[sage-devel] Re: Call for vote: remove MoinMoin?

2012-03-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:34:12 AM UTC-7, leif wrote: On 27 Mrz., 19:19, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 3/27/12 12:10 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: This topic has been brought up here before as side notes in various threads, but I'd like to discuss it more

[sage-devel] Re: Depreciated is_AlgebraElement function

2012-03-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, March 26, 2012 9:32:45 AM UTC-7, Keshav Kini wrote: Simon King writes: sage: is_Integer(int(5)) False sage: is_Integer(5/1) False sage: int(5) in ZZ True sage: 5/1 in ZZ True Huh. It seems like this is the opposite of what you'd expect, doesn't it?

Re: [sage-devel] Upgrading to latest development release

2012-03-23 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, March 23, 2012 2:04:32 PM UTC-7, Starx wrote: So I'm trying to upgrade my beta7 to beta9. Upgrading from one beta release to another is not supported, so this is not likely to work. (If you are curious about why, then search through sage-devel for other threads on upgrading.)

Re: [sage-devel] Include ../../../../whatever -- uh?

2012-03-23 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, March 23, 2012 2:07:21 PM UTC-7, Snark wrote: Le jeudi 22 mars, Julien Puydt a écrit: Le jeudi 22 mars, William Stein a écrit: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Hi, yesterday I noticed that there are many places in sage's sources (I only

[sage-devel] Re: Include ../../../../whatever -- uh?

2012-03-23 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, March 23, 2012 4:39:02 PM UTC-7, leif wrote: On 24 Mrz., 00:25, leif not.rea...@online.de wrote: On 23 Mrz., 23:18, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: On 2012-03-23 22:58, leif wrote: P.S.: What makes *me* wonder since years btw. is the bizarre python

[sage-devel] the directory SAGE_ROOT/ipython/

2012-03-21 Thread John H Palmieri
Does anyone use the files in the directory SAGE_ROOT/ipython? Would you object if they were moved elsewhere in the Sage distribution, and if some of the files were modified or deleted? (In particular, ipythonrc-scipy might not be long for this world, if I have anything to do with it.) Newer

Re: [sage-devel] Which spkg provided which file?

2012-03-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:33:39 PM UTC-7, Snark wrote: Le mercredi 21 mars, William Stein a écrit: On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Julien Puydt wrote: Hi, how can I know which spkg provided a file in sage? Let's say for example (from sage-4.8) :

[sage-devel] Re: Upgrading trac

2012-03-20 Thread John H Palmieri
I have no idea if this is a new issue, but the attachments for http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12684 don't view quite correctly: there are some lines at the end of the patch which move files around, and those are not visible when you view the attachment. (This may be just the same as

[sage-devel] Re: Docbuild options for sage -docbuild and make doc

2012-03-15 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:28:02 PM UTC-7, Nicolas M. Thiéry wrote: Dear Sage doc compilation fans, Currently, make doc calls sage -docbuild with the option --no-pdf-links. I don't have an opinion about this specific option, but a very anoying consequence is that if you do a

[sage-devel] Re: Adding GCC and MPC as standard packages

2012-03-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:11:00 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Monday, 12 March 2012 06:15:35 UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: I have made a spkg for GCC (GNU compiler collection) version 4.6.3 with compilers for C, C++ and Fortran, see Trac #12369. The GCC spkg depends on an MPC

[sage-devel] Re: Adding GCC and MPC as standard packages

2012-03-12 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:15:35 PM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: What are your +1/-1 to making GCC and MPC standard packages? +1 (especially since it allows us to build Sage on Lion without making other compromises) -- John -- To post to this group, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Patchbot reporting a doctest failure that I can't reproduce

2012-03-11 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:46:55 PM UTC-7, Starx wrote: The patchbot is reporting a doctest failure in a patch of mine: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12630#comment:10 The failure itself is completely benign, a + b is being returned when b + a is expected, but the addition is

[sage-devel] Re: OSX10.7 (Lion)'s blas is REALLY BUGGY: Fwd: cvxopt on MacOSX 10.7

2012-03-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:49:12 PM UTC-8, Dima Pasechnik wrote: It turns out that here Apple is not doing anything wrong. (after having a discussion here: https://discussions.apple.com/message/17795537) It's improper use of BLAS by CVXOPT people that triggers errors. The C code in

[sage-devel] Re: Version bumping of extcode and sage_scripts

2012-03-06 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:35:45 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: It seems odd to me that the extcode and sage_scripts spkgs have their version bumped with every sage release. sage_scripts contains the version info for sage (in sage-banner), but IMO this is something that should be stored

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Natural language interface to sage

2012-02-29 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 3:01:46 PM UTC-8, Snark wrote: Le mercredi 29 février, William Stein a écrit: (1) when you want to apply a theorem, do you just check for the hypotheses then go on, or do you re-do the proof down from the axioms? Neither. This is a false analogy.

[sage-devel] Re: Unifying Command line options

2012-02-28 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:45:08 PM UTC-8, Keshav Kini wrote: William Stein writes: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: It's not actually a fallback for b), though. If a file does exist with the same name as a subcommand, b) makes it impossible to use that

[sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:00:01 PM UTC-8, entropy wrote: John, Just to confirm, did this build work for you on Lion 10.7.2, with Xcode 4.3, and gcc version 4.2.1 (LLVM build 2336.9.00)? I'm using Lion 10.7.3, not 10.7.2. I agree with the gcc version: $ gcc --version

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:49:23 PM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2012-02-19 06:53, John H Palmieri wrote: On the plus side, on the laptop where I had problems before, Sage built and passed all doctests using the default compiler: You mean 5.0.beta4 worked or do you mean my 5.0

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, February 20, 2012 7:53:05 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: On Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:49:23 PM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2012-02-19 06:53, John H Palmieri wrote: On the plus side, on the laptop where I had problems before, Sage built and passed all doctests using

Re: [sage-devel] sage, gentoo-prefix lmonade was: log messages

2012-02-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, February 20, 2012 2:43:29 PM UTC-8, Benjamin Jones wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, François Bissey wrote: snip There are efforts to parallelize the building of the doc and I would say that if it gets merged we may very well put the doc back into sage and just build

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-18 Thread John H Palmieri
We have another small problem with Lion. I just wiped my hard drive and reinstalled Lion (because of some non-Sage related issues). Then I reinstalled Xcode: the newly released version 4.3. Two issues: command-line tools are no longer installed by default, so you have to install gcc, clang,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-18 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:12:19 PM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: We have another small problem with Lion. I just wiped my hard drive and reinstalled Lion (because of some non-Sage related issues). Then I reinstalled Xcode: the newly released version 4.3. Two issues: command-line

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:21:40 PM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:59:16 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:50:52 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: John, entropy, Could you try the following: $ rm spkg/logs/gcc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-15 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:50:52 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: John, entropy, Could you try the following: $ rm spkg/logs/gcc-4.6.2.log $ MAKE=make -j1 SAGE_CHECK=yes CFLAGS=-O0 ./sage -f spkg/standard/gcc-4.6.2.spkg If it fails, send me spkg/logs/gcc-4.6.2.log It failed. Log:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-15 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:59:16 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:50:52 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: John, entropy, Could you try the following: $ rm spkg/logs/gcc-4.6.2.log $ MAKE=make -j1 SAGE_CHECK=yes CFLAGS=-O0 ./sage -f spkg/standard/gcc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-14 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, February 13, 2012 11:51:50 PM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2012-02-13 19:05, John H Palmieri wrote: I posted the same failure two days ago to the relevant trac ticket, http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12369. Not the same failure, your failure on #12369

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-14 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:14:13 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 14:57, entropy wrote: Darn, flopped again. The mpir package could not find a working compiler. Kind of ironic, since this whole thread has been about building gcc-4.6.2. :) From the log, it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, February 13, 2012 9:55:43 AM UTC-8, William wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM, entropy wrote: Hi all, This is wonderful news. So great, that I tried to compile sage-5.0beta3 on my OS X 10.7.2 laptop. Sadly, it threw an error while attempting to compile gcc4.6.2.

Re: [sage-devel] doctest weirdness

2012-02-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, February 13, 2012 11:16:54 AM UTC-8, William wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 02/13/12 13:51, Ryan wrote: #this test case will pass def TestCase1(): r''' Examples:: sage: ascii()

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage works on OS X 10.7!

2012-02-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, February 13, 2012 11:49:29 AM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote: On Monday, February 13, 2012 10:05:56 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: Or is there something about the laptop architecture which is causing the problem? It would be useful if people would post the output of uname

[sage-devel] Re: p_group_cohomology optional spkg does not install in sagenb.org

2012-02-11 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:34:21 AM UTC-8, jason wrote: On 2/11/12 1:27 PM, Justin C. Walker wrote: Hi, Jason, On Feb 11, 2012, at 06:08 , Jason Grout wrote: I'm upgrading sagenb.org to sage 4.8 and I get some errors when trying to install the p_group_cohomology package. If

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC 2012

2012-02-11 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:39:32 PM UTC-8, Michael Orlitzky wrote: I've started this: http://wiki.sagemath.org/PiecewiseSymbolicSEP It's basically a brain dump at this point, but I can go back and clean up specific ideas now with less overhead. I've also added a link and a few

[sage-devel] Re: Dealing with different signs in doctest output?

2012-02-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:49:36 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: What is the correct way to fix the following doctest failure? Here, G is the result of a gram_schmidt() computation, hence the sign shouldn't matter mathematically. sage -t -force_lib devel/sage/sage/matrix/matrix2.pyx

[sage-devel] Re: spkg dependency checking

2012-02-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, February 7, 2012 3:06:14 PM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: I came across the following in the Sage Developer guide: - If your package depends on another package, say boehmgc, then you should check that this other package has been installed. Your ``spkg-install``

[sage-devel] use ./configure; make for Sage?

2012-02-05 Thread John H Palmieri
Various aspects of building Sage might be cleaner if we used autoconf: ./configure OPTIONS make OPTIONS could include a location to install Sage, various flags for building ATLAS, and other options which we currently control by setting environment variables. For typical users, we should

[sage-devel] Re: Funding for you to come work on Sage

2012-02-05 Thread John H Palmieri
Are these workshops all going to be in Seattle? -- John -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-03 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, February 3, 2012 8:33:53 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Just to clarify, does gcc-4.2 *not* come with the latex XCode 4.x, but it came with earlier XCode 4.x's?I have gcc-4.2 on my laptop, and I've never installed anything but XCode 4.x on it. Just curious. I think that it came

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01:41 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:26 AM, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [sage-devel] Unifying Command line options

2012-01-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, January 27, 2012 2:19:59 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2012-01-27 11:17, David Roe wrote: Why? So that things like sage -i can work without python? Exactly. And also for speed issues, as William brought up a year or two ago when we discussed this sort of thing. If you

[sage-devel] Re: spkg/base gone missing.

2012-01-22 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:10:17 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Hi, I wanted to try out #3052, which is Kini's code for converting .hg repos to JSON and back. So I took a Sage-4.8 binary, and started looking for his code. I just wanted to run the script on a sample .hg repo, etc. The

[sage-devel] Re: tracking down sphinx errors

2012-01-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, January 21, 2012 8:28:35 AM UTC-8, jason wrote: I'm trying to track down this error: /Users/grout/sage-trees/sage-5.0.prealpha1/devel/sagenb-git/sagenb/notebook/cell.py:docstring of sagenb.notebook.cell.Cell:4: WARNING: Block quote ends without a blank line; unexpected

[sage-devel] Re: tracking down sphinx errors

2012-01-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, January 21, 2012 12:01:07 PM UTC-8, jason wrote: It turns out that the error is indeed in a completely different function. One of the functions has a docstring that has this line: sage: W.edit_save('foo\n{{{\n2+3\n///\n5\n}}}bar\n{{{\n2+8\n///\n10\n}}}')

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Mathjax needs review

2012-01-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:37:00 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Hi, Regarding jsmath and mathjax... It seems like we have the issues worked out for the Sage notebook. Yeah, and thanks to Jason, David, etc., for their persistence. I was just browsing mathoverflow, e.g., [1], and noticed

[sage-devel] Re: Checking all but Python self-tests

2012-01-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:06:18 AM UTC-8, kcrisman wrote: Here is a probably dumb question. Currently (as far as I am aware), most spkgs should pass with SAGE_CHECK set, though it does depend on the platform and specific machine. Python is somewhat notorious for not doing so.

[sage-devel] Re: Checking all but Python self-tests

2012-01-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:19:03 AM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote: I consider it a bug that Python's testsuite fails on many systems even though the resulting python install is perfectly usable for our purposes. The Python spkg-check should be changed to not call the whole python

[sage-devel] Re: Checking all but Python self-tests

2012-01-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:37 AM UTC-8, kcrisman wrote: On Jan 17, 1:15 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:06:18 AM UTC-8, kcrisman wrote: Here is a probably dumb question. Currently (as far as I am aware), most spkgs

[sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, January 16, 2012 7:42:49 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Hi, A major blocker for Sage-5.0 is supporting OS X (version 10.7 -- the version that has been out for months now). Fortunately, it is now relatively easy to build sage-5.0.beta1 on OS X 10.7 with XCode 4.x, and have it start

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Proposal: Remove GNUTLS from Sage.

2012-01-14 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:07:08 AM UTC-8, William wrote: On Jan 14, 2012 9:00 AM, Dr David Kirkby drki...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 9, 4:39 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Very few people actually use the notebook in secure=True mode. For those that do, I think

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: problems with HasseDiagram and rank

2012-01-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, January 13, 2012 2:07:00 PM UTC-8, Raymond N. Greenwell wrote: Hello! I posted this on sage-support, but I should have posted it here. I tried using the HasseDiagram and rank features of Sage as described on

[sage-devel] Re: Ubuntu 11.10 testers needed

2012-01-05 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:21:37 PM UTC-8, john.hoebing wrote: On Jan 5, 10:22 am, John Cremona john.c...@gmail.com wrote: Will this procedure work? Surely ./sage -i will not work with a half-built system? Well, I am trying... No that won't work, as some others have already

[sage-devel] Re: Unofficial release sage-5.0.prealpha0

2012-01-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, January 1, 2012 7:18:20 AM UTC-8, daveloeffler wrote: I get an error when doing a parallel build with SAGE_CHECK set. See below for the relevant part of the output. The problem seems to be that the M4RIE test suite requires NTL and Givaro to have already been built, but that

[sage-devel] Re: Unofficial release sage-5.0.prealpha0

2012-01-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, January 1, 2012 8:52:24 AM UTC-8, daveloeffler wrote: Here's *yet another* SAGE_CHECK issue. The sagetex package doesn't work: [snip] Output written on example.dvi (7 pages, 23380 bytes). Transcript written on example.log. Traceback (most recent call last): File

[sage-combinat-devel] Re: dot2tex, combinat

2011-12-24 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, December 23, 2011 4:54:53 PM UTC-8, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: I copied the latest version of TikZ / PGF (using a shared folder) to the VM and installed it. I was able to compile the .tex file using the VM's latex compiler and view the output .pdf from my host OS (Windows

Re: [sage-devel] Backward-uncompatible packages

2011-12-24 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, December 24, 2011 8:08:19 AM UTC-8, John Cremona wrote: This is similar to the situation with the optional elliptic curve database, since the default database is changed as of 4.8 (uses a different database engine) so the optional spkg has also been updated, so we have one

Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: dot2tex, combinat

2011-12-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:48:00 AM UTC-8, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:55:11AM +, Sagan, Bruce wrote: Formidable! This installed dot2tex. Thanks so much!! One last question. When I went back to the notebook and ran a view command (I just copied the

Re: [sage-devel] Why use cp for patching

2011-12-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:00:15 PM UTC-8, Burcin Erocal wrote: Hi Maarten, On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:28:47 -0800 (PST) Maarten Derickx m.derick...@gmail.com wrote: I was merging my new ipython spkg wich needed review for some time already at

[sage-devel] Re: Mathematica/Magma/Sage dictionaries ?

2011-12-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:51:19 PM UTC-8, Nathann Cohen wrote: Hello everybody !!! I have been contacted by an enlightened colleague who planned to teach a bit of Sage at the local university, instead of Magma and Mathematica as it was formerly done. Now, enthusiasm is a wonderful

[sage-devel] Re: Mathematica/Magma/Sage dictionaries ?

2011-12-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:51:19 PM UTC-8, Nathann Cohen wrote: Hello everybody !!! I have been contacted by an enlightened colleague who planned to teach a bit of Sage at the local university, instead of Magma and Mathematica as it was formerly done. Now, enthusiasm is a wonderful

[sage-devel] Re: Converting a symbolic expression to python code

2011-12-12 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, December 12, 2011 5:13:00 PM UTC-8, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Is there an easy way to print a symbolic expression so that it's valid python code? E.g. 2*x^2 -- QQ(2) * x**QQ(2) How about sage: preparse('2*x^2') 'Integer(2)*x**Integer(2)' -- John -- To post to

Re: [sage-devel] News about the ARM port

2011-12-03 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, December 3, 2011 10:45:10 AM UTC-8, Snark wrote: Le 03/12/2011 19:27, William Stein a �crit : Thanks for the updated ticket. I will probably just use the ubuntu atlas binary instead of building atlas, to avoid trouble with that. How does one do that for atlas? For other

Re: [sage-devel] Disallowing 4.x - 5.x upgrades

2011-12-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, December 2, 2011 4:43:06 PM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2011-12-03 01:27, Francois Bissey wrote: Apart from the python upgrade which will require re-compilation of everything python with the exception of scons (because it doesn't install anything under libpython2{6,7})

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu

2011-11-28 Thread John H Palmieri
Try searching the group sage-devel (and possibly sage-release) for readline configuring R. The following thread might be useful, for example: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/sage-devel/readline$20configuring$20r/sage-devel/B7y-ntx13Os/m2kJoygRxMYJ -- John -- To post to this

[sage-devel] Re: Remove $SAGE_ROOT from $PATH, rename sage-sage to sage

2011-11-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, November 26, 2011 2:30:06 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Proposal: 1) In sage-env, do not add $SAGE_ROOT to the $PATH. 2) Rename local/bin/sage-sage to local/bin/sage Reason: The python 2.7.2 package checks whether hg is available and runs hg during the build process.

[sage-devel] Re: failing to build 4.7.2 on osx

2011-11-22 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:31:29 AM UTC-8, Christian Stump wrote: Building Sage on OS X Lion is not yet supported; nobody has yet built one that 100% works and passes all tests, though we're close. Seehttp:// trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11881 I see, thanks for the reply!

[sage-devel] Re: tentative PIL-1.1.7.p0.spkg

2011-11-22 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:42:41 PM UTC-8, Bill Janssen wrote: You should build your new spkg by starting with the old one Except that the old one doesn't exist -- this is pil-1.1.7.p0, not pil-1.1.6.p5. Still not sure how to go about this -- an example (perhaps it's in the docs)

[sage-devel] Re: tentative PIL-1.1.7.p0.spkg

2011-11-22 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, November 22, 2011 3:45:28 PM UTC-8, Bill Janssen wrote: On Nov 22, 12:53 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: So pil-1.1.6.p5 *is* the old one. pil-1.1.6.p4 is the old one. Remove the src directory from that one, replacing it with the new source. Modify any

[sage-devel] Re: tentative PIL-1.1.7.p0.spkg

2011-11-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:17:45 PM UTC-8, Bill Janssen wrote: I've put up my first try at a PIL 1.1.7 spkg at http://uplib.parc.com/ misc/pil-1.1.7.p0.spkg http://uplib.parc.com/misc/pil-1.1.7.p0.spkg. Please tell me what I did wrong :-). I would open up a ticket, making sure to

[sage-devel] Re: tentative PIL-1.1.7.p0.spkg

2011-11-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:49:39 PM UTC-8, Bill Janssen wrote: Some issues with this spkg: - The mercurial repository is completely missing. Yes, it's not a patch to the Sage sources, so there's no Mercurial stuff as there would be if it were. Every spkg should contain a

[sage-devel] Re: sagetex example.tex file instructions

2011-11-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 6:07:15 AM UTC-8, Jan Groenewald wrote: Hi 0 jan@muizenberg:/var/autofs/misc/home/jan$grep example.sage /usr/local/src/sage-4.7.2/local/share/texmf/tex/generic/sagetex/example.tex % (pdf)latex example.tex; sage example.sage; pdflatex example.tex when

Re: [sage-devel] Testing on OS X 10.7

2011-11-15 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:15:39 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2011-11-15 11:06, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: To somebody with access to a OS X 10.7 machine: please test whether the spkg http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/jdemeyer/spkg/ecl-11.1.2.cvs2007.p0.spkg Doesn't

[sage-devel] Re: Encoding of .py files

2011-11-12 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, November 11, 2011 10:16:16 AM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Is there a requirement that all Sage .py files should be ASCII or is UTF8 also accepted? It seems that Sphinx 1.1.2 (#10620) cares more about this: at #10112 there is a patch with a 0xd0 byte (which is neither ASCII

Re: [sage-devel] Re: when are sage-sage.py and sage-sagex called

2011-11-12 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:29:29 PM UTC-8, François wrote: On Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:21:07 PM UTC-8, François wrote: Hi, I spotted those two files and I am wondering what they are used for. sage-sage.py looks like a rewrite of sage-sage in python, is it ever

[sage-devel] Re: Removing doc dependency from test targets

2011-11-11 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, November 11, 2011 2:45:08 PM UTC-8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: I am considering removing the doc dependency from the test targets (like ptestlong). I am regularly annoyed by the long time it takes to rebuild the docs How about reviewing #6495 instead? It cuts down the time to

[sage-devel] Re: interact bug + non interactive

2011-11-09 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, November 9, 2011 10:44:45 AM UTC-8, fhivert wrote: Hi there, I've a problem with interact together with a request: I'd like to write a function which return some interact, for example: def make_interact(i): def _(choice=[x%i%u for u in range(i)]): print

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The sage -sh shell prompt: any objections to shortening it?

2011-11-05 Thread John H Palmieri
Well, as I mentioned above, the current plan in #11790 is, among other things, to source a file ~/.sage/.sagerc (if it exists), so maybe you can add code to set your prompt there. -- John -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group,

[sage-devel] Re: hawk is back up

2011-11-04 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, October 28, 2011 3:22:04 PM UTC-7, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: My Opensolaris box hawk is back up. Those who have accounts, and the buildbot, can use it again. Hi Dave, Thanks; it's great to have a (fast) OpenSolaris machine to test on. -- John -- To post to this group, send

Re: [sage-devel] build spkg's in parallel by default?

2011-11-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:33:15 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: Important question: If I set MAKE=make -j6 could it be that I get 36 processes in a parallel build? 6 packages in parallel and 6 jobs per package? Or has this been taken care of? The GNU make man page says that it

[sage-devel] Re: The sage -sh shell prompt: any objections to shortening it?

2011-11-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, November 1, 2011 5:07:47 PM UTC-7, Keshav Kini wrote: That's what I thought too, but upon testing it seems that PS1 is somehow special in this regard: That's what I discovered, too. The current idea (at #11790) is that you can set a new environment variable, SAGE_SHPROMPT,

[sage-devel] The sage -sh shell prompt: any objections to shortening it?

2011-10-31 Thread John H Palmieri
A quick survey for people who use sage -sh: - Do you find the current multiline shell prompt useful? - Would you prefer that the prompt is shorter, and in particular, a single line? At the moment, when you run sage -sh, it says Starting subshell with Sage environment variables set. Be

[sage-devel] Re: sage days in January?

2011-10-28 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, October 28, 2011 1:42:25 PM UTC-7, kcrisman wrote: On Oct 28, 3:40 pm, Jason Grout jason...@creativetrax.com wrote: For the last few years, we've had a Sage Days following the AMS/MAA Joint Meetings. Are we planning on that again this January? The Joint Meetings are Jan

[sage-devel] build spkg's in parallel by default?

2011-10-27 Thread John H Palmieri
The option to build spkg's in Sage in parallel has been available for quite a while now, but it has to be enabled by setting the shell variable SAGE_PARALLEL_SPKG_BUILD equal to yes. Should we change the default, building in parallel unless this variable is explicitly set to no (or n)? I

[sage-devel] Re: build spkg's in parallel by default?

2011-10-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:29:37 AM UTC-7, kcrisman wrote: On Oct 27, 1:14 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: The option to build spkg's in Sage in parallel has been available for quite a while now, but it has to be enabled by setting the shell variable

Re: [sage-devel] build spkg's in parallel by default?

2011-10-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:43:56 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2011-10-27 19:14, John H Palmieri wrote: The option to build spkg's in Sage in parallel has been available for quite a while now, but it has to be enabled by setting the shell variable SAGE_PARALLEL_SPKG_BUILD

[sage-devel] Re: build spkg's in parallel by default?

2011-10-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:28:00 PM UTC-7, kcrisman wrote: As it turns out, trying the wrong behavior (make -j2 with parallel spkgs) on one of my one processor machines does lead to unusual build failures which seem to have to do with waiting for jobs. And then it finishes the next

[sage-devel] Re: build spkg's in parallel by default?

2011-10-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, leif wrote: P.S.: Incidentally I also posted about parallel make on sage-support today: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/msg/a17f6e561583e1a5 http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/msg/f4d0c2e3815f1157 Yes, hence my

[sage-devel] Re: build spkg's in parallel by default?

2011-10-27 Thread John H Palmieri
Okay, a patch is up. See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11959 If people have objections to the whole plan, please keep them here. If you have issues with the particular implementation, let's discuss that on the ticket. -- John -- To post to this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: Upgrading from sage-4.7 to sage-4.7.1

2011-10-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:01:46 PM UTC-7, leif wrote: On 26 Okt., 17:15, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried to upgrade from sage-4.7 to sage-4.7.1 on I don't recall where and when, but we already had some discussion on that, e.g. that files unknown to

[sage-devel] Re: Upgrading from sage-4.7 to sage-4.7.1

2011-10-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:47:03 PM UTC-7, leif wrote: I'll perhaps tweak sage-sage and sage-update a little; changing all sage*.spkg's spkg-install files is another story. Feel free to modify the spkg-install file for the root repo, also, to deal with the specific hg issue

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on lion

2011-10-25 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:52:24 PM UTC-7, Andrew Mathas wrote: Hi All, Is there an educated guess as to when/if sage will be ported to lion? I foolishly upgraded when it came out and have been unable to use sage since... There is a trac ticket about this on which there has been

[sage-devel] building Sage on Lion

2011-09-30 Thread John H Palmieri
Are there *any* tickets dealing with building Sage on Lion? Don't we need to get working on this pretty seriously? I've heard rumors of possible fixes lurking, but it's frustrating that nothing is publicly available. I just opened http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11881, a meta-ticket

[sage-devel] Re: can't name a script new.sage?

2011-09-28 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:55:32 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: Should sage-preparse name the preparsed file something safer, in order to prevent name clashes like this? For example, turn FILE.sage into FILE_preparsed.py? Following up to myself: the script sage-sage, which

[sage-devel] Re: ImportError: dlopen

2011-09-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, September 26, 2011 9:28:24 AM UTC-7, Rob Gross wrote: Thanks for any more ideas. This is a busy week for me, but I'll try to test any suggestions as soon as they come in. Have you tried Dima's suggestion? Just to be safe, I would start with a fresh download of the Sage

Re: [sage-devel] Re: can't name a script new.sage?

2011-09-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:26:39 AM UTC-7, Felix Salfelder wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 09:11:57AM -0700, Tom Boothby wrote: I capitulate on the hidden file idea, in favor of putting 'em in ~/.sage/ though one might note that we're exchanging one hidden file for another ;) i

[sage-devel] can't name a script new.sage?

2011-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
If I create a simple Sage script and call it script.sage, then running sage script.sage works fine. But if I call it new.sage, it doesn't. Why? Script: def f(i): return i f(10) Error: Traceback (most recent call last): File new.py, line 2, in module from

[sage-devel] Re: can't name a script new.sage?

2011-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:07:10 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: If I create a simple Sage script and call it script.sage, then running sage script.sage works fine. But if I call it new.sage, it doesn't. Why? [snip] from twisted.python import util, context, reflect

[sage-devel] Re: can't name a script new.sage?

2011-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
By the way, Volker, this is not fixed by http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11819, since 'new' is imported by twisted, not just by the Sage library. -- John -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: can't name a script new.sage?

2011-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
Salfelder fe...@salfelder.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:55:32PM -0700, John H Palmieri wrote: Should sage-preparse name the preparsed file something safer, in order to prevent name clashes like this? For example, turn FILE.sage into FILE_preparsed.py? Hi. while You

[sage-devel] Re: Testing on Solaris?

2011-09-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, September 16, 2011 2:17:17 PM UTC-7, daveloeffler wrote: Right, so now I have a skynet account, and I tried to grab a copy of Sage and build it on the |Skynet SunOS machine mark. It got as far as gnutls and then died: serv.o: In function `peer_print_info':

[sage-devel] Re: Testing on Solaris?

2011-09-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, September 16, 2011 2:17:17 PM UTC-7, daveloeffler wrote: Right, so now I have a skynet account, and I tried to grab a copy of Sage By the way, you can find tar files for several versions of Sage in /home/buildbot/build/sage/src/ on the skynet machines. -- John -- To post

<    4   5   6   7   8   9   10   11   12   13   >