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I don't believe there is anything other than when the smoke is close enough
to cause an obstruction to the spray pattern.
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Print2CAD converter. I haven't tried the DWF to DWG but the PDF to DWG
works well on a native PDF file.
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> I know this topic has come up in the past
I am looking for a motor operated valve controller to automaitically fill a
water tank. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Yes. We had one last year. I think it was a blow off valve for the steam
that failed, not positive since we were not around when that part was fixed.
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What hazard would you classify a Sauna? Light or Ordinary Hazard?
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Well unfortunately the drawing does say stage and the area is approx. 1600
sqft.
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I think that is the direction we are leaning to soften the blow to the egos.
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considered light hazard?
If the storage is outside of the residential area would it be classified as
ordinary hazard if it we storage for the residents?
Thanks in advance for the help.
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it is a designated area in the building for residents to store belongings
not in the units themselves.
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Does anyone have a current NFPA 25 inspection form? I see the AFSA has a
2002 and 2008 version. Is there anything out there for the 2011 or 2014.
Thanks
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was correct and
that I really shouldn't be installing antifreeze systems, at least not with
what freeze point solutions are currently available.
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Are antifreeze systems allowed to be installed.
I was understood that no one was making an approved antifreeze. Am I wrong?
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Which product can be used?
On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Forest Wilson forest_wil...@aol.com wrote:
Yes.
They are allowed
I installed one a few months ago
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wrote:
Are antifreeze systems
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Which
taken up by the ducts and other piping. Based on what is know
about the duct work location it looks like I would not be able to get heads
above the ducts.
Am I thinking correctly to protect under the ducts but above the ceiling?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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be appreciated.
I understand that every situation is unique but there is value in a review
of other designs to provide a new perspective that can be used for future
projects.
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What is the hazard classification for a grocery store? This is not a
Wal-Mart but a rather a 25,000 sqft local food store.
Thanks
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Thanks.
That is what I thought but I wanted to make sure I had it correct.
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Cecil- thanks, I just over looked it when I was reading. Maybe time to get
the checked.
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Art,
I would agree with your words of caution on the storage. Fortunately one
this one storage above 8' is not an issue.
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Can an extra hazard storage facility be protected by a gas system or dry
chemical system?
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The project is a Class IC
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The project is a Class IC storage facility storing lampricide in 5 gallon
containers with rack
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Can an extra hazard storage facility be protected by a gas system or dry
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. Do I
determine the working pressure from the static or residual pressure when
determining if the working pressure is over the 100 PSI requirement to
require hangers at a maximum of 12
Thanks in advance for any comments
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Subject: Re: Hanger Requirement
Static or Residual pressure...whichever is greater per *9.2.3.4.4.1*
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Craig Leadbetter
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I am working on a building that has a static pressure of 80 PSI and a
residual pressure of 50 PSI
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I am working on a building that has a static pressure of 80 PSI and a
residual pressure of 50 PSI. The building has a fire pump rated
This sound like a good question to be answered not only by the AHJ, but the
owner and their insurance carrier since it is their money that is on the
line.
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today that ultimately there are building being built that may not be as
safe as they could be as still save the owner money in the long run.
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times not only in the
commercial work but also in the design of schools as well. Personally I
would rather see the school have a sprinkler system that an exit out of
each classroom where the student may be able to escape a fire in the
building.
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PO Box 116
they are not
going to get the call on the next project.
I would certainly think that the Engineer of Record for the project should
have more to say about the products that are installed than the GC would.
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Thanks.
That is what i was looking for.
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On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Steve Mackinnon ste...@hartcorn.comwrote:
Look at table
I would like a copy if you are willing to share.
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Todd Williams t...@fpdc.com wrote:
Same here
I am working on a grocery store and they will be utilizing rack storage
less than 20'. I have no information on the stored commodity, I am looking
for direction on what classification of commodity others have used as a
basis of design.
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That was my line of thinking. I just wanted to see if anyone thought I was
off based.
No else who is bidding this project has asked the question and it a design
build so i want to make sure i have my bases covered.
Any other thoughts on this would also be appreciated.
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We have a situation where a vic coupling was covered by a wall/soffit for
aesthetics. The engineer is questioning whether a vic coupling can be in a
wall that is not a chase. I am looking for input.
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Eric,
Your example of the accessibility of the fitting being the same as if it
were above a dry wall was the same argument that I used. I was just trying
to verify that I am not missing something.
Thanks
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Test
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I have a yard post FDC with underground piping. We are going to use
galvanized pipe so i am looking for a product that can be used to protect
the pipe per code for a tar based protective coating.
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Thanks.
I haven't found any products that I am sure will meet the NFPA 13 10.1.3.
The commentary talks about AWWA C203 standard. What I have found so far
doesn't list this as the standard the the products meet.
Maybe I am making it more complicated than it needs to be.
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Are dry pendent heads required in an antifreeze system that had drop pendent
heads?
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Is there not potential for the anti-freeze solution to become diluted over the
years? Even if the system is drained and the antifreeze mixture recalibrated
the antifreeze in the drops is not affected.
Craig Leadbetter
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(Cell
Thanks Ron!!
Obviously i am over thinking today.
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At 12:26 PM 10/20/2010, you wrote:
What happens in solution stays in solution.
On Wed, Oct 20
Thanks!!
At 06:40 PM 7/20/2010, you wrote:
NFPA #45 6.2.1.1
On 7/20/2010 4:44 PM, Craig Leadbetter wrote:
A few weeks ago there was discussion about a computer lab being classified
(erroneously) as Ordinary Hazard. There was discussion about the
classification of labs in general. I am
Lamar,
Not to confuse the issue, the original post was about a computer lab and the
discussion turned the word lab as you have suggested. My question was
actually about a science lab classification which has been answered.
Thanks
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A few weeks ago there was discussion about a computer lab being classified
(erroneously) as Ordinary Hazard. There was discussion about the classification
of labs in general. I am looking for the code reference that indicates that a
science lab would be ordinary hazard.
Thanks
Craig
Are there any restrictions on the use of 4.6K and 2.8k heads. Are there any
special design issues I need to be aware of when using these heads?
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Are there any restrictions on the use of 4.6K
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Are there any restrictions on the use
Is there any specific requirement in the Code for the use of dry pendent heads
in an antifreeze system?
If a regular head with a drop is used would the antifreeze in the drop degrade
over time?
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nfpa 13, 25 and since this is a labourious (messy) action, I
believe required once a year, if at all possible I would install dry
pendentsis the pipe subject to freezing..; what r u doing?
On 4/24/10, Craig Leadbetter cleadbetter.l...@chartermi.net wrote:
Is there any specific requirement
The requirement for the backflow to be installed by a master plumber is also
used in Michigan. the scary part about that is that most of the plumbers don't
understand backflow for fire protection and have a fear of touching the system.
At 03:02 PM 3/31/2010, you wrote:
Yesterday I received
We have a p[roject where we are using extended coverage sprinkler heads in a
light hazard corridor. What is the least number of heads we would be able to
use in our calculation?
Craig Leadbetter
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Thanks. This looks like a good resource to have in our library of books.
At 01:21 AM 2/19/2010, you wrote:
Craig:
I'd go with the well considered checklists by Mike Thrapp, of Oregon, sold by
ICC .
http://www.iccsafe.org/Store/Pages/Product.aspx?category=940cat=ICCSafeid=4408X06
table
Has anyone shared this info yet? I would be interested if someone wants to
share.
thanks
Craig Leadbetter
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At 10:30 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote:
Does anyone have written fire pump test procedures that they'd
it in house with
sprinkler fitters or is the done by a specialty company?
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George,
The State of Michigan Office of Fire Safety is still using the 1996 code.
Change is a hard sell.
George Church for...@ptd.net wrote:
Well, I understand the state of Michigan decided it couldn't afford the
safety of a new code adoption, must be they can't afford a fire marshal
A review of Tycos sprinkler application chart show that the 2.8K and
4.2K heads are only shown for light hazard use.
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the water new water line in place outside
of the building.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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The link doesn't work.
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Come to the State of Michigan. The head would be required in this
closet.
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inside.
2. Wardrobes over 36 cubic feet shall be protected by placing a
sprinkler head in side.
3. Wardrobes 36 cubic feet and under shall be protected by placing a
sprinkler head inside or placing a sprinkler head
within 3 feet directly in front of the wardrobe.
Craig Leadbetter
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in the subject field)
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I looked at it. It seems to do a nice job on the conversion.
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Yes! That would be great!
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