Re: [sage-devel] Re: pynac-0.3.3

2015-04-08 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 05:55:27 -0700 (PDT) kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: since there seems no permanent maintainer of Pynac I propose to do the next release of Pynac. I have already transferred the source/history as planned to github at: https://github.com/rwst/pynac Ralf, this

[sage-devel] Re: coercion of objects embedded in symbolic expressions

2015-02-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 03:17:13 -0800 (PST) Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: Just to tell you what you already know, the symbolic ring is the parent of last resort if there is nothing more specific. So its to be expected that you don't have any canonical maps elsewhere. Pynac should

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Tracking Citations; How?

2014-09-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 11:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Bill Hart goodwillh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Saturday, 6 September 2014 20:34:56 UTC+2, Robert Bradshaw wrote: Note that Cython supports cProfile these days: http://docs.cython.org/src/tutorial/profiling_tutorial.html However, that won't help

[sage-devel] Re: cgal spkg?

2014-08-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Marc, I'm copying sage-devel where more experienced people can help. On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:42:45 +0200 Marc Masdeu marc.mas...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Burcin, I saw you had made a spkg for the CGAL libraries. I would like to resuscitate this code and adapt it to CGAL 4.0 if possible. Do

Re: [sage-devel] installing optional packages requires running sage -b

2014-08-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 06:57:20 -0700 William A Stein wst...@uw.edu wrote: snip This is absolutely not how Sage should behave. The fixes I can think of: (1) Run sage -b as part of installing any package that requires it for the install to finish. Your argument not to run sage -b isn't

Re: [sage-devel] Lattices?

2014-03-13 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Martin, On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 13:56:41 + Martin Albrecht martinralbre...@googlemail.com wrote: what happened to the Sage 2012 GSoC project on lattices described here: http://gsoc-sage-lattices.blogspot.co.uk/ It doesn't seem to have been merged (?) I could use it to give my

Re: [sage-devel] Re: canonical review/upgrade procedure

2014-03-12 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 04:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:52:06 AM UTC+1, Ralf Stephan wrote: Hello, I'm the annoying person digging up old tickets. Which is much appreciated! +1. Many thanks for finally getting all those

[sage-devel] Google Summer of Code Projects - please advertise

2014-03-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, this year Sage [1] and lmonade [2] are mentoring organizations for the Google Summer of Code [3] again. [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/sagemath [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/lmonade [3]

[sage-devel] GSoC projects

2014-01-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, the application period for the Google Summer of Code starts next week. If we want to apply, we should have a project ideas list ready for review by Google by February 14th. Here is last year's list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ipzvwbhfujaubDe0QVO-V9JmmRcLZvitaeXh4r2WNqA/pub Harald

Re: [sage-devel] QQ multivariate factorization, new(?) errors

2013-10-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Jori, On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:29:45 +0300 (EEST) Jori Mantysalo jori.mantys...@uta.fi wrote: I just make a small test: P.a,b,c,d=QQ[] for i in range(1,10): p1=ZZ.random_element(1,5)*P.random_element() p2=ZZ.random_element(1,5)*P.random_element()

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The results of some integration test.

2013-09-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Fredrik Johansson fredrik.johans...@gmail.com wrote: Curious that no one seems to have attempted to port Rubi to Sage yet! Perhaps a possible project for next year's GSoC? This might be an interesting exercise to test our symbolics and pattern

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Answers to queries about flooved.com, and some questions as well...

2013-09-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 11:31:43 -0500 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 9/3/13 11:26 AM, Jason Grout wrote: And a collaborative annotation system for books is certainly something interesting to see. *Especially* if there is an easy way to export the annotations out of the

[sage-devel] default component owners on trac

2013-08-08 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, is there a way to see the default owners assigned to trac components? I just noticed that I am not assigned to new symbolics tickets any more. I can't decide yet if that's good or bad yet. Was there a reason behind this change? Cheers, Burcin -- You received this message because you are

Re: [sage-devel] spkg statistics

2013-07-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:23:51 +0200 Hikari Boulders hikari.bould...@gmail.com wrote: about 4ti2: is there some master-plan to make sage more modular or smaller? Unfortunately, no. lmonade takes a step in this direction by making the package system more flexible: http://www.lmona.de In the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: _cleanup method in DifferentialForms class

2013-07-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:49:16 -0700 (PDT) vdelecroix 20100.delecr...@gmail.com wrote: If the differential forms are somewhat immutable we may also save the result of is_zero once for all. Why do not make is_zero a cached_method of symbolic expressions ? Do you mean wrapping

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sqrt simplification

2013-06-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 13:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Eric Gourgoulhon egourgoul...@gmail.com wrote: Meanwhile, I've written the following workaround in python: basically, it scans all the sqrt's in a given symbolic expression, send them to radcan, takes the absolute value of the output and then calls

Re: [sage-devel] Jenks Prize

2013-06-29 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 09:48:55 -0700 William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: According to Victor Miller [1], Sage one the Jenks Prize [2] last night. Congrats to us Sage developers! [1] https://plus.google.com/112503503275509870006/posts [2] http://www.sigsam.org/awards/jenks/awardees/

Re: [sage-devel] Re: _cleanup method in DifferentialForms class

2013-06-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Timo Kluck tkl...@gmail.com wrote: I think most time is spend in the is_zero() method for a symbolic expression, and that the reassignments you refer to are largely irrelevant. The thing is that it can cost a lot of time to decide whether, for example

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, here is an official announcement for the swMATH project. Cheers, Burcin Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:00:29 +0200 From: Gert-Martin Greuel gre...@mathematik.uni-kl.de Subject: swMATH Dear all, I would like you to inform you about a new service on mathematical

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Cheers, Burcin On 17 June 2013 19:59, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote: Hi, here is an official announcement for the swMATH project. Cheers, Burcin Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:00:29 +0200 From: Gert-Martin Greuel gre...@mathematik.uni-kl.de Subject

Re: [sage-devel] OT: SWMATH

2013-06-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Michael, On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 03:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Michael Brickenstein brickenst...@mfo.de wrote: Yes, and it even includes Sage ;-). Well, at the moment it's at position 8 in total number of citations which is not bad, considering it's age. How do you see this on the current swmath.org

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 3 GSoC projects for Sage

2013-05-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
http://www.phas.ubc.ca/%7Eeviatarb/ – University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada (Mentor: Flavia Stan, Backup: Burcin Erocal) Sage interfaces with multiple third-party libraries, such as MPFR, GSL, GP/PARI, mpmath, and Maxima, for numerical evaluation of special functions

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:17:43 + (UTC) Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-01-17, Robert Bradshaw rober...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-01-16, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:31:41 + (UTC) Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-01-17, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote: On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:17:43 + (UTC) Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: [...] This still looks like an ugly hack. Shouldn't we rather use

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:49:22 -0800 (PST) Timo Kluck tkl...@gmail.com wrote: Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 04:17:48 UTC+1 schreef Michael Orlitzky het volgende: Gentoo: emerge sage Fedora: yum install sage Debian: apt-get install sage Ubuntu: apt-get install sage Mac:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:43:15 +0100 Julien Puydt julien.pu...@laposte.net wrote: Le 15/01/2013 23:28, Volker Braun a écrit : The specialist mathematical libraries, by contrast, don't get much exposure. And even if somebody packaged them then generally in useless form. E.g. Fedora ships

[sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-15 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:27:38 -0500 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso jord...@octave.org wrote: Actually, I don't see what ditching hg has anything to do with the real meat of the actual problem, fixing the build system. +1000 I don't recall the design of the new development model, directory structure

[sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-15 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:32:29 -0800 (PST) Timo Kluck tkl...@gmail.com wrote: Op dinsdag 15 januari 2013 17:01:09 UTC+1 schreef Burcin Erocal het volgende: Why don't we discuss the solutions to these problems separately and put them into action? - Development model: I like

Re: [sage-devel] Re: git integration repository, please test

2013-01-15 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:44:13 -0800 R. Andrew Ohana andrew.oh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote: Keshav, Jordi and many others have pointed these out before, but our main problem seems to be: - we are not really using a DVCS

Re: [sage-devel] Re: About log and ln. Free fight.

2013-01-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:15:45 +0800 P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/10/2013 10:09 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: H Yep, log2 and log10 sound good indeed ! So what do we do, in the end ? ln(e) = 1 log(10) = 1 log2(2) = 1 Or do we stick log(e) = ln(e) = 1 ?

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Why does - (x 100) return -x -100 ?

2013-01-09 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:16:05 +0100 Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote: This was indeed intentional at the time. When writing the new symbolics code based on pynac, William and I thought that this behavior was the one that led to least confusion. Working with expression trees that involve

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath spam

2013-01-03 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Karl-Dieter, On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 05:11:44 -0800 (PST) kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: The last few weeks there has been a marked increase in spam of the following nature on ask.sagemath Title: Irrelevant Question Content: How do I do something unrelated to Sage Answer (by different

Re: [sage-devel] Correct procedure for an experimental package

2012-12-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Charles, On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:37:33 +0100 Charles Bouillaguet charles.bouillag...@gmail.com wrote: I (amongst with others) have written a library that solves boolean equations in some way. I wanted to include it as an experimental spkg. I thus wrote a cython interface to Sage. To be

Re: [sage-devel] Correct procedure for an experimental package

2012-12-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:15:38 +0100 Charles Bouillaguet charles.bouillag...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/20/2012 01:02 PM, Burcin Erocal wrote: What should I do ? Unconditionally include the cython interface to the sage library, and mark all doctests as optional ? Can you compile the Cython

Re: [sage-devel] Correct procedure for an experimental package

2012-12-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Martin, On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:15:51 +0100 Martin Albrecht martinralbre...@googlemail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be easier to include the Cython interface in the package? AFAIK, Cython's build system improved significantly and there is no reason to use Sage's build system for a Cython

Re: [sage-devel] Correct procedure for an experimental package

2012-12-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:10:55 +0100 Charles Bouillaguet charles.bouillag...@gmail.com wrote: I am not suggesting to patch the Sage library when installing your package. You can put the interface in a separate Cython module which is built by the usual Python/Cython setup.py magic and

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Why does - (x 100) return -x -100 ?

2012-12-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:15:57 -0800 Benjamin Jones benjaminfjo...@gmail.com wrote: snip It's hard to tell from the implementation if this behavior is intentional, unintentional, or a bug. The implementation is just that multiplication maps over relational operators like ==, , =, etc. But I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What to do with research-y code.

2012-11-26 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:53:31 +0800 P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Robert's post I think the Sage community could quickly expand and there could be tens, if not hundreds, of git development branches once the switch to git occurs. It would be quite hard to keep track of all the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Indexing of symbolic expressions

2012-11-11 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:16:55 -0800 (PST) Jean-Pierre Flori jpfl...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC there was some work about this done (but not merged?). No time to search myself now, but searching trac and the pynac-devel list should give some hints, or contacting Burcin and or Florent Hivert.

Re: [sage-devel] Bug in functions sin, cos, exp...

2012-10-31 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:05:24 -0700 (PDT) kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:01:07 AM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote: On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:08:15 PM UTC, Fredrik Johansson wrote: Returning a Sage Integer would be consistent with this: I also

[sage-devel] patchbot down?

2012-09-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, the patchbot site shows a traceback suggesting the mongodb server is down. http://patchbot.sagemath.org/ Am I looking at the right page? Can somebody bring the database up? Thanks. Burcin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group.

Re: [sage-devel] Symbolic calculation

2012-09-09 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Noud, On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 04:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Noud noud.aldenho...@gmail.com wrote: Let's first take a look at this example sage: f = 2*cos(1/2) sage: f 2*cos(1/2) sage: f.n() 1.75516512378075 I would like to program something like cos(x) that behaves the same as what I showed

Re: [sage-devel] Virtual machines -- I'm curious...

2012-08-29 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:05:56 + Jan Groenewald j...@aims.ac.za wrote: Hi, On 29 August 2012 06:38, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 28 August 2012 20:55, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, See the exchange below. I'm curious if there is anybody reading

Re: [sage-devel] feature suggestion: decorator to convert python function to symbolic function

2012-08-13 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Timo, On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Timo Kluck tkl...@gmail.com wrote: I think that the distinction between def f(x): return x^2 and f(x) = x^2 is a common source of confusion, and everyone will run into it when trying to define piecewise functions. It would be

[sage-devel] Re: Problems building farey_symbol.pyx on Cygwin

2012-07-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Jean-Pierre, On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Jean-Pierre Flori jpfl...@gmail.com wrote: I'll do when I'm finished, for the moment, I'll just keep track of the progress on the wiki page. Hopefully there is only one problematic file left: expression.pyx. I've looked into this all

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Algebraic numbers in symbolic ring

2012-05-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:13:46 -0700 (PDT) mmarco mma...@unizar.es wrote: My problem was that i needed to do implicit derivation. Something like: sage: f=3*x^2*y^3-5*x*y+x^2-3*y^2+4*x-3*y+1 sage: f.diff(x) 9*x^2*y(x)^2*D[0](y)(x) + 6*x*y(x)^3 - 5*x*D[0](y)(x) - 6*y(x)*D[0](y) (x) + 2*x -

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Algebraic numbers in symbolic ring

2012-05-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 14 May 2012 04:27:15 -0700 (PDT) mmarco mma...@unizar.es wrote: I don't think the problem here is coercion, but conversion (and, mostly, the ability of the symbolic framework to handle these numbers). The symbolics framework can handle these numbers. You can use arbitrary python

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC

2012-03-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:40 -0500 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 3/27/12 4:13 AM, William Stein wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Ivan Andrusdarthand...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, when I subscribed to this list I apparently signed up for the no email option

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GSOC

2012-03-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:52:10 -0500 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 3/27/12 7:47 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: This happened to me as well. I could still change the options even though I don't use a gmail address. I fixed your membership options nevertheless. How did you

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage, gentoo-prefix lmonade was: log messages

2012-02-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:56:13 +0800 Keshav Kini keshav.k...@gmail.com wrote: Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org writes: snip Just to be clear, sage-on-gentoo itself has no goal of being a way to distribute Sage in general. It is simply a port of Sage and its SPKGs to the Gentoo package

[sage-devel] sage, gentoo-prefix lmonade was: log messages

2012-02-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Keshav, thanks for pointing out this thread. log messages is an interesting title to discuss the future directions for Sage. :) I added gentoo-science to the CC list, since that is the most likely location for sage-on-gentoo discussion and the gentoo-developers might be interested in the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: I^(0.5)

2012-02-15 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:22:32 -0800 (PST) Keshav Kini keshav.k...@gmail.com wrote: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12511 is now awaiting review. Thanks, Robert! Robert's patch now has positive review and is waiting to be merged. Thanks to Robert for the quick fix, Keshav and aapitzsch

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

2012-02-13 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:58:49 -0800 William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 02/13/12 11:18 AM, Jason Grout wrote: On 2/13/12 4:17 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Since some of packages will not have the or

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about system dependencies policy...

2012-02-13 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:34:40 + Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 02/13/12 05:19 PM, Keshav Kini wrote: If I understand correctly, William's point is that simply placing a copy of the GPL, with a version number attached or otherwise, with a or any later version included

Re: [sage-devel] use ./configure; make for Sage?

2012-02-06 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 13:23:19 -0800 (PST) John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: Various aspects of building Sage might be cleaner if we used autoconf: ./configure OPTIONS make OPTIONS could include a location to install Sage, various flags for building ATLAS, and other

Re: [sage-devel] Create numpy-functions from sage symbolic functions

2012-01-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Maximillian, On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:27:45 +0100 Maximilian Trescher faucon.emeril...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm very new to the developers list. About my background: I'm studying physics (in Berlin) and I'm using sage regularly for some physical calculations. Three days ago I wondered if

Re: [sage-devel] Two articles of interest to Sage in latest Notices

2012-01-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:26:33 -0800 (PST) kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Publishing Computational Mathematics, by Tim Daly (of Axiom, a frequent contributor on sage-devel) http://www.ams.org/notices/201202/rtx120200320p.pdf Literate programming is not just adding comments to code, but

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Question about scoping

2012-01-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:02:11 -0800 (PST) Nils Bruin nbr...@sfu.ca wrote: On Jan 17, 2:54 am, Keshav Kini keshav.k...@gmail.com wrote: [...] How does it make anything easier or clearer or better for the interactive user that var() injects things into global scope? We found ourselves trying

Re: [sage-devel] the ARM port - numerical noise

2012-01-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:21:37 -0800 (PST) Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: Once again, let me bring up the numerical noise issue on ARM. The problem is that while we pretty much narrowed it down to a particular function computing the log of the gamma-function, lgammal, in elibc, an

Re: [sage-devel] Why use cp for patching

2011-12-17 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Maarten, On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:28:47 -0800 (PST) Maarten Derickx m.derickx.stud...@gmail.com wrote: I was merging my new ipython spkg wich needed review for some time already at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11235 but now needs work because in the time that it needed review

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Indexed expressions again...

2011-12-02 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Jean-Pierre, thanks a lot for looking into this. On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:13:49 -0800 (PST) Jean-Pierre Flori jpfl...@gmail.com wrote: By the way: - I used Burcin's patch, somehow I could not use Florent's one - The patch is based on pynac-0.2.2, but applies on 0.2.3 Here is the output of

Re: [sage-devel] SAGBI bases?

2011-11-25 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Simon, On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:58:15 -0800 (PST) Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: After some serach_src, it seems to me that there are no SAGBI bases in Sage. Are there plans to add them? Is there free software (with appropriate licence) that one could build upon? If I remember

Re: [sage-devel] Indexed expressions again...

2011-11-24 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Florent, On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:20:26 +0100 Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@lri.fr wrote: I'm working on #11576 make it possible to generate sequences of variables easily. I actually need to achieve a larger goal: I need to have symbolic variables indexed by any Sage objects (eg: integers,

[sage-devel] Re: Symbolic nth_root()

2011-11-23 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:41:56 -0800 (PST) kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it exists,  The symbolic functionality in Sage is supposed to make it easy for users to define a new symbolic function at runtime, including how that function gets simplified.  This is supposed

Re: [sage-devel] Maxima vs Ginac numerator semantic

2011-11-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Florent, On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:04:13 +0100 Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@lri.fr wrote: Follow up from thread indexed symbolic variables. Do we have to call Maxima to compute the numerator of a rational fraction ? Is seems to me that Pynac/Ginac should be able to do it by

Re: [sage-devel] Symbolic nth_root()

2011-11-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:16:18 -0800 William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Jeroen Demeyer jdeme...@cage.ugent.be wrote: When searching sage-support, there are several threads about people complaining they cannot plot x^(1/3) or similar on the negative axis

Re: [sage-devel] Maxima vs Ginac numerator semantic

2011-11-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:56:51 +0100 Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@lri.fr wrote: method. Thanks to Cython, this is very easy. However, Maxima and Ginac have a different semantic for those two functions: - Maxima: Does not change the expression; if the expression is not a

Re: [sage-devel] indexed symbolic variables

2011-11-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Florent, On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:44:35 +0100 Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@lri.fr wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 03:48:10PM +0100, Burcin Erocal wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:10:54 +0100 Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@lri.fr wrote: Pynac supports indexed expressions already. It just

Re: [sage-devel] indexed symbolic variables

2011-11-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Florent, On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:29:38 +0100 Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@lri.fr wrote: moved indexed variable discussion below So I'm trying to inherits from Expression. Here is my code: from sage.symbolic.expression import Expression class IndexedVarExpr(Expression): def

Re: [sage-devel] indexed symbolic variables

2011-11-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:10:54 +0100 Florent Hivert florent.hiv...@lri.fr wrote: Pynac supports indexed expressions already. It just isn't wrapped in Sage yet. Again, there is an experimental patch available: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/burcin/indexed_expression-20110727.patch

Re: [sage-devel] deprecate symbolic function call notation

2011-11-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:00:57 -0800 William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: Twice in the last day I've hit this deprecation warning due to making a stupid typo: sage: d(N) = (1/2)*(N^2-1)(N^2-N)/(N-1) # contains stupid typo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:23:38 -0700 (PDT) leif not.rea...@online.de wrote: On 5 Nov., 21:24, Justin C. Walker jus...@mac.com wrote: On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:16 , Julien Puydt wrote: Le 05/11/2011 17:42, William Stein a écrit : What do you base this probably on?  Having started and watched

Re: [sage-devel] Re: libSingular much slower than Singular via pexpect??

2011-10-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Simon, On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 03:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: On 27 Okt., 11:39, Martin Albrecht martinralbre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 27 October 2011, Simon King wrote: Is that something to worry about? Yes! Good. I created trac ticket

Re: [sage-devel] Re: asking if Sage has support for computations with differential operators

2011-10-24 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Pablo, On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:49:39 -0300 Pablo De Napoli pden...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Pablo De Napoli pden...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need to perform computations with linear differential operators whose coefficients are polynomials in several

Re: [sage-devel] Re: asking if Sage has support for computations with differential operators

2011-10-24 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Pablo, On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:32:12 -0300 Pablo De Napoli pden...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks! I see that with this patches, it would be esasy to have also a Weyl algebra implementation in Sage Yes, writing constructors for Weyl algebras will be an easy step when it is merged. We've

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug in symbolic expression simplification?

2011-10-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: Bump. On 13 Okt., 08:43, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: ...   sage: q1 = SR(p1)   sage: q2 = SR(p2)   sage: q3 = SR(p3)   sage: q4 = SR(p4)   sage: q5 = SR(p5)   sage: q =

Re: [sage-devel] Choosing names for exponential integral type special functions

2011-10-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Benjamin Jones benjaminfjo...@gmail.com wrote: In Trac ticket #11143, there is some discussion [1] about the naming of exponential integral type special functions which are added to the global namespace there. Here are the names of the functions which

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Bug in symbolic expression simplification?

2011-10-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: On 18 Okt., 19:08, Burcin Erocal bur...@erocal.org wrote: ATM, simplify() just converts the expression to maxima and get's it back. If you change the coefficient ring for the polynomial ring to one that we

Re: [sage-devel] Re: GiNaC and Python disagree on arithmetic

2011-09-12 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Keshav, On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 03:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Keshav Kini keshav.k...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that error message is propagated from GiNaC. See line 523 of src/ginac/power.cpp in the pynac spkg. The error message is hard-coded and doesn't refer to python's eval() function. This

[sage-devel] polymake wrapper

2011-09-05 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, I just uploaded a prototype python wrapper for the new library interface to polymake on bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/burcin/pypolymake The docstrings in polymake.pyx contain examples of what is possible right now: https://bitbucket.org/burcin/pypolymake/src/tip/polymake.pyx#cl-105

[sage-devel] Sage/Singular days - Kaiserslautern - Sept 26-30

2011-07-29 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, there will be a Sage/Singular workshop in Kaiserslautern, Germany on September 26-30, 2011. http://wiki.sagemath.org/days34 The main focus of the meeting will be to improve libSingular and the Sage - Singular interface. We anticipate a coding oriented event with few talks. Newcomers,

Re: [sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Andrey, On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Andrey Novoseltsev novos...@gmail.com wrote: I have just looked over PARI citing discussion and recently I had a talk with a developer of a software package X who was concerned that inclusion of X into Sage will mean that people will stop

Re: [sage-devel] Citing used Sage components automatically

2011-07-27 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:40:02 -0700 William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Andrey Novoseltsev novos...@gmail.com wrote: I have just looked over PARI citing discussion and recently I had a talk with a developer of a software package X who was concerned that

Re: [sage-devel] Adding new unit tests

2011-07-26 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:20:35 -0400 Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 07/20/11 13:26, Burcin Erocal wrote: If you are adding tests only for integration, starting a new file sage/symbolic/tests.py might be better. ... Don't forget to mention the ticket number

[sage-devel] Fw: Save Feza Gursey Institute! -- http://savefezagursey.wordpress.com

2011-07-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, Feza Gursey Institute in Turkey, which hosted the only Sage notebook server in Turkey and contributed a Turkish translation of the notebook as well as hosting many workshops to popularize computational algebra, is being closed. There is more information below, with a (hidden) link to the

Re: [sage-devel] Importing units into module

2011-07-21 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 00:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Eviatar eviatarb...@gmail.com wrote: I am working on a physical constants module, but for whatever reason I can't get it to correctly import the units module. I import the units class using from units import units, but I get: snip

Re: [sage-devel] Adding new unit tests

2011-07-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:44:10 -0400 Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: 2. Subject to #1, where is the most appropriate place to add the tests? My first guess would be in the TESTS: section of sage/calculus/calculus.py, but there appear to be some standalone tests defined in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Matrix multiplication

2011-07-18 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Simon, On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: On 14 Jul., 16:37, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: Perhaps it would be best to study http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/burcin/dense_ctypes.patch Is there a ticket where that patch is

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Matrix multiplication

2011-07-12 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: On 12 Jul., 21:09, Martin Albrecht martinralbre...@googlemail.com wrote: If one is serious about this then one should probably use the FFLAS/FFPACK low-level routines directly (Burcin might have some old

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Iterator appears to be broken in 4.7

2011-06-19 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:08:27 -0700 Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 6/18/11 10:59 PM, Ars-Magna wrote: Hi all, I noticed that in the 4.6.2 one has the following expected behavior sage: list(x.iterator()) [] where as in 4.7 sage: list(x.iterator()) ValueError .

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Translation

2011-06-14 Thread Burcin Erocal
Merhaba Ege, On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Ege Sertçetin sertce...@itu.edu.tr wrote: I now translated it. Does the person I will show it have to be a developer of Sage? I'd be happy to review the translation. When you open a ticket [1] add me (user name: burcin) to the CC list

Re: [sage-devel] [ANN] flint 2.2 released

2011-06-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:27:47 +0100 Martin Albrecht martinralbre...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm wondering whether we should do a Sage-FLINT days thingy/coding sprint (either somewhere in the big blue room or online) to make use of all the cool new features in FLINT 2.x? Or should we wait

[sage-devel] sage days in KL in September

2011-05-30 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, we are planning to organize Sage/Singular days in Kaiserslautern some time in September. The focus will be on the development of the Sage-Singular interface, and libSingular, but anybody interested is welcome to participate. Financial support will be available, especially for the brave who

Re: [sage-devel] sage-4.7 release schedule

2011-05-16 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 15 May 2011 20:51:54 +1200 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: On the other hand singular seems to be getting a python interface it may be an idea to investigate switching to that. This interface allows calling python from the Singular interpreter, which gives

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage gentoo prefix

2011-05-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sun, 08 May 2011 07:06:03 +1200 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 21:15:11 +1200 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: Removing the sse2 use flag makes the gf2x build crash. Should NTL depend on gf2x conditionally? snip

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage gentoo prefix

2011-05-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 7 May 2011 08:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, May 7, 2011 3:57:02 PM UTC+1, Burcin Erocal wrote: Since there is already the standard CFLAGS variable I didn't implement an extra WRAPPER_CFLAGS. I want the compiler wrapper to handle

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage gentoo prefix

2011-05-10 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Wed, 11 May 2011 00:10:29 +1200 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: On Sun, 08 May 2011 07:06:03 +1200 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 21:15:11 +1200 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage gentoo prefix

2011-05-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 07 May 2011 21:15:11 +1200 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: On Thu, 05 May 2011 00:33:57 +1200 I added support for logging and put the repository on bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/burcin/sage-prefix I will be heading home now. No time to make a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage gentoo prefix

2011-05-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 07 May 2011 21:15:11 +1200 Francois Bissey francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: Removing the sse2 use flag makes the gf2x build crash. Should NTL depend on gf2x conditionally? That's not normal. Could you forward me the failing log? As for conditional dependency it used to be

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage gentoo prefix

2011-05-07 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: You shouldn't need autotools to build anything, only the autogenerated scripts that are in the source tarball. But it seems like some patches are re-running autoconf. On my Fedora 14 install it breaks early on:

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