Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Deviation

2005-12-18 Thread bradley glen
Gm 300 does have an internal deviation setting (max dev )on the rf board side of the radio. R302 -VCO mod being max dev and R164 pot being Ref (ctcss) There is also the squelch pot R60. I do have some mods for bi-level squelch on these radios that work just as well (better ) than the Micor

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Deviation

2005-12-18 Thread Bob M.
Is there an official procedure for adjusting both R302 and R164? I thought those were set at the factory and the RSS deviation was supposed to be used in the field. Bob M. == --- bradley glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gm 300 does have an internal deviation setting (max dev )on the rf board

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GM300 Deviation

2005-12-18 Thread bradley glen
Good Day Bob Yes these are factory set for the diffrent bandwidths 10/12,5/20/25khz although there is no technical reason why one can change them in the field to optimise your system. What I do is check the RSS settings and make sure they are roughly in the centre of their software and then

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tune Procedure for Mitrek T43JJA

2005-12-18 Thread Neil McKie
You might want to start here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/mitrek/mitrek-index.html Neil - WA6KLA Scott wrote: Would anyone have the tune up procedure for a VHF T43JJA Mitrek, or maybe want to part with a manual. Putting together an APRS radio, and need it. Scott NA4IT

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DR-235 for repeater

2005-12-18 Thread no6b
At 12/17/2005 08:05, you wrote: With regard to interfacing radios via packet data ports. Has anyone looked at the audio flatness of these ports? Also, some rigs have a 1200 baud in/out and a 9600 baud in/out, which (apparently) have very different audio levels. I suspect there are other

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread no6b
At 12/17/2005 10:15, you wrote: I've got the same setup. I also have a 4-section Celwave bandpass filter between the duplexer and preamp. I found that the 17dB gain was way too much for the receiver, and the noise level increased dramatically, to the point that I had to tighten the squelch

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread no6b
At 12/17/2005 11:07, you wrote: Bob M. wrote: I found that the 17dB gain was way too much for the receiver, and the noise level increased dramatically, to the point that I had to tighten the squelch settings. Think about this for a minute, if the noise level increased, the squelch circuit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread no6b
At 12/17/2005 10:21, you wrote: At 10:15 AM 12/17/2005 -0800, you wrote: I found that the 17dB gain was way too much for the receiver ---That's one reason I swear by Chip's stuff for over 15 year. He places stability and noise figure over gain. The result are preamps with extremely low

RE: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Mike Mullarkey
That all depends on witch pre-amp you buy what spec you need for your site noise. I also swear buy his product. Oregon Repeater Linking Group Mike Mullarkey 6539 E Street Springfield, OR 97478 www.orlg.org -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tune Procedure for Mitrek T43JJA

2005-12-18 Thread Eric Lemmon
Scott, The Mitrek VHF Service Manual 6881045E70 is still available from Motorola Parts (800-422-4210) for about $30. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:28 PM

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Al Wolfe
Speaking of UHF preamps, does anyone have any experience/recommendations for tower mounted preamps? I have a receiving only site at 425 feet AGL, DB420 antenna, 7/8 line, that feeds five receivers at present. Tried an ARR on the ground before the splitter but it seemed to overload from UHF

[Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread Vincent Caruso
I would like to install one antenna for four link receivers.How complicated is this? What do I need to do this? Thanks in advance YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread Eric Lemmon
Vincent, It's easy! What you need is known as a multicoupler. This unit usually comprises a preselector to limit the bandwidth of the incoming signals, a low-noise amplifier, and a splitter with two, four, or eight output ports. The gain of the amplifier is tailored to the number of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Kevin Custer
Think about this for a minute, if the noise level increased, the squelch circuit would have seen MORE noise and rammed the squelch closed. What actually happened is, adding a better device in front of the receiver lowered the receivers total noise figure, decreasing the noise in the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread Mathew Quaife
How about a lead to such vendors and some model numbers as well, would be helpful. Mathew Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent,It's easy! What you need is known as a multicoupler. This unit usually comprises a preselector to limit the bandwidth of the incoming signals, a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread bradley glen
Good Day If you are able to lose = - 6 db of the signal to each receiver you could use a passive device which you can build yourself and save many many dollars. There is pleny of information on the web on a 4-port Wilkonson divider . The same phasing harness is used for a 4-stack dipole

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Eric Lemmon
Al, I agree, you have a major-league headache! However, I believe that a tower-top preamp is not the solution. The 7/8 inch feedline is rather small for the frequency band and the length, with more than 3.5 dB of loss, but it'll have to do. My suggestion is to put two 8 bandpass filter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor and ICS SingleM Controller

2005-12-18 Thread Kevin Custer
Stephen Rice wrote: Well Kevin I sent some questions to the ICS group but pretty much got all the answers by playing with a touch tone pad and some wires so I could program using the Cntrl input. Messages aren't approved yet so don't show up on the group ! What I found is there are 2 errors on

[Repeater-Builder] Tait receiver module T835 series I needed

2005-12-18 Thread Bernd Maestling
Hello, I'm searching for a working Tait T835-20 or -25 series I receiver module or a source to get one. A source or seller in europe would be fine ;-) 73 Bernd DM5BM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Coy Hilton
Unless your test banch is inside a Fariday Cage you can'y rule out extraneous signals. If there is a strong transmitter near by it's still questionable. But you're right about off frequency or off channel signals causing quieting in the receiver. This is another reason for pre filtering the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Coy Hilton
Al, Having to cover that band you should Notch out the paging transmitters. All preamps that I know of are broad band devices and that is likely why you got over loading. I would suggest a Notch cavity for each paging frequency in series with between your antenna line and the preamp/splitter.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
Speaking of UHF preamps, does anyone have any experience/recommendations for tower mounted preamps? Al, My experiences with tower-mounted preamps have been less than perfect. Good designs will have dual amplifiers (redundant) and/or a bypass relay. Aside from amplifier damage due

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Q: TE systems amps info needed

2005-12-18 Thread Steve
Well we just installed a 1412RRN on our system this weekend and it seems like a nice unit. Yes there isn't much info out there on the web about TE Systems. So I did want to post a link to the opperating and service manual that I scanned in.. For HIGH-POWER 144-148MHz AMPLIFIER: MODEL 1412, MODEL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
On a somewhat related note, has anyone used LNA Technology's (Chet Pierson K3TV) preamps? He has some interesting designs. www.lnatechnology.com --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread Vincent Caruso
Thanks for all the great info! YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread Ralph Hogan
Along these lines, someone on the list mentioned using coax multi-dropped (coax tee) off to each receiver for a voter application. Can't find the original posting. I was curious about the lengths required between the antenna and then to each radio? tnx, Ralph W4XE If you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack 10% Off Coupon good to 12/23

2005-12-18 Thread Mark A. Holman
Say I did see a AKAI TV set there seems like they are venturing the consumer mkt. also Sams Club carries AKAI also. I already have a RCA TV Neil McKie wrote: May work ok ... if you bother going to radio shaft at all ... Neil - WA6KLA Mike Morris wrote: Date:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread Joe
How many feet of 7/8 line? How high is the antenna? We try to avoid tower mounted preamps at work due to the trouble servicing them. It requires a tower climber to get to it, and then you hope that he knows how to service it. 7/8 cable should have less than 1dB of loss per 100 feet at

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread no6b
At 12/18/2005 17:12, you wrote: On a somewhat related note, has anyone used LNA Technology's (Chet Pierson K3TV) preamps? He has some interesting designs. www.lnatechnology.com --- Jeff I haven't, but notice the specs on the cavity input 432 MHz preamp: 3 dB

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Q: TE systems amps info needed

2005-12-18 Thread Maire-Radios
got a UHF amp from them about 2 years ago. was to be 150 watts output with 5 watts in. gave them all the info ever the freg we wanted it tuned to. when it came in is put out 134 to 137 watts with the 5 watts in. called a number of time but no call back. not sure if they still make product.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread Vincent Caruso
That sounds like an interesting solution, I would be interested in learning more about it. Ralph Hogan wrote: Along these lines, someone on the list mentioned using coax multi-dropped (coax tee) off to each receiver for a voter application. Can't find the original posting. I was curious

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread skipp025
Hi Al, Both Telewave and Sinclair make tower mounted preamps, but you'd better do much planning and engineering to get the design/order right the first time. As we saw with Alex in the South American VHF trunking System. Many out of the box offerings can cause more problems vs how much

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread skipp025
If you use any of the below listed devices, you'd better chuck the pre-selector (rx-filter) and put something better in front of the preamp. Been there, done that, coffee mug and tee-shirt. cheers, skipp Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good idea! Here are two: Sinclair:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread skipp025
Jeff DePolo WN3A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experiences with tower-mounted preamps have been less than perfect. I've not see a perfect out of the box tower mounted rx preamp assembly... yet. Some are good and well designed, but none have been perfect. ...a number of tower-top preamps

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Preamplifier

2005-12-18 Thread skipp025
Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7/8 cable should have less than 1dB of loss per 100 feet at 450Mhz. If it is a short run of cable, you would be better off putting the preamp where you can get at it, For 98% plus people... Joe is right on the money. Especially when a really good antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread N8BQN
I've posted this a few times... **IF** loss on the incoming signal(s) isn't an issue ... 1/2-wave (or multiple thereof) jumpers, daisy-chained between Ts. [rx.ant-coax] -- [T-(rx)] -jumper- [T-(rx)] -jumper- [last rx] Our RXs did not exhibit problematic interactions -- used RG58 PL259s. Our

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack 10% Off Coupon good to 12/23

2005-12-18 Thread Mathew Quaife
From a Radioshack dealer stand point fo view, right now, you should ba able to get a 10% discount on a great majority of items from Radioshack, and yes Neil, they are giving the shaft, and many reasons why, the got the gadget guys in there, and they are always a day late, and 1/3 over priced.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Multiple receivers one antenna ???

2005-12-18 Thread skipp025
The below is an old Decibel Products method and it does works (and was used) on their Tx Combiners. I have one here... along with some very limited paperwork on it. cheers, skipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've posted this a few times... **IF** loss on the incoming signal(s) isn't an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack 10% Off Coupon good to 12/23

2005-12-18 Thread Neil McKie
I used to have a RCA TV ... was a black and white ... got it back in the late fifties. Now I have a Sony, a Toshiba and a couple of others too. Neil Mark A. Holman wrote: Say I did see a AKAI TV set there seems like they are venturing the consumer mkt. also Sams Club carries

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Radio Shack 10% Off Coupon good to 12/23

2005-12-18 Thread Neil McKie
.. And the best part, Out Of Stock. Should be called The Out House ... out of this and out of that. Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Q: TE systems amps info needed

2005-12-18 Thread KA9QJG
By any chance dos anyone have the Info on the TE SYSTEMS 2210RA 220 Repeater Amp. Happy Holidays to All Thanks Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an