[freenet-support] Backed off weirdness in freenet 1232

2009-08-21 Thread Toni Bergman
- Freenet 0.7.5 Build #1232 build01232 - Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771 So far I've understood the backoff percentages in advanced connection details but no longer. The attached picture shows what I'm saying. What ticks me off the most is being connected for over 90 minutes to peers that are

Re: [freenet-support] High cpu usage when starting build 1229

2009-08-21 Thread Dennis Nezic
It appears that the problem only occurs in conjunction with FMS (0.3.41 at least). That is, freenet (I believe the problem started with 1229, and it's still here with 1232. I really should test 1228) will run normally -- and only after I launch FMS does it skyrocket to consume all available cpu pow

Re: [freenet-support] [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7 build 1229, 1230 and 1231

2009-08-21 Thread Matthew Toseland
1232 fixes a severe bug preventing startup on some nodes. Sorry, we did try to test it, but apparently messed up... On Friday 21 August 2009 18:11:43 Matthew Toseland wrote: > Please upgrade to 1231. Changelogs: > 1229: > - XML vulnerability warnings fixes. > - Fix an NPE in plugins. > - Minor in

Re: [freenet-support] [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7 build 1229, 1230 and 1231

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
Congrats :) On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Please upgrade to 1231. Changelogs: > 1229: > - XML vulnerability warnings fixes. > - Fix an NPE in plugins. > - Minor internal stuff. > 1230: > - Detect the XML vulnerability on OS/X. Try to detect it on OpenJDK, maybe > not

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Pyattaev
You know, I do think that freenet is a good idea. And in fact, until freenet users will consume too much traffic, i'm not going to ban them. Because i don't want to. In fact, right now 100.0% of major traffic consumers are using *other* P2P networks. Mostly torrents, some use mule & DC, but they ar

[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1229, 1230 and 1231

2009-08-21 Thread Matthew Toseland
Please upgrade to 1231. Changelogs: 1229: - XML vulnerability warnings fixes. - Fix an NPE in plugins. - Minor internal stuff. 1230: - Detect the XML vulnerability on OS/X. Try to detect it on OpenJDK, maybe not very well. - Clarify an english string ("Completed downloads to temporary space" not

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Artefact2
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:57:15PM +0100, VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > Evan Daniel wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V > > Anarhist wrote: > >> Luke771 wrote: > >>> Alex Pyattaev wrote: > Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that > try to conn

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
Evan Daniel wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V > Anarhist wrote: >> Luke771 wrote: >>> Alex Pyattaev wrote: Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed tell you. Hope I'll ba

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Jim Cook
At 09:15 AM 8/21/2009, Evan Daniel wrote: >On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Victor Denisov wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Luke771 wrote: > >> What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users > >> wont be that easy to catch. > > > > No, they

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Alex Pyattaev wrote: > >> He has stated that the network does not allow "P2P applications" running >> Freenet >> as pure darknet will technically be "F2F", now we can start arguing >> whether F2F >> is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we acce

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Pyattaev
> He has stated that the network does not allow "P2P applications" running > Freenet > as pure darknet will technically be "F2F", now we can start arguing whether > F2F > is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that > F2F > and P2P are different, then people who haven't

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote: > Luke771 wrote: >> Alex Pyattaev wrote: >>> Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that >>> try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed >>> tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before yo

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
Luke771 wrote: > Alex Pyattaev wrote: >> Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that >> try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed >> tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so >> that I can sleep well knowing that my bos

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Victor Denisov wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Luke771 wrote: >> What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users >> wont be that easy to catch. > > No, they'll be extremely easy to catch, along with their friends' IP

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luke771 wrote: > What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users > wont be that easy to catch. No, they'll be extremely easy to catch, along with their friends' IP addresses. Detect local darknet nodes via generic traffic analysi

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luke771 wrote: > If you do detect any nodes, pleaser tell us because that would mean that > Freenet must be fixed. > thanks for your help. No, it means no such thing. Freenet is *extremely* vulnerable to local traffic analysis, as its traffic pattern

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Victor, you basically repeat my idea (about the harvester), so i will > think about implementation. Statistics method is not an option, almost > the same stats are shown for online games (especially real-time) that > utilize UDP. almost constant, mos

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Luke771
Alex Pyattaev wrote: > Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that > try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed > tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so > that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know a

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Luke771
Alex Pyattaev wrote: > I'm a system administrator of a private home network, providing > internet to subscribers via ethernet. The corporate policy prohibits > the use of ANY p2p network by subscribers. The question is - is it > possible to detect freenet nodes on my LAN? I could indeed use > c

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Pyattaev
Victor, you basically repeat my idea (about the harvester), so i will think about implementation. Statistics method is not an option, almost the same stats are shown for online games (especially real-time) that utilize UDP. almost constant, mostly symmetrical(not always, e.g. spring produces asymme

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Victor Denisov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd suggest detecting Freenet nodes by their UDP traffic usage. No amount of VoIP or gaming activity will generate a near-constant UDP stream to ~20 external nodes. If your firewall/billing/traffic logging software provides for this, I think it'll be t

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Alex Pyattaev
Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know about the freenet users in the LA

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Søren Bredlund Caspersen
Hopefully the answer to Alex's question is: It can't be done. If he can detect freenet nodes on his network, you must assume that governments and the like can as well. I would rather we help Alex try (and hopefully fail) in detecting nodes on his private home network, than just ignore the fact tha

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Ermanno Baschiera
Portscanning? I tried nmap on my node, but it can't identify the application. I don't know if other tools are able to. -ermanno 2009/8/21 Alex Pyattaev : > I'm a system administrator of a private home network, providing internet to > subscribers via ethernet. The corporate policy prohibits the us

Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread bimbek
I don't know about others, but I would not will to help you. 2009/8/21 Alex Pyattaev > I'm a system administrator of a private home network, providing internet to > subscribers via ethernet. The corporate policy prohibits the use of ANY p2p > network by subscribers. The question is - is it possi