Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-19 Thread Ode Coyote
Any droplet size that's small enough to not trigger the cough reflex should do just fine. Ode At 10:01 AM 10/16/2009 -0500, you wrote: The issue of droplet size is that there is an optimal size above or below which the medication is not delivered deep into lung tissue. Room humidifiers

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-19 Thread Garnet
I always cough with my Mystique and even with the table top US unit I bought more recently. But the coughing only lasts for a couple of breaths off the nebulizer. How would you interpret this? Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-19 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
That's what happens to me with the Medisana, but its not a problem. dee On 19 Oct 2009, at 18:30, Garnet wrote: I always cough with my Mystique and even with the table top US unit I bought more recently. But the coughing only lasts for a couple of breaths off the nebulizer. How would you

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-18 Thread Malcolm
Hi Garnet, Thanks for your reply; I went on ebay and couldn't find an Omron unit, though I did see some rather interesting pieces of plastic; basketballs, duckies, spaceships (I think), and a few super-expensive (by my standards, $250) ones which pre-heated the water and controlled that temp

Re: CSequine nebulizer-Nebulizer Droplet Sizes-O2 Nebulizer?

2009-10-18 Thread Peter Converse
- From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: CSequine nebulizer What I did was look at the specs on various nebulizers on line and noticed that even between nebulizer units there is a difference in droplet size

Re: CSequine nebulizer-Nebulizer Droplet Sizes-O2 Nebulizer?

2009-10-18 Thread Garnet
- Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: CSequine nebulizer What I did was look at the specs on various nebulizers on line and noticed that even between nebulizer units there is a difference in droplet

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-18 Thread Garnet
Here is a table top unit that may be sufficient for a horse: http://cgi.ebay.com/Table-Desk-top-POWER-NEB-Nebulizer-Compressor-AEROSOL_W0QQitemZ270388545665QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef469c881#ht_1730wt_868 Here is the info on the new hand held that included a phone

Re: CSequine nebulizer-Nebulizer Droplet Sizes-O2 Nebulizer?

2009-10-18 Thread Peter Converse
...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: CSequine nebulizer-Nebulizer Droplet Sizes-O2 Nebulizer? Smaller is better to a point, there is an optimal size range for penetrating to the alveoli. It's been a long time since I did the reading

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-18 Thread Malcolm
Hi Garnet, Thanks for the links. The compressor nebs produce aerosols or fogs of coarser droplet size than the ultrasonic. I believe the question of nebulizing soluble meds for a horse entered the discussion before I entered it. I'm focused on human use. The lit. on the Omron vibrating mesh

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-17 Thread Garnet
What I did was look at the specs on various nebulizers on line and noticed that even between nebulizer units there is a difference in droplet size, the smaller handheld units had larger droplet sizes, although this may not be true now since Omron has come out with a new technology in their

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote
Whole room Ultrasonic humidifiers make quite small droplets and large volumes of them...but do bypass or gut any filters it may have. I have a Relion unit that you can hook up a vacuum cleaner hose to. [Wallyworld $40 ] Ode At 09:55 PM 10/15/2009 -0500, you wrote: Use the equine

RE: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread Dianne France
-0500 From: gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSequine nebulizer Use the equine nebuliser, not the humidifier. The humidifier makes larger droplets and they will not reach deep into the lungs before condensing. The nebuliser makes a smaller droplet

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread Garnet
-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSequine nebulizer Use the equine nebuliser, not the humidifier. The humidifier makes larger droplets and they will not reach deep into the lungs before condensing. The nebuliser makes a smaller droplet. If the horse is coughing and trying to clear mucous

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread polo
- From: Dianne France To: silver-list Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:03 AM Subject: RE: CSequine nebulizer Garnet I looked on line for equine nebulizer but got lost int he shuffle. Do you have a suggestion as to what model or type to use? My girlfriend has the headset and hose

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread Garnet
The issue of droplet size is that there is an optimal size above or below which the medication is not delivered deep into lung tissue. Room humidifiers do not make the same size droplet as a nebulizer. You can research the specs on droplet size or speak to someone who sells various

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread Malcolm
Hi Garnet, Go to your local friendly thrift stores, look for ULTRASONIC humidifiers, the kind for whole rooms - not the personal face mask sort. Do like Ode said, take out their little filters(if present) in the bottom of the unit where the water from the tank goes to get to the ultrasonic disc,

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread Malcolm
Hi Garnet, I'd be interested in knowing how you - or whoever - arrived at this conclusion, since the ultrasonic element seems to be about the same in the one (only one) I've seen used for animals and the multitude I've seen for humans. My only point is that someone may have been trying to sell

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread Dan Nave
I wonder if it isn't more a matter of being able to attach it properly to the animal face-mask apparatus. Dan On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote: Hi Garnet, I'd be interested in knowing how you - or whoever - arrived at this conclusion, since the ultrasonic element

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-16 Thread Malcolm
Plain old feed bag would probably do, huh? Doesn't have to be an airtight seal. On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 16:53 -0500, Dan Nave wrote: I wonder if it isn't more a matter of being able to attach it properly to the animal face-mask apparatus. Dan On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Malcolm

Re: CSequine nebulizer

2009-10-15 Thread Garnet
Use the equine nebuliser, not the humidifier. The humidifier makes larger droplets and they will not reach deep into the lungs before condensing. The nebuliser makes a smaller droplet. If the horse is coughing and trying to clear mucous Guaifenisin will help liquify the mucous. Your vet may