So Long Old Friend
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I think it is abundantly clear the path that is needed to be taken in
soaring to restore it to all its glory. Yes, I am talking about the
complete prohibition of all but one aircraft from soaring competition.
The one and only aircraft that shall be used is the venerable Skeeter,
and it MUST
The AA cells are 2,000 mAh. The AAA cells 800 mAh
http://www.eneloopusa.com/pdf/HR-4UTG_Spec-eneloopAAA.pdf
http://www.eneloopusa.com/pdf/HR-3UTG_Spec-eneloop.pdf
I charge mine with a Sirius charger (Quad Charger @ 1 amp).
They only come in a consumer type cell with button top.
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But when it comes to the expensive big stuff there is just one choice, the 12X.
Larry, all due respect one Fan-Boy to another, when JR comes out with a
radio that allows full flexibility in the assignment of functions,
switches, mixes and conditions, then I might
I'm using them in a 3-channel transmitter. They run it (Futaba PM) for
14 hours and hold their charge on the shelf like a lipo. The internal
impedance is 25 milliohms. So not great, about the same as the Santo
2700 AA cells.
Here's their website: http://www.eneloopusa.com/
Cell Specs:
Speaking of Top Gun and jets. Take a gander at this:
http://www.futaba-rc.com/team/index.html
Gospodarek wrote:
Here is a link to Popular Science that has an article about an A-10 Jet that
might interest some. Also in the May 2000 issue.
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I'm curious with the new found religion of using an in flight glitch
counter (data logger) on the 2.4 stuff if anyone has any data from 72
band radios?? It would be interesting to know how they compared.
It would also be interesting to know what the failure threshold is for
packet loss. How
David Klein wrote:
I would really like a 12
channel, full function, transmitter for future projects.
That would be cool!!. Oh wait, you can buy them now.. Just not in Red.
Sorry. Door left open kind of thing.
I'll stop. For now.
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Question:
What's a Ham Module?
I know the 9303 TX can accept different modules in the back of it, but
what does a Ham Module do for you?
Answer:
It's a module that transmits on the 50 MHz (6 M) band, which requires
an amateur radio (Ham) license to use.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I
The best part of using 2.4 is answering the question what channel are
you on?
Answer - Two Billion - 400 Million!!
Great fun watching the confused faces!!
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Darwin N. Barrie wrote:
everyone has a pool.
Except you!
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Daryl does make an excellent point that a detuned TD winch with a narrow
spool braided line, might cause some issues with heavier stronger planes.
Isn't that the objective?? Keep lines from breaking and strong planes
from launching high.
In the end what I know is that no matter what you
His last main event in the US was at the June XC event at Montague this
year. He won everything.
I'm pretty sure I saw him at Visalia this year. I could be wrong, I
spent a lot of time at the beer tent.
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I saw the one at this years Visalia. I think I looked like any guy staring at
the most beautifull girl in the world.
Wow. You definitely need to get out more often!!
I saw it as well. I think it would look great in orange!!!
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What?? No Open Scale hand launch cross country??
Kurt Zimmerman wrote:
Gives us entertainment for the up and coming year :-)
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I certainly hope you are not doing this on company time!!
Troublemaker.
John Diniz wrote:
Again this Nat's thing is being held in the MID-WEST!!! Gosh Dernnit
I ain't gonna fly it until it's on the west coast. You know some of the
best flyers are on the west coast so it really isn't a true
Ed Anderson wrote:
Craig,
There are several factors why the JR 9303 2.4 is getting more press than the
Futaba.
1) This is a soaring list serve and the 9303 has received much greater
acceptance as a 6+ servo sailplane radio than any of the Futaba transmitters.
True enough. Unfortunately not
The Futaba FASST system has two antennas and does not use a second RX.
Each antenna has a short piece of coaxial cable on it (very small
diameter) that is a few inches long. This makes it much easier to get
the antennas out and away from the CF in a fuse, etc.
Just wanted to throw that so it
Any help??
Thanks
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I have to say that I view this is the single most important development
in RC since the advent of proportional radios. SS offers essentially
glitch free operation while eliminating the possibility of being shot
down by some knuckle-head.
It will make running a contest a breeze. No more
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Blah blah blah... :-)
I remember the same kind of comments .
This will stun many to hear, but Gordy, once again, you have completely
missed the point.
As far as the freedom from ever being shot down, were you not involved
in just such an incident a few
prizmatics would fit our current moldies, they offer no where NEAR the required
current demands due to their internal structure.
I am curious what you feel are the current demands of a typical 6-servo
TD ship.
I can give you some documented loads from other uses.
Raptor 50 heli with 5
Yep. He is all over several forums. He maintains that his system is the
be all, end all of SS. As of today the only public demonstration has
been in a foamy and a 29% Giles (electric). He makes some fascinating
claims but as of yet has not provided any real proof beyond his own
unverified
Anybody know of a source for 2mm music wire?? I want stiff wire. I can
get soft metal used in quik-links locally, but I cannot find music wire
in metric sizes anywhere.
TIA
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Word is that they are thinking about every other year. It will take me
at least two years before I think going back to Muncie sounds like fun!!!
WEM
Pat McCleave wrote:
Hi Guys,
It may be too early to ask this, but with the success of this years WSM, are there plans
yet for the 2007
A couple of other things.
Aaron Valdes (thanks for the throws and timing!!) and I were chatting
and decided that this contest was the equivalent of 300 launch cycles
due to the extreme stress of each of the 11 :~{ launches we got. Ask Lex
Mierop - he tells me that you can indeed flap the
Can anyone tell me the relationship between antenna down ground range
and antenna up airborne performance?? What exactly is the mathematical
relationship?? If this is real, then it should be able to be written in
a formula.
No other radio device that I know of tests its performance by taking
First RC plane: Goldberg Falcon 56 with an OS 35 on it. Ended up
weighing something like 50 pounds after all the repairs (flew on 27
megahertz - CB band!).
First glider: Can't remember for sure. The first one I CAN remember was
an Astro-Flight ASW-27.
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Two words.
Range Check.
FWIW, I run the antenna inside all my composite planes. I have the RX
antenna in the CF boom of a Topaz and down the tail of my Artemis LT and
NYX. I also run internal antennas on composite fuse gasoline (ignition)
powered planes. All without any problems.
But as
Most TD pilots always have a team.
This is so true and it is vital to understanding our sport.
The first thing to know is that when you make your time, especially in
difficult air, it is 100% the PILOT. Anytime you miss your time, or even
a landing, it is undoubtedly the fault of your
A quick Google search brought up 462,000 hits in 0.62 seconds. That
ought to get you started!!
Here's a good start:
http://www.fai.org/aeromodelling/rcsoaring/
Harry DeBoer wrote:
OK
Now that most of the smoke has cleared, where can we find more out about
F3B;
1. what are the task?
Interesting numbers from the LSF-NATS Entry pages.
Unlimited entries = 62
RES entries = 52
2M entries = 40 (65% of UNL, 77% of RES)
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OK, I have FINALLY decided to start the LSF process and already I am
confused, which may indicate that all is lost even before I get started.
My first two questions involve the landing Task. Here is what the LSF
sheet says:
*
Section 9 - Precision Spot Landing
A precision spot
Mike Smith wrote:
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I know the world is invited. If I win, I
will be telling both of my friends that I am the best in the world.
All time, best movie line ever written.
Zorro, The Gay Blade (George Hamilton)
Zorro and Don Esteban are in a sword fight, dueling
Trying to find out if anyone will be at your field this Saturday and if
guests are allowed. I also understand that altitude limitations. I have
a friend from the Valley and we want to meet halfway between there and
south OC. El Dorado sounded like a natural.
Any feedback on the current status
It could be construed that this is intended to reduce the number of West
Cost entries.
Interesting.
Why not just use post mark date and eliminate the who lives closest to
Jim factor??
I have already heard through the grapevine that Red shirts will get
preference over say, Orange and Black,
Not with the way the Mid-West guys have clearly rigged things. I mean
FIRST they hold the thing in Muncie (as you so aptly pointed out, not
one of the garden spots of the US), THEN they work up this entry deal to
favor the Middies. I don't know. It all sounds a little too fishy to me!!
And
Interesting. I have flown synthesized RXs in gliders, large scale power
planes (with LONG leads, large VERY powerful servos, AND an ignition
system), and helicopters (fairly noisy environment) all without ever a
problem.
I've never used a choke, capacitor, resistor, or otherwise done anything
Orange County, CA parks also prohibit any kind of radio control
aircraft. Most times you do not get hassled for it, but any place that
has a sign has it posted as such. I have been run out of various parks
on occasion and on those times I was using a bungee to launch open class
gliders (in
Try the local sign shops and their suppliers. That stuff is often used
for signs and I have gotten 4 by 8 sheets from a sign supply store out
here in SOCAL before.
S Meyer wrote:
Was wondering where is the best source for coroplast or corrugated
plastic sheets?
Chicago area... Lowes, Home
S Meyer wrote:
LOL
Daryl is anxious to start practicing. :-)
Actually he needs to know the exact start date and time so he can plan
what time to show up at the field so he can get a quick fast charge on
the plane before the first launch. The plane has very likely NOT been
charged since
Douglas, Brent wrote:
Has anyone here ever set up a redundant battery and switch for a scale
ship?
Yes. Simple to do. Two packs (same cell count, capacity can be
different), two switches. Plug into any open RX port or use a Y if needed.
Was it worth the trouble?
Yes. given the cost of
September 22-24: LSF US Soaring Masters (more info to follow)
http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/events.htm
JR is sponsoring this new event. It will be held at the AMA site in
beautiful Muncie, IN.
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We'll probably be
Bill Swingle wrote:
I am curious. Does control line truly have a big enough following to
justify all the press it does get?
I'm doubtful.
Here's some numbers:
2005 NATS attendance:
RC Total = 433
Soaring = 151
Control Line = 223
Free Flight = 348
Makes you wonder why the Free Flight
Doug McLaren wrote:
(I'm pretty sure that Futaba already
sells industrial R/C equipment that uses spread spectrum, but I don't
know the specifics.)
Indeed they do:
http://www.futaba.com/products/irc/introduction/index.asp
There is no magic to this stuff and it is certainly not like the
Then I was given bad information which I repeated without confirming. My
Bad.
Bill
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In a message dated 2/24/2006 8:24:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Another little factoid about SS is that if you ever go out of range,
your link is
There is always the Futaba 14MZ. 12 fully proportional channels and two
digital ON/OFF channels.
Ailerons - 2
Rudder -1
Elevator - 1
Flaps - 2
Spoilers - 2
Retract - 1
Brake - 1
Tow release - 1
That's 11 channels leaving you 1 more proportional channel and 2 more
channels for water ballast or
The Hitec Spectra has probably had the
longest run/best chance for positive evolution. Now JR, Fut Mpx have
similar units, but relatively little consumer field experience.
Huh? Futaba came out with a synthesized module for the 9Z series of
radios long before Hitec had the Spectra
No disrespect to the futaba module, but the hitec spectra module existed
long before
the 9Z radio hit the market. I used the hitec module on my futaba 8uaf over
10 years
ago and on my hitec radio almost 20 years ago. I think futaba is relatively
new player
in the freq. module game by
I just exchanged emails with Steve Helms who is the head Futaba guy
(Futaba Corporation, not Hobbico) in the US and who has been in the RC
industry wince WAY back (all the way to Pro-Line back in the 70's). He
reminded me that in fact it was KRAFT who had the first synthesized
module back in
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industry wince WAY back (all the way to Pro-Line back in the 70's).
He may WINCE when he remembers how long it has been SINCE he got into
the industry!!.
I paid $330 for a 50channel radio in 1971.
After booth review it appears that this was only a FIVE channel
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There
used to be a bunch: Orbit, Kraft, Milcott, Ace, Heathkit, etc. Kraft as
long since gone the way of the other RC pioneering companies.
Don't forget Pro-Line. We built the first radio with dual rates back in
the mid-70's!!!
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Forgot EK. I had a red brick
I'm not sure when they got dual rates, but they may well have had the
first true proportional radio, although it had to be before the
early70's. I started flying RC in 1969 with a Cannon radio that was
fully proportional. Kraft was already an established
Here's a good thread with some great history and photos:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3678063/tm.htm
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Prolines were build in Athens, Alabama and was built from precision lab
quality electronics and Ron Chidgney's stick assembly. The control
sticks from the Proline Competition transmitters still have not been
equaled.
I worked for Pro-Line after they moved to Phoenix and just after Jim
Nor the 14MZ. Totally wireless connection. No dials, no nothing. All
electronic.
Dan Ahearn wrote:
...The other factor involved IS the dial a crash potential. ALL of the
current synth modules use the tiny dials, with tiny digits...
Not the Evo. interface via the LCD screen. You have to
Simon Van Leeuwen wrote:
Adequate, under competition conditions, allows you to safey see your
aircraft at maximum comfortable range consistently.
Can you please define for me exactly what ground range translates into
this airborne range?
For instance, if I get 75 feet of ground range
So if I understand you correctly, a ground range test has little, if
any, correlation to airborne range. If it did, then there would be an
empirical formula that would allow me to relate the two. But what I see
you saying is that each installation is unique and therefore you cannot
provide a
Here's about the best description I've ever seen.
http://www.torreypinesgulls.org/Radios.htm
Bill
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Hi All:
Been away a long time and see many, many changes ...
Can someone give me a quickie rundown of what a PCM radio is and compare
it to the AM and FM Tx's I am
Good advice. I always put a new battery in before an important contest.
I like to make sure the watch is running as fast as possible!
MORE POWER SCOTTY!!!
Paul Emerson wrote:
At the SWC I saw no less than three batteries go sour on 3 different
stopwatches (luckily only one was during a task).
Some feel that the Supra is just the 'flavor' of the month, but in fact
it isn't even ice cream.
Tip to tip, nose to tail, its different.
Seems to me that there should be a new Supra Class. Based on
everything I've read about this plane it just is not fair for it to
compete against the
Marta Zavala wrote:
Well this weeks SWC will be one of the molded Supras first test, lets
wait and see.
Walter
Well, based on the reports to date is there any reason to even show up??
I guess it will be fun to see which Supra takes it all. #42 or #41 or
might it be #17?? Can't wait!!
Walt W5SWA wrote:
Well #23 has about an hour on it. I would have more time on it but wind
and rain have kept me out of the air for a couple of weeks.
This is the second or third post by someone who has one of these new
Uber-Planes that is experiencing poor weather.
So my question is, what
amapmfg2003 wrote:
I would like info on a plane called son of savage
who made it
Mark Rebeck
who sold it
Mark Rebeck
it is 60 sloper full flying stab on lg vert fin reported to have E205
airfoil .
It was very popular here in South OC, where Mark lives, in the early
90's. It was
Marc Gellart wrote:
Steve,
Do you read AMA's Model Aviation? There was an article showing Steve
Kaluf flying a big aero ship with the radio and talks about the fact that no one needs
pins with it and that it would not cause problems at the normal flying field. Not sure
which issue,
Good advice. Of course my post was only dealing with the AMA position on
this new technology. I thought that a post directly from the AMA
Technical Director was an appropriate manner in which to do that.
Bill
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Before we witness more misinformation (like on E-Zone) about
I have been very pleased with the prices, product and service at No BS
Batteries:
http://www.hangtimes.com
WEM
Norman E. Timbs, Jr. wrote:
Where do you recommend buying Nicads and NiMH cells and packs these days?
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Daryl Perkins wrote:
I'm sorry... but I feel the things should be
disallowed in competition...
I think you're just jealous that these guys can fly AND listen to the
Picolario at the same time. I've even seen some of them walking at the
same time!! I would have to hold my breath to do
Will there be a listing soon on the CASL site showing entries,
frequencies, etc??
George Joy wrote:
Hello All,
The CASL Club has opened sign ups for all 3 classes at the SWC.
Those of you who have been asking can now get in all classes, get
those cards and letters in.
We will
Never mind - I see the listing now!!! Last I looked it was not there (a
few days ago).
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Daryl.
I've got 5 plus hours on the Supra and.
You know I wish you guys would let some of the experts handle this one!!!
Jeez. The Internet!! Give a guy a keyboard and Internet access and you
see what happens!!
WEM
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Barry is a very intelligent guy so likely forgot to mention that he's
got a voltage regulator between his 5 cells and the system to protect
things.
A voltage regulator insures that your digital servos and RX don't get
too much of a good thing,
Every digital
Feb 11 12.
The CASL folks are working on the website right now and should have it
updated very soon.
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What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site
doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I
don't
Has the family filed a missing persons report with the police?/ Seems
like it is time to get help!!
glider guider wrote:
As of Monday morning there is no news. A private investigator has
entered the picture.
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Remember John that sadly the RC world and AMA world is much bigger than
soaring alone. I agree that soaring pilots in general seem to compete
more than our powered brethren. But at the power clubs I belong to it is
a tiny group that competes. My local power club has 475 members.
Something
George L Meyers wrote:
The acquisition program was started 10-15 years ago in California but,
it never came to about. I don't know definitely why.
The District X Regional Flying Site proposed for Visalia, CA died due to
environmental concerns on the part of Fish and Wildlife. Seems that
But that pilot did a damn good job, you can't berate that fact.
For the love of God, it was a JOKE! Of course he did an amazing job.
WEM
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ROBERT M GELLART wrote:
I have been surprised that no one has said anything about the very good
airmanship that the Jet Blue crew did
BS, he was clearly nearly 6 inches left of the centerline. Big deal.
Plus, look at the damage he did to the nose gear!! And don't get me
started on how
Dudley Dufort wrote:
I'm sure that everyone has Visalia on their minds right now ..
What's going on in Visalia Where is it???
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Darwin N. Barrie wrote:
WORLD SERIES OF SOARING
By committee lets select 15 from the Left, 15 from the Right.
Mississippi River is the divider.
Just a thought, but if you're going to call it the WORLD SERIES of
anything, shouldn't we invite the rest of the world to play?? Otherwise
we
John Diniz wrote:
but here are the facts regarding the new Airtronics servo vs the JR DS368
Torque: with 4-cell pack
Air=37.1 oz/in, JR=53 oz/in
Speed: with 4-cell pack
Air=.18sec/60 degrees, JR=.21sec/60 degrees
Size:
Air=.48 x 1.07 x 1.11, JR=.50 x 1.12 x 1.17
Weight:
Air=.78oz,
And has 70% LESS torque
That SHOULD read: Has 70% OF the torque. NOT less. Sorry
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Anyone have an email for Andy?? Not sure if he is on the exchange.
Please email privately.
Thanks
Bill
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This is indeed awful news. While I did not know Mark as well as others,
I did know him and his love of flying. He sent me some pics of his ASW
just after he got it.
What can I say? We lost one of the good guys!!
Quiet Man wrote:
Mark Navarre died Sunday when his ASW-20 impacted terrain on
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because its getting too hard for me to get wood these days
This is clearly a personal problem that is NOT suited to this forum!
There are drugs to help with this as well, just watch some TV and you'll
see.
WEM
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Joedy Drulia wrote:
Another 'good' thing about EVERYBODY at the field using a 14MZ,
there'd be a lot fewer guys at the field, and a lot less interferrence!
BUT, I'm envious. Sounds like the radio everyone needs. How long
before the other manufacturers catch up?
Bill,
It is hardly the
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He lands. Checks his (synthesizer) module. You guessed it, he WAS on 39 and NOT
43.
I NEVER said it was a synthesized module. In fact, it was NOT. He had
changed modules and forgot he had done it. In fact he had flown like
Chuck Anderson wrote:
Far too many fliers are too stupid to be trusted with a dial-a-crash
radio. They aren't even smart enough to know what frequency they are on
without a synthesizer.
As was the case in the incident I outlined. It was NOT a synthesized
module. It was a regular old
Well limitations or not, mine saved a plane today. At my power field
there was a guy in the air. He was pinned up on 43. There were only 3 of
us at the field. My cheap-O channel checker showed only channel 39 lit
up. I'm on 18, so no worries.
But I'm sitting there and the third guy at the
Take an old set of earphones for a Walkman or iPod. The plug is a
mini-stereo plug. Plugs right in. I have a 36-inch antenna now on mine.
Close enough for gubber-mint work.
WEM
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Sorry, I am NOT an AMA columnist, or any other kind of columnist. Just
another whack job with a computer and an Internet connection!!
Bill
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/Take an old set of earphones for a Walkman or iPod. The plug is a
mini-stereo plug. Plugs right in. I have a 36-inch antenna now
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I get can't get in to the assembly instructions on the Kennedy Composites
website to access the AVA center of gravity.
Does anyone care to share the AVA C of G with us this evening ?
400 mm or 4 inches. It downloaded okay for me.
for anyone that doesn't have an
Evo with the Scanner unit which would probably be most of the market.
And why doesn't the legion of Multiplex lovers EVER ask themselves why
this is so???
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Basically if I cannot use parallel switches I will not use them at all.
So most of my gliders I just plug the pack directly into the RX without
a switch. On my giant scale aerobatics planes, and anything else large
enough, I run dual pack through 2 switches into the RX.
I still maintain that
$67.50 is HARDLY more than $100.
I got the price from the Pelican web page for a case very similar in
size to the aluminum cases we've been discussing. Actually it was $107,
but I rounded it down.
http://www.cases4less.com $67.50. Sorry if I offended anyone. I like
these cases and have
Right. I have absolutely no doubts that they are good. A plastic case
full of foam rubber that costs over $100 had jolly well better be good.
$67.50 is HARDLY more than $100. Plus to call a Pelican case a plastic
case is like calling a Ferrari a car.
I have a $2,300 TX, so the $67 doesn't
If you think your TX is worth 67 to protect, go here:
http://www.all-pelican-cases-4-less.com/detail_pelican_1450.html
These cases are waterproof, tough as hell, and will afford you the
ultimate in protection. I have 4 of them, one for each of my TX's (9303,
9Z, 14MZ) and one for my assortment
A friend of mine did exactly this with a JR 8103. He charged it up, and
it looked OK. 8 minutes into his first flight with a 33% Edge with a
DA100 on it he went into failsafe and crashed into a big lake at the
site. Total loss of the plane.
Batteries are cheap. Spend $30 and get a bigger NiMH
Jim Laurel wrote:
James,
Actually, sailplanes can draw quite a bit of power, especially 6ch
planes with digital servos. I have long been convinced that the reason
for many crashes is due to catastrophic voltage drop-offs caused by high
current loads.
FWIW I have calculated that my average
The modern digital servos can draw more than 1 amp at stall.
George, you are confusing stalled with fully deflected under load. The
JR 368 has a full stall current of 1 or 1.1 amps. Can't pull more than
that or it will fry. The flaps are NOT stalled when loaded under full
deflection, and
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