit on a Sunrace 9spd index thumby mount. I'm not sure it makes sense to do so however as Shimano bar ends are expensive and you could just buy a 8 or 9 spd index only Sun Race thumby. Or you for about the same price as

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2016-02-14 Thread Tim Wood
Thanks Keith, she's doing okay but I can tell it's starting to wear on her. 2.5 weeks to go and the cast is off! Sorry to rub that weather in, I use to hate when west coast people did that to me when I lived in the colder climates! I hope you guys dig out soon and you are rocking that Clem

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2016-02-14 Thread El Sapo
I keep shopping shifter setups and buying different tires. I was going to try 1.5 after having 2.35's on the bike. Like posted above, Riv told me the Clem works best with a fat tire. I actually like the Kenda Kwick 1.75. Was told that the Compass tires will be a lot lighter. So I ordered up a

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2016-02-13 Thread iamkeith
Very nice! You're making me stir crazy, though. Hope your daughter is doing well, by the way. Hey, here's a question I've been wondering: Are the pulleys on the Altus derailleur floating (have some side-to-side slop)? The floating pulleys of the typical, older shimano derailleurs is the

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2016-02-08 Thread masmojo
I have Big Bens on my Clementine, I've used Grand Bois Hetres and Panaracers Col de Vie, but the Clems are made for big tires so sticking something under 40mm would look lonely unless you also have fenders. These are big, heavy bikes so I really like the added volume when bumping over curbs,

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2016-02-08 Thread ian m
I think it's the combination of the sun race shifters and the Altus derailler. I was using the same shifters with an XTR derailler and had 0 problems with mis shifts. As soon as I hooked up the Altus I've experienced the same shifting problems as everyone else, especially under load. It's a

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2016-02-08 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
That is as good a thesis as I have heard so far. I switched out the sun race for the aforementioned power shifters, and no more ghost shifting, though I think the Altus, despite the cool pizza pie pulleys, is a little rough around the edges. I have an extremely long-winded Clem report, along

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2016-02-08 Thread El Sapo
I did a couple of 16 mile rides over the weekend and only had 1 bad shifting experience. I took care when shifting and limited the amount of shifting I did. It's a flat ride on a paved path. So maybe I'm getting the hang of it. I mostly go from one gear to another and back. Shifted most of the

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2016-02-08 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
That's another theory--patience. I'm glad the issue seems to be resolving for you. I thought I read on a blug post that the clicks could be ignored, and in fact I did not pay much attention to them. Then I read on the catalog description page on Riv that the first 3 gears are one click and the

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2016-02-03 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
> > On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:09:08 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Those stem shifters that you are holding up against the stem? You are > holding them up backwards. Turn them around the right way and you'll see > they won't interfere. > Unfortunately, though I would like it to

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-03 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)
"Haptic" -- great word that I didn't know. > On Feb 2, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > >> On 02/02/2016 09:14 PM, Tim Wood wrote: >> Now this may offend some, and call me new school, but I don't really >> understand the benefit of friction shifting in the rear.

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2016-02-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
"Unfortunately, though I would like it to be the case, it is not. And without moving the stems, or seeing a photo where they are not parallel, it would be easy to assume that they go the other way, but the shifters are oriented correctly in the photos I posted above. (See photos below.

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2016-02-03 Thread El Sapo
Bill, thank you for the breakdown. My points of comparison are very limited, mainly 5-6 speed shifters on 80's mountain bikes. So I really appreciate the time you took to explain the Clem setup. I'm not going to change to a barcon. I like the set up how it is. l will look at the other options

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2016-02-03 Thread Joe Bernard
The Suntour Way, think of every possible combination for a bike part, then present them to the chairman: "Make all of them." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

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2016-02-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
"My apologies. I was unaware that Suntour made different models in different orientations." Sure enough. I did a little more research and Suntour did in fact manufacture them both ways, and the housing stops are inextricably part of the clamp, so they are not reversible. Bummer -- You

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2016-02-03 Thread Zed Martinez
> > I'm still searching for the perfect 650b Clem tires. Saw someone call > themselves the Emelda Marcos of bike tires and I could easily go that > direction. I'm back to thinking something in the 38-40 range but nicer than > the stock Kendra's. Compass, Kojack, Pari Moto? Anything you

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2016-02-03 Thread El Sapo
I'm still searching for the perfect 650b Clem tires. Saw someone call themselves the Emelda Marcos of bike tires and I could easily go that direction. I'm back to thinking something in the 38-40 range but nicer than the stock Kendra's. Compass, Kojack, Pari Moto? Anything you reccomend for

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2016-02-03 Thread Zed Martinez
Definitely add the Soma New Xpress to your list to look at, then. Made by Panaracer with their Palsea tread, gumwalls. They're pretty darn light for tough tires, and the kevlar alternative casing rode better than any Schwalbe I have tried and was definitely not prone to picking up flats.

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2016-02-03 Thread El Sapo
I don't encounter much road debris. Some thorns, I did get a flat on a Big Apple on one bike. I have the marathon supremes on 2 other bikes and they have never flatted. The Big Apples roll better. Cushier. Since my 52 Clem has 18mm wide rim I didn't want to go too wide of a tire. I weigh 190,

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2016-02-02 Thread Jim D Massachusetts
Kai I want to see a picture of that monster Clem. Jim (clem lover) D.In Massachusetts On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 5:16:56 PM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote: > > I'm with Bill. I find the clicks slightly annoying, but all in all it's > been a great

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2016-02-02 Thread El Sapo
Hey Bill, just for my own clarification, these Clem shifters have "click" indexed stops. My understating of friction shifters is that they are without the indexing click stops. So what happens is that the shifter wants to find the click, the index point and rest there. But that's not the

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2016-02-02 Thread Kainalu
Me too! All's I know is it likely won't have a second top tube, and it'll be painted a green of some sort. Hopefully I don't know until I open the box in May/June/July/ish. Surprise is usually often occasionally happy, right? -Kai Brooklyn NY -- You received this message because you are

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2016-02-02 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
El Sapo wrote: *"I can't figure out why Riv went this way? Can you?"* I suspect because A. they are ergonomically pretty sweet the way Riv has 'em set up--they have that little dog leg that makes it work without really having to move your hand from the grip one bit, just wiggle that thumb.B.

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2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
El Sapo I have one Sun Race shifter here on my desk. I have them installed on two bikes and I have an extra pair from my parts box. Since I anticipated there might be some of the dissatisfied who would assert "these are not friction shifters", I decided to bring one to work with me. In

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2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Eric Yes, Clem shifters are different from those. They actively click in the pull-the-cable direction, and I wouldn't call it soft. Each click is quite a bit smaller than an indexed shifter and a lot larger (coarser) than a power ratchet shifter. The materials and durability of the Clem

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2016-02-02 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I bought two sets of the "cheap" shifters from Riv and they convinced me to go back to indexed shifting. The rear would ghost shift on a regular basis. Very annoying and not something I'll put up with. If indexing means I have to pay to get it readjusted (I am completely incapable of doing

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2016-02-02 Thread Eric Daume
Are the Clem shifters different than these? http://www.amazon.com/Sunrace-SLM10-Friction-Shifter-Set/dp/B007QMJH86/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1454457129=8-1=sunrace+shifter I have a pair of these, and they have a power ratchet type action. Very nice to use with friction shifting. But it sounds like the

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2016-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard
I believe these one-at-a-time shifters arrived when GP was leaning towards complete builds without a fd, thus the need for one shifter without breaking up Silver or Shimano sets. Once that train got rollin' down the track... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2016-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Ooh, those stem shifters are purty. I have an old Simplex set I bought just 'cause I liked them. 2 years later they still haven't made it to a bike. Oops! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

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2016-02-02 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Just to clarify one user's perspective--I have lots of experience with non-STI shifters: ratcheting shifters, smooth shifters, thumb shifters, Positron shifters, indexed, non-indexed. I toured Tuscany with bar ends hooked up to a ten-speed cassette no problem. When I had a motor vehicle, it

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2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Yes on all points. Campy of the mid 80s taught a lot of us to overshift + release. And yes, it's a course ratchet. On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 at 7:36:22 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 02/02/2016 06:06 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > So, when I pull the cable I do as many clicks

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2016-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Mark Without question, if you position your derailer perfectly with your shifters and then just ride down the road and your derailer after a while moves itself because your shifter allows it to move with insufficient friction, that's unacceptable. The other posters on this thread who don't

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2016-02-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/02/2016 06:06 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: So, when I pull the cable I do as many clicks it takes to make it shift, and if it overshifted some I trim it back. Many people like me grew up shifting bicycles back when *every shift (every single shift) in the pull the cable direction required

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2016-02-02 Thread David Banzer
Like Bill, I'll certainly buy a couple pairs if folks aren't digging them. I have one on my Clem that is shifting an Ultegra long-cage rear derailleur and an 8-speed custom cassette (which probably should have more problems shifting than a standard cassette). I've not experienced any issues at

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2016-02-02 Thread Tim Wood
Bill, I think you're bang on with your analysis and description, thanks for breaking it down and examining/explaining the shifter. I'm not upset at Riv for sourcing this part, its just less then ideal and the nuances of the shifter in this application make it difficult to live with. This is

Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-02-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/02/2016 09:14 PM, Tim Wood wrote: Now this may offend some, and call me new school, but I don't really understand the benefit of friction shifting in the rear. What is the point of being able to trim the rear derailer? it's either in line or not in line and when it's not in line it runs

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2016-02-02 Thread Zed Martinez
I like friction rear shifting because on modern hyperglide style cassettes it's a lot easier to just skim across gears to the one I want out of the stack, instead of having to click 3 or 4 times after every stop over the course of just a few seconds. On my albastaches, I also like how it

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2016-02-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
I don't suppose there's any chance you have a stiff, binding chain link, is there? 3-4 crank revs is about what it takes to get a link back to the exact same place. On 02/02/2016 06:06 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: I rode the bike to work and back today (been taking the

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2016-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
There was talk at some point of making the Mystery Bike without a fd, and using that stick to shift the chainrings. I suspect the youngsters at Riv may have talked the boss out of that one ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

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2016-02-01 Thread El Sapo
Riv has not been too concerned with shifting. Maybe around the time of the Simple One release, it seems like I saw a picture of a stick in someone's hand described as a shifter and another story about a guy sitting on the ground with his rear wheel off the bike and the passing bikers saying

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2016-02-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Frequent comments in early Riv Readers were on the vanity of excessive shifting, and that, with click shifting built into your brake levers, you were likely to shift far too often. On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:43 PM, El Sapo wrote: > Riv has not been too concerned with

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2016-02-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Oops. Here's the link (same as the Crankin' through the snow post): https://medium.com/@DeaconPatrick/crankin-through-the-snow-7b5d604fd629#.uiz6jgjhw On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 2:44:12 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > That was the inspiration behind my current setup on the Hunqapillar.

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2016-02-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
That was the inspiration behind my current setup on the Hunqapillar. Last picture in this post shows no FD, though the snow blocks seeing the Wolf narrow-wide middle chain ring, which retains the chain wonderfully well. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 2:31:51 PM UTC-7, Joe

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2016-02-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
That was the shifting scheme for the original Quickbeam, too. On 02/01/2016 04:31 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: There was talk at some point of making the Mystery Bike without a fd, and using that stick to shift the chainrings. I suspect the youngsters at Riv may have talked the boss out of that one

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2016-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'll buy SunRace shifters off your Clem. I love them. I'll pay half-retail. $32 for a pair. Even though I have yet another pair coming on my complete Appaloosa. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 3:44:06 PM UTC-8, Tim Wood wrote: > > Well, I bit the bullet and

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2016-02-01 Thread Kainalu
I'm with Bill. I find the clicks slightly annoying, but all in all it's been a great shifter. I'd buy them all up, like Bill, but like Bill I've got another set coming on my soon to be new monster Clem. 103 mattresses up -Kai Brooklyn NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed

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2016-02-01 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)
Well, my Mystery Bike has two rings but no front dérailleur. I stay in the big ring almost all the time, but if I need a really low gear, it isn't hard to drop the chain into the smaller ring. > On Feb 1, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > There was talk at some

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2016-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
Understood, Pudge..I meant for future production bikes. My recollection is that GP was kinda fired up for the idea, but prototypes kept ending up with a fd when he wasn't looking. Those rascally kids! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

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2016-02-01 Thread Tim Wood
I'd be willing to sell the shifters Bill if you are serious. But I want to make sure I like the bar ends first and there is no chance that I would want to dismantle the sunrace shifters and turn them in to thumbie bodies - if that is even possible. Deacon Patrick, that's funny I was looking

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2016-02-01 Thread Bill Lindsay
I don't necessarily want to hoard them. It's just that they are nice shifters and if people want to throw them in the garbage, I'll save them from the trash bin. If I can pick up really nice shifters for really cheap, I will stock up. They work great for me, and there is no setup secret.

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2016-01-31 Thread Tim Wood
Sweet mixte! You have quite the harem of cool city/utility/fun bikes Mark! Ya, I know what you mean with the front shifter, either I'm bumping it or maybe it is rattling out of position as I'm always giving it a couple clicks to stop chain rub. I was thinking it was a cable tension issue but

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2016-01-31 Thread Tim Wood
Well, I bit the bullet and bought some ultegra 8 speed bar end shifters. Gonna run the rear indexed I think. And heads up, I got them for a great price from chain reaction cycles, $70 Canadian, which is like what, $10 US? Haha just kidding, but a good deal. Threw some $30 all silver deore

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2016-01-31 Thread Joe Bernard
I've run Ultegra bar-ends on Albas for many miles. You'll notice the bars suddenly being longer on mounts/dismounts and sharp turns, but it becomes a thing you unconsciously adjust for after a few rides. I've tried lots of different types of shifters, but always gravitate back to bar-ends

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2016-01-31 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Oops, Should have been more specific, Tim. I was referring to the Burley Piccolo currently on my Le Tour, not my Burley trailer. For the Clementine, the issue here, due to the long

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2016-01-30 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't think these shifters from Riv are long for this world. I had assumed they operated similarly to Silvers with the clickety-ratchet, but y'all are getting specific indexed clicks. That's like trying to shift a Suntour derailer with Shimano index..not gonna work. -- You received this

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2016-01-30 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/30/2016 01:41 PM, Wayne Naha wrote: I'm having the same problem with shifting on my Clem. I've only used friction shifting on my 5 speed freewheel equipped bike. That was no problem to shift. Then I had an indexed shifter on a 7 speed bike, and that was great, too. I could go back

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2016-01-30 Thread Wayne Naha
I'm having the same problem with shifting on my Clem. I've only used friction shifting on my 5 speed freewheel equipped bike. That was no problem to shift. Then I had an indexed shifter on a 7 speed bike, and that was great, too. I could go back and forth between the two effortlessly. But

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2016-01-30 Thread Tim Wood
I thought that too Joe when I first saw them but shifting them is comfortable enough. I push and pull with me thumb and sometimes on the rear shifter I use my index finger from under the bar to push it up. The real issue is this shifting, it's starting to drive me nuts. Last night I went on a

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2016-01-30 Thread Joe Bernard
Roll with the date night, brother. Ride tomorrow ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

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2016-01-30 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck
Another thing to consider with the Sunrace thumb shifter is that it may not work well with your particular brake lever if you want to use the Riv-preferred orientation. When I installed mine alongside a Shimano Deore T610 lever (which has its clamping screw to the *inside* of the bar), I

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2016-01-30 Thread Joe Bernard
Get after it, son! I'm at work all weekend (care home, I stay for the duration), so no riding for me. Have fun in the rain! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

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2016-01-30 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm a bit mystified by the thumbshifters being mounted inboard like that. It seems to me it would take some gymnastics to get your thumb/fingers over there. My Bike Friday has Silvers on Paul Thumbies mounted on the outside of V-O Porteur bars where it's simple to hit it with my thumb, fingers,

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2016-01-30 Thread Tim Wood
Ya I will!! But now my wife is talking about a date night. Doesn't she know there is another woman in my life? Her name is Clem, she was conceived in California, born in Taiwan and has bolt ons from Japan. She's a little stout but I like 'em that way! Care home eh Joe? That's a tough job, my

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2016-01-30 Thread Joe Bernard
It may just be luck of the draw combined with nailing the cable tension. One time I had a 9-speed Shimano bar-con accurately shifting a Shimano derailer and 8-speed cassette with one extra click. IIRC it was a matter of using what I had, and assuming I would go friction but tried the clicks

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2016-01-30 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have to report the same shifting issues that are being mentioned regarding the Clems as built by Riv. In terms of what I am used to regarding gears, I have ridden it all with the exception of 11-speed. I mostly ride 6, 7, 8 speed friction these days. I haven't yet had much time to try to

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2016-01-30 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/30/2016 06:44 PM, Tim Wood wrote: I thought that too Joe when I first saw them but shifting them is comfortable enough. I push and pull with me thumb and sometimes on the rear shifter I use my index finger from under the bar to push it up. The real issue is this shifting, it's

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2016-01-30 Thread Tim Wood
Sorry Steve, I re-read that and it does need clarification: When I shifted to the small chainring up front, the rear derailer started skipping, clunking and became misaligned. Good point about the chain length not being a factor and the tandem example. -- You received this message because

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2016-01-30 Thread Tim Wood
Love the big dummy! Hey Mark, have you tried hooking up the burley trailer yet? Because of the shape of the Clem rear dropouts I wasn't able to install my chariot trailer receiver. I guess we'll be needing this part to make it happen https://burley.com/product/hitch-adapter/. However I read a

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2016-01-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/29/2016 04:30 PM, Tim Wood wrote: I made an interesting observation on last nights ride regarding front end wobble. Prior to the ride I was looking at a couple photos of my Clem and thought the saddle was tilted a little high, and on my last ride at times I felt a little pressure. So

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2016-01-29 Thread Tim Wood
I think you're on to something Steve. Although, the first time I noticed the wobble it I was on the aforementioned descent and I merely sat up to take off my gloves and was coasting, not pedalling, when the shimmy initiated. But your explanation seems more plausible than mine which is the

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2016-01-29 Thread Tim Wood
I made an interesting observation on last nights ride regarding front end wobble. Prior to the ride I was looking at a couple photos of my Clem and thought the saddle was tilted a little high, and on my last ride at times I felt a little pressure. So I tilted it more level and no more wobble.

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2016-01-29 Thread Tim Wood
Glad I'm not the only one El Sapo. And I think I've read others gripping about them on this group. With the complete Joe's and Sam's also coming equipped I'm sure there will be more people complaining and switching out shifters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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2016-01-28 Thread Wayne Naha
Tim, so sorry to hear about your girl! A broken hip and a body cast? My deep condolences. I have two little girls not much older, and that really hits me. It is important to take a break from caregiving, so I am relieved that you have some help and the opportunity for a great afternoon ride

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2016-01-28 Thread Tim Wood
Thanks for the kinds words Wayne. Isn't riding bikes the best form of therapy? It always helps me through the tough times. My girl is such a trooper, and to top it off while at the hospital they did blood work and she was diagnosed with celiac disease. Jeez. So the whole family is going

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2016-01-28 Thread El Sapo
I don't understand why the shifting was set up like it was. It's not a good thing. I've used friction exclusively and it's fine. What doesn't work is the clicks. I get surprise shifting and slipping gears. the click is a fixed point and it's usually the wrong setting. -- You received this

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2016-01-28 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck
Well done, Tim -- that's a very attractive and practical build! I'm still sourcing parts to finishing building up my (grey 52-cm) Clem frame. Although I have Albatross bars on another bike and really like them, I bought Bullmoose Bosco bars for the Clem, just to give them a try. I'm hoping it

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2016-01-28 Thread RDS
Nice pics. Appreciate the write up as I have a yet to be ridden 52 Clem. Do you have any opinion or feedback on the shifters (they click, but are not indexed)? Which fenders and tire width? On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 9:41:34 PM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote: > > Thanks Shoji and Ben. > > I

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2016-01-28 Thread Tim Wood
Hey RDS. I'm really not loving the shifters. I'll preface that with the fact that I come from a road background and have only ever ridden indexed rear shifting. I had my front der, down tube shifter on my LHT set up in friction for custom trimming, but never the rear. So on the Clem maybe I'm

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2016-01-28 Thread Joe Bernard
You can use bar-ends with Clem grips, just cut a hole in the ends like Riv does for cork. You should even be able to dig out a groove on the bottoms for the cable. Or just run it beneath the grips like I show on my just-posted Clem pics. I'm going to twine them up to the bar near the brake

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2016-01-28 Thread Tim Wood
Thanks Bob! One thing I'll say about the Bosco is that they have a lot more useable grip options and It was nice to rotate through them on longer rides. On the albas I'm mainly on the grips, maybe a bit in front of them and I found a nice tt position with my forearms resting on the bars.

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2016-01-27 Thread Tim Wood
Thanks Zed, maybe I'll play around with the tire pressure. Like I said it only happens no handed and at very specific speeds, I'd estimate around 30-40km/hr, so it's a pretty rare scenario and it's easy to correct. Nice decal design btw! -- You received this message because you are

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2016-01-27 Thread Zed Martinez
Thanks, Tim. And hey, for better or worse I consider 'no hands' to be the fifth really good hand position on my albastches, a habit I picked up from my Simcoe roadster which is so stable and so limited in hand grips that it became habit for me to ride long stretches of the trail out here just

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2016-01-27 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Nice write up and great bike. Hope your 4-yo gets better soon. shoji On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 12:47:10 AM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote: > > Hey folks! I wanted to share a brief ride report/update/review on my Clem > Smith Jr. as I've put a few miles on it now and made some changes that have

[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

2016-01-27 Thread Zed Martinez
Glad to see you finally got the rack sorted, Tim! Sorry to hear about your girl and hope things are getting better. Sounds like it was a fun ride, though. Wish I could help you more on the wobble thing... my 52cm with rack only does the usual wobble at low speeds, and it cleans up as it goes. I