Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Upgrade Wifi - Mesh - Which one?

2018-02-23 Thread Grumpy Bob

Paul Webster wrote: 
> One alternative option to consider is using the wired power network ...
> e.g. via Homeplug.
> They usually give a local Ethernet connection and some also provide
> wifi.

I have set up a pair of Netgear powerline networking adapters, because
the WiFi card in my TV broke. That worked fine, but my amplifier was
picking up noise from the mains circuit. I ended up buying an power
socket strip with mains conditioner to stop that.

Robert



*Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9.1  with files on QNAP TS-239
Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega
Planar 3 > Rega Fono Mini; Naim CD3)
PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 
2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), spare
Pi2/piCorePlayer
*Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive >
piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier
SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread Mnyb

Pulling some Ethernet wires and buy some simple switches are not super
expensive , the pliers and kit to terminate cat cable is also cheap .

One major pint I had .

Is the server wired yet ?




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MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3
sub.
Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)
iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
(spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread drmatt

Same here. Wouldn't touch a"lifestyle" product if it was free, and have
yet to find something that compares to LMS for everything else. Pity it
is just that little bit too hard to setup to recommend to anyone who
isn't at least a bit techie.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread Jeff07971

drmatt wrote: 
> If you go all in, Sonos runs its own mesh and you bridge it with a
> cable.
> 
> Sonos are on the way out anyway.. lack of support for hi-res and lack of
> bit-perfect digital output is killing them in audiophile circles,  cost
> is killing them everywhere else.
> 
> 
> -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-

Yeah I realize that but I think we all know this is a networking issue
somewhere, even if he goes wired to the first Sonos he still has the
router in the mix (which maybe will still be the/a problem)

I've never been tempted by Sonos myself for lots of reasons Cost,
"locked in syndrome", Sound quality and lack of flexibility. In fact I
have trouble explaining the Squeezebox universe to my friends simply
because of the number of options you have with it !

Jeff



*Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLiteX,PiCorePlayer
x3,Wandboard
*Server:* LMS Version:  Latest Nightly on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U1 on
Dell T320
*Plugins:*
AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player
Groups
*Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLiteX
*Music:* 522GB,1660 albums with 23087 songs by 5204 artists mostly
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread drmatt

If you go all in, Sonos runs its own mesh and you bridge it with a
cable. I'm pretty sure Sonos are on the way out anyway.


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Debian+LMS 7.9.0
Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k
albums..

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread Jeff07971

drmatt wrote: 
> (Sonos runs its own mesh network.)
> 
> 
> -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-

To stream from the internet ?



*Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLiteX,PiCorePlayer
x3,Wandboard
*Server:* LMS Version:  Latest Nightly on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U1 on
Dell T320
*Plugins:*
AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player
Groups
*Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLiteX
*Music:* 522GB,1660 albums with 23087 songs by 5204 artists mostly
FLACs

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread drmatt

Jeff07971 wrote: 
> And put the Sonos on an unreliable WiFi ?(Sonos runs its own mesh network.)


-Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk-



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Upgrade Wifi - Mesh - Which one?

2018-02-23 Thread bernt

Get a Strong 1600. Works great for me in a large flat with concrete
walls.

I connected it to the router and turned of the WiFi in the router.

It’s a MESH access point but one works perfect for me.

It has AirPlay built in to so with the AirPlay plug-in you can use it as
a SB to. Haven’t tried it myself yet.


Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk



SB Touch to Hegel H90, Boston Acoustics A26.
SB 3 to Audio Pro T3.
AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro C5 and Hegel H90.
SB BOOM
SB Radio
ReadyNAS 202
iPeng

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread usc95

I too use a TPLink Archer C7 and find it to be an excellent router.  I
used to have frequent interruptions and inability to connect to the
server when I ran LMS on my Windows 7 then 8 then 10 PC.  Since I
switched to using a Raspberry Pi 3 running PicorePlayer I have had
basically zero issues.  The most difficult part for me was getting it to
see my music but once I sorted all of that out it has been running
perfectly for about a year now.  I have occasionally experienced some
buffering when playing back some internet radio streams but that could
very well be the radio station or brief slow downs in my internet
connection causing that problem.  In my setup my server that I use as a
player also and my primary living room player (an Rpi running
picoreplayer connected to a 7 inch touchscreen) are both wired but my
bedroom Radio and theater room Classic are wireless.  We have four
iPads, two iphones and a Kindle Fire that all connect wirelessly without
issues.  I am not a computer guy and can't speak for technical reasons
why but I believe that all of the bloat and background processes that
Windows machines are constantly running probably interferes with LMS
causing disruptions.  Before you go spending gobs of money on Sonos I
would at least try running LMS on an Rpi to see if your issues aren't
related to your Windows PC.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread bpa

Have you tried unplugging the SB1 to see if its 802.11b only is
affecting either network and in some cases LMS behaviour.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread Jeff07971

> Not ready to build a commercial network, it's cheaper to buy a Sonos
> system frankly.

And put the Sonos on an unreliable WiFi ?



*Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezeLiteX,PiCorePlayer
x3,Wandboard
*Server:* LMS Version:  Latest Nightly on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6.5.0U1 on
Dell T320
*Plugins:*
AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player
Groups
*Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLiteX
*Music:* 522GB,1660 albums with 23087 songs by 5204 artists mostly
FLACs

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread drmatt

Cheaper to build Sonos? Not likely. One Sonos box will cost you more
than a professional router, and I've found that reliable 2.4ghz wireless
G beats unreliable 300/900Mbit AC and N networks every day.

The time basis for these issues is classic cheap router syndrome, sorry
to say.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Web interface not working with latest Firefox 57?

2018-02-23 Thread copperstate

well, as cleaning the cache did not solve the problem, I have to assume
the skin settings are stored in the lms server settings.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-23 Thread HB64

digimaster wrote: 
> *
> After pointing to musicip and musicmagicserver, been playing around a
> bit with it.
> And it works on the QNap.
> But no idea how many want to use it, or how it is used in combination
> with LMS.\
> 
> So the question is, is there any intressed to add it to
> QLogitechMediaServer ?
> 
> Let me know, and maybe some more information ?*If I'm correct you are a dutch 
> fellow so am I, send  me a pm regarding
your questions then we can conversate in our native language.





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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Web interface not working with latest Firefox 57?

2018-02-23 Thread DJanGo

copperstate wrote: 
> I had the very same problem after switching to Firefox 57+. I managed to
> access the server settings via http://localhost:9000 instead of
> localhost:9000/settings/index.html? as suggested earlier. Following up
> on the hint to switch the skin used (from "classic" to "default" in my
> case) solved the problem. 
> 
> Everything runs fine now. :)

Hi,

if you use another link (you may not used) you always fetch the stuff
direct from the server not some oldish cache things.
Cleaning the cache or press [Strg/Ctrl] & [F5] in any Browser does the
same...



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] JSONRPC::requestMethod (443) request not dispatchable! ????????

2018-02-23 Thread dolodobendan

pippin wrote: 
> Yea, if you open the server settings :)
> It’s because it’s something you need there for WOL.
> I don’t know any specific use case for which a normal user will ever
> have to know the MAC of the player so I don’t want to confuse anybody by
> showing it all the time.
> The diagnostics menu in settings is a server supplied menu, I don’t
> think I can easily move that somewhere else, especially since the player
> info is in a submenu

That was the first place I looked. But I concur, that's no info you need
all the time.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Web interface not working with latest Firefox 57?

2018-02-23 Thread copperstate

mherger wrote: 
> > I had the same issue. It turns out the skin was the problem. You can
> > change this under the Interface tab in the server settings.
> 
> Which skin? And did you check the web console? I just tested all skins,
> 
> and they all work fine for me.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

I had the very same problem after switching to Firefox 57+. I managed to
access the server settings via http://localhost:9000 instead of
localhost:9000/settings/index.html? as suggested earlier. Following up
on the hint to switch the skin used (from "classic" to "default" in my
case) solved the problem. 

Everything runs fine now. :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread epoch1970

I think you mentioned something about a wireless bandwidth of 300mbps?

I would suggest to set the 2.4GHz band to wifi-g only (54mbps, 20MHz
channel width).
The SBs won't see the 5GHz band so you can set this one to wifi-n or
wifi-ac with channel bonding and all that.



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(linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa
• IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) • Server Power Control by Gordon
Harris • Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael
Herger • PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple • Song Info, Song Lyrics by
Erland Isaksson • AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 • WeatherTime by Martin
Rehfeld • Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread Boulderguy

Mnyb wrote: 
> 
> Get an even better router that can run two wi-fi networks one 5ghz ac
> and one 2.4 ghz you can dedicate to legacy stuff .
> Or maybe dedicated access pionts a mest network or whatnot .
> 
> What about router placement ( read up on that google is your friend )
> worst case it’s in one corner of the house meaning that 3/4 of its
> coverage is outside.
> 
> If one lives in a house with a whole family  not an apartment as i do .
> One should not expect a single consumer router to do the jobb .
The furthest SB is approx 20m away, that one shows >70% signal.  The
closest is about 2m.  They both experience the same problems.  This is a
dual-band router with 2.4 & 5gh plus a guest network.  Not ready to
build a commercial network, it's cheaper to buy a Sonos system frankly. 
I wouldn't know how to start anyway, way beyond my skill level.

Next step seems to be assigning IP's & other stuff statically.  I don't
know how to do that either.  IF there's a useful guide here someone can
point me to, great, otherwise I'll just start googling.

Thanks again guys.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread Boulderguy

gstalnaker wrote: 
> 
> When I first set all this up with the SB Classic and LMS on a Linux
> desktop years ago, I used WiFi on the SB Classic with an enet cable to
> the LMS desktop. But I had odd network behavior, like what you report.
> When I signed up for Uverse CableTV and the AT guy came to do the
> install I took the opportunity to explain this odd behavior. He said
> it's the AT Uverse modem!! For reasons he did not understand, the
> router software would terminate the DHCP lease for the SB Classic but
> not renew it, no matter what one tried to do. It wasn't WiFi signal, or
> anything like that (channel, signal strength, noise). The only solution
> was to power cycle the router. Gah!  That basically resets the entire
> DHCP lease cycling. Needless to say, as you confirm in your post, that
> is a right PITA. 
Interesting point.  I previously had Comcast-issued modems but about a
year ago purchased an aftermarket Arris Surfboard -
http://www.arris.com/surfboard/products/cable-modems/sb6190/

No change in the situation from one modem to the other.

After extensively re-booting the router yesterday (firmware update, etc)
everything is working 100%.  The real test is if it's still working a
week from now.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Upgrade Wifi - Mesh - Which one?

2018-02-23 Thread dunk

having struggled over the years with domestic wifi gear, i would
recommend looking at ubiquiti - ive not had to reboot an access point in
over 3 years now. its a little more expensive, but in terms of
reliability and convenience its hard to beat.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LogitechMediaServer for Qnap x86_64 with qts 4.2 or higher

2018-02-23 Thread digimaster

*
After pointing to musicip and musicmagicserver, been playing around a
bit with it.
And it works on the QNap.
But no idea how many want to use it, or how it is used in combination
with LMS.\

So the question is, is there any intressed to add it to
QLogitechMediaServer ?

Let me know, and maybe some more information ?*



*
maintainer of QLogitechMediaServer, QOptware-NG and QAutoSub.

Qnap TS-453a, with LogitechMediaSever 7.9.1 ( with spotty and youtube )
Serval raspberry with hifiberry amp+ and picoreplayer.
Love logitechmediaserver for it flexibel way, to play music from
different sources.*

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Problems getting squeezeplay to work remotely over ssh

2018-02-23 Thread PasTim

To summarise my solution I'd just like to note that it can all be
streamlined by combining the socat and ssh commands on the client side
into one script, and by adding the name of the server's socat script to
the end of the ssh command.  I also added 'killall socat' to the two
socat scripts before the socat command.

So on the client side I have:


Code:


  killall socat
  socat -T3600 upd4- & ssh -L ... user@LMS-dns-address 
name-of-server-socat-script
  



And on the server, the "name-of-server-socat-script" contains:


Code:


  killall socat
  socat tcp4-
  



This seems to work reliably thus far.



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44.1->192kbps.  Touch & EDO. 2nd Touch standard.
LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to A308CR amp & ESLs) &
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 17.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Upgrade Wifi - Mesh - Which one?

2018-02-23 Thread epoch1970

+1 for PLC/Homeplug
And you could also have a look at flat ethernet cables in passing. They
work great running under carpets or around corners.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Upgrade Wifi - Mesh - Which one?

2018-02-23 Thread bpa

I have Netgear Orbi (router + 1 slave) because I had wifi reach problem
but where I live in a large 3 storey Victorian redbrick with lots of
chimneys (i.e. thick brick inner walls in every room) and wooden floors.
Router and slave communicate using one 5MHz channel but positioning of
the units with a line of sight not through brick was essential for
throughput.  Even with the Orbi I need a homeplug to reach a corner of
an extension due to foil backed insulation sheets on walls.

Before I got the Orbi I used an Asus RTN66U which did a very good job
using Homeplug to allow me to position the router in the optimum place
rather than where ISP connection comes into house.

If the flat is on one floor with concrete walls then unless you can get
line of sight between the units and not going through concrete -
homeplug would be a better idea - if only to reposition the main router
.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Upgrade Wifi - Mesh - Which one?

2018-02-23 Thread Paul Webster

One alternative option to consider is using the wired power network ...
e.g. via Homeplug.
They usually give a local Ethernet connection and some also provide
wifi.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] END OF MY ROPE! "Can't connect to server..."

2018-02-23 Thread Mnyb

Streaming devices also tend to expose the weraknesses one have in a
network .

Even a crummy network is fine for intenet browsing and email .

But the crakcs are showing when you want continius troughput 24/7




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