RE: New topic, Foam Pit (Topic 2 Dead end sprinkler distance increase)

2009-01-27 Thread George Church
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: New topic,Foam Pit (Topic 2 Dead end sprinkler distance increase) We have a Gymnastics' training center in a OH II sprinkler facility. They have mats on the walls, and a 5'-0 deep Foam filled Pit at the end of a tumbling run out for spring board and vaulting

RE: New topic

2008-08-07 Thread Russell
Ken, that table was suggested in earlier post on the subject and I have taken it into consideration. Thanks for taking the time to offer the info. Russell Rewis Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc. 107C Hemlock Street Valdosta, Georgia 31601 229-244-8130 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Table 8.6.2.2.1(d) of the

RE: New topic

2008-08-06 Thread Russell
I agree and that's the approach I've always taken. Hydraulic calculations are one of the many deciding factors for me. I've learned closer spacing allows smaller pipe sizes, to a point of course. The rub for him is that 13 has segregated storage from the rest. He didn't question it when 231 and

RE: New topic

2008-08-06 Thread Craig.Prahl
, August 06, 2008 8:12 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: New topic I agree and that's the approach I've always taken. Hydraulic calculations are one of the many deciding factors for me. I've learned closer spacing allows smaller pipe sizes, to a point of course. The rub for him

Re: New topic Round 2

2008-08-06 Thread Roland Huggins
Also add Table 8.8.2.1.2 for Extended Coverage for Storage Here's a related wrinkle. Well actual the text says High PIled storage which is defined as storage greater than 12 ft high. What about Group A plastic greater than 5 ft (which falls in full storage vs Class I-IV going to Chap 13

RE: New topic Round 2

2008-08-06 Thread Ray Vance
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:59 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: New topic Round 2 Also add Table 8.8.2.1.2 for Extended Coverage for Storage Here's a related wrinkle. Well actual the text says High PIled storage

RE: New topic Round 2

2008-08-06 Thread Russell
Okay, thanks, I'll add that table to the list. The vs part is where it gets fuzzy. Russell Rewis Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc. 107C Hemlock Street Valdosta, Georgia 31601 229-244-8130 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also add Table 8.8.2.1.2 for Extended Coverage for Storage Here's a related wrinkle.

Re: New topic Round 2

2008-08-06 Thread Roland Huggins
The reasonable and obvious action is to follow the same maximum area as driven by the density BUT the amusing part is that there was no actual guidance. This is a legacy from the old days when high piled had intended meaning. This was fixed at the recent ROP meeting. Roland On Aug 6,

RE: New topic Round 2

2008-08-06 Thread Russell
Yeah, I'm an 'old day kinda guy and that's why the calc's. have always been a big part of my decision tree. Russell Rewis Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc. 107C Hemlock Street Valdosta, Georgia 31601 229-244-8130 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reasonable and obvious action is to follow the same

Re: New topic

2008-08-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Russell, Table 8.6.2.2.1(d) of the '07 indicates that for storage applications with densities 0.25, the maximum coverage area is 100 square feet, and the maximum spacing is 12'. The same table advises that if the density is 0.25, the maximum coverage area is 130 square feet, and the

RE: New topic

2008-08-05 Thread Craig.Prahl
You need to provide a bit more info. When dealing with storage occupancies you need to clarify what is being stored, how it's being stored (racks, shelves, bins, on floor, pallets), in what type of container (box, crate, tote, jars, etc.), encapsulated, heights of said commodities, etc. Once

RE: New topic

2008-08-05 Thread Joe Burtell
Table 8.6.2.2.1 (d) of the 02' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:21 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: New topic Okay here's one. Please someone direct me to the text that states the

RE: New topic

2008-08-05 Thread George Church
I thought you were going to reply it's a spec warehouse How bout them Mets? glc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Burtell Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:43 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: New topic Table

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2008-08-05 Thread Russell
Geez, I sure am having a big problem finding things lately. Just another sign of senility. Looks like maybe it's the nervous hospital for me. Thanks a bunch Joe. Russell Rewis Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc. 107C Hemlock Street Valdosta, Georgia 31601 229-244-8130 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: New topic

2008-08-05 Thread Russell
Well, classifying the stored item only gives me the Class 1 ,2, etc. but I do not see anywhere that the class is associated with a particular sprk. s.f. like Class 1, with double row racks less than twenty feet high, non-encapsulated, no in-rack sprk. I don't have a specific project but rather an

RE: New topic

2008-08-05 Thread Craig.Prahl
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:16 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: New topic Well, classifying the stored item only gives me the Class 1 ,2, etc. but I do not see anywhere that the class is associated with a particular sprk. s.f. like

RE: New topic

2008-08-05 Thread Fletcher, Ron
Try 8.6.2.2.1(c) '07 Ed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:16 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: New topic Well, classifying the stored item only gives me the Class 1 ,2, etc. but I