Re: [sage-devel] SuiteSparse and sage and sparse_matrix.LU()

2024-02-05 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 05/02/2024 à 11:30, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : A good implementation of LU decomposition ought actually to take non-square matrix as input, and have the indices adjusted appropriately in the algorithm, so it's indeed a bit strange that superLU only takes square matrices (?). Perhaps it'

Re: [sage-devel] Poll: deprecate backslash operator

2023-10-08 Thread Thierry Dumont
:36 UTC-7 Thierry Dumont wrote: In "Computational Mathematics with SageMath" we have some backslash... Indeed, I found on page 43 the example: sage: 123 + \ : 345 468 which does not work presently. The first mention of "\" as an

Re: [sage-devel] Poll: deprecate backslash operator

2023-10-04 Thread Thierry Dumont
In "Computational Mathematics with SageMath" we have some backslash... So, if we deprecate it, we will have problems with the doctests asociated,... and with the book. I don't like the backslash for solving linear systems, but even Julia has adopted it, probably for Matlab users... t.d. Le

[sage-devel] Python PEP 703: no more Interpreter lock

2023-08-16 Thread Thierry Dumont
With PEP 703, Cpython will move (slowly) to a non GIL implementation, allowing true multi-threading. It will take time (-> 3.15) and will be optional at the beginning. See: https://peps.python.org/pep-0703/ Which consequences for the Python part of Sage ? Are there many parts which could be mu

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Sage 10.0.rc2 released

2023-05-07 Thread Thierry
here is no need to be malicious to run a malicious server: some of the several friendly servers that provide mathematical databases that Sage connects to might be poorly secured (e.g. some are running Python2 software on a distro that still activates TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1). Ciao, Thierry Le S

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Sage 10.0.rc0 released

2023-05-03 Thread Thierry
Hi, Le Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:43:35AM +0100, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : > Thanks, it's now https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/35571 Could this straightforward ticket be set to blocker and reviewed for the next official release ? Ciao, Thierry > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Sage 10.0.rc0 released

2023-04-26 Thread Thierry
.8.tar.gz Ciao, Thierry P.S. Note that 3.1.0. has been very recently released, however 3.0.x is LTS and will not have structural changes. Just in case, here is a verified branch : git pull https://lipn.univ-paris13.fr/~monteil/hebergement/sage/sage.git openssl.3.1.

[sage-devel] Democratic issue: rushing decisions

2022-10-05 Thread Thierry
be respected. Ciao, Thierry [1] John : "I don't see a reason to rush a vote" https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/ayOL8_bzOfk/m/q5V9ov5FAAAJ [2] Jan : "I don't think the move is so urgent though" https://groups.google.com/g/sage-devel/c/ayOL8_bzOfk/m/0Lk5pzdjB

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-13 Thread Thierry
tzkrieg, state of emergency, false dilemma, and policy of fait accompli can not be part of a healthy decision-making. Ciao, Thierry > * I'll volunteer to collate the arguments that have been made into a list > of pros and cons together with a concrete proposal, and we can send o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-09 Thread Thierry
ere ready, but the cloud hosting was enforced, and you was promoting this. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-09 Thread Thierry
sue. The rest is FUD. Ciao, Thierry On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 02:54:06AM -0700, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > I am resurrecting this thread, as in addition of trac continuing to eat up > funds (at a rate of over US$ 10 per day at the moment), it has gotten > increasingly broken. In particula

Re: [sagemath-admins] Fwd: [sage-devel] Re: incremental migration to github? [prompted by FUNDING issues!!!] + general flakiness of trac

2022-09-09 Thread Thierry
Hi, let me forward the email of Frédéric as a whole, so that the thread remains complete. - Forwarded message from Frédéric Chapoton - Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 12:15:25 +0200 From: Frédéric Chapoton To: sagemath-adm...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [sagemath-admins] Fwd: [sage-devel] Re: i

[sage-devel] source and build artifacts mixed ?

2022-08-23 Thread Thierry
Hi, i recently found that the src/sage directory was cluttered with some .c and some .so files, and that the build artifacts were back in the src/ directory. What is the rationale behind this move ? Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MSC-2020 -- Class 52: Convex and Discrete Geometry -- CAS Citations from 2000 to 2021

2022-08-21 Thread Thierry
) sage: I = R.ideal([R.random_element(), R.random_element()]) sage: get_systems('I.groebner_basis()') ['Singular'] Ciao, Thierry On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 03:13:11AM -0700, 'Travis Scrimshaw' via sage-devel wrote: > Indeed, it is not only great to see that

Re: [sage-devel] boolean value of inequality

2022-08-11 Thread Thierry
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 03:13:23PM +, Thierry wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 03:56:00PM +0200, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Am I doing something wrong? I would have expected the last line to r

Re: [sage-devel] boolean value of inequality

2022-08-11 Thread Thierry
his is definitely a bug. Note that sage: a = hl != hr sage: bool(a) True but sage: bool(a.expand()) False This is due to the fact that there is a call to is_trivial_zero instead of is_zero somewhere in the __bool__ method for symbolic expressions. Let me open a ticket and push a branch. Cia

[sage-devel] trailing sage-ipython processes in patchbots

2022-07-17 Thread Thierry
Hi, while running a patchbot client, i see a lot of unfinished processes whose command is "python3 /home/sagemath/sage/src/bin/sage-ipython -i" at various dates, indicating that something is not killed properly. The phenomenon is not new. Any hint on how to fix that ? Ciao, Thierr

Re: [sage-devel] Trying to fix trac #18488(solve() ignores conjugate)

2022-06-25 Thread Thierry
- a common mistake at this point is to close the Sage ticket. Don't do that. Instead, add a doctest showing that the bug is fixed, so that we get informed if it reappears. Ciao, Thierry > I think > first we could check whether the bug is being encountered or not, and if it > was

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.5 released

2022-04-26 Thread Thierry
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:32:03AM -0700, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:25:39 AM UTC-7 Thierry > (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:19:52AM -0700, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > > Marc Culler's macOS binary packa

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.5 released

2022-04-26 Thread Thierry
ust inviting trouble. > > Marc Culler's macOS binary packaging gets it right -- he just builds all > optional packages that happen to build without errors and includes them in > the binary package. It does not increase the overall size by much. Why not shipping binaries with

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.5 released

2022-04-26 Thread Thierry
, Thierry On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 05:15:51AM -0700, kcrisman wrote: > If we're moving away from providing binaries, then this is a good way to > go, well organized. Below a few minor notes about the sagemath-tobias > link, I hope they are helpful. My apologies in advance for any bi

Re: [sage-devel] Trouble with SSH access

2022-04-12 Thread Thierry
Hi, could you please retry ? (i will send details on sagemath-admins) Ciao, Thierry Le Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 10:24:53PM +, Thierry a écrit : > Hi, > > i had a quick look at the trac/git box: when a SSH pubkey is added from > the trac website, the /srv/git/repositories/gitoli

Re: [sage-devel] Trouble with SSH access

2022-04-11 Thread Thierry
action to fix this. Ciao, Thierry Le Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 01:48:11PM -0700, Tristan Phillips a écrit : > Thank you Maxime. Attached is my debug log. > > -Tristan > > On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 3:29:37 AM UTC-7 maxime...@inria.fr wrote: > > > On 4/8/22 22:08, Tristan

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: make Jupyterlab a standard package

2022-03-22 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:51:06AM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On Tue, 2022-03-22 at 13:47 +0000, Thierry wrote: > > > > "Standard" also means "be shipped within the source tarball" that is > > self-contained and does not require network connexio

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: make Jupyterlab a standard package

2022-03-22 Thread Thierry
e and more these days it means > "optional but enabled by default." "Standard" also means "be shipped within the source tarball" that is self-contained and does not require network connexion to be installed. Ciao, Thierry > I think anything that can be disabled

Re: [sage-devel] Re: minimal requirements

2022-02-03 Thread Thierry
On Thu, Feb 03, 2022 at 04:05:05PM -0800, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > And https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/reference/spkg/_prereq.html#spkg-prereq > has formatted versions of this information. Thanks, this is the kind of lists i was looking for. Ciao, Thierry > On Thursday, February 3,

[sage-devel] minimal requirements

2022-02-03 Thread Thierry
/installation/source.html Is there a place where we could find publically (not in SAGE_ROOT/build/pkgs/_prereq) the very minimal requirements to build Sage on some distros ? Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel"

Re: [sage-devel] Sage and the Pyjion JIT compiler

2022-01-31 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 31/01/2022 à 08:01, Matthias Koeppe a écrit : We may be able to speed up the parts of Sage that are implemented in Python using the Pyjion JIT compiler (https://www.trypyjion.com/). Running the Sage test suite with  Pyjion activated works remarkably well; there are only a small number of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 32768

2022-01-18 Thread Thierry
it laptop in Burkina Faso, none in Algeria. The next SDL will be 64bit, though we could continue to use my qemu machinery to build and test for 32bit arcitecture. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscr

[sage-devel] Unreachable-code warnings in GiNaC / sagelib / sage-9.5.rc1

2022-01-13 Thread Thierry Thomas
Hello, Trying to upgrade Sage to 9.5 on FreeBSD, I'm encountering an infinite loop in doc-inventory--reference-manifolds. When investigating for this problem (not yet solved), I noticed several warnings in sagelib / ginac when compiled with clang: sage/symbolic/ginac/cmatcher.cpp:548:17: warning

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath.org down ?

2021-12-28 Thread thierry
Hi, apparently, there was a big electricity cut in the North of Paris and the one PDU did not restart correctly. Hopefully, someone will restart the host soon. Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 05:03:51PM +0200, Jan Groenewald wrote: > Down for me too (from South Africa and from Germ

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-14 Thread Thierry
o that answers posted there can be used as a knowledge database. > I do notice that ask.sagemath has for some time only reported "0 years > ago" for recent questions - I don't think the askbot developer > (https://askbot.com) has been super productive lately and of course we >

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-14 Thread Thierry
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 10:37:06PM +, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 10:31 PM Thierry > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 11:20:31AM -0800, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > > I have received a report that ask.sagemath.

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath.org issues - do we need it?

2021-12-14 Thread Thierry
g/Infrastructure#ask.sagemath.org still current? The information there is up-to-date. The issue about account recovery is due to the fact that the current server is not configured to send emails. However, sending an email to sage-askbot-ad...@googlegroups.com should lead to some admin changing the use

Re: [sage-devel] Docker images no longer being build and is gitlab still maintained?

2021-11-30 Thread Thierry
st go "poof" at any moment, and it could be a > > very long time until it comes back, if ever. > > But for building docker images, that's probably fine. > > can it be used as a gitlab or/and github runner for sagemath org? > > I guess I don't have an acc

[sage-devel] Mirrors and binaries for MacOS and Windows

2021-10-29 Thread Thierry
9.2 version of Sage (0.6.2 installer), but the last release available on [2] is Sage 9.3 (0.6.3 installer) My second question is: is the 9.3 ready for use and recommended, and if yes, why isn't it available through the mirrors ? Ciao, Thierry [1] https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installati

Re: [sage-devel] Re: how to benefit from spkg-configure.m4 ?

2021-10-26 Thread Thierry
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 12:19:14PM -0700, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > On Monday, October 25, 2021 at 11:10:33 AM UTC-7 Thierry > (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > > > > I would like to run all self tests (with SAGE_CHECK='yes'), but if > > > > > som

Re: [sage-devel] Re: how to benefit from spkg-configure.m4 ?

2021-10-25 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 08:57:47AM -0700, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 5:59:36 AM UTC-7 Thierry > (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > > Here is another request, in the same vein > > towards being able to build and test most things without hu

Re: [sage-devel] Re: how to benefit from spkg-configure.m4 ?

2021-10-19 Thread Thierry
64 bits so that they remain under control. Ciao, Thierry > On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 12:35:57 PM UTC-7 Thierry > (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > let "pack" be an optional package with a spkg-configure.m4 file, and > > assume

Re: [sage-devel] Re: what is in SAGE_ROOT/pkgs/sagemath-standard ?

2021-10-14 Thread Thierry
its 4 subdirectories. Ciao, Thierry > On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 12:28:22 PM UTC-7 Thierry > (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > a new SAGE_ROOT/pkg/ appeared, and contains sagemath-standard/build/ > > which weights 3,2G and contains 4 directories: >

[sage-devel] how to benefit from spkg-configure.m4 ?

2021-10-14 Thread Thierry
lled anyway. What would be the make command to install pack unless the distro provided ? Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sag

[sage-devel] what is in SAGE_ROOT/pkgs/sagemath-standard ?

2021-10-14 Thread Thierry
could be removed without taking some time when re-running make build ? Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-deve

Re: [sage-devel] Adding tickmarks and its formats to bounding frame in 3d

2021-10-12 Thread Thierry
developer guide: https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/ Do not hesitate to ask for more details if needed. Ciao, Thierry > Paul > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from t

Re: [sage-devel] Remove nose package?

2021-09-30 Thread Thierry
standard ? Ciao, Thierry On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 10:53:36PM +0100, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 10:52 PM Isuru Fernando wrote: > > > > It looks to be required to run tests for networkx, cvxopt and > > symengine. Will tests for those packages just

Re: [sage-devel] Allow for --user pip installs for sage?

2021-09-27 Thread Thierry
Hi, for what it worth, i am +1 for letting the random user to pip-install her own packages, either on ~/.local as William suggested, and/or in ~/.sage/local as it used to be the case (this location ensures that Python packages unrelated to some Sage activity will not add noise). Ciao, Thierry

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Outdated instructions in "git the hard way"

2021-09-13 Thread Thierry
> > assuming that "trac" points to our Git server (as it normally done) this is > just > > git pull trac This is not "just": your suggestion hides the fact that you have to copy/paste the name of the ticket branch from a webbrowser, which is boring and takes

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Outdated instructions in "git the hard way"

2021-09-09 Thread Thierry
icket number. I use it a lot too. Let me also mention "git trac find" which, combined to "git blame" allows you to discover which ticket introduced some feature or bug, then you can add the participants in CC of a ticket corresponding to that feature or bug. Ciao, Thierry >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: workers for docker images on gitlab

2021-08-22 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 09:10:08PM +0300, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Someone has to set up a worker with enough resources. What are the requirements ? Is it possible to run unprivileged docker for such task ? Is there a straightforward doc somewhere ? Ciao, Thierry > The worker at U.

Re: [sage-devel] block vector

2021-07-09 Thread Thierry
ector(iterable): > return vector(sum((tuple(v) for v in iterable), tuple())) > > in `sage.modules.free_module_element.pyx` or other suggestions? > > I am currently reviewing #21235 and such "block vectors" are constructed > repeatedly to work together with block

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath.org down ?

2021-07-08 Thread Thierry
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 09:25:00AM +, Thierry wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 12:00:36AM -0700, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > > I could connect to ask.sagemath.org on Jul 8, 2021 at about 7:30 CEST, but > > no longer around 8;30 CEST. Air conditioning acting up

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath.org down ?

2021-07-08 Thread Thierry
g went wrong apparently, since i can not access the box. I will request a physical reboot and see what happened. Ciao, Thierry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group an

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath.org is down

2021-06-13 Thread Thierry
down too, as expected. :-( A similar air conditioning outage as last week happened, so the sysadmins decided not to restart most of the machines until an audit by some electrician is done on Monday. Let us hope they will identify the source of the problem. Ciao, Thierry > > On Sunda

Re: [sage-devel] ask.sagemath.org is down

2021-06-06 Thread Thierry
sk and wiki will be restarted tomorrow. In any case we have backup. Good to know that building was not burning https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-ovh-fire-idUSKBN2B20NU Ciao, Thierry > > > -- > > John > > > > -- > > You received this message bec

[sage-devel] Sage-9.3: error in dochtml/manifolds / matrix_real_double_dense / MPFR / matplotlib

2021-05-11 Thread Thierry Thomas
Hello, Trying to build Sage-9.3 on FreeBSD, it fails in dochtml/manifolds, with the following trace: [manifolds] # extension module 'sage.matrix.matrix_real_double_dense' loaded from '/usr/ports/math/sage-9.3/work/build/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/sage/matrix/matrix_real_double_dense.

Re: [sage-devel] docker latest is 9.1 not 9.2

2021-05-07 Thread Thierry
helpful, since many people in the Sage community will probably be willing to help, there are so many computational ressources sleeping in many labs (small grids, but also desktops with lot of cores and RAM which are used to ckeck email and browse the web). How do running a gitlab runner compares wit

Re: [sage-devel] How to install Cryptominisat-5.0.1 version in Sage-8.7 Inbox

2021-03-27 Thread Thierry
nload-liveusb.html https://sagedebianlive.metelu.net/ Note that this Sage version runs Python 2. Ciao, Thierry > On Saturday, 27 March 2021 at 14:04:06 UTC+5:30 dim...@gmail.com wrote: > > > this is certainly not recommended for "normal" use. > > > > If you are trying to reproduce

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Replacing %display latex with %display html

2021-03-23 Thread Thierry
ovides more explicit information, which are good to newcomers. Example: Univariate Polynomial Ring in X over Rational Field vs Q[X] Ciao, Thierry > Le mardi 23 mars 2021 à 19:13:10 UTC+1, Eric Gourgoulhon a écrit : > > > Hi, > > > > Le mardi 23 mars 2021 à 16:49

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Downgrade R to optional? See #31409.

2021-03-11 Thread Thierry
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 02:50:06PM -0800, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:55:54 PM UTC-8 Thierry > (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > > Until now, what i saw with WSL is that people have to install a > > GNU/Linux distro within WSL, to log in on it

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Downgrade R to optional? See #31409.

2021-03-11 Thread Thierry
/Linux/Sage/jupyter instance via http ? Ciao, Thierry > > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:10:01 PM UTC-8 emanuel.c...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > On Tarc#31409 <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31409>, E. Madison Bray > > proposed to make R an optionalp

Re: [sage-devel] Re: documentation of external packages, versionned online Sage doc

2021-02-17 Thread Thierry
or each release, and having https://doc.sagemath.org/current/ pointing to the doc of the last release. Currently some links on the web (e.g. on ask.sagemath.org) are outdated as the discussion does not correspond to the current state of the doc. Ciao, Thierry > Matthias > > > -- >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Help needed with adding user packages as optional/experimental packages

2021-02-08 Thread Thierry
side of things would be simpler. I do not see how having ore_algebra in PyPI would fix the issue of not providing downstream versions. Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Help needed with adding user packages as optional/experimental packages

2021-02-08 Thread Thierry
r question: what happens if at the end of a Sage release cycle, the downstream package is still broken ? Shall we remove the package from build/pkgs ? Shall we add a temporary patch within the spkg directory ? Or add a "broken" keyword for the "type" file ? Ciao, Thierry > On

Re: [sage-devel] lrcalc 2.0

2021-02-07 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 03:25:12PM +0100, Thierry Thomas wrote: > Hello, > > lrcalc has been upgraded to 2.0: see > <https://bitbucket.org/asbuch/lrcalc/src/master/ChangeLog> Here is a ticket for the upgrade: https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31355 > Is it expected tha

[sage-devel] lrcalc 2.0

2021-02-07 Thread Thierry Thomas
Hello, lrcalc has been upgraded to 2.0: see Is it expected that Sage 9.3 support it, or is it safer to keep lrcalc-1.3? Regards. -- Th. Thomas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel"

Re: [sage-devel] Use SymEngine as a symbolic mathematics backend for SAGE

2021-01-22 Thread Thierry Dumont
There was a message from B. Paisse some days ago, about C (++) and Julia for CAS. May be this https://arxiv.org/pdf/1705.06134v1.pdf is interesting. t.d. Le 22/01/2021 à 15:07, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 8:04 PM parisse wrote: Well, searching for "lisp infix notation"

Re: [sage-devel] How to review a ticket?

2021-01-19 Thread Thierry
Hi, you could ask for a trac acount as explained in the developer guide: https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/trac.html#obtaining-an-account Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 06:55:33AM -0800, Siddharth Bhat wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm trying to learn how to review Tr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: "Real Field" -> "Real Floating-point Field"

2020-10-15 Thread Thierry
number or not. I have a pretty long list of doctests (and implementation) that an abstraction of the genuine real field, as a container, should satisfy, and the previous examples will not hold. However, sage: RDF(1.1) in RR True will still hold, no worry about that ! Ciao, Thierry > Leave t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: "Real Field" -> "Real Floating-point Field"

2020-10-15 Thread Thierry
y case, i am not sure we should promote the current implementation of RR so much (MPRF), as RDF is much faster and allows tu use more external libraries, and RBF is more reliable and as fast. Ciao, Thierry > This is a big change, so we should make sure that many people have a > chance to gi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: "Real Field" -> "Real Floating-point Field"

2020-10-15 Thread Thierry
s a (pseudo-)field or not, now i am not sure that considering such parents ony as a bunch of numbers is enough, even for the user. Perhaps "Real floating-point pseudofield with x bits of precision" ? Ciao, Thierry > > John > > On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 9:04:55 A

[sage-devel] Re: "Real Field" -> "Real Floating-point Field"

2020-10-14 Thread Thierry Dumont
Le 14/10/2020 à 20:48, Matthias Koeppe a écrit : > On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 11:28:08 PM UTC-7, vdelecroix wrote: > > I would like to discuss the patchbomb at > >     https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/24523 > > > The ticket hopes to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: "Real Field" -> "Real Floating-point Field"

2020-10-14 Thread Thierry
Hi, +1 as well of course. A harder question is whether we are ready to replace the Python names RealField and RR with RealFloatingField and RFF, so that the names RealField and RR could be used for the genuine real field. Ciao, Thierry On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 02:13:29AM -0700, Michael Jung

[sage-devel] libnauty: args inversed in spkg-configure.m4

2020-10-03 Thread Thierry Thomas
Hello, I´m working on Sage-9.2.beta14, and I noticed that 2 args are switched in AC_SEARCH_LIBS: densenauty is the function and nauty is the library: --- build/pkgs/libnauty/spkg-configure.m4.orig 2020-10-02 15:26:33 UTC +++ build/pkgs/libnauty/spkg-configure.m4 @@ -2,6 +2,6 @@ SAGE_SPKG_CONFIGU

[sage-devel] 9.2 beta 14

2020-10-02 Thread Thierry Dumont
On Ubuntu 20-04 after a make distclean: -compilation ok. -make ptestlong: all tests passed. t.d. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsub

Re: [sage-devel] Build of 9.2beta14 failing on Ubuntu - Python 3.8.5

2020-10-01 Thread Thierry Dumont
Yes, readline has changed since a recent upgrade of Ubuntu (20-04. make distclean and rebuild will solve the problem (after a long compilation time). t.d. Le 02/10/2020 à 02:27, Kiran Kedlaya a écrit : > I just tried to build 9.2beta14 on my Ubuntu laptop and am getting an > error in python3-3.8.5

Re: [sage-devel] Re: unable to open some sobj-files computed on earlier versions of sage with sage9.1

2020-09-01 Thread thierry
element() 2*z2 + 2 sage: sage_input(_) ValueError: Can't convert 2*z2 + 2 to sage_input form Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 03:58:24PM +02

Re: [sage-devel] Re: https://wiki.sagemath.org/ReleaseTours/sage-9.2

2020-08-27 Thread Thierry
y) trac account, see https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/trac.html#obtaining-an-account Ciao, Thierry > -- Chase > > On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 3:08:05 PM UTC-6 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-7, Matthias Koeppe wrote

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Adding support for discrete differential geometry for SAGE?

2020-07-23 Thread Thierry
/tutorial/interfaces.html https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/thematic_tutorials/cython_interface.html To mention a few libraries of possible interest: https://www.cgal.org/ https://polymake.org/ https://dgtal.org/ Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:23:14PM -0700, Siddharth Bhat wrote

Re: [sage-devel] Apple on ARM

2020-06-23 Thread Thierry Dumont
Some weeks ago, there was a post on this list (or an other sage list) where somebody said he succeeded compiling sage on a Raspberry 4... so... t. Le 23/06/2020 à 14:11, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : > Sage used to work on ARM chips, we stopped testing on it due to lack of > hardware in 2015 or so. >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: conditional install of optional package

2020-05-27 Thread Thierry
e-${i} > if it failed. > OK, i will disable packages once they are built. Ciao, Thierry > > there is also a funtionality of tox available fot testing things, but > I am not familiar with it. > > HTH > Dima > > > > > > > > > Also, what sho

Re: [sage-devel] Re: conditional install of optional package

2020-05-27 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 08:46:42AM -0700, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > In general, to add a configure option, you can always do the following: > > ./configure $(./config.status --config) --enable-bar Nice tip, tanks ! Thierry > > Matthias > > > -- > You re

Re: [sage-devel] Re: conditional install of optional package

2020-05-26 Thread Thierry
? Also, what should i do if i want to run self tests at the same time ? I used to do: sage -i -c foo is there a ./configure replacement for that ? Ciao, Thierry [1] https://trac.sagemath.org/query?keywords=~sdl&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&a

[sage-devel] conditional install of optional package

2020-05-25 Thread Thierry
from the distro. However, when i do sage -i cbc it still installs cbc from Sage spkg, which i would like to avoid. What is the command that installs cbc (say) only if the distro replacements are not installed on the system ? Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are

Re: [sage-devel] Physics related tutorials

2020-05-23 Thread Thierry
ent, i would suggest to first write the tutorials you have in mind, and then see where they fit best (sagemathfold webpage, wiki, thematic tutorials, homepage of some lecture, etc). Ciao, Thierry > Best wishes, > Furkan. > > -- > You received this message because you are subsc

Re: [sage-devel] Packaging Sage?

2020-05-10 Thread Thierry Thomas
Le dim. 10 mai 20 à 16:02:51 +0200, Julien Puydt écrivait : > > TL;TR: Packagers, how do you deal with Sage to package it for your > > Linux distribution (or *BSD system)? > > > For Debian, we use our packages as much as possible ; the repository > can be seen here: > > https://salsa.debian.o

[sage-devel] Packaging Sage?

2020-05-10 Thread Thierry Thomas
Hello, TL;TR: Packagers, how do you deal with Sage to package it for your Linux distribution (or *BSD system)? Details: Sage has been ported to FreeBSD many years ago (4.8), but now the port is lagging and no more packages are built; I'm trying to fix it. Problem: on FreeBSD, packages are built

Re: [sage-devel] Online SageDays on the occasion of the 9.1 release?

2020-05-05 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 12:49:33PM -0700, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > Would people be interested in some Zoom SageDays on the occasion of the > upcoming 9.1 release? There is a similar open proposal for days109 : https://wiki.sagemath.org/days109 That said, i am -1 for zoom. Ciao, T

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Want to add generalised Newton's method for solving a nonlinear systems of equations to Sage

2020-05-02 Thread Thierry Dumont
ethods are very specialized, and I am not sure it will be an useful tool. But I can be wrong. Yours, Thierry. Le 02/05/2020 à 00:28, Daniel Khodabakhsh a écrit : > Sorry forgot to give details on the algorithm I want to add. > > Here's a Wikipedia link o > <https://en.wikipe

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Rounding in Sage

2020-04-07 Thread Thierry
By the way, an excellent ressource to teach those kind of things and check carefully what happens is the sign_mantissa_exponent method: sage: a = RR(1.1) sage: a 1.10 sage: a.sign_mantissa_exponent() (1, 4953959590107546, -52) Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 05:34:44PM

Re: [sage-devel] Rounding in Sage

2020-04-07 Thread Thierry
ty, round half to even, round half to odd, round half > alternatingly to 0 and away from 0, do the rounding in RR, ...). > > Is there such function in Sage? Otherwise I would just write a custom > function for my course. RR is a shortcut for RealField(), but the RealField function h

Re: [sage-devel] Sage on FreeBSD

2020-03-26 Thread Thierry Thomas
Hello, A work-in-progress has been proposed in the FreeBSD Phabricator at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D24195 Its aim is to upgrade the actual port to 9.0. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r

Re: [sage-devel] nt.sagenb.org and sagenb.org

2020-03-25 Thread Thierry
of ask.sagemath.org and a fixed backup of the former files.sagemath.org We could set up other backups (trac, wiki, etc), but we need an ssh acces for that. Ciao, Thierry On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:17:16PM -0700, kcrisman wrote: > > > On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 1:46:05 PM UTC-4

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sagelib does not compile : /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -larb

2020-03-20 Thread Thierry
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 11:25:25AM -0700, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29287 fixes it. It worked, thanks ! Thierry > > On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:51:17 PM UTC-4, Thierry > (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > &

Re: [sage-devel] sagelib does not compile : /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -larb

2020-03-20 Thread Thierry
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 01:42:23AM +0800, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 12:51 AM Thierry > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > for the first time in a while, i did a "make distclean" to test the > > `spkg-configure.m4` feature. I am running a

[sage-devel] sagelib does not compile : /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -larb

2020-03-20 Thread Thierry
g What is wrong ? Ciao, Thierry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on

Re: [sage-devel] nt.sagenb.org and sagenb.org

2020-03-09 Thread Thierry
Hi, we should do something with those file, since there are very good ideas in there. How large is the whole nt.sagenb.org + sagenb.org data ? Ciao, Thierry On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 10:05:49AM -0700, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Somebody asked me about a link to a public notebo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Buiding sage on a Raspberry Pi 4B

2019-12-31 Thread Thierry Dumont
I wanted to say "...have NO spool ..." Apologize. t.d. Le 31/12/2019 à 19:10, Thierry Dumont a écrit : > > Are you sure you don't have a problem with the size of the ram ? You > certainly have spool virtual memory partition. > > I have run some programs on a P

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Buiding sage on a Raspberry Pi 4B

2019-12-31 Thread Thierry Dumont
Are you sure you don't have a problem with the size of the ram ? You certainly have spool virtual memory partition. I have run some programs on a PI (3) (not Sage), and when the memory was full, I have got some segmentation faults (this should not happen, but..). This was on raspbian, two years ag

Re: [sage-devel] Simple integral raises AttributeError

2019-12-09 Thread Thierry
> answer via Maxima, it tries SymPy but is not capable to translate the > result back to Sage. I could not find a ticket about this. Shall I open one? For what it worth, the change was done at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/27958 Ciao, Thierry > Eric. > > PS: for the record

Re: [sage-devel] Request for comments: add a "domain=" option to symbolic integration methods/functions

2019-11-30 Thread Thierry
st look up the > grad course in your college catalog and see if you can > do the homework problems using Sage.) In case someone would like to give a try, could you please provide some details of what would have been a good design ? Ciao, Thierry > Sorry for being such a pe

Re: [sage-devel] building Sage docs on small VMs

2019-11-05 Thread Thierry
ed VM, i do: false ; while [ ! ${?} = 0 ] ; do make doc ; done Ciao, Thierry > [dochtml] [reference] valuations: 1 todos, 14 index, 1495 > citations, 13 modules > [dochtml] [reference] ... done (483 todos, 2097 index, 1506 citations, > 2047 modules) > [dochtml] [reference] prepa

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