Re: Seamonkey 2.0 in Debian, poor fonts
NoOp:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=w9ej5us=4
Maybe you may find this screenshot interesting. This time with AA. Left
SM2 und right SM1. Both using the same font, arial 11pt. The pictures
are taken with 'xmag -mag 10'.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm091101-b.png (12 KB)
Well, i don't see much difference, but perhaps i'm not looking close
enough. To the forcing of using arial 11pt:
- userChrome.css -
* {
font-size: 11pt !important;
font-family: arial !important;
}
---
Hartmut
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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 in Debian, poor fonts
Hartmut Figge: [...] By the way, since a few days a notice spurious crashes when starting SM 2.1. The not very illuminating message on an xterm is only 'Segfault'. Hm. Maybe my next build should be a debug one. Or i could wait until this problem vanishes. Surely more comfortable. :) Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)
Ant wrote: On 10/9/2009 9:18 PM PT, Ant typed: Clicking on the slider bar just above the '-' also works. It seems like just the button itself is dead. The '+' works fine. Yeah. Still annoying. Oh well. I hope Google fixes this soon! Still unresolved according to others and me in http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/maps/thread?tid=175c294b69535ab5hl=en ... :( I never got a reply from Google privately either via its contact support either. :( Works here. Local settings, drivers, etc. Those having the problem should share their configurations looking for commonalities. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)
Ron Hunter wrote: Ant wrote: On 10/9/2009 9:18 PM PT, Ant typed: Clicking on the slider bar just above the '-' also works. It seems like just the button itself is dead. The '+' works fine. Yeah. Still annoying. Oh well. I hope Google fixes this soon! Still unresolved according to others and me in http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/maps/thread?tid=175c294b69535ab5hl=en ... :( I never got a reply from Google privately either via its contact support either. :( Works here. Local settings, drivers, etc. Those having the problem should share their configurations looking for commonalities. It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF 2.5.4 but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)
On 11/1/2009 1:04 AM PT, propman typed: It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF 2.5.4 but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here.. Firefox v2.5.4??? I thought the last v2 was 2.0.0.20. -- The greatest enemies of ants are other ants, just as the greatest enemies of men are other men. --Auguste Forel /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: mailboxes/folders
On 01/11/2009 12:30 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Tim Mathews wrote: On 31/10/2009 11:33 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Tim Mathews wrote: Just took Seamonkey for a test drive, liked it and except for one thing would consider making it my complete browser e-mail and news package. With all the ties to the other Mozilla programs and similarities, I'm wondering if there's a way to have my various inboxes show up top left just like the inbox folder. To clarify, I have two or three IMAP accounts I also receive and in Thunderbird, just below the main (might be off on the terminology but I'm assuming people know what I mean) inbox, there are inboxes for each of the IMAP accounts and the rest of the various IMAP accounts' folders are further down just like in most e-mail programs. I find it really handy to have access to all the inboxes without having to scroll down the page and wonder if this can be done--either the actual IMAP folder inbox or a copy of it--having the other inboxes right below the main one? I've looked around but can't find a solution but, of course, it might just be different terminology than what I'm used to and I've missed it. Thanks, Tim would View Layout and set to three pane mode work? I'm using the Beta 2 version so, maybe, that's a difference as under View and Layout, there's no option for the number of panels. I think what you are describing sounds like the Smart Folders in TB 3.0b4. As of yet, that is not in SeaMonkey, though it may come in, once TB 3 goes final. I really don't like it in TB, to tell you the truth, since the program freezes while the data is being indexed. Lee Ahh, I wondered what was causing the freeze and I agree it is irritating. By the way, turns out I was mistaken in my version of Seamonkey it is version 2.0...I thought I had seen beta when I installed it. Anyway, thanks to all for the help, I'm taking a look at the vertical layout as soon as I finish my mail etc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Locking Cookies?
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/31/2009 11:59 AM, Rufus wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Is there some way to lock the cookies so that subsequent browsing does not change existing entries? With SM 1.1.x, I originally set cookies.txt to read-only. When a bug was introduced that caused read-only settings to be ignored, I then created a backup file called cookies.bak.txt; before launching SM, I would execute a script that would copy cookies.bak.txt over cookies.txt. Since cookies are now in an squlite database, this won't work. This is especially wanted while I browse bug reports in the bugzilla.mozilla.org database. I had a set of default cookies that caused Bugzilla to display in a certain way. If I changed a display, it would be only for that one session. Now if I change a display, that becomes the default display the next time I enter Bugzilla because my cookies are changed. For example, when I login, I want the short Find a Specific Bug display. However, if the last thing I did was run an advanced search, my next login gives me the long Advanced Search display. As another example, I want the default for query lists to be by bug number. If I do a sort on status, that now becomes my default. How can I lock a set of default cookies so that they will be in effect the next time I launch SeaMonkey? What I do is to wipe out all cookies (or at least any I don't want to keep) using the Cookie Manager, then set to allow all cookies or allow cookies from originating website only and accept cookies normally and navigate to all of the sites I want to lock in - starting with my Home page. Then close SM. Then I reopen SM and go back to the Cookie Manager and delete any delete any which show up that I don't wish kept. Then close/open, and set cookies to accept for current session only. After that, SM will retain a stable known set of cookies (within that set's expiration defaults) at startup, as it will now wipe all newly set cookies on session exit. This works (I've been doing this for years), and is another security management method for SM that I often recommend to colleagues at work. I generally do this for new/fresh installs of SM, or when changing site entry passwords that could be stored in a cookie with a keep me logged on option. You can also set the ask for other than session cookies pref so that you can add more on the fly if you wish, but I don't do that myself. I tried that. However, some of the cookies that I want kept get changed by some of the pages I visit. (This is definitely true when looking at bugzilla.mozilla.org bug reports.) When I then end the session, those changed cookies get deleted. Nothing remains of the original settings for those cookies. No, I haven't tried this with SM 2. The above describes what I experienced with SM 1.1.x. I will try it with SM 2 to see if this situation has changed. As mentioned, you can use the Cookie Manager to allow those specific sites to set cookies normally by exception. If you set the ask option, you'll get prompted...which can be a pain. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
No Need To LogOnto TheBox
With sm 1.1.18, I had to logon with ID and password each time I went to TheBox.bz to download files. With sm 2 I never need to logon. Whenever I select the url, I go right into the main page. Where is the setting in sm 2 that would control this?? chuck ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: DASH-DASH-SPACE SIGNATURE. WAS Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0
Hartmut Figge wrote: Paul B. Gallagher: Go into Mail Newsgroup Account Settings for your NG account and set up a different sig from the one you use for other purposes. I do have different sigs for different NGs or newsservers. Here is one of them. In fact, I have five different sigs for my five different mail accounts, and I can edit them all independently without affecting the others. And how do you avoid setting the sig delimiter by SM? ;) Hartmut I don't, as you can see, but I suppose if I wanted I could delete it manually... Can't see why I would, though, I missed that part of your remarks. My name appears at top when people reply, so I don't feel a need for a sandwich. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: DASH-DASH-SPACE SIGNATURE. WAS Re: Spoofing in SM 2.0
Paul B. Gallagher: Hartmut Figge wrote: And how do you avoid setting the sig delimiter by SM? ;) I don't, as you can see, but I suppose if I wanted I could delete it manually... Sure you can. But wouldn't it be nice, if this would not be necessary? Can't see why I would, though, I missed that part of your remarks. My name appears at top when people reply, so I don't feel a need for a sandwich. I'm not happy with my name in the sig like in this posting. It is part of it. But this is a personal preference. But i remember a question long ago, when an employee of a company asked, how the sig delimiter could be changed. In this company it was common, to use a special delimiter, like *** . Don't remember exactly what kind of delimiter it was, but not the normal sig delimiter. Well, at first he was happy when i mentioned my patch until he recognized, that the patch must be applied to the source before compiling. *g* -- Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth
NoOp wrote: On 10/31/2009 09:12 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Server: news.eternal-september.org Fails on port NNTP (119) and NNTPS (563 with SSL) with this message: http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/SS-NoPost-SM2.0.png And my first test post to this server failed silently as well. WTH? NOTE: since tested on another server with auth, fails there as well. Reported as bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525649 if anyone else seeing this would please confirm, vote, etc. This is kind of blocking migration from 1.1.18 for several groups with a customer support news server. Not sure what the issue might be Bill. I've migrated 4 machines (linux) from 1.1.18 to 2.0 and _all_ have no issues accessing news.eternal-september.org (port 563/SSL). I've 2 test machines that have yet to be migrated I'll see if I can get them done this weekend let you know if they have issues. Have you tried from a different profile? Yes. Tried different profile, machine, etc. Works from 1.1.18 every time, not from 2.0 any time. I notice that 2.0 unchecks my ask about more than 500 messages box, although it seems to ask. Ideas? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Strange SM2 behaviour
This is continuation to my post above. What tweaks are required to make SM 2 remember and autofill all my User ID's and passwords. It currently remembers only on some sites and on many like: https://www.chase.com/Chase.html I have to enter it every time. I did not have this issue with my previous SM 1.1.18 Thank you, Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts
Hartmut Figge schrieb: First i had posted about this issue several weeks ago in 4abf7628.4060...@hfigge.myfqdn.de, also dcsm.n-b. And later i thought that some numbers would be nice. *g* As it looks like we have a real problem with a reproducible and logically explainable cause, do we also have a bug report for that? And do we know if TB3 has the same issue? In any case, thanks for finding this out, those points above should IMHO be the next steps if they haven't been done already. Also, it might make sense to do a release notes entry for this under Known Issues, we'd need a text and the bug reference for that. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange SM2 behaviour
Alex wrote: This is continuation to my post above. What tweaks are required to make SM 2 remember and autofill all my User ID's and passwords. It currently remembers only on some sites and on many like: https://www.chase.com/Chase.html I have to enter it every time. I did not have this issue with my previous SM 1.1.18 Thank you, Alex Hello Alex, I have the same problem. Password Mngr SM 2 is O.K on some sites, however there was no issue with SM 1.1.18 I'm following this thread but if you get any tips please let me know. Mike ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 - sensitive info storage?..
Jens Hatlak schrieb: Rufus wrote: Under 1.1.18 there was a pref selection for encryption vise obscuring of sensitive data during storage. Is it correct to assume that SM 2.0 now encrypts sensitive data by default, and with what strength? Strong 128 bit?..I hope... No, it doesn't encrypt by default, only obscure. From what I know, that's not really true, we don't obsucre in the new password manager, we always encrypt, but default generate a key from an empty master password. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config
Rick Merrill schrieb: Where might the settings in about:config be described? Couldn't find it in 'help' (SM 1.18). about:config is not designed to be an interface for normal users, and nothing that should either be documented without holes, it's more a graphical advanced access point to everything that is stored in the preferences system, which includes knobs only developers or anyone doing debugging is supposed to tweak. You know, there's a reason why we put up a scary warning by default when you call up this about:config page. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange SM2 behaviour
On 11/1/2009 6:18 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: Alex wrote: This is continuation to my post above. What tweaks are required to make SM 2 remember and autofill all my User ID's and passwords. It currently remembers only on some sites and on many like: https://www.chase.com/Chase.html I have to enter it every time. I did not have this issue with my previous SM 1.1.18 Thank you, Alex Hello Alex, I have the same problem. Password Mngr SM 2 is O.K on some sites, however there was no issue with SM 1.1.18 I'm following this thread but if you get any tips please let me know. Mike If there is no fill-in, left-click once in the user ID area. If that doesn't work, double left-click in the user ID area. If that doesn't work, left-click in the password area, etc. There is a serious inconsistency in how Password Manager works. See bug #525737 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525737. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange SM2 behaviour
David, Thank you. It did work on some sites but it did not on the other ones. With previous version when I opened the link the ID and password was automatically filled. I think for now I'll stick with SM1.1.18 Alex David E. Ross wrote: On 11/1/2009 6:18 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: Alex wrote: This is continuation to my post above. What tweaks are required to make SM 2 remember and autofill all my User ID's and passwords. It currently remembers only on some sites and on many like: https://www.chase.com/Chase.html I have to enter it every time. I did not have this issue with my previous SM 1.1.18 Thank you, Alex Hello Alex, I have the same problem. Password Mngr SM 2 is O.K on some sites, however there was no issue with SM 1.1.18 I'm following this thread but if you get any tips please let me know. Mike If there is no fill-in, left-click once in the user ID area. If that doesn't work, double left-click in the user ID area. If that doesn't work, left-click in the password area, etc. There is a serious inconsistency in how Password Manager works. See bug #525737 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525737. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 - sensitive info storage?..
KaiRo - Robert Kaiser wrote: Keith Whaley schrieb: I have a feeling I might want to know a litle more detail about that last sentence. Would you kindly elaborate on ...we always encrypt, but default generate a key from an empty master password.? Not on personal mail, if you want a reply, please send a message to the newsgroup, I'm overburdened with mail and others might want to read the reply as well. Robert Kaiser Sorry, Robert. Sending you a personal reply was not my intention. This is virtually the only media group where I can't just hit Reply to add a amessage of my own to the group, but have to hit Reply All and then edit the To header. All other groups and lists I read send my response to the entire group, as they should. Not this one. Pressing Reply sends your response comment ONLY to the last person who posted to the list or group, as an individual. So, adding a response to a message I read is knee-jerk Reply, but that doesn't work with support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org. I have just done that with your message. Thanks for the reminder. -- keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)
Ant wrote: On 11/1/2009 1:04 AM PT, propman typed: It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF 2.5.4 but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here.. Firefox v2.5.4??? I thought the last v2 was 2.0.0.20. Typoshould have been 3.5.4 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)
On 11/1/2009 8:13 AM PT, propman typed: Ant wrote: On 11/1/2009 1:04 AM PT, propman typed: It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF 2.5.4 but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here.. Firefox v2.5.4??? I thought the last v2 was 2.0.0.20. Typoshould have been 3.5.4 Interesting. I wonder what bug was fixed in v3.5.4 over v3.5.3. I wonder if SM v1.1.x will get a fix too? I am sure SM2 (haven't upgraded yet0 has no problems. -- The shadows now so long do grow,... That brambles like tall cedars show,... Molehills seem mountains, and the ant... Appears a monstrous elephant. --Charles Cotton's poem /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is/was listening to a song on his home computer: Hans Zimmer - 160 BPM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
64 Bit Squeeze - SM2 Crashes
Downloaded seamonkey-2.0.tar.gz into /usr/local, uppacked it, went to /usr/local/seamonkey and ran ./seamonkey from a terminal window. Seamonkey started at the home page with the following output to the terminal window: Script started on Sun 01 Nov 2009 11:52:13 AM EST t...@dragon:/usr/local/seamonkey$ ./sear[Kmonkey LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so [/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so [/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so [/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/xnpwrapper.nppdf.so [/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/xnpwrapper.nppdf.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/xnpwrapper.libflashplayer.so [/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/xnpwrapper.libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-cone-plugin.so [/usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-cone-plugin.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so [/usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-mully-plugin.so [/usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-mully-plugin.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so [/usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-complex-plugin.so [/usr/lib/totem/gstreamer/libtotem-complex-plugin.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.16/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so [/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.16/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.16/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so [/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.16/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/xine-plugin/xineplugin.so [/usr/lib/xine-plugin/xineplugin.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/xnpwrapper.nphelix.so [/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/xnpwrapper.nphelix.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64] t...@dragon:/usr/local/seamonkey$ exit Script done on Sun 01 Nov 2009 11:53:29 AM EST I am running Debian Squeeze on a 64 bit system. Is SM2 a 64 bit release? If so, what is my problem? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to stop Seamonkey 2.0 from downloading email automatically?
On Oct 31, 2:31 pm, Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net wrote: I do find that once I have connected to an IMAP account, it will pull in messages without my action, even though I uncheck Check for new messages at startup, and Check every __ minutes. 1.1.18 did the same thing. You can click Synchronization and Storage, the Uncheck Keep messages for this account on this computer. That will stop it from downloading entire messages, in favor of headers only, ala newsgroups. The only way I know to keep it from checking is simply don't open the account. Hm. I did manage to keep the previous version of Seamonkey from doing this - it didn't pull messages OR headers. But I can't remember how. Thanks to everyone who responded. Sam ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Embedded flash videos loading failure under SM 2.0
User wrote: I tried it again by starting a new session of SM 2.0 after having quitted the application. The embedded Flash video does not work again and does not expand. It seems the problem occurs when the page is first accessed after SM 2.0 start up, but somehow works when SM 2.0 has been exercised later in the session. Some additional tests have been performed on this page discussed earlier: http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/30/technology/facebook_spammer/index.htm?postversion=2009103010 whose embedded Flash video fails to auto expand upon first loading under SM 2.0. Here are the observations noted during additional tests: * When a new browser tab or window is opened, and the page is loaded for the first time, the embedded Flash video window will FAIL to expand. Even if the link to the video is clicked and the window expands, the video frame will show a black window and clicking the play button will not start the video. * AFTER this page is displayed with video window expansion failure, and then SHIFT-RELOAD is clicked to force a reload of the same page, then the video window auto expands properly on the forced reload and a frame of the video image is then shown. If the play button is then clicked, the video will playback normally. * AFTER the page loads with successful auto expansion of Flash FLV video window, further clicking of browser RELOAD button or using keyboard shortcut CTRL-R or a forced reload by clicking SHIFT-RELOAD will always result in a page that loads with successful auto expansion of Flash video window. I am interested to hear from users who has SM 2.0 with no add-ons beyond the original 3 add-ons that came by default with SM 2.0, and have tried this page and the video window fails to expand the FIRST time the page is loaded, to confirm whether using the above SHIFT-RELOAD procedure will yield the same results as I have encountered during this test. Thanks for any input. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 64 Bit Squeeze - SM2 Crashes
Hell-o!
On 11/01/2009 06:11 PM, *Thomas H. George* wrote, and I quote (in part):
Downloaded seamonkey-2.0.tar.gz into /usr/local, uppacked it, went to
/usr/local/seamonkey and ran ./seamonkey from a terminal window.
Seamonkey started at the home page with the following output to the
terminal window:
-(Cut)-
I am running Debian Squeeze on a 64 bit system. Is SM2 a 64 bit
release? If so, what is my problem?
No, it's a 32bit release. But you can try this x86_64 version
(compiled on amd64 squeeze):
http://www.nazir.cz/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.0.en-US.linux-x86_64-nazir.tar.bz2
http://www.nazir.cz/seamonkey/seamonkey-2.0.en-US.linux-x86_64-nazir.tar.bz2.sig
http://www.nazir.cz/seamonkey/enigmail-0.97a-linux-x86_64.xpi
http://www.nazir.cz/seamonkey/enigmail-0.97a-linux-x86_64.xpi.sig
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SM2 Profiles
I upgraded to SM2 never thinking I would have a problem with my multiple profiles from SM 1.1.18 Oh Boy what a mistake, two days later and I still cant figure this out. What is the answer? I have uninstalled reinstalled, moved profiles tried the difficult profile import instructions, but eventually had no choice bu to return to 1.1.18 and start over. I have my SM(1.1.18) email and profiles in a separate and specific folder, to no avail it seems, is this the end of an era? time to move on maybe? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 Profiles
Richard schrieb: I upgraded to SM2 never thinking I would have a problem with my multiple profiles from SM 1.1.18 Oh Boy what a mistake, two days later and I still cant figure this out. What is the answer? What is the question? You have to migrate additional profiles manually: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth
Bill Davidsen ha scritto: Bill Davidsen wrote: Server: news.eternal-september.org Fails on port NNTP (119) and NNTPS (563 with SSL) with this message: http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/SS-NoPost-SM2.0.png And my first test post to this server failed silently as well. WTH? NOTE: since tested on another server with auth, fails there as well. Reported as bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525649 if anyone else seeing this would please confirm, vote, etc. Hello, I have the same problem using my ISP news server! I don't think it's a matter of authentication or not, cause I've tried all kind of settings and the error it's the same as yours. I can post using news.mozilla.org (which apparently works through giganews), but no way to send using the other news server (which is news.mclink.it which was working since I upgraded to SM 2.0). I will try now to delete the news server and retry. Stay tuned! bye Gabriele ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: opening tabs in background AND in new tabs in an existing window: THE SOLUTION
hi everyone, thanks for your help, I found this setting in about:config JUST TOGGLE IT TO: PREFERENCE NAME: browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground STATUS: userset TYPE: BOOLEAN VALUE: true Hope it's for use of more people than just me. DJ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 - sensitive info storage?..
Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Rufus wrote: Under 1.1.18 there was a pref selection for encryption vise obscuring of sensitive data during storage. Is it correct to assume that SM 2.0 now encrypts sensitive data by default, and with what strength? Strong 128 bit?..I hope... No, it doesn't encrypt by default, only obscure. From what I know, that's not really true, we don't obsucre in the new password manager, we always encrypt, but default generate a key from an empty master password. Robert Kaiser Omone esle linked me to this - http://luxsci.com/blog/master-password-encryption-in-firefox-and-thunderbird.html Does this info actually hold for SM 2.0? And does SM 2.0 use strong 128 bit encryption when doing so? I have a Master set in 2.0, and I do need to give it the Master to show passwords in the Manager. If not, can you point me at what SM 2.0 is actually doing? Really would like to see some feedback in the dialog box as to encrypted vice simply obscured like in 1.1.18. Thanks. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Multiple profiles horrors
Win XP SP3 I too tried to install SM2 with multiple profiles. Machine has 3 users. Did not uninstall SM 1.18 first. Administrator installed and migrated correctly. User 1 had no profile. Use of manually starting profile migration for User 1 as suggested did not start import wizard, just normal first SM screen. I created a profile for user 1 and successfully manually migrated emails and newsgroup settings, but not the address books yet. But I can't get the user 1 SM to ask to remember passwords, so I can use the .s and .w files it creates to manually migrate the old password files. This is a nightmare. Should I start over, reinstall SM 1.18, uninstall SM 2.0 or what? How do I manually migrate other profiles if the -migrate command procedure doesn't work? Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SM2.0 e-mail client work with folders stored on a LAN?
Claus wrote: Hi, I would like to know whether it is possible to install Seamonkey 2.0 with its e-mail client on each PC of a LAN and to store the e-mail account folders just on one central PC of the LAN in order to access these folders from any PC on the LAN. After having downloaded my e- mail to PC1, I would like to have access to these e-mails also on PC2, etc. If I send an e-mail from PC2, I would like to see this sent message also on PC3, etc. Is this possible? Thanks for your help! Claus The easiest way to do this is to setup IMAP on your server ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple profiles horrors
Lance Courtland: I created a profile for user 1 and successfully manually migrated emails and newsgroup settings, but not the address books yet. But I can't get the user 1 SM to ask to remember passwords, so I can use the .s and .w files it creates to manually migrate the old password files. As i understand you have now a working profile for user 1, but without the former passwords. And on the old profile there is a numbers.s and a numbers.w. These two files needs to be copied to the new profile. And in this one the Pref signon.SignonFileName must point to numbers.s and the Pref wallet.SchemaValueFileName must point to numbers.w. In prefs.js. Also delete all traces of signon* in the new profile. After starting SM2 a signons3.txt and a signons.sqlite should be automatically created. The signons3.txt is nice because it is a pure text file which can be viewed, but the signons.sqlite is the file which will be used for the passwords. One caveat: i never used a master password. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config
On 11/1/2009 6:34 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Rick Merrill schrieb: Where might the settings in about:config be described? Couldn't find it in 'help' (SM 1.18). about:config is not designed to be an interface for normal users, and nothing that should either be documented without holes, it's more a graphical advanced access point to everything that is stored in the preferences system, which includes knobs only developers or anyone doing debugging is supposed to tweak. You know, there's a reason why we put up a scary warning by default when you call up this about:config page. Robert Kaiser Hmm. I don't get any warning. I have always advocated -- both with Mozilla-based applications and others dating back some 40 years -- to use user-oriented capabilities (e.g., [Edit Preferences]) whenever possible. This is because user-oriented capabilities generally include necessary housekeeping about which the user will not know. However, there are tweaks the users want to do that are not supported by any user-oriented capability. They can be accomplished only by explicitly changing preference variables. For that reason, a dictionary of such variables would be useful. If carefully written, housekeeping rules, warnings, and related variables could all be documented. And remember that many SeaMonkey users are power users (as cited in Bug #178685). After all, if we were not power users, we would be using Firefox or IE. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config
David E. Ross: On 11/1/2009 6:34 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: about:config is not designed to be an interface for normal users, and nothing that should either be documented without holes, it's more a graphical advanced access point to everything that is stored in the preferences system, which includes knobs only developers or anyone doing debugging is supposed to tweak. You know, there's a reason why we put up a scary warning by default when you call up this about:config page. Hmm. I don't get any warning. Perhaps because of user_pref(general.warnOnAboutConfig, false);? ;) I have always advocated -- both with Mozilla-based applications and others dating back some 40 years -- to use user-oriented capabilities (e.g., [Edit Preferences]) whenever possible. This is because user-oriented capabilities generally include necessary housekeeping about which the user will not know. And this is an advantage of SM compared with FF or TB. But they may argue, that SM is too complicated for a normal user. *g* However, there are tweaks the users want to do that are not supported by any user-oriented capability. They can be accomplished only by explicitly changing preference variables. For that reason, a dictionary of such variables would be useful. There are all.js, browser.js, mailnews.js etc. which contain valuable information, even with comments. But not for all Prefs, some must be searched in the source. It would be nice, to have a compendium, yes. But someone has to write it and the time of the devels is limited. There is a huge amount of bugs which needs fixing. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth
lr...@superlink.net wrote: On Oct 31, 1:40 pm, chicagofanm...@privacy.net wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/30/2009 02:50 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Server: news.eternal-september.org Fails on port NNTP (119) and NNTPS (563 with SSL) with this message: http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/SS-NoPost-SM2.0.png And my first test post to this server failed silently as well. WTH? NOTE: since tested on another server with auth, fails there as well. news.eternal-september.org works just fine for me. Server settings 563 SSL/TLS 'Always request authentication when connecting to this server- outgoing server is the same as this email account. It's working fine for me too, on Port 119, as news.eternal-september.org, with the Always request authentication box checked under the news server settings. Note, my setup isn't using SSL [Port 563] though. Hope something works for you, but I don't think it's a SM 2.0 problem. :) I have a problem that has the same symptoms that started after I installed SM 2.0. I had to sign on to my google(tm) account to post here. Suggestions? I think maybe I spoke too soon now, although I have read many users posting that have nntp access on Linux and Windows with no problems. :\ What messages are you getting? Same as the OP? What news servers aren't working for you? Do you have any extensions or security programs that might be interfering? What O/S or platform are you using? Check to make sure all your news server settings are correctly set, individually [i.e., I have 2 news server that require no authentication, but one does]. I seem to remember that I had a similar problem with mail connections, after my *first* update to SM 2.0 beta. Something had changed my outgoing SMTP settings to require secure settings. I didn't know if my ISP had changed something, but I had not... and expected my old SM settings to be the same, and work as before. Anyway [though it is probably TOTALLY unrelated to this problem], I edited the settings under my Outgoing SMTP server, and unchecked the box ... for name and password, and that corrected my connection problem. Note that was 2.0b1, and regarding *mail* problems, but it's worth checking your SMTP settings, until someone comes along with the right answer about 2.0. :) Plus, you should add your experience w/ more details to the bug that has been filed by Bill Davidsen: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525649 bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.0 - more Mac user observations; Mail and News.
1) when opening/reviewing Mail and Newgroup account Settings, SM will sometimes replace the account name with my with multiple instances of the user name of the e-mail address in my Mail account. This seems to happen at random. 2) SM seems to randomly forget the window display settings for some newsgroup accounts - ex; if I choose to view by Date only, next time I open the Newsgroup the display opens in view by Thread. This doesn't happen for all servers/accounts/subscriptions at once - only for some; but appears to happen to all subscriptions on one server/account. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
1) indication/feedback for encryption behavior when storing sensitive data - even if it's only a notation in the Preference Pane(s) about the default behavior. 2) stand alone strong password creation Tool/Assistant - like what is already in place when creating a Master Password. 3) Private Data Manager - I'd like to be able to see what's in there, and know more about just what's being cleared when I do so manually. 4) bring back ability to disable Javascript for Mail and Newsgroups independent of Browser - as previous. 5) Preference Pane/selections for Tabbed Mail similar to what is in place for Tabbed Browsing. 6) ability to manually re-order Mail and Newsgroup account/server display order by drag and drop. 7) keystroke sequence to invoke Profile Manager at launch - as previous. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 - more Mac user observations; Mail and News.
Rufus: 1) when opening/reviewing Mail and Newgroup account Settings, SM will sometimes replace the account name with my with multiple instances of the user name of the e-mail address in my Mail account. This seems to happen at random. Have seen that also once. Another user had confirmed when i wrote about this in dcsm*. 2) SM seems to randomly forget the window display settings for some newsgroup accounts - ex; if I choose to view by Date only, next time I open the Newsgroup the display opens in view by Thread. This doesn't happen for all servers/accounts/subscriptions at once - only for some; but appears to happen to all subscriptions on one server/account. This one i haven't seen. So far. *g* Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config
A bit off topic but I have been curious where we could find statistics of actual Seamonkey downloads for various different releases. Firefox's download count seems to be well publicized but there seems to be no data on Seamonkey download / usage. Personally, SM is still the way to go for me to have everything ingrated in the same application. I flip between Navigator and Messenger and address book and sometimes even Composer that it would be a pain to run these all as separate programs / applications. Hartmut Figge wrote: And this is an advantage of SM compared with FF or TB. But they may argue, that SM is too complicated for a normal user. *g* ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion
On 10/31/2009 08:17 PM, User wrote: Thanks very much. Look forward to the bug report URL here if you don't mind posting it later. NoOp wrote: ... Please bottom post here :-) I'll be happy to file it in the morning; I tend to stay away from bugzilla in the evening :-) Well I avoid filing at night for good reason... :-) Bugzilla tends to make my eyes glaze over. So today in an effort to see if there is a similar bug filed I checked: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__content=%2520 and found one that may be relevant: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475896 [When accessing urls in firefox with %20, it is replaced with a whitespace. Breaks other software if you try to copy-paste part of the url out of firefox] quote Many applications find the end of urls based on a whitespace (or maybe a word boundary) character at the end. If I copy a url from firefox and paste it into something else it requires me to manually replace the spaces with %20. This is slightly more than annoying. /quote Given that SM 2.0 uses a lot of code from Fx, this might be a good place to start add comments. I'll do that first then if no response I'll open a new SeaMonkey only bug report. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple profiles horrors
Hartmut Figge wrote: Lance Courtland: I created a profile for user 1 and successfully manually migrated emails and newsgroup settings, but not the address books yet. But I can't get the user 1 SM to ask to remember passwords, so I can use the .s and .w files it creates to manually migrate the old password files. As i understand you have now a working profile for user 1, but without the former passwords. And on the old profile there is anumbers.s and anumbers.w. These two files needs to be copied to the new profile. And in this one the Pref signon.SignonFileName must point tonumbers.s and the Pref wallet.SchemaValueFileName must point tonumbers.w. In prefs.js. Also delete all traces of signon* in the new profile. After starting SM2 a signons3.txt and a signons.sqlite should be automatically created. The signons3.txt is nice because it is a pure text file which can be viewed, but the signons.sqlite is the file which will be used for the passwords. One caveat: i never used a master password. Hartmut Hartmut: Thanks for the help. Your procedure put the passwords in the password manager for user 1, but they are not entered in to the name and pwd boxes for sites that need them. Also, I am still not getting asked to remember passwords for new sites. any further help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion
NoOp wrote: On 10/31/2009 08:17 PM, User wrote: Thanks very much. Look forward to the bug report URL here if you don't mind posting it later. NoOp wrote: ... Please bottom post here :-) I'll be happy to file it in the morning; I tend to stay away from bugzilla in the evening :-) Well I avoid filing at night for good reason... :-) Bugzilla tends to make my eyes glaze over. So today in an effort to see if there is a similar bug filed I checked: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__content=%2520 and found one that may be relevant: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475896 [When accessing urls in firefox with %20, it is replaced with a whitespace. Breaks other software if you try to copy-paste part of the url out of firefox] quote Many applications find the end of urls based on a whitespace (or maybe a word boundary) character at the end. If I copy a url from firefox and paste it into something else it requires me to manually replace the spaces with %20. This is slightly more than annoying. /quote Given that SM 2.0 uses a lot of code from Fx, this might be a good place to start add comments. I'll do that first then if no response I'll open a new SeaMonkey only bug report. That's a good start, though the problem in SM is that when a URL in the browser has space characters, pasting the URL it into the mail composition window does not result in auto conversion of the space characters into its escape code equivalent, so I'm not sure if this means this is an issue in mail/news or SM or the browser. In SM 1.X the mail composition window would automatically convert it to escape code. This is going to be a big issue especially with any character that requires automatic escape code conversion, not just space characters only. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
4) bring back ability to disable Javascript for Mail and Newsgroups independent of Browser - as previous. What problem do you have with JavaScript being always disabled for Mail and Newsgroups, as it is now? 5) Preference Pane/selections for Tabbed Mail similar to what is in place for Tabbed Browsing. That's planned, from what I know, the contributor working on this just didn't have time to finish it up for 2.0 For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple profiles horrors
Lance Courtland: Thanks for the help. Your procedure put the passwords in the password manager for user 1, but they are not entered in to the name and pwd boxes for sites that need them. Press Cursor down or click twice on the field. Not a double click, but two single clicks. ;) Also, I am still not getting asked to remember passwords for new sites. I have just discovered, that searching the Sent folder fails for my current nightly. Hrmpf. But there exists a bookmarklet named remember password. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
Robert Kaiser wrote: 4) bring back ability to disable Javascript for Mail and Newsgroups independent of Browser - as previous. What problem do you have with JavaScript being always disabled for Mail and Newsgroups, as it is now? Well, for one - as the interface stands now I have no idea what the JavaScript default is for Mail and News by just reading the Prefs panel; only that it is enabled or disabled for the Browser. So the assumption could be that if I enable it for the Browser, it's now enabled globally. Poor interface design; no feedback/information on what is going on. And suppose I do want it enabled for Mail and News...then what is my option? 5) Preference Pane/selections for Tabbed Mail similar to what is in place for Tabbed Browsing. That's planned, from what I know, the contributor working on this just didn't have time to finish it up for 2.0 That's good to hear! For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... Robert Kaiser No - the other items I've listed defiantly fall into the category of enhancements, not bugs. It also appears that the information in SM Help is ahead of the release in a number of areas/implementations. I'm not a coder so I can't contribute that way, but I do evaluate software interfaces and operation professionally. I should probably be a beta tester...I could at least help out that way. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth
On 11/01/2009 05:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: NoOp wrote: ... Not sure what the issue might be Bill. I've migrated 4 machines (linux) from 1.1.18 to 2.0 and _all_ have no issues accessing news.eternal-september.org (port 563/SSL). I've 2 test machines that have yet to be migrated I'll see if I can get them done this weekend let you know if they have issues. Have you tried from a different profile? Yes. Tried different profile, machine, etc. Works from 1.1.18 every time, not from 2.0 any time. I'll see if I can try a few more test cases (linux) over the next few days. As you can see from my test posts on news.eternal-september.org (support and test) the Win2KP test profile had no issues, but the default/existing profile did - as in your case. I notice that 2.0 unchecks my ask about more than 500 messages box, although it seems to ask. Ideas? Different thread/issue; see: SM 2.0 RC2: News server setttings don't hold https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523958 dupe of: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457882 Harmut filed mailto:4a20de79.5010...@hfigge.myfqdn.de but no clue what that is as you can't search this group with that info. Harmut, how about providing a link to the msg? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.0 browser helper applications list editing
Previously, in SM 1.X's browser helper applications list, it was possible to add, edit and delete entries in the helper applications list. Now in SM 2.0 Windows version, there is only a list and there seems to be no way to add or delete entries in the list, it is possible to only edit existing help application entries already in the list. Can someone tell me how to add entries for certain file extensions? Also, I found that when I opened a file type with a file extension that is NOT in the current browser helper application list, a dialogue box pops up and asks me what helper application to launch. If I select OPEN WITH OTHER and then select the application from the list, the OPTION BOX for DO THIS AUTOMATICALLY FOR FILES LIKE THIS FROM NOW ON is greyed out and I cannot check it. As a result, I can't add this new helper application entry into the list. Does anyone know why this is the case? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple profiles horrors
Hartmut Figge wrote: Lance Courtland: Thanks for the help. Your procedure put the passwords in the password manager for user 1, but they are not entered in to the name and pwd boxes for sites that need them. Press Cursor down or click twice on the field. Not a double click, but two single clicks. ;) Also, I am still not getting asked to remember passwords for new sites. I have just discovered, that searching the Sent folder fails for my current nightly. Hrmpf. But there exists a bookmarklet named remember password. Hartmut Hartmut: The remember password bookmarklet only works for the username, not the password, at least at comcast.net mail. Also, when I am in SM Mail and click on 'get msgs' it starts to download 4789 messages going back to 2007. I rebuilt the msf files, but it made no difference. This is a mess. Am I the only one with these problems? I may have to go back to SM 1.18. Can I do that? Do I have to uninstall 2.0 first? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts
On 10/31/2009 07:13 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: I have 'Check for...' turned off for all news servers, but have grown accustom to the high cpu when checking my gmane.org newsgroups in 2.0 where I have at least 25 subscribed groups. Yes, it doesn't matter if you check manually or if that si done automatically. When I first open the server (click the right triangle next to the server name), cpu skyrockets all things mozilla pause. I can confirm that this does not happen when doing the same from my 1.1.18 (linux windows). I have already given the time frame. First the problem could be avoided by backing out 'Patch, version 1.1' from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774. 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. Ok I give, what specifically is: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
Rufus wrote: Well, for one - as the interface stands now I have no idea what the JavaScript default is for Mail and News by just reading the Prefs panel; only that it is enabled or disabled for the Browser. So the assumption could be that if I enable it for the Browser, it's now enabled globally. If it was globally, it wouldn't state Browser next to the checkbox. Not having a checkbox to enable it for mail and newsgroups means that you cannot enable it, i.e. it's not available at all. But I agree that the user interface could be better. I'd appreciate a bug with suggestions and a patch filed for 2.1. Poor interface design; no feedback/information on what is going on. And suppose I do want it enabled for Mail and News...then what is my option? None. JavaScript in MailNews is not just evil, it's not supported due to its unclear security state. For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... No - the other items I've listed defiantly fall into the category of enhancements, not bugs. It also appears that the information in SM Help is ahead of the release in a number of areas/implementations. Enhancements are also bugs in Mozilla speak, i.e. they need a bug report filed in Bugzilla to be tracked. Anything just mentioned anywhere else is pretty sure to fall through the cracks, and any code change whatsoever needs a bug report where it was discussed to be mentioned in its commit comment. I'm not a coder so I can't contribute that way, but I do evaluate software interfaces and operation professionally. I should probably be a beta tester...I could at least help out that way. Any help would be appreciated! And you probably also could be a bug reporter :) Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 - sensitive info storage?..
Rufus wrote: http://luxsci.com/blog/master-password-encryption-in-firefox-and-thunderbird.html Does this info actually hold for SM 2.0? And does SM 2.0 use strong 128 bit encryption when doing so? I have a Master set in 2.0, and I do need to give it the Master to show passwords in the Manager. Not sure, I both don't have the time to read the whole document nor am I an expert on the password manager. We're using exactly the same password manager in SeaMonkey 2.0 though as in Firefox 3.5, and AFAIK, you always need to enter the master password if you want to access any passwords - just that in the default case, the master password is empty and if it's empty, we don't ask for one (but we use the empty master password for encrypting the passwords on disk). Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[OT - statistics] Re: about:config
On 11/01/2009 03:07 PM, User wrote: A bit off topic but I have been curious where we could find statistics of actual Seamonkey downloads for various different releases. Firefox's download count seems to be well publicized but there seems to be no data on Seamonkey download / usage. So start a new thread? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts
NoOp: On 10/31/2009 07:13 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: I have already given the time frame. First the problem could be avoided by backing out 'Patch, version 1.1' from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774. 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. Ok I give, what specifically is: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de ? Don't understand the question. Are you asking about, what a MID is? Or for the content of posting to which the MID is pointing? Well, using the MIDF on the MID one can get the Posting e.g. in Goggle. http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/msg/159965120a124f64 The MIDF is one of two add-ons i cannot live without. The other one is Mnenhy. *g* Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth
NoOp: Harmut filed mailto:4a20de79.5010...@hfigge.myfqdn.de but no clue what that is as you can't search this group with that info. Harmut, how about providing a link to the msg? 'mailto:' isn't correct, should be 'news'. Required by some RFC. But 'news:'' is a dangerous thing for mozilla based NUAs. Very old bug. Nevertheless, MIDF shows, that this posting was not catched by google. But it can be found on newsservers or here: http://de.nntp2http.com/comm/software/mozilla/nightly-builds/2009/05/09818ed83092721eab8ea2f226a86e00.html This bug is fixed for my SM 2.1. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 URL escape character auto conversion
On 11/01/2009 03:16 PM, User wrote: NoOp wrote: ... Given that SM 2.0 uses a lot of code from Fx, this might be a good place to start add comments. I'll do that first then if no response I'll open a new SeaMonkey only bug report. That's a good start, though the problem in SM is that when a URL in the browser has space characters, pasting the URL it into the mail composition window does not result in auto conversion of the space characters into its escape code equivalent, so I'm not sure if this means this is an issue in mail/news or SM or the browser. In SM 1.X the mail composition window would automatically convert it to escape code. This is going to be a big issue especially with any character that requires automatic escape code conversion, not just space characters only. Agreed. But let's give my comments to this bug a day if no action/added-comments I'll file a new SeaMonkey only bug. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Multiple profiles horrors
Lance Courtland: The remember password bookmarklet only works for the username, not the password, at least at comcast.net mail. Others shoud comment on this. For me the browser is an appendix of MailNews. ;) Also, when I am in SM Mail and click on 'get msgs' it starts to download 4789 messages going back to 2007. I rebuilt the msf files, but it made no difference. Hm, i'm using POP3 and have not seen it for Mails. You should have been asked for the number of messages you wish to download. Maybe there is a bug in SM 2.0. This is a mess. Am I the only one with these problems? Let's wait for others. I may have to go back to SM 1.18. Can I do that? Do I have to uninstall 2.0 first? If you have installed SM2 to a different location you should be able to use the old SM1 without problems. You can even start both at the same time using no-remote as parameter. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts
On 11/01/2009 04:12 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: On 10/31/2009 07:13 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: I have already given the time frame. First the problem could be avoided by backing out 'Patch, version 1.1' from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311774. 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de. Ok I give, what specifically is: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de ? Don't understand the question. Are you asking about, what a MID is? Or for the content of posting to which the MID is pointing? The Message ID: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de I don't use google groups et al; nor do many others. Well, using the MIDF Obviously you are not from Malaysia :-) http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MIDF on the MID one can get the Posting e.g. in Goggle. http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/msg/159965120a124f64 Blah - it's Message-ID (according to the header), as in Message-ID: 4aee23d7.2050...@hfigge.myfqdn.de The link works, but it's really a post on news://de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/ and why assume anyone uses google group eh? The MIDF is one of two add-ons i cannot live without. The other one is Mnenhy. *g* Never used Mnenhy. But simply posting a 'Message-ID' in a bug report probably isn't going to get much mileage. My suggestion would be to be less lazy (:-)) and: 1) post a link to the msg as you've done above, and/or 2) just post what you are talking about. For others interested; here is the english translation (provided by google) of Harmut's post with some snippage: http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/msg/159965120a124f64 quote ... Hartmut Figge View profile Translate to English Translated (View Original) Hartmut Figge: Alfred Peters Through Check-Out confirmed: Yes, the patch is to blame! 'You're so terribly active. I hope that I succeed in my conscience to keep in check. It is not. There was such an insidious gnawing constantly in the background because of suspicious matches. Sigh. So, after this patch Kick out the problem with that is CPU load removed. Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Of users for user :-) Hide options Sep 28, 7:56 am Newsgroups: de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds From: Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:56:02 +0200 Local: Mon, Sep 28 2009 7:56 am Subject: Re: Leeres Artikelfenster durch Aktualisierung Reply | Reply to author | Forward | Print | View thread | Show original | Report this message | Find messages by this author Hartmut Figge: Alfred Peters Through Check-Out confirmed: Yes, the patch is to blame! 'You're so terribly active. I hope that I succeed in my conscience to keep in check. It is not. There was such an insidious gnawing constantly in the background because of suspicious matches. Sigh. So, after this patch Kick out the problem with that is CPU load removed. Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Of users for user :-) /quote And after all of that, I'm not sure that I understand anything :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Embedded flash videos loading failure under SM 2.0
On 11/01/2009 09:28 AM, User wrote: I am interested to hear from users who has SM 2.0 with no add-ons beyond the original 3 add-ons that came by default with SM 2.0, and have tried this page and the video window fails to expand the FIRST time the page is loaded, to confirm whether using the above SHIFT-RELOAD procedure will yield the same results as I have encountered during this test. Thanks for any input. I cannot reproduce w/SeaMonkey 2.0 (windows or linux). The embeded Facebook finally makes money flash video opens for me every instance clicking the play button plays the video. Extension show the default Chatzilla, DOM Inspector, Javascript Debugger plugins are Adobe Acrobat, Java, Microsoft DRM, Mozilla Default Plug-in, Shockwave Flash (10.0.32.18), and Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts
NoOp: On 11/01/2009 04:12 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Well, using the MIDF Obviously you are not from Malaysia :-) http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MIDF :-P http://messageidfinder.mozdev.org/ But this one will not work on SM2. I had to fix it for my personal needs. And there will be no official new version AFAIK. The functionality may be transferred to a future version of Mnenhy, though. Here is a screenshot of the menu of the MIDF. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/mi091018.png (34 KB) it's Message-ID (according to the header), as in Message-ID: 4aee23d7.2050...@hfigge.myfqdn.de The link works, but it's really a post on news://de.comm.software.mozilla.nightly-builds/ Right. and why assume anyone uses google group eh? You have to have a method of finding this posting using the MID. One possibility is the advanced search of Google. A better one is to interrogate a newsserver directly. Sometimes Google fails to find a posting. The MIDF is one of two add-ons i cannot live without. The other one is Mnenhy. *g* Never used Mnenhy. But simply posting a 'Message-ID' in a bug report probably isn't going to get much mileage. Mhm, i felt responsible to add some comment ... My suggestion would be to be less lazy (:-)) ... but there is this point. *g* and: 1) post a link to the msg as you've done above, The result would still point to a text in German. and/or 2) just post what you are talking about. Much could be done better. More investigation, determining the time frame, providing a patch. But luckily i am only a user and not a devel. So i can stay with Wizardry 7, at the moment. :) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)
Ant wrote: On 11/1/2009 8:13 AM PT, propman typed: Ant wrote: On 11/1/2009 1:04 AM PT, propman typed: It wasn't working for me with FF 3.5.3, didn't check on it with FF 2.5.4 but it works fine now with FF 3.6b1 here.. Firefox v2.5.4??? I thought the last v2 was 2.0.0.20. Typoshould have been 3.5.4 Interesting. I wonder what bug was fixed in v3.5.4 over v3.5.3. I wonder if SM v1.1.x will get a fix too? I am sure SM2 (haven't upgraded yet0 has no problems. Well, it worked here in 3.5.3 and 3.5.4, and works in 3.6b1. Something in the prefs.js file? Who knows? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rick Merrill schrieb: Where might the settings in about:config be described? Couldn't find it in 'help' (SM 1.18). about:config is not designed to be an interface for normal users, and nothing that should either be documented without holes, it's more a graphical advanced access point to everything that is stored in the preferences system, which includes knobs only developers or anyone doing debugging is supposed to tweak. You know, there's a reason why we put up a scary warning by default when you call up this about:config page. Robert Kaiser But it can be useful in the hands of an _experienced_ user -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Deleting SM 1.18 files
Once I've decided to ditch SM 1.18 for good, I've read here that I can ditch my old profiles folder. But on my Mac that profile folder itself sits in a folder : ~/library/Mozilla that also contains two other files : Application Registry, and pluginreg.dat Will it be safe to ditch the Mozilla folder, including those two files, as well as the old profiles folder? Thanks, Geoff ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.0 JavaScript/Plug-ins Mail Newsgroups
Is there an option to enable Java Script and Plug-ins for Mail and Newsgroups in SeaMonkey 2.0? TIA, Margaret ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Embedded flash videos loading failure under SM 2.0
User wrote: User wrote: I tried it again by starting a new session of SM 2.0 after having quitted the application. The embedded Flash video does not work again and does not expand. It seems the problem occurs when the page is first accessed after SM 2.0 start up, but somehow works when SM 2.0 has been exercised later in the session. Some additional tests have been performed on this page discussed earlier: http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/30/technology/facebook_spammer/index.htm?postversion=2009103010 whose embedded Flash video fails to auto expand upon first loading under SM 2.0. Here are the observations noted during additional tests: * When a new browser tab or window is opened, and the page is loaded for the first time, the embedded Flash video window will FAIL to expand. Even if the link to the video is clicked and the window expands, the video frame will show a black window and clicking the play button will not start the video. * AFTER this page is displayed with video window expansion failure, and then SHIFT-RELOAD is clicked to force a reload of the same page, then the video window auto expands properly on the forced reload and a frame of the video image is then shown. If the play button is then clicked, the video will playback normally. * AFTER the page loads with successful auto expansion of Flash FLV video window, further clicking of browser RELOAD button or using keyboard shortcut CTRL-R or a forced reload by clicking SHIFT-RELOAD will always result in a page that loads with successful auto expansion of Flash video window. I am interested to hear from users who has SM 2.0 with no add-ons beyond the original 3 add-ons that came by default with SM 2.0, and have tried this page and the video window fails to expand the FIRST time the page is loaded, to confirm whether using the above SHIFT-RELOAD procedure will yield the same results as I have encountered during this test. Thanks for any input. Had no problem with flash item in link above. And I, I have a Flash item at bottom of page in the new generations section of my own website. http://www.phillipmjones.net -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: Well, for one - as the interface stands now I have no idea what the JavaScript default is for Mail and News by just reading the Prefs panel; only that it is enabled or disabled for the Browser. So the assumption could be that if I enable it for the Browser, it's now enabled globally. If it was globally, it wouldn't state Browser next to the checkbox. Not having a checkbox to enable it for mail and newsgroups means that you cannot enable it, i.e. it's not available at all. But I agree that the user interface could be better. I'd appreciate a bug with suggestions and a patch filed for 2.1. ...I was code head of sorts...in a previous life...to me it's implied because it doesn't say anything now and did before, and in my professional life we aren't in the habit of taking functionality out of code - or at least we don't NOOP it without making it clear what the new result is. So my impression was that something was still happening behind the scenes for Mail and News that I now no longer have control over. Poor interface design; no feedback/information on what is going on. And suppose I do want it enabled for Mail and News...then what is my option? None. JavaScript in MailNews is not just evil, it's not supported due to its unclear security state. Wish it told me that someplace. I'm big on security features - also from a professional standpoint. The flexibility and user options in SM are one of it's stronger facets, IMO. For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... No - the other items I've listed defiantly fall into the category of enhancements, not bugs. It also appears that the information in SM Help is ahead of the release in a number of areas/implementations. Enhancements are also bugs in Mozilla speak, i.e. they need a bug report filed in Bugzilla to be tracked. Anything just mentioned anywhere else is pretty sure to fall through the cracks, and any code change whatsoever needs a bug report where it was discussed to be mentioned in its commit comment. Ahhh...at work we make a distinction. I'll look into capturing all my observations in bug reports on Bugzilla, then. If it'll help, I'd be happy to. I read in another thread that coders were reading/monitoring here and to keep posting. So I have been. I'm not a coder so I can't contribute that way, but I do evaluate software interfaces and operation professionally. I should probably be a beta tester...I could at least help out that way. Any help would be appreciated! And you probably also could be a bug reporter :) Robert Kaiser I'll try a swing at it. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 - more Mac user observations; Mail and News.
Hartmut Figge wrote: Rufus: 1) when opening/reviewing Mail and Newgroup account Settings, SM will sometimes replace the account name with my with multiple instances of the user name of the e-mail address in my Mail account. This seems to happen at random. Have seen that also once. Another user had confirmed when i wrote about this in dcsm*. 2) SM seems to randomly forget the window display settings for some newsgroup accounts - ex; if I choose to view by Date only, next time I open the Newsgroup the display opens in view by Thread. This doesn't happen for all servers/accounts/subscriptions at once - only for some; but appears to happen to all subscriptions on one server/account. This one i haven't seen. So far. *g* Hartmut I haven't seen this issue as well. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 JavaScript/Plug-ins Mail Newsgroups
M wrote: Is there an option to enable Java Script and Plug-ins for Mail and Newsgroups in SeaMonkey 2.0? TIA, Margaret JavaScript = No (Security-issues block this.) Plugins = Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts and Plugins | Enable Plugins for [checkbox] Mail Newsgroups ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 - sensitive info storage?..
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus wrote: http://luxsci.com/blog/master-password-encryption-in-firefox-and-thunderbird.html Does this info actually hold for SM 2.0? And does SM 2.0 use strong 128 bit encryption when doing so? I have a Master set in 2.0, and I do need to give it the Master to show passwords in the Manager. Not sure, I both don't have the time to read the whole document nor am I an expert on the password manager. We're using exactly the same password manager in SeaMonkey 2.0 though as in Firefox 3.5, and AFAIK, you always need to enter the master password if you want to access any passwords - just that in the default case, the master password is empty and if it's empty, we don't ask for one (but we use the empty master password for encrypting the passwords on disk). Robert Kaiser ...and is it true that SM uses strong encryption? -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth
chicagofan ha scritto: lr...@superlink.net wrote: On Oct 31, 1:40 pm, chicagofanm...@privacy.net wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/30/2009 02:50 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Server: news.eternal-september.org Fails on port NNTP (119) and NNTPS (563 with SSL) with this message: http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/Private/SS-NoPost-SM2.0.png And my first test post to this server failed silently as well. WTH? NOTE: since tested on another server with auth, fails there as well. news.eternal-september.org works just fine for me. Server settings 563 SSL/TLS 'Always request authentication when connecting to this server- outgoing server is the same as this email account. It's working fine for me too, on Port 119, as news.eternal-september.org, with the Always request authentication box checked under the news server settings. Note, my setup isn't using SSL [Port 563] though. Hope something works for you, but I don't think it's a SM 2.0 problem. :) I have a problem that has the same symptoms that started after I installed SM 2.0. I had to sign on to my google(tm) account to post here. Suggestions? I think maybe I spoke too soon now, although I have read many users posting that have nntp access on Linux and Windows with no problems. :\ What messages are you getting? Same as the OP? What news servers aren't working for you? Do you have any extensions or security programs that might be interfering? What O/S or platform are you using? Check to make sure all your news server settings are correctly set, individually [i.e., I have 2 news server that require no authentication, but one does]. [cut] Hello, as I posted a few hours ago, I had the same problem with a non-auth news server. I deleted it, and created a new news account: now it's working, so the problem is probably related to some bug in the migration step. bye, Gabriele ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Software security Master Password
Phillip Jones ha scritto: Gabriele wrote: HilsB ha scritto: First thanks to all for a great upgrade to SM2. I agree :) [cut] Now at each startup of SM2 'Master password required for Software security device' - no other passwords required after registering 1.1.18's mail / newsgroup passwords. My question - how to stop SM2 startup 'Master Password Required' at each startup. The same here on OSX Tiger, it's a bit annoying. Gabriele for Mac only: SeaMonkey Menu Preferences Privacy Security Master password choose The first time its needed. It's already set this way, but still SM it's asking for the master password every time I launch it. Gabriele ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 - sensitive info storage?..
Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Jens Hatlak schrieb: Rufus wrote: Under 1.1.18 there was a pref selection for encryption vise obscuring of sensitive data during storage. Is it correct to assume that SM 2.0 now encrypts sensitive data by default, and with what strength? Strong 128 bit?..I hope... No, it doesn't encrypt by default, only obscure. From what I know, that's not really true, we don't obsucre in the new password manager, we always encrypt, but default generate a key from an empty master password. Robert Kaiser Omone esle linked me to this - http://luxsci.com/blog/master-password-encryption-in-firefox-and-thunderbird.html Does this info actually hold for SM 2.0? And does SM 2.0 use strong 128 bit encryption when doing so? I have a Master set in 2.0, and I do need to give it the Master to show passwords in the Manager. I don't know for sure about the encryption. But being a modern Application, with all the things that can attack computers today I would not be surprised if it was. As for having to type in password to see your passwords Yes. and BTW: if you forget your Password your dead. You'll have to reset, And if you have to that, it wipe out all your user names and passwords. If not, can you point me at what SM 2.0 is actually doing? Really would like to see some feedback in the dialog box as to encrypted vice simply obscured like in 1.1.18. Thanks. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.x.x - things I'd like to see.
Robert Kaiser wrote: 4) bring back ability to disable Javascript for Mail and Newsgroups independent of Browser - as previous. What problem do you have with JavaScript being always disabled for Mail and Newsgroups, as it is now? Not having the choice of whether to use it. I've always had JavaScript enabled for mail and news since back in Netscape navigator days and not once have I had a problem with JavaScript. I am aware there are supposed to be issues with JavaScript. But I've never experienced them. 5) Preference Pane/selections for Tabbed Mail similar to what is in place for Tabbed Browsing. That's planned, from what I know, the contributor working on this just didn't have time to finish it up for 2.0 For all the others, have youu looked if bugs are filed? Can you help with putting some of your own time in and work on any of them yourself? We are a volunteer project, most things only happen if someone volunteers for them, you know... Robert Kaiser -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 JavaScript/Plug-ins Mail Newsgroups
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: M wrote: Is there an option to enable Java Script and Plug-ins for Mail and Newsgroups in SeaMonkey 2.0? TIA, Margaret JavaScript = No (Security-issues block this.) Plugins = Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts and Plugins | Enable Plugins for [checkbox] Mail Newsgroups Thank you. Margaret ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth
Gabriele wrote: chicagofan ha scritto: lr...@superlink.net wrote: I have a problem that has the same symptoms that started after I installed SM 2.0. I had to sign on to my google(tm) account to post here. Suggestions? I think maybe I spoke too soon now, although I have read many users posting that have nntp access on Linux and Windows with no problems. :\ What messages are you getting? Same as the OP? What news servers aren't working for you? Do you have any extensions or security programs that might be interfering? What O/S or platform are you using? Check to make sure all your news server settings are correctly set, individually [i.e., I have 2 news server that require no authentication, but one does]. [cut] Hello, as I posted a few hours ago, I had the same problem with a non-auth news server. I deleted it, and created a new news account: now it's working, so the problem is probably related to some bug in the migration step. bye, Gabriele Apparently... let's hope your experience will be helpful to others. :) bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange SM2 behaviour
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/1/2009 6:18 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: Alex wrote: This is continuation to my post above. What tweaks are required to make SM 2 remember and autofill all my User ID's and passwords. It currently remembers only on some sites and on many like: https://www.chase.com/Chase.html I have to enter it every time. I did not have this issue with my previous SM 1.1.18 Thank you, Alex Hello Alex, I have the same problem. Password Mngr SM 2 is O.K on some sites, however there was no issue with SM 1.1.18 I'm following this thread but if you get any tips please let me know. Mike If there is no fill-in, left-click once in the user ID area. If that doesn't work, double left-click in the user ID area. If that doesn't work, left-click in the password area, etc. There is a serious inconsistency in how Password Manager works. See bug #525737 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525737. Sounds like from reading Bug(s) that the developers are considering removing the the line sound like based on what I am reading you won't be able to save passwords and user names. If so we'll need a three ring binder or notepad just to save all the user names and passwords you have to keep up with. the all the CC companies. the bank. And the institution I have my mutual fund with, including all the forums, and newsgroups,I'd have to have a pretty good size note book. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Maps' Zoom Out (-)
Ant wrote: Hello! Is anyone else having problems with Google Maps' - graphic to zoom out of map area view? I noticed in both Mozilla's SeaMonkey v1.1.18 and Firefox v2.0.0.20 on two updated Windows XP Pro. machines. It worked in fine in the past and in Internet Explorer v6.0. Thank you in advance. :) As of 11PM EST, it works for me with WinXP SeaMonkey 2.0. The only special thing I've done which may not be relevant is to make a new user agent. general.useragent.extra.spoof string NOT Firefox/3.5.4 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:28:48 -0800, NoOp wrote: On 11/01/2009 04:12 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: NoOp: The Message ID: 4ac0a452.4070...@hfigge.myfqdn.de I don't use google groups et al; nor do many others. Well, using the MIDF Obviously you are not from Malaysia :-) http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MIDF Well I am, so that reference by Hartmut confused me no end. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]All hope abandon, ye who enjoy tax forms. * TagZilla 0.066.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Software security Master Password
Gabriele wrote: Phillip Jones ha scritto: Gabriele wrote: HilsB ha scritto: First thanks to all for a great upgrade to SM2. I agree :) [cut] Now at each startup of SM2 'Master password required for Software security device' - no other passwords required after registering 1.1.18's mail / newsgroup passwords. My question - how to stop SM2 startup 'Master Password Required' at each startup. The same here on OSX Tiger, it's a bit annoying. Gabriele for Mac only: SeaMonkey Menu Preferences Privacy Security Master password choose The first time its needed. It's already set this way, but still SM it's asking for the master password every time I launch it. Gabriele Do you actually have a Password set? and If you do you have many passwords. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Feedback to Seamonkey developers - SM 2.0 high CPU resource consumption bursts
Philip Chee: On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:28:48 -0800, NoOp wrote: On 11/01/2009 04:12 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Well, using the MIDF Obviously you are not from Malaysia :-) http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/MIDF Well I am, so that reference by Hartmut confused me no end. Didn't know, that the MIDF may be unknown in this NG. ;) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config
On 11/1/2009 6:29 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rick Merrill schrieb: Where might the settings in about:config be described? Couldn't find it in 'help' (SM 1.18). about:config is not designed to be an interface for normal users, and nothing that should either be documented without holes, it's more a graphical advanced access point to everything that is stored in the preferences system, which includes knobs only developers or anyone doing debugging is supposed to tweak. You know, there's a reason why we put up a scary warning by default when you call up this about:config page. Robert Kaiser But it can be useful in the hands of an _experienced_ user And it could be vitally necessary for developers and testers. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config
David E. Ross: On 11/1/2009 6:29 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: [about:config] But it can be useful in the hands of an _experienced_ user Yes. And it could be vitally necessary for developers and testers. Vital? No, you can always use the user.js. ;) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Software security Master Password
Phillip Jones wrote: Gabriele wrote: Phillip Jones ha scritto: Gabriele wrote: HilsB ha scritto: First thanks to all for a great upgrade to SM2. I agree :) [cut] Now at each startup of SM2 'Master password required for Software security device' - no other passwords required after registering 1.1.18's mail / newsgroup passwords. My question - how to stop SM2 startup 'Master Password Required' at each startup. The same here on OSX Tiger, it's a bit annoying. Gabriele for Mac only: SeaMonkey Menu Preferences Privacy Security Master password choose The first time its needed. It's already set this way, but still SM it's asking for the master password every time I launch it. Gabriele Do you actually have a Password set? and If you do you have many passwords. Workaround is here, Known Issues - fifth one: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0/#issues I've done it - it works. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange SM2 behaviour
Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/1/2009 6:18 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: Alex wrote: This is continuation to my post above. What tweaks are required to make SM 2 remember and autofill all my User ID's and passwords. It currently remembers only on some sites and on many like: https://www.chase.com/Chase.html I have to enter it every time. I did not have this issue with my previous SM 1.1.18 Thank you, Alex Hello Alex, I have the same problem. Password Mngr SM 2 is O.K on some sites, however there was no issue with SM 1.1.18 I'm following this thread but if you get any tips please let me know. Mike If there is no fill-in, left-click once in the user ID area. If that doesn't work, double left-click in the user ID area. If that doesn't work, left-click in the password area, etc. There is a serious inconsistency in how Password Manager works. See bug #525737 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525737. Sounds like from reading Bug(s) that the developers are considering removing the the line sound like based on what I am reading you won't be able to save passwords and user names. If so we'll need a three ring binder or notepad just to save all the user names and passwords you have to keep up with. the all the CC companies. the bank. And the institution I have my mutual fund with, including all the forums, and newsgroups,I'd have to have a pretty good size note book. ...if they remove the Password Manager I'll go back to 1.1.18 and STAY there... ...or start using another app altogether. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Strange SM2 behaviour
On 09-11-02 1:48 AM, Rufus wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: There is a serious inconsistency in how Password Manager works. See bug #525737 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525737. Sounds like from reading Bug(s) that the developers are considering removing the the line sound like based on what I am reading you won't be able to save passwords and user names. If so we'll need a three ring binder or notepad just to save all the user names and passwords you have to keep up with. the all the CC companies. the bank. And the institution I have my mutual fund with, including all the forums, and newsgroups,I'd have to have a pretty good size note book. ...if they remove the Password Manager I'll go back to 1.1.18 and STAY there... ...or start using another app altogether. I've read the two bugs. Where in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525737 or https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=425145 is there talk about removing the ability to save any passwords? -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca List-owner: support-firefox, support-thunderbird, test-multimedia Keeper of the Knowledge Base: https://support.mozilla.com/kb/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: about:config
David E. Ross: The it to which I referred would be a preference variable dictionary, a document for humans and not a file for software. Sorry for misunderstanding you. As a retired software test engineer, I know that data dictionaries were very, very important to both developers and testers in the projects on which I worked. A preference variable dictionary would be very similar and have a similar role. It has to be written and must be maintained. Preferences are not static, there are always new ones and some may become obsolete. Who should do it? What bugs should not be fixed instead? ;) And just as we did not keep our data dictionaries secret from our end-users, a preference variable dictionary should not be kept from SeaMonkey users. Hidden they are not. I am a user and if i miss anything, first i look into the *.js in greprefs/ and defaults/pref/. If this is not successful, i look into the source. Others may use http://mxr.mozilla.org/ instead. Hm, i just notice, that greprefs/ is not longer there in my SM 2.1. Hopefully only only a bug and not intention. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
