Re: Removing the Consultants Page

2002-11-27 Thread David Graham
//www.bug-track.com/ * http://www.fixafest.nu/ * http://www.ipipi.com/ * http://www.juliannegiffin.com/ * http://www.pizzahut.com.au/ * http://www.raibledesigns.com/ * http://www.rollerweblogger.org/ * http://www.ipayment.co.za/ * http://www.windsurfpassion.com/ -Ted. 11/27/2002 12:32:31 AM, David Graham &l

Removing the Consultants Page

2002-11-26 Thread David Graham
I think Ted is in favor of dropping the Consultants page. I am as well and if you all agree then I think we should remove it. I'm personally tired of handling the requests for new links and policing the rules. David _ STOP MO

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-26 Thread David Graham
AIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:59:52 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, David Graham wro

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
As soon as you start using the single character prefix, we'll start getting questions like, "Is the h taglib the same as the html taglib?". If Struts goes to single character prefixes, then you should too but I really don't want to confuse new people with this. It's not rocket science but I kn

RE: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
is would make it more useful: I was thinking of reducing the prefixes in my struts-xdoclet app from: html -> h logic -> l bean -> b tiles -> t nested -> n Would this create too much confusion (even though it would require less typing?)? It much rather type Matt > -Ori

Re: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
I don't see what advantage the tag has over hand coding the html. Looks like the same amount of work to me. David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Enhancement

Re: Enhancement Request - add label and labelKey to form elements

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
I think it's great to use label elements but I wouldn't use what you proposed. My labels are typically in a separate table cell than the input field and the tag wouldn't handle that. If we did add this support I would be in favor of the labelKey attribute but not the label attribute. We shou

Re: Consultant Listing Qualifications

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
blematic, and we want to drop the whole thing, I wouldn't complain. (The day I did it, I said I would live to regret it =:0) -Ted. 11/24/2002 10:51:46 PM, David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What criteria does a company/person have to meet to be posted on the >consultants page?

Re: PlugIn, ApplicationConfig and Deprecated

2002-11-25 Thread David Graham
My personal preference is to remove ApplicationConfig altogether since it hasn't been in a release but other committers don't feel the same way. I empathize with your situation but you need to educate your QA people that they're being rediculous (easier said than done). David From: "Cump

Consultant Listing Qualifications

2002-11-24 Thread David Graham
What criteria does a company/person have to meet to be posted on the consultants page? All I see is that Struts has to be mentioned but does that have to be on the homepage, within 2 clicks, etc? Also, should only companies be listed here or individuals as well? I don't think we should be li

RE: Struts logo

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
LOL, that last one was great. Thanks, David From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Struts logo Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:36:29 -0500 > +1 from me. I'm not an artist by

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests? Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:53:28 -0500 David Graham wrote: I've always found it amusing that people are worried about page authors totally screwing up the application by executing arbitrary code. Who are these rogue page authors

Re: Struts logo

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
+1 I've always thought the logo could be a bit flashier. How would we pick the winner? A vote by the committers? David From: Emmanuel Boudrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts logo Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:30

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
I've always found it amusing that people are worried about page authors totally screwing up the application by executing arbitrary code. Who are these rogue page authors you're hiring that will destroy your app? "We can't pass anything but a value bean with read only properties to this idiot p

Re: Velocity vs. JSP: objective tests?

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
I believe the Velocity site has a comparison to JSP. Of course, they like Velocity better. If it's important that new developers be productive immediately I would go with JSP because that's a java standard that they will already know. David From: micael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "St

Re: pre-populated ActionForms / suggestion [patch] for beta1.1b2

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
The best way to go about this is by creating an enhancement request in bugzilla and attaching a patch to it, not just code. I think your idea is interesting though :-). David From: "Thomas Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTE

RE: bloated docs? [was: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc/faqs netbeans.xmlproject.xml newbie.xml]

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?" - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PR

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/doc/faqs netbeans.xml project.xml newbie.xml

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
I think you meant to say JNI instead of JNDI calls to the OS. It's a bit misleading to say it's fast as hell on Windows without mentioning that it runs on Linux as well. SWT is what Swing should have been. Native calls for OS supported widgets, java imitations for other widgets. Dave F

Re: Struts Tools

2002-11-22 Thread David Graham
The Tomcat plugin is quite useful as well. I'm using the SolarEclipse plugin for jsp and xml formatting but it's still in the early stages of development. I like the DBEdit plugin for viewing databases. This is a good site for finding Eclipse plugins: http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/inde

Re: Constants for EL / JSTL

2002-11-21 Thread David Graham
I was talking about general constant issues, not the Struts specific constants. I don't think we need any Struts specific stuff for this. David From: "edgar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Constants for EL / JST

Re: RequestProcessor and processValidate

2002-11-19 Thread David Graham
I wasn't chewing you out, just clarifying :-). David From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: RequestProcessor and processValidate Date: Tue,

Re: RequestProcessor and processValidate

2002-11-19 Thread David Graham
After you form passes validation you can validate the business rules by copying the form data into your VO and calling some business method. The form validation is only meant to check things like, "Is this a credit card number format?" or "Is this a valid email format?". You need to call a bu

Re: Source Code

2002-11-19 Thread David Graham
I think you could just copy the license into a file and distribute it with your software. Or, if you have an "about" page you could display it there. David From: Edgar Dollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Struts Developers List' <[EMAIL PRO

RE:

2002-11-18 Thread David Graham
Original Message- > From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, David Graham wrote: > > > The tag only renders in xhtml if the locale > attribute is also > > set to true. Users are confused by this and I'm not sure > why it was c

Re: FW: Release schedule

2002-11-18 Thread David Graham
Why is this needed? Developers can post their patch to the bugzilla report and committers can apply it. David From: "Bill Chmura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FW: Release schedule Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:13:15

struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org

2002-11-18 Thread David Graham
The tag only renders in xhtml if the locale attribute is also set to true. Users are confused by this and I'm not sure why it was coded that way. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks, David _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com Viru

Re: Forwards, Absolute URIs and Leading Slash [LONG]

2002-11-18 Thread David Graham
st" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Forwards, Absolute URIs and Leading Slash [LONG] Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:13:05 -0500 11/16/2002 9:19:51 PM, David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I was trying to fix http://nagoya.apac

Re: [POLL] Version Numbers in TLD URIs

2002-11-18 Thread David Graham
ys thought that was sloppy. Does the "simplified" configuration mean that deveopers lose control over versioning? (a la Microsoft and Explorer) -Ted. 11/17/2002 10:08:02 PM, David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Currently Struts defines the TLD URIs containing version numb

Re: [POLL] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-18 Thread David Graham
Thanks Ted. I disagree about the -1 thing though. We shouldn't be throwing that around lightly. I think it's better to state disagreement and if it comes to a vote use -1. Dave From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Develop

[VOTE] Version Numbers in TLD URIs

2002-11-17 Thread David Graham
Currently Struts defines the TLD URIs containing version numbers like this http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/tags-html-1.1 This means that you must change the uri in every jsp when upgrading. I propose we define the uris like: http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/tags-html making it easier for peopl

Forwards, Absolute URIs and Leading Slash

2002-11-16 Thread David Graham
I was trying to fix http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11021 but got rather confused along the way. The problem seems to be that RequestUtils.forwardURL() always prepends the context path even for absolute urls. The version comments seem to go back and forth on how to behave wit

RE: cvs commit:jakarta-struts/contrib/struts-el/src/test/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/logicTestELMatchTag.java TestELNotMatchTag.java

2002-11-15 Thread David Graham
It must be reassuring to Struts users to see people like us at the helm ;-). Dave _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

RE: cvs commit:jakarta-struts/contrib/struts-el/src/test/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/logicTestELMatchTag.java TestELNotMatchTag.java

2002-11-15 Thread David Graham
4 chickens?" - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 12:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: cvs commit: > jakarta-struts/contrib/struts-el/src/

RE: cvs commit:jakarta-struts/contrib/struts-el/src/test/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/logicTestELMatchTag.java TestELNotMatchTag.java

2002-11-15 Thread David Graham
uilds fine and the test suite (not including tomcat 3.2) executes successfully. James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org "If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?" - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of sup

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-struts/contrib/struts-el/src/test/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/logicTestELMatchTag.java TestELNotMatchTag.java

2002-11-15 Thread David Graham
Somebody got a little crazy with the Eclipse "Organize Imports" feature ;-). Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/contrib/struts-el/src/test/org/apache/strutsel/taglib/logic TestELMatc

Re: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-13 Thread David Graham
The developer must make a choice between html and xhtml. This choice is minor as xhtml is compatible with current browsers. Included jsps should not be influenced by the includer file; they must decide if they're xhtml or html. That's the point behind the tag, to tell struts html library t

Re: Struts 1.0.2 + Xerces 2.2.0

2002-11-13 Thread David Graham
Have you looked for -- within comments in the xml files your parsing? The error seems pretty clear. David From: Jeanfrancois Arcand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts 1.0.2 + Xerces 2.2.0 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 1

RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-13 Thread David Graham
have the be a version 2.0 enhancement because it would likely break some people's pages. Anyone agree? --- - Nayan Hajratwala - Chikli Consulting LLC - http://www.chikli.com -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:34 PM

RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-13 Thread David Graham
playing with it. David From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:10:29 -0800 (PST) On We

RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-13 Thread David Graham
Forgot this: 5. Tags nested in will not be rendered in xhtml regardless of any other settings. Dave From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [VOTE] How to implement

RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-13 Thread David Graham
What if we did this: 1. Store a boolean in the request under Globals.XHTML_KEY 2. would set the boolean to true 3. (new tag) would set the boolean to true 4. People could manually set the request attribute if they choose and realize potential problems. This frees you from using , and allows

Re: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-13 Thread David Graham
e to futz (technical term :) with the value in their pages. -- Martin Cooper On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, David Graham wrote: > I've updated that html taglib tags to output xhtml when they are nested in a > tag. This was very simple to do and resulted in > minor code changes. Users have s

Re: OT - XFORMS Tag:

2002-11-13 Thread David Graham
This will probably be handled by JavaServer Faces. David From: "V. Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT - XFORMS Tag: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:58:55 -0500 One day form processing will be done like this: 1.

RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********

2002-11-12 Thread David Graham
st I can run two whole instances of Netscape 6.0 ;) James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org "If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?" - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercom

RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********

2002-11-12 Thread David Graham
ou rather use? Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?" - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* wi

RE: [VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-12 Thread David Graham
the elements nested in the "html" element), which I assume is what you've already done, is preferable to choice 2 (runtime determination). > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > > I've updated that html taglib tags to ou

[VOTE] How to implement XHMTL support

2002-11-12 Thread David Graham
I've updated that html taglib tags to output xhtml when they are nested in a tag. This was very simple to do and resulted in minor code changes. Users have suggested this approach: 1. Add Globals.XHTML_KEY which is a boolean request scoped attribute 2. html tags check for that request attri

RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.******** README *********

2002-11-12 Thread David Graham
ruts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org "If you were plowing a field, which would you rather use? Two strong oxen or 1024 chickens?" - Seymour Cray (1925-1996), father of supercomputing > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > Sent:

RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*

2002-11-12 Thread David Graham
uot;'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Replacing Action.* with Globals.* Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:49:49 -0800 > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:30 AM >

Re: Replacing Action.* with Globals.*

2002-11-12 Thread David Graham
at least I believe that's the decision that was arrived at), but I can't see where changing internal code to use Global references over Action references would be a bad thing. David Graham wrote: Is it ok to replace the Action constant references with Globals constant references in the Strut

RE: Changes for 2.0 (RE: Unclear semantics on form use for "wizards")

2002-11-11 Thread David Graham
ke it a new routine, call that routine from the constructor. Document the stuff so it's clear what's going on. If there's agreement, I'll submit patches. -b > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, Nov

Re: Changes for 2.0 (RE: Unclear semantics on form use for "wizards")

2002-11-11 Thread David Graham
ople that are concerned about compatibility. (I swear I hope that this hasn't been discussed already!!) best, -b > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: R

RE: Unclear semantics on form use for "wizards"

2002-11-11 Thread David Graham
ards" Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:56:32 -0500 > -Original Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@;apache.org] > Subject: RE: Unclear semantics on form use for "wizards" > > The missing link for a multi-page form is some way to tie > which page got >

RE: RE: Unclear semantics on form use for "wizards"

2002-11-11 Thread David Graham
If the documentation is vague, you can create a patch and post it to bugzilla. I will apply any valid documentation patch ASAP. Thanks, David From: "Brian Topping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Su

Re: Unclear semantics on form use for "wizards"

2002-11-11 Thread David Graham
+1 on defaulting to request scope at some point. It's easier for people to learn even though it is easy to change the default behavior. David From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

Replacing Action.* with Globals.*

2002-11-11 Thread David Graham
Is it ok to replace the Action constant references with Globals constant references in the Struts code? I would hate to do this and have to back out the changes. Thanks, Dave _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and

RE: Unclear semantics on form use for "wizards"

2002-11-11 Thread David Graham
Interesting, but then you're creating a programming language in XML. I think this logic should be in code. David From: "Karr, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Unclear semantics on

RE: Unclear semantics on form use for "wizards"

2002-11-11 Thread David Graham
You could put the reset code in its own class and use composition to reuse that logic. Your subclasses of ActionForm and DynaActionForm could use your reset class in their reset() methods. David From: "Jason Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sub Actions in an Action class

2002-11-08 Thread David Graham
This is a users list question, I'll forward it over there for you. David From: bachan s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sub Actions in an Action class Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:19:25

Re: javadoc & Weird state of org/apache/struts/util/AppException.java

2002-11-08 Thread David Graham
: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: javadoc & Weird state of org/apache/struts/util/AppException.java Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 10:41:37 -0500 David Graham wrote: Yes, I removed all the empty lines because it made the file very long. I'm not sure why it would

Re: javadoc & Weird state of org/apache/struts/util/AppException.java

2002-11-08 Thread David Graham
Yes, I removed all the empty lines because it made the file very long. I'm not sure why it would show up as a single line though with ^M. That character normally shows up from windows systems right? I used Eclipse to make the changes and it shows up fine in my editor. I would love to see som

RE: [Vote] Modify classloading in RequestUtils

2002-11-07 Thread David Graham
Do people still use Tomcat 3.2? It's not like they have to pay to upgrade to 4.1.12. Maybe this isn't such a big deal. Dave From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [V

Re: Action.java & Globals.java questions.

2002-11-06 Thread David Graham
Don't add new constants to Action, only to Globals. I'm against making Action extend Globals because that's not what inheritance is for. Yes, it would be convenient but let's not go down that path. I'm confused about why the Action constants aren't deprecated, can someone explain? I thought

ResourceBundle Use?

2002-11-05 Thread David Graham
Why doesn't Struts use the java's ResourceBundle class for dealing with localized messages? It seems that MessageResources is a combination of ResourceBundle and message formatting features, is that right? If we use ResourceBundle internally, it seems that we could save some code. For exampl

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14054] - Rename "Application" components to "Module"

2002-11-04 Thread David Graham
-0500 Subject: Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14054] - Rename "Application" components to "Module" From: "David Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2002-11-04 18:04:41 [Download message RAW] > +1 on the ModuleConfig interface (Struts needs more of these). > I'

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 14054] - Rename "Application" components to "Module"

2002-11-04 Thread David Graham
+1 on the ModuleConfig interface (Struts needs more of these). I'm not sure about StandardModuleConfigImpl though. Where will the user see this *Impl class if anywhere? If the user never has to write this then I suggest ModuleConfigImpl. If they have to write it somewhere then drop the "Impl

RE: Attribute "lowsrc" of "html:img" is non-compliant?

2002-11-01 Thread David Graham
I didn't see it in the 3.2 spec either. We should deprecate this attribute, make its implementation do nothing, and remove it post 1.1. David From: "Byrne, Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subjec

Re: Struts taglib

2002-10-31 Thread David Graham
I didn't find it too hard to tell what tags matched. I haven't found a need for many of the tags anyways. I mostly use jstl's forEach, if, out, and message tags and the struts html tags. The struts counterparts are pretty easy to guess. David From: Alan P Sexton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply

Re: Struts taglib

2002-10-31 Thread David Graham
I agree with Craig. We shouldn't put any more effort into the taglibs than we need to. I am concerned about enhancing a few of the tags like errors and messages because they are struts specific and very useful. David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Develope

RE: Building Struts

2002-10-31 Thread David Graham
That's exactly what I was thinking. Craig, you obviously know what you're doing and can build nightlies and get your build environment exactly how you want it. This idea wasn't really targeted towards those users. I just thought it would be helpful to have an environment ready to go for peopl

Re: Building Struts

2002-10-31 Thread David Graham
s Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Building Struts Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:05:45 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:32:31 -0700 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Building Struts

2002-10-30 Thread David Graham
s Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:40:21 -0800 (PST) I wholeheatedly agree. Just had to redo my environment on a new machine. +1. -james --- David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm starting to work on source patches so I'm > setting up my build > environment for test

Building Struts

2002-10-30 Thread David Graham
I'm starting to work on source patches so I'm setting up my build environment for testing purposes. I've found this exercise both mundane and time consuming. Would it be worthwhile to post a zipped up build environment with a build.properties that's ready to go? Getting all the appropriate j

Re: Powered By Page

2002-10-30 Thread David Graham
To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Powered By Page Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:21:16 -0500 Most were posted before the criteria came into effect. It would be good to clean house sometime, and then enforce the criteria proactively. -Ted. 10/30/2002 9:06:59 PM, David

Powered By Page

2002-10-30 Thread David Graham
I understand the criteria to be included on the powered by page to be that you either: 1. Put the powered by struts logo on a page or 2. include item 3 from the apache license on the page. Have I missed anything? How many pages do you have to put the logo on? Some of the sites listed need a

Re: Nice labels for inputs.

2002-10-29 Thread David Graham
Craig, We should consider adding an id attribute once Struts requires a jsp 1.2 container. I'm not sure if/when that will be but there seems to be lots of confusion on this. David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

RE: [SURVEY] HREF attribute for FormTag

2002-10-29 Thread David Graham
elopers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [SURVEY] HREF attribute for FormTag Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:10:25 -0800 > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] >

Re: Struts with style

2002-10-29 Thread David Graham
I think it's definitely an improvement but it opens up other issues. Personally, I don't like Arial and prefer Verdana because I think it's easier to read and looks more professional. Now, someone can come along and say, "Hey, Verdana stinks!". I assume you did this by applying a simple style

Re: Modules vs. Sub-Applications

2002-10-28 Thread David Graham
+1 on rename and deprecation. David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Modules vs. Sub-Applications Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:48:05 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 29 Oct 2002

RE: [SURVEY] HREF attribute for FormTag

2002-10-28 Thread David Graham
t;that contains them or to the root directory of the server > (if they start > >with a slash). The first part of a URL path for a JSP page > is called the > >context path, and it may vary from installation to > installation. You should > >therefore avoid ha

RE: [SURVEY] HREF attribute for FormTag

2002-10-28 Thread David Graham
er the best means of achieving support for the 'page-relative' URLs Bergsten describes is by adding an 'href' attribute or changing the FormTag so that it wouldn't prepend the context path unless the 'action' attribute started with a slash. I think the latter i

RE: [SURVEY] HREF attribute for FormTag

2002-10-28 Thread David Graham
You still haven't addressed why you want to do this. If can't lookup the form bean because the action doesn't match an action mapping, then the other html form related tags are basically useless. You could just use straight html for this. David From: "Taylor, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Modules vs. Sub-Applications

2002-10-28 Thread David Graham
anahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Modules vs. Sub-Applications Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:17 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: >

Re: Modules vs. Sub-Applications

2002-10-28 Thread David Graham
Would it make sense to keep the current names but deprecate and replace them in a future version (maybe 2.0)? David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Modules vs.

Modules vs. Sub-Applications

2002-10-28 Thread David Graham
Going back to the discussion on calling modules "sub-applications", I think it was decided to call everything a module to eliminate confusion. The naming of Struts 1.1 classes and methods is not helping this situation. For example, we have an ApplicationConfig class and RequestUtils.selectApp

Re: Struts IRC Channel

2002-10-26 Thread David Graham
I for one, will not be answering questions on another forum. It's hard enough to keep up with the questions on this list :-). Also, I think it's a good that there be a central place to ask Struts questions. David From: Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL P

RE: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/taglib /htmlFormTag.java

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
I'm following the html 4.01 spec stated here: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.3 It says it's case insensitive and the example further down the page uses the lower case form "post". All other Struts generated attributes and elements are lower case so I changed this to match.

Re: Validator Integration

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
ost likely) and it will bring it's own pluggable field validators ... and what else will we need? David Graham wrote: Actually, I think that's what I really wanted without knowing it :-). Struts already provides pluggable RequestProcessors for the ActionServlet, maybe it should

RE: Validator Integration

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
sure about the former." - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) > -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Validator Integration > > > I'm mainly suggesti

Re: Validator Integration

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
that wiring more in would be more convenient, but there's such a thing as being too convenient. (A lesson Turbine learned the hard way.) -Ted. 10/25/2002 1:42:20 PM, David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thanks for the input Ted. I was only suggesting changing struts-confi

Re: Validator Integration

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
fferent class if you want to use the validator framework to validate form input? I do agree that having two separate subclasses which vary only in how they key to validation rules is unnecessarily complex, but otherwise, what benefits do such a change bring? Joe At 11:42 AM -0600 2002/10/

Re: Validator Integration

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
ndalone file. As mentioned elsewhere, there were two classes since some people (or maybe one person) wanted to key on the action path rather than the action attribute. But if we were patch this to use a switch, mores the better. -Ted. 10/25/2002 10:34:52 AM, David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Validator Integration

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
, 25 Oct 2002 10:01:25 -0500 I just forwarded the discussion to you, David. It happened on the 23rd. David Graham wrote: It struck me the other day that the validator could be further integrated into struts. I'm not sure about my ideas so I want to get your thoughts. W

Re: Validator Integration

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
ntegration Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:44:34 -0700 (PDT) See Ted's response to my very same question a couple of days ago. -james --- David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My idea is that the ValidatorActionForm and > ValidatorForm (why are there 2?) ___

Validator Integration

2002-10-25 Thread David Graham
It struck me the other day that the validator could be further integrated into struts. I'm not sure about my ideas so I want to get your thoughts. Why should people need to subclass ValidatorActionForm instead of ActionForm to use the validator? What forms have you built that didn't need val

Re: Resending Deploying in Jrun 3.0 - Please respond

2002-10-24 Thread David Graham
From the javadoc for NoSuchMethodError: "Thrown if an application tries to call a specified method of a class (either static or instance), and that class no longer has a definition of that method. Normally, this error is caught by the compiler; this error can only occur at run time if the def

AppException

2002-10-23 Thread David Graham
From browsing the archives and looking at source code I'm still a bit confused about AppException. It seems like the only benefit it provides is to let you specify a message key and replacement values for the error message. Is that right? I'm concerned about application exceptions extending a

Re: HTML formatting of newline characters with bean:write tag

2002-10-23 Thread David Graham
If this is a common problem, maybe we could add a method to Action like breakNewLines(String) that does this transformation. The tag should not do any transformation, just display what it's given. What do you think? Dave From: Arron Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers

volunteers.xml not building?

2002-10-23 Thread David Graham
I modified volunteers.xml some time ago to include my info as a committer but it isn't reflected in volunteers.html. Is this file not included in the build? Dave _ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread David Graham
PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:46:26 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:54:14 -0600 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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