Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention and other Amateur Flea Markets/Events

2006-03-26 Thread mch
skipp025 wrote: Re: Dayton Hamvention and other Amateur Flea Markets/Events As I've told a number of people - it looks like they are trying to run it into the ground. Why would you say that? As someone semi in the know about the Previous 5 to 10 Dayton Flea Markets I've mentioned

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Dayton Fleamarket space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread mch
Look at it this way: If the number of dealers drops, those with money left over will be looking more at your lot. :-) When I first went to Dayton 25 years ago or so, you had to 'fight' your way in to see anything on the flea market tables. Now, you can do a quick walk-by (quicker past the open

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Dayton Fleamarket space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread mch
STeve Andre' wrote: I strongly suspect that the price ramp up is to encourage more smaller spaces and thus increase the diversity of equipment. But it's just as possible that it will stifle vendor attendance and result in even more open spaces - of which there were plenty the last couple

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread Kevin Custer
Read the rest of my previous post. In years past, confirmations of spaces was done the year before. This year, we can't even get a reply from them, and it's less than two months away. I've been attending Dayton since 1974. This year, I've had two folks contact me to see if I had gotten my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: cushcraft UHF 4 bay???

2006-03-26 Thread Mark A. Holman
any HD Truck shop has this in a huge can, also check NAPA, you may check the auto parts stores also in their Chemical Adhesives asile. you may want to consult the MSDS Sheet in case anyone has a chemical allergy. mark Robert Brown wrote: Hey guys Name here is Bob VE1BFX just

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Dayton Fleamarket space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread wn1b8
I think you have to look at it as a discount for the little guy, or better yet, a subsidization paid by the larger dealers. The premise being that the more tables you buy, the bigger dealer you are and the more you can afford to pay. That way, they keep the price lower for the individuals who

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Stuff for sale

2006-03-26 Thread Mark A. Holman
They musta been in a big hurry , I betcha it did not have what I wanted any way .. :-D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Gotta wonder about folks who post "For Sale: All the cool junk in my shed". But.. No name. No call. No phone.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Dayton Fleamarket space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread Richard
EmCommWest and the Hamfest/fleamarket are held here in Reno; this year it will be May 6 7th. There has been talk of it moving somewhere else after this year, Las Vegas, perhaps. Richard, N7TGB -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Dayton Fleamarket space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread n . mckie
From here, Reno is a nice 7 hour drive - Las Vegas is a whole lot more. I used to attend the Reno swapmeet by driving south the night before, staying overnight in an off the strip motel and going early the next morning. The Reno area really heats up (high desert) by about 11am

Re: [Repeater-Builder] AGT = IMTS ?

2006-03-26 Thread Dick
Hey, Eric: I had a full-blown duplex UHF IMTS way back when and it, too, had a Secode system. It was about as automatic as one could get back then. In full auto, it would locate an unused channel, lock on it and let you know that it was time to dial. You could also go semi-auto and poke around

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: cushcraft UHF 4 bay???

2006-03-26 Thread Butch Kanvick
Permatex makes a version of it and it is called Anti-Seize, usually in a grey container and if it gets thick, just pour in and mix a little bit of engine oil to thin it. You should be able to get it almost any where. Works great on everything. Butch, KE7FEL From: Mark A. Holman [EMAIL

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention and other Amateur Flea Markets/Events

2006-03-26 Thread skipp025
Read the rest of my previous post. In years past, confirmations of spaces was done the year before. This year, we can't even get a reply from them, and it's less than two months away. Probably true... but a number of glitches have happened to the Dayton Club. They had to kick out the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread skipp025
Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been attending Dayton since 1974. Man... I thought I was an old fart... (I actually might be one) this explains much Kevin. You (and I need professional help). This year, I've had two folks contact me to see if I had gotten my tickets yet, as

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Dayton Fleamarket space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread skipp025
Hi Scott, From what I understand, the additional space charges not being discounted was done on purpose to keep (the many) people/vendors in check regarding excessive space use during the jam packed years. When you have/had 25,000 plus people at an event, the space rental was cheap to the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention and other Amateur Flea Markets/Events

2006-03-26 Thread n . mckie
Same bat-room ... Neil Stay tuned, Same Bat Time... Same Bat Channel cheers, skipp Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *

[Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread skipp025
May 06 will be a busy month: Livermore, CA. LARK Ham Swap May 7 Emcommwest (Reno, NV.) May 67 Maybe the South SF Bay (what was the Foothill swap) May 13 (if the weather and schedule permits) IWCE Vegas May 16-19 (Commercial two-way radio Convention) Go to meet Elvis... Sacramento Ham

RE: [Repeater-Builder] AGT = IMTS ?

2006-03-26 Thread Eric Lemmon
Dick, You have pretty much described the primary feature of the IMTS (Improved Mobile Telephone System). Although there were 11 channels available, even large cities normally had no more than seven or eight assigned. One vacant channel was always transmitting an idle tone, which all IMTS

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread John J. Riddell
Now Hold On guys.. I've been there every year since 1973never missed one ! and we'll be there this year :-)) This will be year 34 As a somewhat old Ham, I really appreciate them putting some seating at the end of each row in the flea market. I do miss the big tent at the left

Re: [Repeater-Builder] AGT = IMTS ?

2006-03-26 Thread Dick
Eric, in my humble opinion, the cellular system should have stayed analog. From what I've read, the dropped call rate for digitals is about 8 times that of the analogs. The only advantage to going digital is thye ability to crowd more traffic onto a given bandwidth. TNX for the infoi. 73,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I've said many times that the OR WA groups that put on ham conventions flea markets could learn a lot from Dayton the California meetings. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:54:32 AM CST From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNIP You guys up in Oregon and WA. don't do a

[Repeater-Builder] RE: Hamfests in general

2006-03-26 Thread N9WYS
I have noticed that attendance is down a LOT at the hamfests around my area (Chicago)... After talking to some of the vendors, I have to agree that it is becoming more of a coffee-klatch where old farts get together and shoot the bull rather go to buy boat anchors. Even the commercial vendors

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Hamfests in general

2006-03-26 Thread KA9QJG
I also notice the Lack of Attendance by Sellers, Mark I live in N/W In and just went to the Small Michigan City In Hamfest, Sat it Snowed and it was more like a Garage sale, I could not even find a Few Radio parts I was looking for that use to be common I did find parts for My kitchen sink, a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Hamfests in general

2006-03-26 Thread KA9QJG
Sorry that Hamfest Post was to go direct to Mark, but what I said was True and NO apologies for that. 73 De Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread no6b
At 3/26/2006 09:52, you wrote: May 06 will be a busy month: Dayton May 19-20 Brauts and smoke from the hot dog tent. I think the Sunday morning Dayton brats will become a tradition for me. I'm not a brat person (I'm not I'm not), but there's something about a brat for breakfast on the last

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread Mike Young
My first Dayton was in 1969. Saturday was the only day. We parked about 3 or 4 rows away from the main entrance at about 10 in the morning and closed the show around 5pm. The arena was the only area used I believe. The big dealers were Drake, Mosley, Cushcraft, Collins, Swan among others

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Hamfests in general

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd
Hello all from Adam Kb2Jpd Just returned from the Timonium Hamfest over at the Maryland Fairgrounds in Maryland. It was a decent size hamfest and there was plenty of stuff to buy, swap and take home. There was the eBay effect - I call it when a vendor is selling a item, and had priorly

OT: Again RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention and other Amateur Flea Markets/Events

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Finch
Skipp, How would inflating the prices be a good thing? This Hamfest is much higher that any other I have ever been to! Granted, it is the largest but does that make it right for the to double the charge for one more fleamarket space? $70.00 for one space is really high enough, I don't

[Repeater-Builder] Mouse-tr II chassis - free

2006-03-26 Thread Jeff DePolo
I have a Mastr II chassis that apparently a group of mice were living in without permission and without paying rent (is there such a thing as a mouse crack house?). Anyway, if anyone wants it, let me know before before 10 PM EST tonight else it goes out for the morning trash. It's just the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread n . mckie
Sure, I have attended several Pacific Division ARRL Conventions - each one has had its peculiar screwups ... one of those I don't think they'll ever catch on to. I have attended a few Southwest Division ARRL Conventions ... one I attended in the early seventies, was as mis-matched as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread JOHN MACKEY
It is interesting to go to the Northwest Division conventions hamfests hear the attendees talk about how large the convention is or how good it is. These comments make if obvious they have never been to any REAL conventions hamfests. Sea-Pac is a prime example of this issue. -- Original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread n . mckie
One of the nice things about the local convention and hamfests in the northwest is the lack of the higher costs of travelling further to the distant events. Just my opinion, I know, but costs (fuel prices, hotel rooms etc.) aren't getting any cheaper. John, have you ever

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Hamfests in general

2006-03-26 Thread Adam T. Cately
I live in NW Ohio, near Toledo, and I waited until Thursday evening to email the Michigan City hamfest coordinator to ask for table spaces. I got them - he wasted no time in getting back to me, to get me to show up. THIS kind of effort deserves to be noticed about the smaller swaps. YEAH

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread Adam T. Cately
things were snipped Lack of communication - what a concept in the radio world!?! I've had the same circumstance twice now since the club took back the actual running of the hamfest - Two years in a row, I tried to get spots for myself in the flea market, with no return response from

Re: OT: Again RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention and other Amateur Flea Markets/Events

2006-03-26 Thread Micheal Salem
Paul: Perhaps it is logical to conclude that the escalating flea market costs are to discourage big vendors coming in and taking all the spaces from small vendors and so encourage more small vendors. Of course, a small vendor is a relative thing at Dayton. Still, I know people who buy flea

Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Neil- No, I have never attended CES or IWCE or APCO. NONE of those groups are amateur radio gatherings. I have attended the following amateur radio gatherings: Dayton Hamvention (MANY times), Foot Hill College Swap meets, about 3 ARRL National Conventions. I have also attended (non-amateur

Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread n . mckie
Hi John ... Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:07:08 -0600 Neil- No, I have never attended CES or IWCE or APCO. NONE of those groups are amateur radio

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mouse-tr II chassis - free

2006-03-26 Thread vmckever
Jeff, Sounds like a good piece for recycling. You should be able to get a couple of bucks from the metal recycle guys. Vincent N6OA - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 5:58 PM Subject:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mouse-tr II chassis - free

2006-03-26 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
Jeff, Pull the cabling harnesses out, and throw it in the dishwasher.. I used to do that with old Collins gear when I worked in radio repair. You just gotta be careful how much dishwashing detergent you use... not fun when all the resistor bands disappear! Do it right and it will come out

Re: [Repeater-Builder] May 06 is a busy Month

2006-03-26 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Yea, I stopped after 3 ARRL National Conventions because they were so VERY boring. I don't need IWCE or APCO for repeater building supplies. Dayton and Ebay supply pretty much all I need. Thanks for the info on the Metrum II. -- Original Message -- Received: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:36:24

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding Bandpass Can to Duplexer

2006-03-26 Thread ldgelectronics
Herold, I agree that it would be a ton easier with a network analyzer. What happened in my case was the loop in the PD-1173 can was about 8.5 inches long (8.5 down and 8.5 back up). It seemed that was way longer as compared to what was seen in other bandpass cans. After reading the theory

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two-Way Radio Shop

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Finch
Skipp, This was a Motorola Service Shop in West Texas. They were trying to get into the wireless Internet business and went first class, new trucks and all. They only lasted about 6 months. The main thing I would be selling is the Motorola Service manuals, everything from Micors to Syntors and

RE: [SPAM] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Adding Bandpass Can to Duplexer

2006-03-26 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
Dwayne, I have a HP-8753E, and a HP8753C.. bring your toys to Manassas during business hours, and we can take a look at it. 73 Mike K5JMP www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ldgelectronics Sent: Sunday, March 26,

OT: Again RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention and other Amateur Flea M

2006-03-26 Thread skipp025
Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skipp, How would inflating the prices be a good thing? It's probably not a good thing. From what I understand it was done to discourage people from overkill hogging of space when the flea market was greatly impacted. Many of us know people who rent the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Two-Way Radio Shop

2006-03-26 Thread skipp025
Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skipp, This was a Motorola Service Shop in West Texas. They were trying to get into the wireless Internet business and went first class, new trucks and all. They only lasted about 6 months. The wifi guys out here on the West Coast are beating each

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Dayton Flea market space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Finch
Joe, I think you hit the nail on the head, when I was there two years ago I heard that the family that owns the complex really did not want to be in that kind of business and wanted to sell it to a land developer. I have no idea if that true but several people said the same thing. It's really

[Repeater-Builder] Band pass cavity loop lengths

2006-03-26 Thread skipp025
What happened in my case was the loop in the PD-1173 can was about 8.5 inches long (8.5 down and 8.5 back up). It seemed that was way longer as compared to what was seen in other bandpass cans. After reading the theory page on Repeater-Builder from John Portune W6NBC, he says it really

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Finch
Kevin, Sorry about being the one that started this thread, it's not really the correct message board for it. See below for a link to a Hamfest group. I understand last years Hamvention was the first in years that it did not rain, I was not there, I was the year before and I was not able to get

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: Dayton Fleamarket space prices?

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Finch
Scott, OK, I will go along with that but I am not a big dealer but I learned two years ago when I was there with nothing sold on Saturday due to rain you have to be under a tent. That along would take at least three slots. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two-Way Radio Shop

2006-03-26 Thread mch
What is your space number at Dayton? (if you know yet) Joe M. Paul Finch wrote: Skipp, This was a Motorola Service Shop in West Texas. They were trying to get into the wireless Internet business and went first class, new trucks and all. They only lasted about 6 months. The main

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RE: Hamfests in general

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Finch
Just a comment, the Weatherford Hamfest has been down in vendors for the last two years. This year I think there was at least 30% less than two years ago! Paul -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Adam Vazquez

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two-Way Radio Shop

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Finch
Joe, I may not go, I still have the application on the computer but can't decide. I guess it's sort of my own little protest about the pricing, I also have a invitation to go to IWCE in Las Vegas during the same time frame. I may got to the Belton Hamfest that's coming up instead. If your

[Repeater-Builder] Weather station and repeater

2006-03-26 Thread capvan1
Hi, I am the new repeater trustee for our club, the Connecticut Valley FM Association. I am investigating a project to replace our aging Spectrum repeater on top of Mt. Ascutney, here in Vermont. It's a very basic set-up, but is showing it's age. I would REALLY like to implement a weather

[Repeater-Builder] Mirage D1010 Repeater Amp

2006-03-26 Thread Michael Antoine
Hello Group, Anyone out there own or has worked on a Mirage D1010 repeater amp 70cm 10 watt in 100 watts out, can't get the one I have to work been sitting in my cellar for awhile, took 440 repeater down a few years ago now trying to get things to back up and running again, Thanks again

[Repeater-Builder] Black paint!

2006-03-26 Thread gervais fillion
hi well it is a bit o-t. i want to paint my antenna black,it is a flat black. i know there is a advise too not buy paint with iron in it or something about it,,, because of the swr involve when you paint it, if i remember this is a bit special paint for antenna ,, anyone have the or one company

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention looking for channel elements

2006-03-26 Thread mch
On the contrary - many of the repeater items I buy are at Dayton. Side topic: Does anyone have any ham band Motorola or GE channel elements for sale? (by ham band, I mean crystalled on ham freqs) Also, only Micor era or newer - no Motrac, Motran, or T-power. I'm also looking for ANY VHF GE PLL

Re: OT: Again RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dayton Hamvention and other Amateur Flea M

2006-03-26 Thread mch
skipp025 wrote: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skipp, How would inflating the prices be a good thing? It's probably not a good thing. From what I understand it was done to discourage people from overkill hogging of space when the flea market was greatly impacted. Many of us know

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread JamesMNelson
Hey guys, Just my two cents worth. http://www.hamvention.org/ticket06.htm Scroll down about two or three page lengths. We will start to mail out tickets April 1, 2006. I am NOT affiliated with Dayton at all. I just thought that this might help answer some questions. Hope to see you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two-Way Radio Shop

2006-03-26 Thread n . mckie
Reminds me of my garage ... Neil Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two-Way Radio Shop Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:37:38 -0600 Skipp, This was a Motorola Service Shop in West Texas. They were trying

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread n . mckie
I like discussing it here !!! and am not about to subscribe to yet another remailer. Neil - WA6KLA Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:17:22 -0600 Kevin,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Hamvention

2006-03-26 Thread JGielis
Yea Kevin; Right on Paul !! Hey Boys, go and play your trumpet somewhere else, it's clogging up my bandwidth. CUL John On 27/03/2006 1:17:22 PM, repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Kevin, Sorry about being the one that started this thread, it's not really the correct message board for