[Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread feederclamp
Hi, Just a question to ask what type of coax which you would recommend? Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
For what frequency, power, intended use? 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 10:13 AM 07/31/05, you wrote: Hi, Just a question to ask what type of coax which you would recommend? Thanks Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread Andrew G.
LMR400 (not flex!) by times microwave if on a budget. Otherwise 7/8" heliaxor even 1 7/8" heliax is better if money is no object. Andy KC2GOW__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:50 AM 7/31/2005 -0700, you wrote: LMR400 (not flex!) by times microwave if on a budget. NO! Bad bad bad bad! One should NEVER use these type cables in full-duplex service, as you're just asking for trouble. This is a topic that has reached dead horse status on this list and I'm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread Russ Stafford
Recommend for what use? What band or frequency? - Original Message - From: feederclamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] coax question Hi, Just a question to ask what type of coax which you would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread Mathew Quaife
What is needed is a source for good Mil Spec RG-214 DS Cable. How about some leads. Mathew Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:50 AM 7/31/2005 -0700, you wrote: LMR400 (not flex!) by times microwave if on a budget.NO! Bad bad bad bad! One should NEVER use these type cables in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread Steven Passmore, kf6fkk
: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question What is needed is a source for good Mil Spec RG-214 DS Cable. How about some leads. Mathew Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:50 AM 7/31/2005 -0700, you wrote: LMR400 (not flex!) by times microwave if on a budget.NO! Bad

RE: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread David VanHorn
Well, I'll toss FSJ1-50 into the mix. No worries about percentage of shield, or bimetallic problems. It's 1/4 miniature hardline. It connects nicely into PL-259 connectors with the larger adaptor, and into N and BNC connectors. 100% shielding. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread Russ Stafford
- From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question What is needed is a source for good Mil Spec RG-214 DS Cable. How about some leads. Mathew Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question

2005-07-31 Thread Ray Retzlaff
check this out. http://users.erols.com/rfc/coax.htm 73 K6PNG - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] coax question What is needed is a source

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Neil McKie
but no /U be careful! You could get burned. Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Also, the 'real' RG

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Joe
At 06:22 PM 11/28/2004, you wrote: Why are you guys still using PL259 connectors on any thing but HF? Because Motorola loves to use them on their repeaters and duplexersJoe Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Neil McKie
shield. Robin N7XGG - From: Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Scott Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread russ
luck, Very best of 73, Russ, W3CH Trustee, Metro-Comm, INC W3PS/RPT. Repeater system. - Original Message - From: Scott Overstreet To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Scott Overstreet Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 8:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Mark Holman
: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question The Teflon and silver connectors I have used absolutely will not stay tight. Now it says Amphenol or Andrews or it doesn't go to the repeater site. Yes they shor do solder purty, I am still wondering about

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread russ
All ways use a good silver, silver Teflon PL-259 if you must use a PL-259 at all. 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Mark Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question also

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Gerald Pelnar
PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:43 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Look on ebay, there is a guy selling 1/4 hardline for very cheap. Also a PL259 will solder right on it. To get the ground soldered, don't worry about the wholes

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread NØATH
I have a couple of new N connectors for it if you need um / Dave / NØATH - Original Message - From: Gerald Pelnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question I got several 25 foot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Mathew Quaife
: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question I got several 25 foot pieces of 3/8 heliax I wanted to cut up and use for jumpers. What are my chances of getting a PL259 soldered on to it? I guess I could have tried it before I posted, but someone might save me the trouble. Gerald - Original Message

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread russ
] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question I got several 25 foot pieces of 3/8 heliax I wanted to cut up and use for jumpers. What are my chances of getting a PL259 soldered on to it? I guess I could have tried

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread albemarle7
A very nice article for installing PL259 connectors on hard line can be found at http://repeater.w4zt.com/duplexer/superflex/index.html . The article titled Using Andrew FSJ1-50A 1/4 Superflex Heliax with PL-259 Connectors is the one to read. Someone also suggested drilling holes in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Bob Dengler
At 11/28/2004 09:43 AM, you wrote: Look on ebay, there is a guy selling 1/4 hardline for very cheap. Also a PL259 will solder right on it. To get the ground soldered, don't worry about the wholes in the middel of the connector, but rather solder at the end of connector to the outer conductor.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
connectors, but the Motorola duplexer uses UHF connectors. Thanks for the offer. Gerald - Original Message - From: NØATH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 23:44 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question I have a couple of new N

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-29 Thread Gerald Pelnar
Thanks, Gerald - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] See my earlier post on the 1/4 Hardline, same applies for the 3/8. I did forget to mention that you had to use an insert for the 1/4 and no insert for the 3/8. On the 3/8 it is a bit tight, all I did was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Mathew Quaife
I will tell you first hand, NOISE AND DESENSE. I asked the same questions not long ago, and found the reuslts to be true. I have back 15 years later after a quiet time from electronics, of which most I have lost along the way. But here's the story. I just installed a new tower for the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Mathew Quaife
Oh yeah, forget the other half of your question, 1/4" Hardline bends real nice inside the cabinet. I have two repeaters in one cabinet, and the 1/4" superflex does a nice job. Good Luck with the project. Mathew OK guys ---Ihear you all sayingthat hard line is better but none of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Chuck Kelsey
8:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question OK guys ---Ihear you all sayingthat hard line is better but none of you have said what is the actual problem with 9913 flex or LMR-400. In other words---What is wrong with a quality foil under braid "100%"shielded fo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread dcflux
I just made some cables for my repeater to replace the RG-213 between duplexer and radios. The only double shielded coax I could find locally from my Hook up was something called Certified Quality Flexi 4XL 8IIA. It looks like a flexible version of 9913 with a stranded center conductor

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread rogeradio
Don't forget RG-214 (double-shielded RG-213) Roger Hansen, W6TOZ Auburn, WA Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is

[Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Scott Overstreet
OK guys ---Ihear you all sayingthat hard line is better but none of you have said what is the actual problem with 9913 flex or LMR-400. In other words---What is wrong with a quality foil under braid "100%"shielded foamcable and I'm assuming use between receiver and duplexer, transmitter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread NØATH
you get the picture. Best of luck - Dave - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question I just made some cables for my repeater to replace the RG-213 between

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Scott
s.com Cc: Scott Overstreet Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question OK guys ---Ihear you all sayingthat hard line is better but none of you have said what is the actual problem with 9913 flex or LMR-400. In other words---What is wrong

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread dcflux
, 73 Scott, N6NXI  - Original Message -  From: Scott Overstreet  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  Cc: Scott Overstreet  Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 5:44 PM  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question  OK guys ---I hear you all saying that hard line is better but none of you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Mathew Quaife
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question I just made some cables for my repeater to replace the RG-213 between duplexer and radios. The only double shielded coax I could find locally

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question OK guys ---I hear you all saying that hard line is better but none of you have said what is the actual problem with 9913 flex or LMR-400. In other words---What is wrong with a quality foil under braid 100%shielded foam cable and I'm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Joe
--- Scott Overstreet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK guys ---I hear you all saying that hard line is better but none of you have said what is the actual problem with 9913 flex or LMR-400. It's been said over and over, the foil rubs against the braid and causes noise. This is especially bad on

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Lawyers ?? 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message-From: Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:41 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comCc: ScottSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Thanks AllSounds like I'd better go with some

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Wade Lake
- KR7K - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question --- Scott Overstreet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK guys ---I hear you all saying that hard line is better

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread N9WYS
:41 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Scott Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Thanks AllSounds like I'd better go with some sort of hard line for my between unit RF interconnectsto keep between cable leakage to tolerable limitsand probably noise too. But this brings

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread russ
- Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Also, the 'real' RG-214 is seriously more expensive. Neil Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: RG-214 type

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Robin
shield and 97 or 98% braid on the second shield. Robin N7XGG From: Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Scott Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Thanks AllSounds like I'd better go with some

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread James
]] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Scott Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Thanks AllSounds like I'd better go with some sort of hard line for my between unit RF interconnectsto keep between cable leakage to tolerable

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-28 Thread Kevin Custer
Robin wrote: Why are you guys still using PL259 connectors on any thing but HF? Because manufacturers like GE and Motorola use(d) them for everything including 800 megs. While BNC and N connectors offer a constant impedance type connection, there isn't anything

[Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-27 Thread rrath
I have been told - do not use coax that has foil. Well, I am looking at LMR coax and it has foil. What are you repeaters owners/maintainers using? Rod kc7vqr Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-27 Thread James
Nothing less than Andrews Hardline!! usually LDF 4-50A (1/2) or LDF 5-50A (7/8). Times cable is great except that it has that foil, and it cannot be easily grounded to the ground windows available in most installations. Andrews has kits that bond the cable to the ground windows by bonding

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-27 Thread russ
Message - From: James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Nothing less than Andrews Hardline!! usually LDF 4-50A (1/2) or LDF 5-50A (7/8). Times cable is great except that it has

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-27 Thread russ
Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question I have been told - do not use coax that has foil. Well, I am looking at LMR coax and it has foil. What are you repeaters owners/maintainers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-27 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:24 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question I have been told - do not use coax that has foil. Well, I am looking at LMR coax and it has foil. What are you repeaters owners/maintainers using? Rod kc7vqr Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo

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2004-11-27 Thread Neil McKie
Andrew Heliax. Hope this helps, Neil - WA6KLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told - do not use coax that has foil. Well, I am looking at LMR coax and it has foil. What are you repeaters owners/maintainers using? Rod kc7vqr Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question

2004-11-27 Thread russ
: Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax Question Heliax cable for transmission line, superflex heliax for jumpers and RG-142 or RG-400 double shielded (both braid) coax for between the repeater and the duplexer. No foil shield anywhere. Chuck WB2EDV