Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Mason83 wrote: On 27/08/2017 19:00, null wrote: Mason83 wrote: On 27/08/2017 17:26, null wrote: So you got that test video I referenced to play before it was removed by the user, so you were able to get that info from the stats for geeks, right? Correct. In my case, that video, and others

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 27/08/2017 19:00, null wrote: > Mason83 wrote: >> On 27/08/2017 17:26, null wrote: >> >>> So you got that test video I referenced to play before it was removed by >>> the user, so you were able to get that info from the stats for geeks, >>> right? >> Correct. >> >>> In my case, that video, and

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Mason83 wrote: On 27/08/2017 17:26, null wrote: So you got that test video I referenced to play before it was removed by the user, so you were able to get that info from the stats for geeks, right? Correct. In my case, that video, and others that won't play DO show some geek info, but the

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Mason83 wrote: On 27/08/2017 17:26, null wrote: So you got that test video I referenced to play before it was removed by the user, so you were able to get that info from the stats for geeks, right? Correct. In my case, that video, and others that won't play DO show some geek info, but the

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 27/08/2017 17:26, null wrote: > So you got that test video I referenced to play before it was removed by > the user, so you were able to get that info from the stats for geeks, > right? Correct. > In my case, that video, and others that won't play DO show some > geek info, but the line

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Mason83 wrote: On 26/08/2017 16:24, null wrote: Mason83 wrote: That's an MP4 container with H.264-encoded video. They don't specify the audio codec, I'll bet AAC. That "test" video at the above link has unfortunately been removed by the user. When you right click on the settings button on

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: null wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: The term "open source library for working with video on the web" is being equated with the term "HTML video player." In the simplest possible terms, such a "library" is also called a "player." Definition of "software library"

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Chris Ilias wrote: On 2017-08-26 8:06 AM, null wrote: But getting back to the problem that I can't use SM or FF to watch video presented with Youtube's HTML5 Player, people say that I don't have the necessary codecs or that my XP OS doesn't have the necessary. Well, my Chrome browser on my

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 26/08/2017 17:08, Chris Ilias wrote: > The following also applies to SeaMonkey: > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats > > "[10] To avoid patent issues, support for MPEG 4, H.264 and MP3 is not > built directly into Firefox. Instead it relies on support

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 26/08/2017 16:24, null wrote: > Mason83 wrote: > >> That's an MP4 container with H.264-encoded video. >> They don't specify the audio codec, I'll bet AAC. > > That "test" video at the above link has unfortunately been removed by > the user. > > When you right click on the settings button on

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

null wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: The term "open source library for working with video on the web" is being equated with the term "HTML video player." In the simplest possible terms, such a "library" is also called a "player." Definition of "software library" from The Free Dictionary: "a

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

> Yeah, I guess I'll have to upgrade sooner or later, although it will have to > be a PC with a full size keyboard and a mouse - just can't abide laptops, it > would drive me nuts no matter how cheap. W10 may still be free from MS, but The old Thinkpad keyboards are still the second best thing

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 2017-08-26 8:06 AM, null wrote: But getting back to the problem that I can't use SM or FF to watch video presented with Youtube's HTML5 Player, people say that I don't have the necessary codecs or that my XP OS doesn't have the necessary. Well, my Chrome browser on my XP machine DOES play

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Mason83 wrote: On 26/08/2017 08:14, null wrote: Anyway, thanks to the stuff on your links, I now get the general idea that "an HTML5. video player" refers to software that resides on _the server_, and uses HTML5 rather than flash or webM to do . . . well . . . whatever it does that results in

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: You can try this one: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/175591-enable-mp4-h264-aac-html5-video-in-firefox-on-windows-xp-without-flash/ Thanks for that. there is a download link there for the Adobe thingy they talk about, got it, scanned it, unzpped it, put it in a

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 26/08/2017 08:14, null wrote: > Anyway, thanks to the stuff on your links, I now get the general idea > that "an HTML5. video player" refers to software that resides on _the > server_, and uses HTML5 rather than flash or webM to do . . . well . . . > whatever it does that results in my

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: null wrote: Thanks for the above links, the contents of which have finally thrown some light on what people REALLY mean when they talk about the "HTML5 video player", but somehow can't seem to say it clearly. For instance, the videojs site says that "Video.js is an

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

You can try this one: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/175591-enable-mp4-h264-aac-html5-video-in-firefox-on-windows-xp-without-flash/ Probably the only way to get it working under XP. 2.48 is Fx 51 The POS2009 hack will give you current updates for your system till 2019 but does nothing for

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

null wrote: Thanks for the above links, the contents of which have finally thrown some light on what people REALLY mean when they talk about the "HTML5 video player", but somehow can't seem to say it clearly. For instance, the videojs site says that "Video.js is an open source library for

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

WaltS48 wrote: On 8/25/17 12:55 PM, null wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 2017-08-22 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. HTML5 is not a media player. It's a language used

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 8/25/17 12:55 PM, null wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 2017-08-22 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. HTML5 is not a media player. It's a language used for writing

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

NFN Smith wrote: null wrote: Thanks for above links, which are very helpful. I would post some URLs for videos I can't play, but an odd thing is happening. Some videos that wouldn't play now will play, and some that would now won't, so I'm going to poke around on this a bit more with

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

null wrote: Thanks for above links, which are very helpful. I would post some URLs for videos I can't play, but an odd thing is happening. Some videos that wouldn't play now will play, and some that would now won't, so I'm going to poke around on this a bit more with Youtube and see if I can

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Chris Ilias wrote: On 2017-08-22 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. HTML5 is not a media player. It's a language used for writing webpages. The new HTML standard (number

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

TCW wrote: On 8/22/2017 6:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play in either SM or FF. For instance, recent videos

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Mason83 wrote: On 22/08/2017 13:17, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Flash is on the way out (December 2020).

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Steve Dunn wrote: On 2017-08-22 10:20, null wrote: Do I have HTML5 support? From the above, I'm unclear. You do, but you are missing one of the most common codecs, which may be the problem. There are numerous codecs (COmpressors-DECompressors) for video, much like

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Steve Dunn wrote: On 2017-08-22 10:20, null wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Do you have HTML5 support? What is checked there? Using SM, The page asks the question "What does this browser support?" The following boxes are ticked : HTMLVideoElement Media Source

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

TCW wrote: On 8/22/2017 9:20 AM, null wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 8/22/17 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play in

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 8/23/2017 1:10 AM, null wrote: Desiree wrote: On 8/22/2017 4:20 AM, null wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 8/22/17 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Desiree wrote: On 8/22/2017 4:20 AM, null wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 8/22/17 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 8/22/2017 4:20 AM, null wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 8/22/17 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play in either SM or

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 2017-08-22 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. HTML5 is not a media player. It's a language used for writing webpages. The new HTML standard (number 5) allows browsers

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 8/22/2017 6:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play in either SM or FF. For instance, recent videos posted to

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 22/08/2017 13:17, null wrote: > There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe > Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Flash is on the way out (December 2020). https://www.ghacks.net/2017/07/25/adobe-retires-flash-in-december-2020/ Webm is

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

Steve Dunn wrote: On 2017-08-22 10:20, null wrote: Do I have HTML5 support? From the above, I'm unclear. You do, but you are missing one of the most common codecs, which may be the problem. There are numerous codecs (COmpressors-DECompressors) for video, much like there are for audio, and

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 If you are running XP just forget anything HTML5 which isn't working out of the box. Support is just not there anymore and no one will fix it. At this point in time XP and HTML5 is just self torture. FRG

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 8/22/2017 1:15 PM, Steve Dunn wrote: On 2017-08-22 10:20, null wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Do you have HTML5 support? What is checked there? Using SM, The page asks the question "What does this browser support?" The following boxes are ticked :

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 2017-08-22 10:20, null wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Do you have HTML5 support? What is checked there? Using SM, The page asks the question "What does this browser support?" The following boxes are ticked : HTMLVideoElement Media Source Extensions WebM VP8 MSE &

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 8/22/2017 9:20 AM, null wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 8/22/17 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play in either SM

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

WaltS48 wrote: On 8/22/17 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play in either SM or FF. For instance, recent videos

Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

On 8/22/17 7:17 AM, null wrote: There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play in either SM or FF. For instance, recent videos posted to

There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player. Increasingly videos from this or that source will not play in either SM or FF. For instance, recent videos posted to Youtube increasingly will not play in