RE: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-27 Thread Tim Anderson
> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Nick Chalko wrote: > > > Tim Anderson wrote: > > > >> For advocates of URI parsing, what problems are you trying > >> to solve? > >> > >> > >> > >* Discovery of "what is available" > >* Repository exploring. > >* Auto cleanup

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-25 Thread Nick Chalko
Here is my 20 second URI http://host/[rootdir]/Orginzation/Product/version/ one dir each for Org, Prod, and Ver. After that is dependent on the kind of Product. ie the java-artifact-spec. So lets do a 20 sec java artifact spec Stephen McConnell wrote: Nick Chalko wrote: Tim Anderson wrote: For ad

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
Nick Chalko wrote: Tim Anderson wrote: For advocates of URI parsing, what problems are you trying to solve? * Discovery of "what is available" * Repository exploring. * Auto cleanup of repositories. The URI spec is too loose. I completely agree. But I just want to add that all I wa

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Not a criticism, but I'd prefer to know the requirements, > before writing the tools. I know, I've been a huge advocate of that, but I'm starting to worry we are in analysis paralysis. Logical URIs are so virtual it is easy to miss practical implications. As such, I'd like to test the theory a

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Nick Chalko
Tim Anderson wrote: Not a criticism, but I'd prefer to know the requirements, before writing the tools. Here is a user story. point a "tool" at the http://repo.apache.org and have it display "what is available" This is much easier to do if we can tell the version from the product from the

RE: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Tim Anderson
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2003 5:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's > > > > > Tim Anderson wrote: > > > > >For advocates of URI parsing, what problems are you trying > > >to solve? > > This i

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Nick Chalko
Tim Anderson wrote: From: Nick Chalko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tim Anderson wrote: http://repo.apache.org/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha.jar http://repo.apache.org/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9.jar We really need to harden the URI spec a little and the "/" is a good start. I missed

RE: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Tim Anderson
> From: Nick Chalko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Tim Anderson wrote: > > >>http://repo.apache.org/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha.jar > >>http://repo.apache.org/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9.jar > >> > >>We really need to harden the URI spec a little and the "/" is a > >>good start. > >> > >> > >> > > >

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> Tim Anderson wrote: > > >For advocates of URI parsing, what problems are you trying > >to solve? This is a simple matter of practicality. We've agreed to delay metadata so we can get a nice/simple repository structure w/o all the differences of opinion that metadata might introduce. We basicall

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Nick Chalko
Tim Anderson wrote: http://repo.apache.org/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha/alpha.jar http://repo.apache.org/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9.jar We really need to harden the URI spec a little and the "/" is a good start. I missed that the "jars" or type dir was required. what about, http://repo.apache.org/

RE: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Tim Anderson
> From: Nick Chalko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Tim Anderson wrote: > > >For advocates of URI parsing, what problems are you trying > >to solve? > * Discovery of "what is available" > * Repository exploring. > * Auto cleanup of repositories. > > The URI spec is too loose. > > As far

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-24 Thread Nick Chalko
Tim Anderson wrote: For advocates of URI parsing, what problems are you trying to solve? * Discovery of "what is available" * Repository exploring. * Auto cleanup of repositories. The URI spec is too loose. As far as I can tell these are legal http://repo.apache.org/alpha/alpha/alpha/

RE: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-19 Thread Tim Anderson
> From: Nick Chalko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > >Seems to me > >that there is limited utility to being able to parse the URI, > and that the > >real key is having meta-data with which to assemble it. But others don't > >seem to agree with that view. They want to parse

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-18 Thread Anou Manavalan
to be taught of the organization as a separate entity than the other segments and how to parse that out. This is a small thing, but it would be nice to make it simple instead of complex. regards, -Anou From: Nick Chalko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-18 Thread Nick Chalko
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Seems to me that there is limited utility to being able to parse the URI, and that the real key is having meta-data with which to assemble it. But others don't seem to agree with that view. They want to parse semantic information from the URI. The semantic information is

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-18 Thread Nick Chalko
Tim Anderson wrote: Alternative approaches would be to: . limit each *-specifier to a single path segment (i.e, disallow "/") Hopefully, the proposals show that this is too restrictive It works the name are just very long, and thie directory listings are large. . include delimeters in the URI

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-16 Thread Stephen McConnell
Noel J. Bergman wrote: maybe the [organization]/[product] notion is artificial. What [organization]/[product] and [organization]/[product]/[version] do is to establish a path to an logical artifact. At any of it does is establish a path to a logical artifact. Seems to me that there is limite

RE: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> maybe the [organization]/[product] notion is artificial. > What [organization]/[product] and [organization]/[product]/[version] > do is to establish a path to an logical artifact. At any of it does is establish a path to a logical artifact. Seems to me that there is limited utility to being abl

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-16 Thread Stephen McConnell
Tim Anderson wrote: From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick Chalko wrote: Given this spec repository-uri = access-specifier "/" product-specifier "/" version-specifier "/" artifact-specifier What is the version of this URL http://repo.apache.org/org/apache/com

RE: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-16 Thread Tim Anderson
> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Nick Chalko wrote: > > > Given this spec > > repository-uri = access-specifier "/" product-specifier "/" > > version-specifier "/" artifact-specifier > > > > > > What is the version of this URL > > http://repo.apache.org/o

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-16 Thread Stephen McConnell
Nick Chalko wrote: Given this spec repository-uri = access-specifier "/" product-specifier "/" version-specifier "/" artifact-specifier What is the version of this URL http://repo.apache.org/org/apache/commons/nightly/alpha/1.0/foo.jar * Projet commons, version Nightly 1.0

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-15 Thread Nick Chalko
Nick Chalko wrote: Tim Anderson wrote: The URI isn't valid, according to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ASFRepository/CommonBuildVersio nSpecifier -Tim Try this one http://repo.apache.org/org/apache/commons/alpha/1.0/foo.jar * Projet commons, version 1.0 alpha * Pro

Re: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-15 Thread Nick Chalko
Tim Anderson wrote: The URI isn't valid, according to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ASFRepository/CommonBuildVersio nSpecifier -Tim Try this one http://repo.apache.org/org/apache/commons/alpha/1.0/foo.jar * Projet commons, version 1.0 alpha * Project commons-alpha,

RE: Use of '/' in ???-specifier's

2003-11-15 Thread Tim Anderson
> From: Nick Chalko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Given this spec > > repository-uri = access-specifier "/" product-specifier "/" >version-specifier "/" artifact-specifier > > > What is the version of this URL > http://repo.apache.org/org/apache/commons/nightly/alpha/1.0/foo.jar