Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread William Missett
Hey, flus do kill. I was in NYC in 2002 or so, when the Australian flu was killing old folks, who were sick for weeks and months before dying. Allopathic medicine had nothing to fight it off. Since I almost qualified as an old folk, I was paying attention. I caught it, and it was brutal, but I

Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue

2007-10-16 Thread Michael Zangari
Keeping current on this thing has been difficult. At last report the vaccine was being tested on US Air Force personnel. Emergent BioSolutions in $448M Contract Anthrax vaccines to become mandatory again ...www.gnn.tv/headlines/11819/Anthrax_vaccines_to_become_mandatory_again -

Re: CSForced Anthrax vaccines - NOT... WAS: Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Michael Zangari
I had several high density negative ion generators going in my apartment for seve years prior to the arival of the anthrax. I used negative ions for clarity, killing bacteria, and brightness. It was a studio condo. Very small with a very dense concentration of negative ions. I think that did

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
It's mostly self defense that makes Doctors toe the official line If they weren't constantly under attack, they could afford to explore more...but deviate just a little and be wrong, unbelievable law suits, flocks of vultures swoop in for their pound of flesh with the victim getting a third

CSSalt therapy

2007-10-16 Thread Dee
I have a chest infection (given to me by stupid daughter who had 'flu jab!) which started as the 'flu, but thanks to CS is now just a mild cold. The thing is, I have a weak chest which always takes ages to clear and am wondering whether any of you have used a 'salt pipe'? I have seen one

Re: CSDoctors... The New Order of Doctors

2007-10-16 Thread Mark Siepak
Sounds a lot like Farenheit 451 to me. George Orwell was about 20 years ahead of his time, should have been 2004! Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the better off everybody will be. 800,000 killed last year at the hand of these genius', can anyone explain to me how

CSRe: ot chlorinated water and health

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
It's just that only now, after years of pretty intense reading, chlorine is looking more and more like a really, really nasty guy regarding its effects on us. Which is kind of ironic, since MMS - which results in the steady release of 'chlorine dioxide' in the body - is looking like one of the

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in lately? The list is a long one. Even the Pharm is catching on. As of around 5

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
The incidences of autism is linked to ***mercury*** IN vaccines, not any vaccine. Make the distinction and the statement may have a chance of believability. While I agree that autism is most likely caused by the mercury contamination in vaccines, as opposed to the vaccine itself, there is

CSRe: Vaccines Part 3

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
A skeptic would just consider the odds with the alternatives and possible consequences and take that action. But you have argued in favor of ENFORCED, INVOLUNTARY vaccinations, Ode. I have no problem with them being voluntary - just take your enforcers guns out of the equation. Ignore

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
BUT it sure doesn't give whoever is producing these vaccines the right to put mercury and/or anyother extremely harmful additive to these vaccines that are causing havoc in the unsuspecticing, trusting publics, bodies.debbie No disagreement there...and they have stopped doing that now

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
Well, believe this: If you have the flu, you have no right to go out in public, much less transport people around. Doing so is irresponsible, if not illegal. So you are looking forward to the day when the medical industry has the power to jail - and even kill - people who you believe has

CSRe: Forced Anthrax vaccines - NOT... WAS: Re: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
btw, Simon, it would stand to reason that once they kill you with a gun, they won't bother with further attempts to vaccinate you. ;) Lead: the ultimate vaccine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at:

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
That depends on the flu strain. The H5N1bird flu, so far, has a 60% survival rate...IF... you have access to a ventilator to keep you breathing. That's about a 90% mortality rate without one and most well equipped hospitals only have a dozen or so. It's not that flu that kills you, it's a

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
On all flu strains? Never. Ode At 02:39 PM 10/15/2007 -0700, you wrote: When did they make a flu shot that works? Kurt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1072 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 5:55 PM

Re: CSRe: CS turning yellow?

2007-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
At 05:52 PM 10/15/2007 -0400, you wrote: Ode If you use the peroxide in the cs is it still safe to use in eyes? Dianne It only takes about 6 drops of 3% to the quart. I'd say, no problem. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 /

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread bbanever
Ya, I even found some toothpaste being sold with silver in it! Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:38 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective

Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue

2007-10-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread bbanever
Ode, In addition to silver, MMS (sodium chlorite 28%) mixed with citric acid turns to chlorine dioxide... can be taken in very small amounts mixed with water/juice to oxidize any microbe (or chemical for that matter) in a matter of minutes. Works better than silver IMO.

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread John Plumridge
--On 16 October 2007 07:38:00 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in

Re: CSCS and Vitamin C

2007-10-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Heidrun Beer wrote: My CS turns muddy if I add Vitamin C. Most likely the ionic portion is turning to an insoluble silver ascorbate, and the colloidal portion is aggregating due to the low ph. Does that mean it is becoming useless? Quite possibly. I would not do it. Does the same thing

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread John Plumridge
--On 16 October 2007 09:15:16 -0400 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: That depends on the flu strain. The H5N1bird flu, so far, has a 60% survival rate...IF... you have access to a ventilator to keep you breathing. That's the human engineered variety. That's about a 90%

CSCanine Eye Infection

2007-10-16 Thread Pat
My Australian Cattle Dog suddenly got an eye infection a couple weeks ago. The eye was red and oozing green stuff from the inside corner. I sprayed her eyes with CS about 5 times a day and gave her a little orally too. The infection got better, but not totally well. Then the other eye got

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
It is not all the doctors that are the basis for the system. It looks to be insurance companies, and a few bad guys. And how many would die with no medical treatment? Alot. I good solution, imho, is to let each person decide what they want to do with their own body. And to keep governemental

Re: CSDoctors... The New Order of Doctors

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
It said the insurance companies are doing that, paying a bounty on each person denied coverage. On Oct 15, 2007, at 5:32 PM, CWFugitt wrote: Evening Kurt, At 04:37 PM 10/15/2007, you wrote: Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the better off everybody will be.

CSBrooks Braidley posting on arthritis

2007-10-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Here is a previous posting on this newgroup: Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear Eleanor, Just a comment or two for now, as I have to leave shortly. We have conducted many ev aluations of both Osteo and Rheumatoid arthritis as it affects articulating joints. Of all protocols evaluated, the most

Re: CSCS and Vitamin C

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
why are you adding anything to the CS? It is not necessary. It is much better to use it alone. When you add anything to the electrically isolated silver, the silver ions will combine with what ever it is, and make compounds you really do not want. I like to take mine in the mouth, holding it

Re: CSRe: CS turning yellow?

2007-10-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: At 05:52 PM 10/15/2007 -0400, you wrote: Ode If you use the peroxide in the cs is it still safe to use in eyes? Dianne It only takes about 6 drops of 3% to the quart. I'd say, no problem. Ode That is interesting, because I determined that a half teaspoon per gallon

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
bbanever wrote: Ya, I even found some toothpaste being sold with silver in it! Bob Where? What is the name of it? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
Hey, flus do kill. Only those with a sufficiently weakened immunse system. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address

Re: CSRe: CS turning yellow?

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
And might I suggest using one drop at a time? I have success with less it depends on how many particles are there. Ode, thanks for explaning this so well. On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:27 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: At 05:52 PM 10/15/2007 -0400, you wrote: Ode If you use the peroxide in the cs is it

Re: CSCanine Eye Infection

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
you could make it into a gel, like they did with the antibiotic. I am not sure if the gel kit sold at silverpuppy it ok to use in the eyes, but you could ask them, or just make some and try it on yourself. On Oct 16, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Pat wrote: My Australian Cattle Dog suddenly got an

Re: CSRe: CS turning yellow?

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
I added a few drops of H2O2 to some newly made cs, and it turned it a funny brownish yellow color, then I let it sit for a week, and started adding H2O2 a drop at a time, it turned clear, and the uS went up. Which I interpret to mean that the particles were broken up by the peroxide and went

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
well, someone mentioned before that the flu vac is a gamble in any case. The CDC goes to the East and tries to hedge bets on which new flu will make it's way here next, and then make up vacs for that virus. The last time I heard, there were several strains in the one vac, so they were betting

Re: CSCS and Vitamin C

2007-10-16 Thread Heidrun Beer
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:09:04 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote in 4714e220.6020...@king-cart.com: Heidrun Beer wrote: My CS turns muddy if I add Vitamin C. Most likely the ionic portion is turning to an insoluble silver ascorbate, and the colloidal portion is aggregating due to the low ph.

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
Silver IS being rediscovered in more effective forms as nano-technology and ion exchange technology are better understood though progression of discovery. You haven't noticed how many products it's being used in lately? The list is a long one. Even the Pharm is catching on. Sp, we should

CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Simon Jester
In the case of life threatening pandemic, it will be illegal and you could rightfully get yourself shot if you leave home. Yep - definitely self-defense. Sorry - this comment makes no sense in context - I neglected to excise it after excising something else that would have made it make

Re: CSCS and Vitamin C

2007-10-16 Thread Heidrun Beer
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:57:10 -0500, Clayton Family wrote in 852d3c8390b76a6af6cdcf0f8b2ae...@skypoint.com: why are you adding anything to the CS? It is not necessary. It is much better to use it alone. When you add anything to the electrically isolated silver, the silver ions will combine with

Re: CSSalt therapy

2007-10-16 Thread Smitty
I have a chest infection (given to me by stupid daughter who had 'flu jab!) which started as the 'flu, but thanks to CS is now just a mild cold. The thing is, I have a weak chest which always takes ages to clear and am wondering whether any of you have used a 'salt pipe'? I have seen one

[RE]CSCanine Eye Infection

2007-10-16 Thread Brooks Bradley
-[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : CSCanine Eye Infection Date : Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:37:29 -0700 (PDT) From : Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To : silver list silver-list@eskimo.com My Australian Cattle Dog suddenly got an eye infection a couple weeks ago. The eye was red

Re: CSCanine Eye Infection

2007-10-16 Thread Tad Winiecki
I have treated eye infections in myself and also my cat with herbs. One of the best is whole fennel seed, available in grocery stores or Asian markets; and also a common weed, Prunella vulgaris, Self-heal; and Plantago lanceolata, Ribwort Plaintain, called the #1 heat-clearing agent by The

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Tad Winiecki
I've been using some toothpaste called SilvaFresh by TriMedica. It's homeopathic silver x4 along with 8 other homeopathic substances, in a base of aloe vera distillate, but does have Glycerin, has Xylitol. I get it from Azure Standard co-op. Nancy On Oct 16, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Marshall

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Milkowski
You'd be surprised at how 'cool' some of these guys are, just under the lab coats, nearly incomprehensible back deck barbecue party conversations and triple PHD exteriors No hookers to go along with the barbeques? It would help ease thier minds as they develope new ways to kill

CSCS safety

2007-10-16 Thread Smitty
This from the MDI_news forum = Every documented case of Argyria was caused NOT from CS, but from *other* forms of silver that ARE WELL KNOWN TO CAUSE ARGYRIA. The only two people that I know of (I don't know anyone personally, but recall these two from online forums like this one) who exhibited

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Milkowski
And the purpose of the vaccines and the chemtrails is to do just that, weaken your immune system. When you look at why the fictional bird flue, the reason it doesn't kill humans yet is because of our body temparature. The virus when inhaled by humans dies right away because the temparature in

Re: CSVaccines- chronic fatigue

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Milkowski
How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a new disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to

[RE]CSCanine Eye Infection:Comment

2007-10-16 Thread Brooks Bradley
Dear Pat, I would offer the following commentary on your inquiry: First, standalone CS solutions do not exhibit real low surface tension characteristics and therefore present rather low penetration, and slow-speed absorption by epithelial tissueand especially the general

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Milkowski
Actually president shrub, just vetoed a bill that would have removed mercury from vaccines, What a guy. Kurt Simon Jester tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: BUT it sure doesn't give whoever is producing these vaccines the right to put mercury and/or anyother extremely harmful additive

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Milkowski
When so many people go to see a doctor because they have no idea what is wrong with them and are sent away being told that there is nothing wrong with them all the while the doctor knows but he is lying, that makes them EVIL. I know there may be some that don't have a clue as to whats going on,

Re: CSSalt therapy

2007-10-16 Thread Jodi
Smitty wrote: I have a chest infection (given to me by stupid daughter who had 'flu jab!) which started as the 'flu, but thanks to CS is now just a mild cold. The thing is, I have a weak chest which always takes ages to clear and am wondering whether any of you have used a 'salt pipe'? I

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread Carol Ann
Kurt ~ Doctors are no more evil or good based solely upon their profession than say...your local pastor, or service engineer be they mechanics or plumbers. More so when the individual seeking advice is totally ignorant about the service sought. Doctors are but mere mortals, human beings

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
the ones I saw that did say EXACTLY that, were not lying. They just believed the load of hogwash they were being fed. Some of it prepetrated by the ones that *are* evil, and behind the supression of the free practice of medicine ( and I do not mean money). Other parts of it are rooted in

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread Richard
Simon , why are you attacking OdeĀ“s credibility and attempting to be clever? Ode knows a lot more about CS than you, he certainly writes a lot better than you and his Silver puppy generators are the best on the market . Are you really a simple minded peasant or is that just a giant chip

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread faith gagne
I am really fed up with this conversation. I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only helped me immeasurably over and over again, but who I have come to consider kind, loving and caring friend. All this doctor-bashing is really getting to me. I like and

Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines?

2007-10-16 Thread bbanever
Tad, Yep, that's the same brand of toothpaste I found at a local health food store. - Original Message - From: Tad Winiecki winie...@pacifier.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Forced flu vaccines? I've been using some

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread Tad Winiecki
My experience is that doctors actually don't know what is wrong when the cause of the problem is nutritional. They are not taught nutrition in medical school. So they can tell you straight-faced that you have a disease whose cause is unknown and it cannot be cured but they can give you

Re: CSLugols at Walmart

2007-10-16 Thread Deborah Gerard
Leslie did you ever hear from the co.?...thanks debbie Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote: I just wrote the company asking if was the same as Lugols and if it had alcohol, so we will see but might be tomorrow when I get an answer. Leslie - Original Message - From:

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread Dianne France
The main doctor I see is very open minded about my ideals of how I want to be treated for problems I go in for and tries hard to work with me. She will suggest things and listens to what I say. We don't always agree with what I need but she treats my decisions with respect. That is not

Re: CSLugols at Walmart

2007-10-16 Thread Leslie
Hey, I did post it right after I got it, but putting on here with the rest of the notes. Sorry The company came back and said it was alcohol which is not in Lugols. - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:52 PM

CSDoctors, The good, the Bad, and the ugly

2007-10-16 Thread CWFugitt
Evening Faith, At 06:40 PM 10/16/2007, you wrote: I am really fed up with this conversation. I always hate to disagree with you, but sometimes, I have to. grin Just a little anyway. I have 3 or 4 extremely good and wonderrful doctors who have not only helped me immeasurably over and

Re: CSDoctors...

2007-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Tad Winiecki wrote: I asked her why she couldn't test people for their mineral deficiencies and treat their nutritional diseases, and she said the insurance company would not pay for the tests, or there were no tests for some. That is exactly what I am

Re: CSDoctors... The New Order of Doctors

2007-10-16 Thread MargoMix
In a message dated 10/15/2007 6:38:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, c_wa...@earthlink.net writes: Evening Kurt, At 04:37 PM 10/15/2007, you wrote: Well the more people become aware of the evil medical system the better off everybody will be. 800,000 killed last year at the hand of these

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #460

2007-10-16 Thread Murphys
unscribe please - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2007 #460 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for