Just visited the new front page. I like it a lot.
But one of the crown jewel features (at least to me) is buried in the
fine print: Virtual Tables. Is this an oversight? I would at least
put a blurb on the Features or Distinctive Features page unless there's
a motivation not to do so
The latest sqlite page renders nicely on a wide screen and loads in
860mS on my machine and transfers a total of 16KB. It looks clean,
terse, uncluttered and business-like and free of trivia. Just the
presentation I relish when searching for information. Direct and to the
point.
Several
Some suggestions:
Under the SQL Language page, Split the page "expressions" into two, one
for the sql expressions and one for SQL functions. It was not immediately
obvious what sql functions were supported nor where to find them.
Spelling/Grammar Home Page: second to last paragraph
Jarl Friis wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I put up 4 variations. Please, everyone, offer your opinions:
(1) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v1/ No CSS of any kind.
(2) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v2/ CSS menus with rounded corners
(3) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v3/ CSS menus with
Reduce the size of the logo. The proposed combined size of the logo and
Navbar takes up too much of the page.
I like frames so that the Navbar is always visible. This is a real
convenience with long pages.
If you don't like frames then another alternative is to have the Navbar at
the top and
"Trevor Talbot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> (2) and (3) feel heavy/slow, and pulldown menus are irritating to
> navigate. They also do not render correctly with larger font sizes.
Agree, pulldown menus are irritating.
Jarl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I put up 4 variations. Please, everyone, offer your opinions:
>
>(1) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v1/ No CSS of any kind.
>(2) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v2/ CSS menus with rounded corners
>(3) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v3/ CSS menus with square corners
"A.J.Millan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Regarding the basic "look" of the site, we were considering
>> using a style similar to the once found at ActiveState
>>
>> http://www.activestate.com/
>>
>
> However the tendency in computers screen is wider than until
> now. Today the standard is
Hi,
As a developer who is new to SQLite, I'll say that my initial
experience with the web site was that it was very busy and
confusing. The available documentation seems to have a great deal of
useful content, but I think would be more useful if it were
organized, say into
: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:51 PM
To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
James Dennett wrote:
Joe Wilson wrote:
--- "Samuel R. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hope this doesn't offend, but perhaps the best solution
John Stanton wrote:
How about having adding a social networking capability so that
non-technical people will have a reason to use the website. You cannot
expect to attract them with a frugal and highly functional embedded
database library.
LOL!
- Richard
gt; Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
>
>
> James Dennett wrote:
> > Joe Wilson wrote:
> >
> >> --- "Samuel R. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> I hope this doesn't offend, but perhaps the best solution is to
ot looking for entertainment, just plain and simple
results.
Fred
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:25 PM
> To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
> Subject: RE: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
>
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"Mark Wyszomierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I put up 4 variations. Please, everyone, offer your opinions:
(1) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v1/ No CSS of any kind.
(2) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v2/ CSS menus with rounded corners
(3)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It takes time to get all popular browsers working, but it leaves a
good first impression with potential users of your software.
It seems like a better solution would be to do the website
without any CSS and then spend the days or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding the basic "look" of the site, we were considering
using a style similar to the once found at ActiveState
http://www.activestate.com/
However, as we started to prototype this, we wrote down a
very simple CSS/Javascript-free template and after looking
at it,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a new look up on the demo site at
http://sqlite.hwaci.com/
It looks good on Firefox and Safari, but IE6 renders
it incorrectly. Being entirely in the unix world now,
I am of a mind to ignore the IE6 problem and just let
lingering IE6 users see a goofed up
James Dennett wrote:
Joe Wilson wrote:
--- "Samuel R. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hope this doesn't offend, but perhaps the best solution is to
outsource
the website to someone or a company that specializes in websites and
design
(with your stated simplicity goals in mind of
--- P Kishor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/9/07, Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- James Dennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Joe Wilson wrote:
> > > > Also, non-technical people would be a better judge of which website
> > > > design is appealing.
> > >
> > > Appealing
--- James Dennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Wilson wrote:
> > Also, non-technical people would be a better judge of which website
> > design is appealing.
>
> Appealing *to* non-technical people? Why would a website on an embedded
> database wish to appeal primarily to such an audience?
Joe Wilson wrote:
> --- "Samuel R. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I hope this doesn't offend, but perhaps the best solution is to
> outsource
> > the website to someone or a company that specializes in websites and
> design
> > (with your stated simplicity goals in mind of course). We
--- "Samuel R. Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I hope this doesn't offend, but perhaps the best solution is to outsource
> the website to someone or a company that specializes in websites and design
> (with your stated simplicity goals in mind of course). We certainly
> wouldn't want a
On 11/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I put up 4 variations. Please, everyone, offer your opinions:
>
>(1) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v1/ No CSS of any kind.
>(2) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v2/ CSS menus with rounded corners
>(3) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v3/
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Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It takes time to get all popular browsers working, but it leaves a
> good f
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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:51 PM
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To spend time working around IE deficiencies is rather futile when a
simple fix exists for a
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> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:30 PM
> > To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
> > Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
> >
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I put up 4 variations. Please, everyone, offer your opinions:
>
--- John Stanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Wilson wrote:
> >>(3) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v3/ CSS menus with square corners
> >
> > In Firefox 2.0.0.8, press "CTRL +" a couple of times to see the render
> > problem. If I press "CTRL -" it renders properly.
> >
> > On larger
enior Engineer, MPR Associates, 518.831.7546
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From: John Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:51 PM
To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
To spend time working around IE deficiencies is rather fu
Joe Wilson wrote:
(3) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v3/ CSS menus with square corners
In Firefox 2.0.0.8, press "CTRL +" a couple of times to see the render
problem. If I press "CTRL -" it renders properly.
On larger screen resoltions, sometimes the default fonts are a bit bigger
than
November 09, 2007 1:30 PM
> To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I put up 4 variations. Please, everyone, offer your opinions:
> >
> >(1) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v1/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 09/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is indeed a sad commentary on the state of the
world wide web that it is now necessary to specify
a font on every web page Oh well.
What's about CSS? It should
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The font change to
font-family: "Verdana" "sans-serif";
makes a huge difference - much more professional looking.
This is indeed a sad commentary on the state of the
world wide web that it is now necessary to specify
a font
Joe Wilson wrote:
>
> --- James Dennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Joe Wilson wrote:
> > > No need to say it's stable or recommended - it's assumed.
Otherwise it
> > > wouldn't appear on the home page.
> >
> > I disagree. 3.5.0 appeared, even though discussion was that it was
> >
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I put up 4 variations. Please, everyone, offer your opinions:
>
>(1) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v1/ No CSS of any kind.
>(2) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v2/ CSS menus with rounded corners
>(3) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v3/ CSS menus with square
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't think the extra bandwidth is an issue. Dan points out that
> if you put the CSS in a separate file, then sometimes a browser
> will render the page without CSS, then when the CSS arrives a
> fraction of a second later, everything shifts.
That's not the case
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 10:27:21 AM
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You chose to embed the CSS settings on each page to avoid the round
> trip to the web server. You can always put the css i
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>(1) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v1/ No CSS of any kind.
>(2) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v2/ CSS menus with rounded corners
>(3) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v3/ CSS menus with square corners
>(4) http://sqlite.hwaci.com/v4/ CSS font specification
--- James Dennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe Wilson wrote:
> > No need to say it's stable or recommended - it's assumed. Otherwise it
> > wouldn't appear on the home page.
>
> I disagree. 3.5.0 appeared, even though discussion was that it was
> relatively experimental. It's *good* to be
I think 4 looks great,
Mark
On Nov 9, 2007 1:45 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mark Wyszomierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Not a terribly useful comment but was just glancing through the new
> > look and noticed a typo:
> >
> > http://sqlite.hwaci.com/about.html
> >
> > "We believe
I'd echo the suggestion for making the directions for import/export more
prominent (which may mean simply linked from multiple places).
Perhaps I'd also suggest linked to the command-line tool information
from several places, maybe including the SYNTAX area. Newcomers seem
to be able to miss
I vote for (4).
---
Marco Bambini
http://www.sqlabs.net
http://www.sqlabs.net/blog/
http://www.sqlabs.net/realsqlserver/
On Nov 9, 2007, at 7:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"Mark Wyszomierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not a terribly useful comment but was just glancing through the new
-users@sqlite.org
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
"Mark Wyszomierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not a terribly useful comment but was just glancing through the new
> look and noticed a typo:
>
> http://sqlite.hwaci.com/about.html
&
Another solution is to design your css for standard browser and then
just create a iefixes.css file to load only in IE that contains the
various fixes for that browser.
The trick is to add that lines in the head section:
---
Marco Bambini
http://www.sqlabs.net
http://www.sqlabs.net/blog/
That looks fantastic (in firefox).
Ron Wilson, Senior Engineer, MPR Associates, 518.831.7546
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:11 PM
To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite
> I don't think the extra bandwidth is an issue. Dan points out that
> if you put the CSS in a separate file, then sometimes a browser
> will render the page without CSS, then when the CSS arrives a
> fraction of a second later, everything shifts. I'd rather avoid
> that.
>
> I am now also told
"Mark Wyszomierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not a terribly useful comment but was just glancing through the new
> look and noticed a typo:
>
> http://sqlite.hwaci.com/about.html
>
> "We believe that General Electric uses SQLite in some product or
> another because they twice wrote the to
drh wrote:
> There is a new look up on the demo site at
>
>http://sqlite.hwaci.com/
It does look much "prettier" than the current live site.
I note the common "affect"/"effect" typo in the sentence
"There are no known issues effecting database integrity
or correctness.", where this should
Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It takes time to get all popular browsers working, but it leaves a
> good first impression with potential users of your software.
>
It seems like a better solution would be to do the website
without any CSS and then spend the days or weeks of
Not a terribly useful comment but was just glancing through the new
look and noticed a typo:
http://sqlite.hwaci.com/about.html
"We believe that General Electric uses SQLite in some product or
another because they twice wrote the to SQLite developers "..
"wrote the to "
On Nov 9, 2007
Joe Wilson wrote:
> No need to say it's stable or recommended - it's assumed. Otherwise it
> wouldn't appear on the home page.
I disagree. 3.5.0 appeared, even though discussion was that it was
relatively experimental. It's *good* to be explicit about this.
-- James
Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You chose to embed the CSS settings on each page to avoid the round
> trip to the web server. You can always put the css info in a separate
> file, and define it only once for the entire site. It should reduce
> the number of bytes sent over the wire.
>
> There is a new look up on the demo site at
>
>http://sqlite.hwaci.com/
>
> It looks good on Firefox and Safari, but IE6 renders
> it incorrectly. Being entirely in the unix world now,
> I am of a mind to ignore the IE6 problem and just let
> lingering IE6 users see a goofed up display. I
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There is a new look up on the demo site at
>
>http://sqlite.hwaci.com/
>
> It looks good on Firefox and Safari, but IE6 renders
The 'T' in 'SUPPORT' in the horizontal toolbar is cut off in my Linux
Firefox 2.0.0.8 browser. I have a screen resolution of
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The font change to
> >
> > font-family: "Verdana" "sans-serif";
> >
> > makes a huge difference - much more professional looking.
> >
>
> This is indeed a sad commentary on the state of the
> world wide web that it is
bash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 09/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is indeed a sad commentary on the state of the
> > world wide web that it is now necessary to specify
> > a font on every web page Oh well.
>
>
> What's about CSS? It should help in
]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:47 PM
To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
Joe Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The font change to
>
> font-family: "Verdana" "sans-serif";
>
> makes a huge di
--- bash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am owner of web site with ~ 15k uniq visitors/day and I can say this
> is not really true.
> For example this is statistics from google analytics:
> 1.1024x76842.51%
> 2.1280x1024 27.73%
> 3.1280x80010.43%
> 4.1152x864
On 09/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is indeed a sad commentary on the state of the
> world wide web that it is now necessary to specify
> a font on every web page Oh well.
What's about CSS? It should help in this case.
--
Biomechanica Artificial
On 09/11/2007, A.J.Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Regarding the basic "look" of the site, we were considering
> > using a style similar to the once found at ActiveState
> >
> > http://www.activestate.com/
> >
>
> However the tendency in computers screen is wider than until now. Today
Regarding the basic "look" of the site, we were considering
using a style similar to the once found at ActiveState
http://www.activestate.com/
However the tendency in computers screen is wider than until now. Today the
standard is about 1440 pixels x 900, so a unique horizontal arrange y
The font change to
font-family: "Verdana" "sans-serif";
makes a huge difference - much more professional looking.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A rough prototype of what a revised website might look like
> can be seen at
>
> http://sqlite.hwaci.com/
>
> Please continue to provide feedback.
>
Assuming the build process is fairly automated and not too onerous to
implement I would like to see 'nightlys/weeklys' source and precompiled
binaries of SQLite. I would imagine like me, many of us are behind
company firewalls with no facility for
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A rough prototype of what a revised website might look like
> can be seen at
>
> http://sqlite.hwaci.com/
Instead of:
Current Status
As of 2007-11-05 20:49:21 UTC, version 3.5.2 of SQLite is stable.
There are no known issues effecting database
On Nov 9, 2007 3:11 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://sqlite.hwaci.com/
i like it! i like it so much, in fact, that i'll probably buy the software! ;)
> happy with the content of the homepage. (Suggestions for
> what should appear on the homepage are welcomed.)
a) What is sqlite? (A
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks, everybody, for the excellent feedback and suggestions
for revising the SQLite website. Please keep the comments
coming.
Regarding the basic "look" of the site, we were considering
using a style similar to the once found at ActiveState
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A rough prototype of what a revised website might look like
can be seen at
http://sqlite.hwaci.com/
Short, simple, and sweet. I like it.
My only specific comment was going to be a request to make the page for
datatypes easy to find. Until I made it a book
it),
but please do keep the concise summary somewhere.
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:11 AM
> To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
> Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
>
&
Thanks, everybody, for the excellent feedback and suggestions
for revising the SQLite website. Please keep the comments
coming.
Regarding the basic "look" of the site, we were considering
using a style similar to the once found at ActiveState
http://www.activestate.com/
However, as we
In general I'm agree with Kishor comments, specially those related to the
ability to include comments to the documentation pages and the need of
*more* examples.
I recognize that the present design has its charm (those of a Web site made
by an engineer) but I recognize that has found some
The documentation page is too scattered, and needs to be categorized:
short bits, like the intro and features lists; reference material,
like the SQL syntax and API pages; and detailed discussion, like the
locking methods and the like.
I echo P Kishor's comment that the date/time functions need
I think the documentation section needs to be organized. I count over
two dozen links in a simple list with no apparent organization. Some
(like "copyright") might be best under some other heading, like
downloading. Some are minor topics, or of transient interest, such as
moving from 3.4 to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are looking at renovating the design of the SQLite
website and would love to have suggestions from the
community. If you have any ideas on how to improve
the SQLite website, please constribute either to the
mailing list or directly to me.
o The 'contrib' section
Hi Richard,
I might be in a minority on this list for suggesting that the SQLite
website could indeed become more helpful and informative through a
redesign.
I am not suggesting that the redesign necessarily be focused on
attractiveness, although, there can be some correlation in ease of use
and
I'm new to this list and to the SQLite website, so my feedback is more of
the "first impression" kind. And that impression is: the site is ok. It is
clear, simple, with almost anything I need reachable through one or two
clicks. The things I would probably do is place a google search field
What could be interesting is a listing of all the ways SQLite is used and
for users to upload their
details with a number of fixed fields like:
short description, size of database, number of users,
commercial/non-commercial, platform/OS, programming language, wrapper,
satisfaction with the
Rich Shepard wrote:
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Stephan Beal wrote:
google code award implies that it's free (doesn't it?)
Only to people not used to open source. "Release early, release often."
Definitely not. Its simplicity is its main beauty.
Stephan,
Good comments from your point of
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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:47 AM
To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
Subject: Re: [sqlite] Suggests for improving the SQLite website
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Stephan Beal wrote:
> google code award implies that it's free (doesn't it?)
> Only to people not used to open source. "Re
I love the website. Suggested improvements:
- link to the users site from home:
http://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users@sqlite.org/info.html
- a publicity page that contains links to interviews, reviews, etc.
- expand the list of things that cannot be done with virtual tables (it
lists triggers
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Stephan Beal wrote:
google code award implies that it's free (doesn't it?)
Only to people not used to open source. "Release early, release often."
Definitely not. Its simplicity is its main beauty.
Stephan,
Good comments from your point of view. However, what the
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the SQLite website, please constribute either to the
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We are looking at renovating the design of the SQLite
> website and would love to have suggestions from the
> community. If you have any ideas on how to improve
> the SQLite website, please constribute either to the
> mailing list or directly to me.
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> the SQLite website, please constribute either to the
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"Search" is missing on the main page. I always have to click around a
bit until a page with
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> the SQLite website, please constribute either to the
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