RE: [freenet-support] Timed content
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:11:14 +0200 From: daniele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Timed content To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed I was thinking about the incredible amount of space that is used within freenet to hold contents that no one will never try to retrieve, because, for example, they are obsolete. If the person that puts the content on freenet knows that, for example, within 1 week, it will be obsolete, because of newer releases or because no one will know no more about its existence (eg: files shared via frost), or for anything else, it would be great if he could specify a time when every node keeping parts of the file can delete them (removing the file from freenet). Such a function is not necessary since Freenet will push the least popular content out in order to make room for new inserts. That way it will never run out of space. If something becomes obsolete, one must assume that it will become less popular and thus fade from the net all by itself in time. So why make a manual procedure for something that works perfectly automatically? Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] How does the noderef work?
Hi. I am at a bit of a loss as to how the noderef is managed by the individual Freenet node and the upgrade script. I am running Freenet with do announce, which I figure has the purpose of telling the world that I exist and would like to be added to other peoples list of nodes. At the same time I assume that I am building up my own internal list of good contact nodes by simply surfing Freenet and thus interacting with the network. But whenever I update, I get two files - the jar and a much lager noderef. Assuming that the latter contains a list of known good contact nodes, will this file then overwrite the one I have in my system already? Or maybe append itself to it? Or is it simply discarded by my node because it already has one? If the one I've built by running and using Freenet simply gets overwritten by the noderef, wouldt that mean that my node have to integrate itself into the network from scratch everytime I update? To add to my confusion, I've noticed that people often get the advice to re-seed when complaining about too many RNF's, and they are even provided with a special link for that. Isnt re-seed what we all do automatically everytime we update? Is the noderef from that special link better than the one I get every time I upgrade? Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Freenet Expectations
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:54:35 + (UTC) From: Wayne McDougall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Re: Freenet Expectations] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ...The government in New Zealand has decided that 256/256 is the highest broadband speed that our telecom monomoply needs to make available to competitors. :-( ...128/128 is the fastest connection available domestically without a monthly bandwidth cap... Wow Wayne! What a nightmarish situation. Bandwidth capping? 128/128? You guys need to do some serious political work in order to get rid of that monopoly. We had a similar situation here (Denmark), but luckily the telecom monopoly was removed in the mid nineties before the internet took off for real. Btw. cant you get internet feed from cable- and/or electricity-companies as well? That would create some competition. Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] RE: start-problems
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:55:53 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] RE: start-problems To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I installed from Portage, and I was amazed at how well it handled the install. I especially liked the pre-made init script... Yes, it works really well. And the default Blackdown JAVA-install works right out of the box too, eliminating the need for messing aroud with SUN JRE. I've had Freenet running on several distros, but Gentoo is definitely the easiest one to work with. Kudos to the people who integrated Freenet into the Portage tree. Those guys did a very fine job. How did you know to change the paths to /var/freenet and so on? In the ebuild you can see where it wants everything to go Cat /usr/portage/net-p2p/freenet/freenet-0.5.2.1-r8.ebuild Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] RE: start-problems
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 00:37:19 +0200 From: Steffen Schwientek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] start-problems To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I can´t connect to my freenet-core. If I point my browser to localhost:, i just get not found. I started the freenet-daemon using the gentoo freenet startup script, which certainly starts an java engine, but I don´t know if it also start freenet, since no log is written, and I can´t connect to the freenet port. Any suggestion? Hi Steffen I too am running Freenet from Gentoo (kernel 2.6.7), and my initial joy over finding it in the portage tree and thus being able to simply emerge it was quicly cooled by the fact, that the configuration E-build appears broken. It would simply freeze after asking for my port number, and never get further. This meant that the configuration file was never written. I solved that problem by installing Freenet on a Windows PC and simply copy the file freenet.ini to my Gentoo-box into /etc/freenet.conf. I shall post it at the end of this mail. As you see, it looks pretty normal apart from the file paths seedFile=/var/freenet/seednodes.ref diagnosticsPath=/var/freenet/stats logFile=/var/freenet/freenet.log nodeFile=/var/freenet/node routingDir=/var/freenet storeFile=/var/freenet/store Here you can also see, where the logfile ends up. Notice also that I have the line... mainport.allowedHosts=* ... which allows everybody on the internet to connect to Fred through my machine. This was only for testing purposes and should be changed to something less dangerously. Anyway - after you've gotten the freenet.conf taken care of (changed the paths, entered your own IP and made a port redirect in your router for whatever listenport you are using), it's simply a matter of starting the thing /etc/init.d/freenet start And if everything seems to run smoothly, let it be started automatically at boot... Rc-update add freenet default As far as checking whether it is running correctly, a ps -A should show you not one, but a lot of java processes. And of course you should also be able to connect to Fred in your browser. Freenet runs very well on the Blackdown-JAVA that Gentoo installs - and so does FIW. Good luck, J --- my freenet.conf [Freenet node] # Freenet configuration file # Note that all properties may be overridden from the command line, # so for example, java freenet.node.Main --listenPort 1 will cause # the setting in this file to be ignored # * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # * # * --=== READ THIS!!! READ THIS!!!READ THIS!!! =--- # * # * + VERY IMPORTANT!! + # * # * #something is a comment! # * %something is ALSO a comment! # * # * # * if you change any settings, REMOVE THE % IN THE BEGINNING OF THE LINE! # * # * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Lines that start with % are settings that have been unchanged from # default, and that are thus ignored by the node (so they don't linger # when we want to change the default settings). If you change these # settings you should remove the %. # This file was automatically generated by Freenet.scripts.Setup (at 02-07-2004 02:07:06) # The IP address of this node as seen by the public Internet. You only need to override this if it cannot be autodetected, for example if you have a NAT (a.k.a. IP Masquerading) firewall/router, in which case you will need to set it to the IP address or DNS name of the internet-side interface of the router, which needs to be static (www.dyndns.org and similar services can help here if you have a dynamic IP). ipAddress=Steffen Schwienteks IP goes here # The port to listen for incoming FNP (Freenet Node Protocol) connections on. listenPort=37407 # The port to listen for local FCP (Freenet Client Protocol) connections on. clientPort=8481 # A comma-separated list of hosts that may connect to the FCP port # (clientPort). If left blank, only the localhost will be allowed. If you set this, make sure localhost is included in the list or access won't be allowed from the local machine. # May be given as IP addresses or host names. fcpHosts=localhost,127.0.0.1,10.0.0.3 # If this is set then users that can provide the password can # can have administrative access. It is recommended that # you do not use this without also using adminPeer below # in which case both are required. %adminPassword=null # If this is set, then users that are authenticated owners # of the given PK identity can have administrative access. # If adminPassword is also set both are required. %adminPeer=null # Transient nodes do not give out references to themselves, and should # therefore not receive any requests. Set this to yes if you cannot # receive incoming connections, or
[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Retiring from the project
Conrad Sabatier wrote: I find Java's memory requirements to be totally unreasonable, its performance lackluster, and I've finally come to the conclusion that it was indeed a poor choice of language in which to implement a project of this size and complexity. As far as I see it, freenet is very much a project under development at the time, so therefore overall functionality and ease of coding should naturally take precedence over tweaking and local optimization on specific platforms. Conrad Sabatiers point is certainly valid enough. A little while back I took my linux box down for a 256MB memory update. When I started it back up, I was genuinely surprised over the substantial gain in speed and responsiveness I got from a measely 256MB upgrade - until I realized that I hadnt started freenet yet. When I did, performance went down the drain right away. I would imagine that freenet will eventually reach a point in its development cycle where both the networking protocol and the API are pretty fixed and no longer likely to undergo major changes. And at this time, the focus of the project should be switched to reduction of the system footprint and increasing the efficiency of execution on different platforms. I also imagine that freenet, once mature, will be a natural part of most major linux distros as one of the essentail networks that is supported out of the box - but that will not be in the form of a java app. Java is a great prototyping tool for the developers and programmers, but it is also the cause of many problems for the users. In fact I would estimate that 90% of the times that I have been called upon to assist someone in getting freenet to run, the difficulties have been caused by java rather than freenet itself. And it IS bloated and it DOES take up a lot of ressources - a fact that I see mentioned often in the mailing lists. I can imagine that this is also frustrating for the developers to read, since they cant do much about it - this is mainly in the hands of Sun Micro Systems... Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] RE: Re: What does a map-file look like?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:06:13 +0200 From: Rudolf Krist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Re: What does a map-file look like? To: Z Freenet SupportML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Garb schrieb: Then I heard something about a MAP-file, which I am lead to assume could be the solution to all my problems - or at least the ones not related to girls or money. It appears to be some sort of cross-reference between the real-world file-names and the URIs, but I have thus far been unable to find out exactly what it looks like or how to make them. When you use FIW, there you will find a feature called MetaDataBrowser, I'm not sure if that will help you, but there you could enter a freesite uri, like [EMAIL PROTECTED]/fuqid/10, to see what the mapfile of the freesite contains. You are right - that certainly seems to be exactly what I am looking for (if we exclude J.Lo's private phone number...). But where is that information actually located? It is not in the HTML-source of the page. Could it be in a special file with a name that FIW can somehow deduce from the URI of the main page? Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] What does a map-file look like?
Greetings freenetters. I have been using FIW for inserting sites, but because Im a hands-on kinda guy and a masochist, I would really like to try doing it a bit more manually. Unfortunately I dont seem to be quite smart enough to figure out how. My problem is the contruction of clickable links to files that are already in freenet. How do I do that? Initially I thought that I could just copy the keys from FUQID and put them in a hyperlink, but that doesnt work because the part of the address telling the browser where FRED is, is missing. And not everybody has him on 127.0.0.1, so I cant just put that in as part of the link. Then I heard something about a MAP-file, which I am lead to assume could be the solution to all my problems or at least the ones not related to girls or money. It appears to be some sort of cross-reference between the real-world file-names and the URIs, but I have thus far been unable to find out exactly what it looks like or how to make them. And Im still not certain, how that would solve my problem with telling the browser about freds location. Any of you brains out there have an idea or a pointer as to where I could look for info? If so, Ill declare you all saints, when I become the pope :-) Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Old Freenet
-Original Message- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:29:38 + From: Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Old Freenet To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 06:04:17PM +, Andrew Dickson wrote: Let's face it, freenet was working brilliantly this time last year... Content was slow, but it was accessible. At the moment freenet is dead in the water. The unstable network on the other hand is working pretty well. We should be merging the code in the next week or so, however the unstable network *is* rather small (100 nodes or so). Anyone who is willing to provide bug reports and upgrade their nodes daily should try the unstable branch however. Why is the stable network not reverting back to the older code until these new bugs are ironed out? Actually I have wondered a great deal about this myself. Why did Freenet break in the first place and - assuming that it happened through an error introduced by an update about a year ago - why wasn't the stable version reverted to the last working version, so we could have avoided paralyzing the entire net for a year? Even if the fix is allmost ready for the big launch, the other issues would be interesting to know about, just for historical reasons. Regards, Jesper ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
[freenet-support] Fiw tip - indirect insert
Like others, I too have had problems getting FIW to function correctly under Linux. My insert-attampts usually ended after a few hours when FIW would open as many JAVA-processes as the system would allow thus ultimatively crashing itself and Freenet. But when I run FIW on a Windows machine and let it connect to Freenet on a Linux box through the LAN, everythings works like a charm. So if you are having FIW problems, that might be a way to go, until things are back to normal. J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
[freenet-support] RE: Support Digest, Vol 5, Issue 17
-Original Message- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:28:03 -0800 From: Art Charbonneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet is fading away... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm a johnny-come-lately to Freenet, and I guess I came along a little too late to see it in action. It's sad, but Freenet seems to be fading away; fewer links work every day, and those that do have little content left. I've tried the boards at Frost, but other than a few testers, nonsense posters, and idiot flamers, there is no one there either. Reasonable questions posted to the Newbie Help board go unanswered by anyone, and searches find only 'offline' stuff. I think Reskill has summed it up pretty well. Ain't it a shame? I'll continue to run a node and provide some storage for a while, but the time will come, shortly, to shut it down for good. Will the last one out get the lights? Gee Art, that is a very pessimistic wiev of the future - overly so, I think. There is no doubt that the respected founders of Freenet made a major strategic blunder as they - in a well meaning effort to upgrade the technology - introduced a series of updates that ground everything to a halt and basically stopped Freenet right in its tracks, where it has now been standing for the better part of a year. An approach like this is bound to drive all the normal users and content providers away, leaving only hardcore techies and strong freedom-of-speech believers to hold the torch. The right way to do it (20/20 hindsight is so easy :-)would have been, to fork out development in stable/unstable a long time ago, and keep the stable release the last well working version (that would be from around March 2003 or something), and never ever introduce a new version unless it was 100% sure to improve performance - or, at least, not degrade it. Surely it must be possible to upgrade a network without shutting it down for years. But all that being said, I have no doubt that the developers are working hard to bring everything back to speed and I am confident that the end result will be an even better network than the one we lost in the beginning of the year. And once things are running smoothly again, the normal users will return, because Freenet is more needed than ever and it has no competitors - there really isnt anything like it. So hang in there Art. It is not a death you are witnessing - it is a (re)birth... Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
[freenet-support] Any tips for a good JAVA setup?
My node (like so many other these days) seems to have a hard time keeping stable, especially when trying to insert something with FIW. Mostly ending up with FIW starting a gazillion JAVA processes freezing itself, so I have to kill it off and re-start. Actually Freenet itself seems to run pretty smoothly, despite the fact that the load is consistently between 90 and 100%, but once FIW comes into play, things start getting crowded, even if I set FIW to only 5 threads. I would like to try tweaking Java a bit - maybe allocating it some more memory would help - but I dont really know anything about how to configure it. If anybody out there has any hot tips or good ideas, please feel free to come forward and share... Btw. I'm running a permanent under Linux. Regards, J ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
