Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A little rant about LMS

[Michael Herger]

The software I have all sorts of problem with, its outdated. I don't
mind the use of a browser for playing and making playlist and what not
but why not use the new technology thats around? Making a large playlist
now is a pain. I could make one in Foobar or something and then save and
update the playlist but why should I have too? WHy cant I just drag a
song from a folder directly into LMS? I know its possible to implement.


No, you don't _know_ it is possible, you _assume_ it.

How would my server stream the files I drag from my computer to whatever 
interface? It can't, because my server is not allowed to access to my 
computer's files.



The UI is old and not at all good I think. I like the one Spotify have
for its webplayer, columns where you just click and/or drag. As far as I
can tell LMS haven't change at all since I started using it while the
available tech have change alot. Is there no one developing the software
anymore? Is there alternative? Why sint it open source or somthing to
let others develop it or make alternativ server software?


Perfectly valid questions. I'm sure quite a few people are willing to 
pay a few bucks for a good UI. See eg. the various apps for smartphones 
and tablets. They prove it's technically possible to do a nice UI, and 
that it can sell.


Get your hands dirty and let us know when you're done.


All this have most certainly been brought up before or I would be
suprised.


Oh, I see. You didn't even try to find answers to your questions? Fair 
enough: your subject contains the term "rant".



Why Logitech, why?


Because they dropped the product several years ago. It's now up to you 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] 7.9 nightly GUI/Browser issue

[Michael Herger]

I'm running Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1449829896 @ Fri Dec
11.  Seems like there's an update available every day.  Is there
development work taking place?


Yes, 7.9 is under +/- active development. It's a community build, not 
supported by Logitech (only sponsored - as I'm the main contributor :-)).




I thought the Squeezebox was dead.


The product is no longer marketed by Logitech, that's true. But there's 
still an active community here.



Should I be downloading each update as it becomes available, or are
these all the same files (just being archived with a new date)?


Yes, please make sure you install the latest, as I did a few things a 
week or so ago, and needed to fix them in the last days.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] 7.9 nightly and unix_timestamp

[Michael Herger]

Please provide the full server.log file. That function is not defined 
nor being used in LMS. And FWICT it's not a native SQLite function. It 
must come from somewhere else. Maybe even one of the third party plugins.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 7.9 temporarily unresponsive after selecting radio station "Keizerstad 80's"

[Michael Herger]

When switching from another source to radio station Keizerstad 80's
(http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s143281=aac,ogg,mp3=16=ba802d3baa60dfd83b96600d6d7c3d81)
the server (latest LMS 7.9) stalls for a couple of seconds on a laptop
with Ubuntu 14.04 up to almost a minute on Arch Linux on a Wandboard.


Yeah, I'm seeing the same. No idea what is going on there. When you 
click the title in the web UI (once the server has settled), what stream 
details would you get? TuneIn.com claims to have a 128kbps MP3 stream, 
but LMS seems to be streaming 48kbps only.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Audioscrobbler Plug-In Not Working - Time Zone Issue?

[Michael Herger]

There was an error verifying your account with Last.fm. Please try again
later. (Unable to handshake with Last.fm because your system clock is
incorrect. Please update your clock and try again.).


Have you checked your server's time settings? A NAS might easily have a 
wrong time setting without you noticing.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Featurerequest Smart Crossfade

[Michael Herger]

is there a minor chance to enhance the Smart Crossfade to exclude some
genres like Audiobook or Speech from Crossfading?


Well, "minor" always includes the possibility of a community member 
coming up with the solution. But it's nothing I'd want to spend time with...

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Warning: DBIx

[Michael Herger]

What does this mean and how can I repair it?


It means that some code is doing a call which would only handle one 
result, but got more than one record back. This usually is not critical. 
It's only considered a warning, not an error.


I have fixed one such issue a few weeks ago. The warning might go away 
if you updated your LMS.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Cache scrobbles in LMS

[Michael Herger]

OK, apologies for reactivating this query, but my experience over the
last few weeks has been that when running LMS (a recent 7.9.0 nightly)
on a MacBook (OSX 10.11.2) without internet access, scrobbles aren't
reliably cached. At least, when I later connect the MacBook to the
internet few, if any, plays are scrobbled (usually none).


This certainly never was implemented with your use case in head. Using 
an online service without internet connection is rather border line...


Did you ever enable debug logging for plugin.audioscrobbler? It might 
give you some indication about what's wrong. I do know for sure that you 
can't queue up an unlimited number of tracks. The server would only 
accept a certain number (which I don't know by heart).

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] What rules used LMS 7.9 to build library ?

[Michael Herger]

Too many files to tag ... Any way to change behaviour of LMS ?


Try Settings/Advanced/Formatting: there are options to configure the 
metadata "guessing" based on folder names etc.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Why are LMS gui update announcements random?

[Michael Herger]

These announcements appear at random - eg. some updates are announced,
others are only available by the wget & dpkg procedure.


The update checker only checks every 24h (by default). And there have 
been Holidays. Maybe you missed a build or two because of this?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] iTunes album artwork - not showing for all albums in LMS

[Michael Herger]

My problem is:  The majority of album artwork shows correctly but a
significant number do not. I think, but cannot be sure, that it is the
ones where iTunes downloaded the artwork itself that aren't displayed.
Can anyone help?


iTunes Artwork indeed can't easily be shown. There's an experimental 
option in the iTunes plugin settings to enable import of them. It might 
work or not. Give it a try.


Much simpler is embedding the artwork into the music files. Don't know 
whether this is easily possible with iTunes, though.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] My goal is to get triode’s 3rd party app reinstalled so I can use my Boom once more.

[Michael Herger]

(v10.0.5, 1452060822, Fri Jan  8 21:01:02 PST 2016) perl 5.018002


Don't install UE Music Library 10, but Logitech Media Server 7.x.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] 7.9 nightly and unix_timestamp

[Michael Herger]

I really think this problem is not related to the LMS version, as 
unix_timestamp afaict has never been part of LMS. The plugin would have 
to implement and register it. If it failed, then you should see some 
message about that failure in  your log file, too. Please provide your 
full server.log file, not only the snippet you posted. Oh, and try to 
get some information from Erland, too.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Deleting cache.db - repercussions?

[Michael Herger]

I am contemplating shutting down LMS and deleting this file as I believe
I've read elsewhere that it gets recreated.  Would I also need to
restore my Trackstat data from a backup in this case?  Any other


I don't think TrackStat is using cache.db, but persist.db. cache.db 
really shouldn't contain any information which wouldn't be replaced 
automatically. You can rename it while LMS is shut down if you want to 
keep a copy, yet start from scratch. But most likely that copy wouldn't 
be useful anyway, as it's corrupted.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Offline playing Spotify playlists kaput

[Michael Herger]

I have switched now. This brings me back to where I can not access
playlists on Spotify. You wrote earlier: "My Apps should be side by side
with App Gallery". It does so not with me.


Can you access internet radio? If so: please check your mysqueezebox.com 
settings in LMS. Provide your full server.log file.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] 7.9 nightly and unix_timestamp

[Michael Herger]

It may not be an LMS bug, but it seems related somehow to the LMS
version, as I can go back and forth to the 7.9.0-1447333834 version,
where the issue is not exhibited whatsoever.


Ok, it's not a bug, but a change in behaviour. Would your plugins work 
if you disabled the fulltext search plugin?


The problem is that SQLPlaylist is using a hacky way to register its 
custom SQL functions. I did the same for the Fulltext Search plugin 
until a few weeks ago. But as I was running into similar issues as 
SQLPlaylist is running into now, I decided to provide a well defined way 
to handle those custom functions:


https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commit/58b361a26dc5867ca312cf6565dca3392d15dbcf

Unfortunately this changes the way SQL connections are handled a tad 
little bit. And this little change conflicts with an assumption Erland 
did make when he implemented his solution.


I think his plugins might work again if you disable the fulltext search. 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] 7.9 won't start 0n 10.10.4

[Michael Herger]

There's a problem with your configuration: LMS tries to write to the 
disk's root directory (/cache). That's utterly wrong. Did you install 
LMS under the account you're using to run these tests?


Please search the forums for problems with OSX and permissions. 10.10 
introduced problems with permissions on the ~/Library folder (and 
sub-folders). There should be three SB related folders for which you 
need write permssions:


~/Library/Application Support/Squeezebox
~/Library/Caches/Squeezebox
~/Library/Logs/Squeezebox

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Best version for OSX 10.11.2?

[Michael Herger]

You can disable the update check in Settings/Advanced/Software Updates. 

> Am 20.12.2015 um 10:50 schrieb Dave2O84 
> :
> 
> 
> Currently running the 7.9 nightlies but my wife is getting fed up with
> the installer asking to update every day on her mac mini which hosts the
> LMS. I went to the nightlies after mavericks was released as at the time
> none of the released versions would work for us.
> 
> What is the best version to run on OSX 10.11.2 without an obtrusive
> update schedule (or can we disable it somewhere?).  
> 
> We run a pretty stock installation and it basically just serves up our
> large iTunes library to our squeezebox 3.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Dave2O84's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12962
> View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104850
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Best version for OSX 10.11.2?

[Michael Herger]

I am frequently being asked to update.


Most likely LMS still finds one downloaded update package. Do run this 
one update, then you should be fine. It will reset all flags and remove 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarm

[Michael Herger]

That doesn't work.  When woke with a WOL, the Mac will sleep after a min
or irrespective of the Energy Settings.


Did you configure the Prevent Standby plugin in LMS?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Offline playing Spotify playlists kaput

[Michael Herger]

When clicking "Radio > Spotify > Playlists" in LMS I get this:


Is this using Triode's plugin or the official Spotify app?


Error reading headers: Server closed connection without sending any data
back at
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/CPAN/Net/HTTP/Methods.pm
line 306.
...propagated at
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/CPAN/Net/HTTP/NB.pm
line 32.


I'm not too familiar with Triode's solution. But I think this happens 
when the external helper application isn't reachable. I think you should 
post to his thread with some more detail about your installation, incl. 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Offline playing Spotify playlists kaput

[Michael Herger]

So my installation is completely f*cked up, huh?


Oh, you're talking about the web UI. Have you tried restarting your LMS? 
Similarly to the errors you reported in your first posting, missing apps 
might be the result of some networking issues. Did you recently change 
anything about your network configuration? Software updates on your 
server machine? Firewall settings? Antivirus update?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Move to new iMac. Cant get server to run! Please help

[Michael Herger]

21/12/2015 12:25:00.074 com.apple.kextd[51]: ERROR: invalid signature
for com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver, will not load


That's Mouse/Keyboard software, has nothing to do with LMS.

There has been an issue with 7.9 for a few days which would cause 
failure on new installations. I've fixed that today. Please try the 
latest build:


http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=7.9
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Did iTunes 12.2 (latest) break the itunes plugin in LMS?

[Michael Herger]

Anyone care to enlighten me on what I could be doing wrong or have
failed to pick up when reading the thread?


Enable debug logging for plugin.itunes, re-run a full scan, then upload 
your scanner.log file to this thread.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Rescan without warning, then other plugin errors

[Michael Herger]

What on earth is going on?


Are you using BMF?


The scanner log is in the server log (never
seen that before) and it's run twice already in minutes, confusing the
blazes out of me and also Custom Scan, which never got a chance to
finish after the first scan.


You seem to be running quite some 3rd party plugins. Could you start to 
disable some of them to figure out what is causing the scans?



The only thing I can imagine is that LMS is detecting that maybe a few
tracks have been updated since the last scan.


S::U::S::L->rescan should only be called from the scanner OR when using 
BMF. Or by some code I don't know (3rd party plugin).


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Wavpack tags not recognised

[Michael Herger]

My problem is not playing the files, but having the tags read. In any
case I transcode them in LMS configuration, & the problem is still
present.


I meant to convert those files from wavpack to flac outside LMS. You 
could then play the flac files just fine. As both formats are lossless 
there's no quality impact in doing this.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] 3rd party plugins no longer working

[Michael Herger]

Thanks - so how do I get them working again ?


Those repositories hosted on googlecode are gone. If the developers 
don't move them elsewhere, then they're gone for good.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] 3rd party plugins no longer working

[Michael Herger]

Several repository plugins no longer work - see attached screenshot of
Plugins page - which may be related to my recent internet outage ?


FWIW: you shouldn't need to add any of those URLs manually. They're all 
part of the main default repository file which is updated whenever possible.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New error message in LMS log - what's up?

[Michael Herger]

  16-06-08 12:55:28.2974] Slim::Player::Protocols::HTTP::getMetadataFor (663) Metadata 
provider Slim::Plugin::InternetRadio::TuneIn::Metadata::provider failed: Can't call 
method "master" on an undefined value at 
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Plugin/InternetRadio/TuneIn/Metadata.pm line 162.
  [16-06-08 12:55:28.2987] Slim::Control::Request::execute (1888) Error: While trying to 
run function coderef [Slim::Control::Queries::songinfoQuery]: [Can't call method 
"playingSong" on an undefined value at 
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Player/Protocols/HTTP.pm line 672.
  ]
  [16-06-08 12:55:28.3005] Slim::Plugin::CLI::Plugin::cli_process (634) Request 
[songinfo] failed with error: Bad dispatch!


Most likely a player has disappeared while something was still 
requesting information for it. That would be a temporary problem.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Search command in cli

[Michael Herger]

Hi all, just playing with the CLI and I notice when using *search* the
genre information is not being returned as per the documentation


Works for me as expected. What exact search do you use? Are you using 
the fulltext search plugin or not? What results do you get for that search?


search 0 10 term:folk
00%3A04%3A20%3A22%3A00%3A5b search 0 10 term%3Afolk genres_count%3A1 
genre_id%3A134 genre%3AFolk tracks_count%3A79 ...


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Search command in cli

[Michael Herger]

Maybe I misunderstand how search works - I thought if I searched for the
Beatles it would return the artists,albums tracks and the genres ( which
it does if I search for folk because folk is a genre )


Ah, no, that's indeed not the case. The search wouldn't list genres for 
tracks or artists it finds.


I was asking about the fulltext search, as there is no fulltext index 
for genres. I didn't know about any reason to have one. But your use 
case actually might be one. That said I'm not sure I'm going to 
implement this, as it would create massive indexes for only a few values.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezesvr owner changes from to

[Michael Herger]

It is evil and of course when someone wrote something like add a account
for that service to run and another wrotes now you dont need that its
pretty fine to run that service as "THE" local System the only account
with less restrictions as the local admin of this device - i really had
to add a text to that and linked some official description to that - and
its pretty clear that even the guys from mickysoft says its evil.


The problem is that most of the time you primarily show off your 
infinite wisdom, rather than to help to solve the actual problem. While 
it might be true what you're saying, it's mostly noise in the 
discussion. As long as the user doesn't know where to enter the 
username, all discussion about which user to apply is only distracting 
from the actual problem.


So please everybody go back to my question in posting #7 and see whether 
we're even talking about the right place where to put your credentials.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No apps appearing on newly created mysqueezebox.com accounts linked to LMS 7.7.4

[Michael Herger]

I'm not certain if this thread is still monitored, however this issue
seems to be happening again with newly created accounts. I am a US user,
I created a new account about a month ago to do some testing for work-
My old MSBdotC account works perfectly, however the new account will not
display the apps in the LMS.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 7.9 won't start with Mac OS X 10.11.4

[Michael Herger]

But I normally run as a standard non-admin user, and installed LMS from
that account. And as a standard user I can't use sudo.


But how did you install it? Haven't you been asked to enter your admin's 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezesvr owner changes from to

[Michael Herger]

I open the Control Panel and if I click rescan - all the music in the
library is deleted.


Did you enter your username/password in the control panel when 
configuring LMS to run as a service?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Rescan without warning, then other plugin errors

[Michael Herger]

  frame 5: Slim::Music::Import::nextScanTask 
(/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Web/Settings/Server/Basic.pm line 159)


That's the line of code in the settings page which would trigger the 
rescan if needed. Make sure you don't have the Settings open in some tab 
of your browser. It might want to re-load whatever your page was last 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Wavpack tags not recognised

[Michael Herger]

The problem has been the size of the tags (inc. artwork). The .wv files
have APEv2 and 1D3v1 tags. I find, with these files, that the only tags
that can be read by LMS are the ID3v1 versions. I found that I had to
reduce the size of the tags & the artwork for LMS to correctly read them
due to the ID3v1 character limit. The tags are then readable, though
obviously limited. I am talking Classical music here, so this is a
nuisance.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] 7.9 nightlies out of sync

[Michael Herger]

(all debs out of whack except
logitechmediaserver_7.9.0~1465358341_arm.deb)


That's usually a temporary issue, as a.) some builds take a little 
longer than the others, and b.) there's some caching involved. You don't 
always get real-time results. Try again in a bit from now. Or go to 
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.9/sc instead and browse your 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Shuffle Play Resetting On Every New Song

[Michael Herger]

Just make sure the old and the new server are running at the same time. 
Or shut down one of them, edit its server.prefs file to remove the 
server_uuid value, restart. Otherwise the players might get confused 
when they see the same UUID for two different installations.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] library.db Corrupt Auto-rebuild

[Michael Herger]

For the moment I wouldn't worry to much about the cause of the 
corruption. It happens. Just shut down LMS, delete the file, restart.


Should this kind of problem occur more often, then it's probably time to 
investigate the root cause.


BTW: some of your partitions are rather small (in particular /tmp). 
Where is your library.db stored? If /opt is indeed part of /, then 
there's only 14MB left. Not enough for LMS.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Latest Stable version of LMS for Windows Server 2012?

[Michael Herger]

I can only see 7.9 here - in the nightly section.
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9  - is it the one I
should install for a stable build???


Yes, I'd say so.

That said, it still is under development. It's not finalized, released, 
you name it. It's really stable at this point, but I'm committing 
changes every now and then. It's been rather quiet recently, therefore 
it's a good moment to hop on the 7.9 train.


You will get update notifications whenever a new build is available - 
this can be daily (can be disabled in Settings/Advanced/Software 
Updates). You might check back with the forums if you want to be sure to 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] library.db Corrupt Auto-rebuild

[Michael Herger]

Does this:

47250: [16-05-30 11:19:17.1490] Slim::Schema::init (162) Warning:
Creating new database - empty, outdated or invalid database found

indicate a new db was created?


No, it only indicates that there is no music data in the database. When 
a new db is created, then of course you would get it. But also if you 
deleted its content manually, if the scanner crashed before it actually 
stored any data, if your music folder was empty etc.


I must silence that warning... it's confusing too many people.


Also, the last time LMS crashed was
months ago but could that have lead to 5/30 corruption?  Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Jessie - arm - pogoplug E02

[Michael Herger]

That's the one I used now - but I still get the missing perl
installation error, even though perl is installed.


Get a copy of this:

https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/tree/public/7.9/CPAN

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Jessie - arm - pogoplug E02

[Michael Herger]

So the deb is not build for the arm platform for Jessie?
Is this correct?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Local artwork does not display full size in web interface

[Michael Herger]

Under Song Info > Local artwork like this:

Clicking on anything but the larger cover image does nothing.


Ok, make sure you accept the next updates for LMS as well as the plugin.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Local artwork does not display full size in web interface

[Michael Herger]

@  Michael:
I dont know if that covers his problem.

You show the -hoover image- effect - but he wrotes something about
"-when I clicked on one of the files-".


That's why I added another screenshot ;-)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Local artwork does not display full size in web interface

[Michael Herger]

Under Song Info > Local artwork like this:


Oh, that's part of the Music and Artist Information plugin. Would it 
work if you switched to large artwork mode (in the left hand side panel)?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Error posted to log every 30s

[Michael Herger]

I assume this is a polling error, but I do not know how to find out
which device is being polled and (if this is the case) how to stop
this


Aren't you using LMS in a docker container? Please check its network 
setup. Could it be blocking some traffic? What would that IP address be? 
By enabling debugging for control.queries you might see what query 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Allow crossfading between tracks with different sample rates on LMS 7.9

[Michael Herger]

Is there a
specific reason why this was disabled in the first place?


https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/3

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Allow crossfading between tracks with different sample rates on LMS 7.9

[Michael Herger]

Thank you for clarifying the reason why it was disabled. Is there any
chance in the future that this can be made into an optional setting? Or


I doubt it. Why would you want to have the reported mis-behaviour?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Allow crossfading between tracks with different sample rates on LMS 7.9

[Michael Herger]

I'd suggest you continue the discussion on that pull request. I can't 
reproduce the issue lack of material, and it certainly isn't a problem 
for many. But the author of the patch should have a better understanding 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bug in LMS 7.9 and SqueezePlay with albums that have over 200 tracks

[Michael Herger]

Is this a new bug in 7.9?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone tried LMS with Synology DiskStation DS216Play NAS? Thoughts?

[Michael Herger]

Looking to upgrade from my ReadyNAS Duo V2 as it is a tad slow at times
and also is not able to stream flac 24/192 without pausing to buffer.


That's my main server at the office. Working fine. Don't expect a 
race-horse while riding an old crock.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone tried LMS with Synology DiskStation DS216Play NAS? Thoughts?

[Michael Herger]

That's my main server at the office. Working fine. Don't expect a

race-horse while riding an old crock.


Which one in your office... NetGear or the Synergy? Have you used LMS on
it?


Oops, sorry, wasn't precise about your actual question. No, I haven't 
tested the Synology. My comment was about the ReadyNAS Duo v2.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Images for Genres or Artists

[Michael Herger]

i never had a problem in associating an image with an album; I always
save a cover.jpg file in the folder that contains the album. Does anyone
know how i can save images that will appear associated with a Genre or
with an Artist so it may appear in the search by artist or by genre
screen?


You can have artist images using my Music and Artist Information plugin. 
Genre images don't exist afaict.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Keep-awake suggestions for LMS on Windows Server?

[Michael Herger]

Was there anything specific in 7.9 that might have improved search
response times from a standing start?


A lot has changed wrt. searches in 7.9. First of all it's now using a 
fulltext search index. I'm not sure whether this helps with performance 
or not. But there is improved caching, some optimizations to the SQL 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Rescan without warning, then other plugin errors

[Michael Herger]

I think that when I closed Vivaldi whilst a Settings window was on
display, on re-starting it Vivaldi was restoring that Settings window on
the first page and somehow entering Enter, triggering a rescan.  Very
strange.


The rescan parameter might be part of the URL for the page shown. If 
Vivaldi tries to restore the exact state as before, it would try to 
re-load this very URL, which would trigger the scan. I think I vaguely 
remember a similar behaviour with Opera - which was the browser the 
Vivaldi makers did previously.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Prevent rescan on adding a playlist

[Michael Herger]

When playing an externally created playlist by Disks and Folders, if
there is more than one artist the track information shows an error on
the GUI 'ARRAY(') in place of the Artist name.


Could you please upload a file exposing this behaviour to my dropbox?

https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Prevent rescan on adding a playlist

[Michael Herger]

Have done so.  It's called "1-05 - Sonata No.2 in A BWV.1015 - 1.
Dolce.flac".


Thanks, should be fixed in the next build.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox server stopped working after upgrade to Jessie on raspberrypi

[Michael Herger]

I have tried it, and it worked fine. But nevertheless, after a few days,
I reverted my Pi back to my self-built 7.8-armhf-server on wheezy as it
performs A LOT faster than the 7.9 all_deb-version on jessie.

Any explanation approaches for this?


You should give some more information about what aspects of LMS were 
slower with 7.9. In general I would expect 7.9 to be faster in most 
circumstances (faster scanning, faster browsing etc.). But there are 
some new features which might be too much for slower machines (eg. 
fulltext search, some of the additional browse modes etc.). Most if not 
all of those features are optional plugins which can be turned off.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Notifications stopped for nightlies

[Michael Herger]

Hi All, not a big deal but I don't receive a notification of the nightly
builds any more


There hasn't been an update for about a week. You should get them in the 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Scanning issue with 7.9

[Michael Herger]

How can I repair the database ?


Shut down LMS, delete library.db, restart.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Latest 7.9 nightlly 1455204344 favourites problem

[Michael Herger]

Favourites shows 'On mysqueezebox.com' twice ... as first and last items
in the list!


If you look at the file you'll see that one of them is using https, 
while the other uses http. This would be the result of a change I 
applied yesterday to use encrypted communication between LMS and mysb. 
Just delete the plaintext one, or both of them. It'll be re-added next 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS failed to start. Permission denied at ..YAML/XS.pm line 31.

[Michael Herger]

Are you running out of disk space?

> Am 13.02.2016 um 11:45 schrieb permafrost 
> :
> 
> 
> Long time user of Squeezebox running on WHS 2011.
> 
> After running without any problems for a long time suddenly overnight
> LMS 7.5 is not running and can't be started. No changes on the server
> for a long time except for windows updates.
> 
> I've search forums and seen other having same issues but haven't found a
> solution that worked for me. 
> I've been starting LMS as administrator and tried installing version 7.9
> of LMS.
> Shutting down firewall doesn't help either.
> I've uninstalled recent windows updates with no luck.
> 
> Anyone got any solution or suggestions for this? Any hint is
> appreciated.
> 
> Server.log:
> [16-02-12 20:21:19.1215] main::init (353) Starting Logitech Media Server
> (v7.7.5, 1416570306, Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014) perl 5.014001
> [16-02-12 20:21:19.3407] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1311) Warning:
> [20:21:19.3405] Can't open
> 'C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\plugin-data.yaml' for output:
> Permission denied at
> /YAML/XS.pm line 31.
> 
> Event viewer and LMS control panel:
> 19934
> 19935
> 
> 
> +---+
> |Filename: LMS control panel.JPG|
> |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19935|
> +---+
> 
> 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS plugin 'restart now/restart later' notification won't go away

[Michael Herger]

Ahm... What fix? Ralphy's approach would need to be implemented by the plugin 
authors. Did I miss something?

> Am 13.02.2016 um 08:07 schrieb philippe_44 
> :
> 
> 
> oyvindo wrote: 
>> We are a number of Castbridge users who experience the same.
>> The reason is that the Plugin repository is down and LMS fails to reach
>> it.
>> 
>> I'm not saying this is exactly what you experience, but if you have an
>> invalid repository link or if one of the repositories that any of your
>> plugins depend on, is down, then this would be the result.
> 
> There is a problem with most of the repositories that use sourceforge to
> host their files. I think we have a fix, but we need Michael's magic
> touch, so give him some week-end time :)
> 
> 
> 
> LMS 7.7.5 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1,
> PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne,
> JRiver 21, Chromecast Audio, Chromecast v1, Pi B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+,
> Odroid-C1, Cubie2
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] BIG Trouble with rescanning music

[Michael Herger]

OK - the scanner file is attached, but the server log file is almost
23mb, so I couldn't upload it or even copy the text from it.  I uploaded
it to my school website, and 'HERE'
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz3xMYPPrTQbd1ZUN28zMGJNdGM/view?usp=sharing)


Please reboot your server, and check it's clock settings: all those 
timestamps are totally wrong, like 2002? And there are errors which 
might be caused by either a full disk, or some other lack of resources 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Web UI player panel disconnects from player

[Michael Herger]

I run 7.9 LMS on Debian "Jessie" stable, web UI on Safari on MacOs El
Capitan. Player is the Squeezebox Classic. This problem seems to have
started after a restart of the server after a power shutdown.


Could you please check the server.log file? What platform for Jessie?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Debian packages for 7.9 ARM/x86_64

[Michael Herger]

oh, and I suggested "x86_64", rather than amd64, for the variable, so
one could use:

arch=$(uname -m)

to generate it automatically.


Why don't you let LMS do this for you? It has an update checker built 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 7.9 won't start with Mac OS X 10.11.4

[Michael Herger]

I just updated my iMac with Mac OSX 10.11.4 (public beta 2)
since then, LMS 7.9 (very last nightly update) won't start. I use it
with a Squeezebox Touch through Ethernet network.


Sometimes there are issues with LMS on recent OSX versions and 
permissions on the logs folder. Please try the following two commands 
from the terminal:


sudo mkdir -p ~/Library/Logs/Squeezebox
sudo chown $USER ~/Library/Logs/Squeezebox

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No apps in Squeezebox after upgrade

[Michael Herger]

alpha-character is my encoded password.  So it appears that mysm.com is
not returning the account information, instead only sending the
publically available apps and links.


Please don't come to conclusions without understanding what's going on. 
This call is not supposed to return your apps. Therefore they don't show 
up there.


Please enable debugging for network.squeezenetwork. Set all other 
logging levels to warn or lower. Then try to log in again. This should 
give you more information in the server.log file.



that side? If the issue was load balancer, is it possible some accounts
were not replicated?


If you log in to mysb.com directly, then fire up the player control, 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No apps in Squeezebox after upgrade

[Michael Herger]

FWIW: if your LMS should connect to mysb.com coming from the same IP 
address as you using your browser (or curl), then there's not a single 
request coming from your LMS to mysb.com. I checked all log files.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Count of Artists

[Michael Herger]

Now it's true that many contributors have more than one role. So if I
just count the number of unique contributor names overall I get 3437.


The count also depends on what you consider an artist. What are your 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Help a newbie get LMS software working on Macbook Air again for Squeezebox Touch

[Michael Herger]

I browsed to that folder, went to Get info, and in 'Sharing &
Permissions' added my user name with Read & Write access. This seems to
have fixed the problem! I was a bit surprised.


The problem is that LMS crashes trying to write to its log file. I 
thought I had a fix in place for more recent LMS builds, but it seems 
this is still not good. Fixing it manually always fixes it though.



Is this what you were referring to?


Yes.


So can I assume I can upgrade to any current version of OSX and I can
get the LMS software to work on that computer once I follow the same
procedure on the Squeezebox folder?


Yes. I'm running 10.11 on all of my machines now.
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No apps in Squeezebox after upgrade

[Michael Herger]

I would add that LMS downloads nightlies regularly.


Yeah, but your log file features an error about not reaching the update 
checker, too.


Can you "wget 
http://www.mysqueezebox.com/update/?version=7.9.0=1456293066=EN=1=debamd64=3; 
from the machine where you're running LMS?


Maybe this was some bad timing: we've had some maintenance work going on 
in the US yesterday. While this should have been transparent, it turned 
out one of the load-balancers was mis-behaving. Do you still encounter 
this problem (please restart LMS and LMS only)?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] No apps in Squeezebox after upgrade

[Michael Herger]

The system is still waiting for the download and doesn't appear to be
progressing.



Oops... this should have been:

wget 
"http://www.mysqueezebox.com/update/?version=7.9.0=1456293066=EN=1=debamd64=3;


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installed Ubuntu 15.10 and now logitechmediaserver says This webpage is not available

[Michael Herger]

How do I. Check server.log? I used Webmin under System Logs and looked


server.log should be in /var/log/squeezeboxserver.

What does "perl -v" give you? LMS 7.7.5 is pretty old. You'll most 
likely have to run 7.9 for support of your platform.


http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=7.9

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Running 2 LMS Services or Multi Library question

[Michael Herger]

I've only done it running the Perl code of LMS, but I think it should be
doable running 'compiled' EXE versions for Windows.


Yes, it should accept the same set of parameters.


I don't recall if
the LMS Windows installer lets you designate an installation folder or
not. If not, you could install one instance, move or rename its
installation folder, then install LMS a second time.


No need to install multiple instances. You can run multiple copies from 
the same location. Only the data folders need to be different.


But I doubt it's the easiest solution to the OP's problem. I'd rather 
try to run two different library views from the same server. If the data 
is well tagged and structured, this should be pretty straight forward.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Running 2 LMS Services or Multi Library question

[Michael Herger]

Now that I recall, running multiple instances of the EXE may not be
possible. The issue I ran into was that it never picked up the
command-line option pointing to a different prefs folder. Works with the
Perl code.


I thought I had fixed this almost exactly one year ago:

https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commit/1b92e24b7cab860c98b099c65916ddbedf766c66


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Avoid adding playlist entries to database

[Michael Herger]

Is it possibe to avoid that the files that are in my playlist files
(m3u) are added to the database (so they do not appear under albums,
artists, genres etc.) when scanning?


If you don't mind editing your playlists in a text editor: use LMS 7.9, 
replace all file:// urls in your playlist with tmp://. LMS 7.9 should be 
able to play those files without adding them to the library.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Avoid adding playlist entries to database

[Michael Herger]

 $ sed -i 's;file://;tmp://;g' *.m3u



Hehe... who needs a text editor when you have sed? Real men don't click! :-)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Perl problems with LMS 7.9 on Debian sid

[Michael Herger]

I wasn't aware that the 5.22 issue, which has just broken LMS for me
too, had a quick solution, other than entirely building your own, which
I was going to try next.


I added binaries for Perl 5.22 x86_64 Linux last night. Please give it a 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Avoid adding playlist entries to database

[Michael Herger]

Bravo very cool to use the temp playback feature in a playlist ! :)


That volatile file handler is way more helpful than I initially thought. 
It helped me implement various features like continuing playback during 
a wipe & rescan, d'n'd playback of any file through your browser.


Now I finally should fix playing playlists without storing their content.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Custom URLs in TuneIn?

[Michael Herger]

I see that in TuneIn service there is an option to add custom URL radio
station/streams.
However it doesn't work in my LMS server:


Can you explain, step-by-step, what you're trying to do? What URL? 
What's the outcome?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Web browser timeout waiting for "Settings - Information" & Scan Details

[Michael Herger]

Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (147) Error: Select task failed
calling Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP: illegal file descriptor or
filehandle (either no attached file descriptor or illegal value):  at
/share/HDA_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm
line 150


Unfortunately this is a rather generic error message. It could be caused 
by networking issues, or the system running out of file handles, or... 
Are there any more messages before or after that? Tried a restart?



My LMS 7.8.1 runs on a QTS Linux NAS.


Latest 7.8.1?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Alarms not triggered after LMS update

[Michael Herger]

wouldn't boot anymore. After I finally got LMS working with yesterday's
nightly build thanks to a post I'm not yet allowed to link to (Post #72


Latest 7.9 nightly should work with Jessy right out of the box on Pi/Pi2.


backup of the /usr/share/squeezeboxserver folder, revision.txt says the
server's version was "33961". Don't know if thos could be related
somehow.


What ancient LMS version is this?


there's nothing to hear. Moreover I get the impression, as the thread's
title indicates, that the alarm isn't even triggered. The radio's


Enable debug logging for alarms (see Settings/Advanced/Logging). Re-try, 
post your server.log file.


Are you sure your Radio is even connected to your LMS? I get the 
impression it's connected to mysb.com rather than LMS.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Custom URLs in TuneIn?

[Michael Herger]

I added some custom URLs (stream addresses) to my account in the TuneIn


_What_ URL. This piece of information might be crucial.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Debian packages for 7.9 ARM/x86_64

[Michael Herger]

Running the internal squeezeplay sqpos303, I was hopeful that this light
installation would allow full LMS functionality without having to resort
to the previous sqpos version.


I don't even know what sqpos303 is, but I wouldn't know why a 1.3GHz 
Intel system wouldn't be able to run the full LMS?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Debian packages for 7.9 ARM/x86_64

[Michael Herger]

I just tried the amd package - it installed and server restarted BUT I
can't access via the web-gui.


What CPU and OS and version? Could you please check your server.log for 
any related error message?


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Debian packages for 7.9 ARM/AMD64

[Michael Herger]

Will the x86_64 installer work for Intel , or is it specifically AMD?


amd64 is the term used in Debian world for any x86_64, Intel and AMD.

I'm going to rename this thread...

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS: Where is SQLITE located, which came w/ LMS install?

[Michael Herger]

SQLite, unlike most other databases like eg. MySQL, is an embedded database. 
There's no sqlite application or server. But the whole database code is built 
in to the application (the DBI::SQLite Perl module in our case). Therefore 
you'll have to either use Perl for your application or find a SQLite 
implementation for your language of choice. 

> Am 25.01.2016 um 10:56 schrieb slimhase 
> :
> 
> 
> I am running LMS 7.9 on a slimmed down x86 Ubuntu System (O2 'Joggler',
> running SqueezePlay OS from roobarb! from the joggler forum)
> Everything is running nicely. 
> 
> However, I would like to use that computer for some basic home
> automatization tasks (as it is the only computer running 24/7 in our
> house):
> I would like to have a sqlite database residing here, which is fed from
> other WLAN devices.
> 
> And since sqlite came along w/ the LMS install, I thought I can use it -
> but I can not find it!
> 
> LMS info states:
> "Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1445779463 @ Tue Oct 27 04:05:34
> UTC 2015
> ...
> Datenbankversion: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
> "
> 
> So, it is there, but my system does not understand 'sqlite3' or similar
> commands from the root directory.
> 
> -> Where (in which directory) is sqlite 'hiding' and how can I use it
> (beside what it is doing within LMS)?
> 
> 
> 
> Heiner
> My system:
> LMS 7.8 on modded Open Peak Joggler running Roobarbs SqueezePlay OS.
> 1 x Slimp3
> 5 x Squeezebox Classic
> 1 x Controller
> 2 x Squeeze Commander (on 2 rooted Nook Touch e-reader)
> X x Squeezeplay on various PC's & Laptops
> 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Debian packages for 7.9 ARM/x86_64

[Michael Herger]

That's not a x86_64 compatible CPU. FWICT it's 32 bit only. What's the Perl 
version string in Settings/Information?

> Am 25.01.2016 um 11:10 schrieb castalla 
> :
> 
> 
> mherger wrote: 
>>> I just tried the amd package - it installed and server restarted BUT
>> I
>>> can't access via the web-gui.
>> 
>> What CPU and OS and version? Could you please check your server.log for
>> 
>> any related error message?
>> 
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>> Michael
> 
> Server log has:
> 
> 2016-01-25 09:05:19 squeezeboxserver_safe stopped.
> 2016-01-25 09:06:59 squeezeboxserver_safe started.
> 2016-01-25 09:07:10 Logitech Media Server died. Restarting.
> .. repeated ad infinitum
> 
> 
> CPU : 1.3GHz Intel Atom Z520
> 
> OS: ubuntu 14.04  trusty  (jessie/sid)
> 
> 
> 
> Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
> Logitech Radio
> Logitech UE Radio
> O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers 
> UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers
> UPnPBridge - Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker
> UPnPBridge - Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker
> UPnPBridge - PURE One Flow internet radio
> Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio
> SB Player - Fire TV
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS: Where is SQLITE located, which came w/ LMS install?

[Michael Herger]

So, that means 'installing' / running a seperate instance of sqlite will
not interfere or harm w/ LMS, correct?


Yes, they can live side by side. They could even be using different 
versions of the SQLite libraries. As long as you don't try to share the 
database files.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Prevent rescan on adding a playlist

[Michael Herger]

Is that the same as 'Disks and Folders' on the Web GUI?  If so, when I
select an m3u all I get is the ability to add it to favourites, not to
play it, whereas I can play flacs (etc).


Hmm... I did expect some problems, but would not have thought playing 
would be one of them :-). I'll look into this.


Would d'n'd to the web UI work?


I'm currently on Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1444236574 @ Thu
Oct 8 04:05:05 UTC 2015 - I'm very happy to move on to a recent version
if that helps.


I don't think this has changed a lot since October. But please try the 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Squeezebox server stopped working after upgrade to Jessie on raspberrypi

[Michael Herger]

wget -O logitechmediaserver_all.deb $(wget -q -O - 
"http://www.mysqueezebox.com/update/?version=7.9.0=1=1=deb;)



would you please let me know how to change your script in order to
download the ARM .deb package only?


In above URL replace the '...os=deb' with 'os=debarm'.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Debian packages for 7.9 ARM/x86_64

[Michael Herger]

Just to let you know that the ARM package for my Raspberry PI Zero with
Debian Jessie is working like a charm


Thanks for the confirmation. I don't have a Zero to test with (but I did 
assume it would work, considering it's basically the same as its big 
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Debian packages for 7.9 ARM/x86_64

[Michael Herger]

I've added an i386 package. Please give it a try:

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=7.9

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] "look for new and changed media files" rescan issues

[Michael Herger]

Agreed that is a solution but when, due the size of my music library, a
full clear library and rescan takes days rather than hours, this
"solution" doesn't work so well.


Days?!? What library size is this? And what hardware and operating 
system? Even with the largest collection I've heard of should a scan not 
take that long.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] "look for new and changed media files" rescan issues

[Michael Herger]

But really all this is off topic since it does not address the issue of
why a "look for new and changed mediafiles" rescan does not clear
deleted audio files from the library (aka database), which is
independent of the size of the library (aka database).


Fair enough. But please make sure you've set the memory options to "max" 
in Settings/Advanced/Performance anyway...


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Perl problems with LMS 7.9 on Debian sid

[Michael Herger]

I am also using Debian Sid, which is up-to-date. But I still have an


What CPU? What would "perl -v" tell you?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Perl problems with LMS 7.9 on Debian sid

[Michael Herger]

 > sudo /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver -d


Oh, don't start it this way. You'll have to do something like

/etc/init.d/logitechmediaserver start

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