Better check the collection contract. Usually, once it hits the tank,
it belongs to the rendering company.
Will Kelleher wrote:
Hey everyone,
I am currently attending the University of Illinois. A student group
that I am involved with has recently begun a project to convert all of
the
Fashion a heated wand to plunge into the tank. The wand can be a tube
with a water jacket or electrically heated. Some dude on J2F did
something like that IIRC.
Cheese
Joe
Will Kelleher wrote:
Sorry, I hit send before I was finished. As I was saying:
We are concerned that it will be
nt: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:57 AMTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Collection and Other Questions
Fashion a heated wand to plunge into the tank. The wand can be a tube with a water jacket or electrically heated. Some dude on J2F did something like that IIRC.Che
Hey everyone,I am currently attending the University of Illinois. A student group that I am involved with has recently begun a project to convert all of the used cooking oil from the university food services into biodiesel to power university vehicles. The WVO is currently collected by a company
Sorry, I hit send before I was finished. As I was saying:We are concerned that it will be difficult to collect the WVO in the winter because it will be solid. The company uses a heating element on the collection trunk, but we'll just be sucking it out with a hose. Does anyone know how we should
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Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:58
PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Cold Weather
Collection and Other Questions
Sorry, I hit send before I was finished. As I was
saying:We are concerned that it will be difficult to collect the WVO
in the winter because it will be solid
I know there are some pointers on the Jtf site about winter BD
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html however I wanted to run a
few tests of my own.
I just got a food grade 200 liter drum and it was originally used for
olive oil and still had some in the bottom, so I got a liter
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:18:13 +0900
Hello Jeff
I'm wondering if since water present in small amounts can impede
the biodiesel reaction, if adding the water
Did you ever try Hydroxides of other active metals, say lithium ?
Has anyone?
Greg H.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 06:54
Subject: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing
G'day;
Snip
Better system yet
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 06:54
Subject: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing
G'day;
Snip
Better system yet? Use potassium hydroxide and don't worry about theabove
time-consuming PITA (Pain In The Anatomy).
As still somewhat of a beginner at this BD making stuff I have
The addition of glycerine to the BD being washed has caused some problems.
Excatly how mush gly is getting it there is hard to tell, but it is making
things difficult. The wash by oscillating sprinkler system works very well, but
it is a little violent and that doesn't seem to sit well with
]
Subject: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 20:15:53 -0400
The addition of glycerine to the BD being washed has caused some problems.
Excatly how mush gly is getting it there is hard to tell, but it is making
things difficult. The wash by oscillating sprinkler system works
stage method route but not before. Call me chicken s#^t, but I
prefer to err on the side of caution and go at it methodically.
Luc
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Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Cold Weather
year? Did it focus on biodiesel as you were
planning?
Regards
Keith
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 20:15:53 -0400
The addition of glycerine
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Cold Weather Processing
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:18:13 +0900
Hello Jeff
I'm wondering if since water present in small amounts can impede the
biodiesel reaction, if adding the water
G'day;
Well, I have come across another part of the learning curve. My processor/wash
tank combo resides in a non-winterized pump house and the last two times I have
processed a batch of BD (80liters each) I had a problem with
saponification/emulsion and I believe I have it figured out. As a
G'day;
Well, I have come across another part of the learning curve.
I was looking at some of your earlier posts, very interesting to
chart your progress in the last six months or so. The learning curve
is a bit like completion in the process, it never quite gets there,
and the curve
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:35 PM
Subject: Pieter and the Foolproof method - was Re: [biofuel] cold weather
and biodiesel
Hello Pieter
I wonder what this had to do with cold weather
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Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 10:08 PM
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Hello Mark
How did you handle the cold weather over the winter with your
biodiesel? Do you use additives or mix with diesel?
I've just made my first batch
How did you handle the cold weather over the winter with your
biodiesel? Do you use additives or mix with diesel?
I've just made my first batch of biodiesel and found it has a cloud
point
of around 30 degrees F. It gets down to -20 degrees F in the winter
in
Upstate NY so I'm wondering how
Hello Mark
How did you handle the cold weather over the winter with your
biodiesel? Do you use additives or mix with diesel?
I've just made my first batch of biodiesel and found it has a cloud
point
of around 30 degrees F. It gets down to -20 degrees F in the winter
in
Upstate NY so I'm
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:06:26 Mark Finewood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote.
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How did you handle the cold weather over the winter with your BR
biodiesel? Do you use additives or mix with diesel? BR
BR
I've just made my first batch of biodiesel and found it has a cloudBR
point BR
of
I'm going to reply to Quinn here:
It is very cloudy up here (I live near Watertown, NY) in the winter but
as I understand it, a lot of the UV still gets through.
Maud Essen wrote:
Hi, Quinn!
In the Midwestern U.S. we tend not to have the same persistent type
of weather pattern. With the
2003 15:23:31 -0600
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
I am making biodiesel up here in cold Canada. The temparatures
are starting
to get close to freezing and are only getting colder. If possible
I would
love to run 100% BD year round. What
: [biofuel] cold weather
Hi Doug,
This subject comes up pretty often, the last time Keith responded with
this
web-site:
Mother's Waste Oil Heater:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/methanol_motherearth/me4.html
Where are you in cold Canada?
Jesse
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@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
I am making biodiesel up here in cold Canada. The temparatures are starting
to get close to freezing and are only getting colder. If possible I would
love to run 100% BD year round. What are some of you doing with the
biodiesel to prevent it from gelling
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Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:23:31 -0600
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
I am making biodiesel up here in cold Canada. The temparatures are starting
to get close to freezing and are only getting colder. If possible I would
love to run 100% BD
Hi Doug and Keith,
Oops, wrong link. My fingers must have frozen on the keys here in Toronto.
Intrepid fielding, Keith!
Jesse
From: DougL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:46:10 -0600
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather
I
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather
Can block, tank, or fuel line heaters be made to work off a solar panel?
Maud
St. Louis, MO
Hi Doug,
This subject comes up pretty often, the last time Keith responded with
this
web
Maud Essen said:
Can block, tank, or fuel line heaters be made to work off a solar panel?
Probably, but all the ones I've seen are 120VAC, so you'd need an inverter.
Dan
--
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Fiber Artist - Genealogist - Kilt Maker - Linux Geek - Piper - Woodworker
, using fuel line heaters,
block heaters, tank heaters is another.
Best
Keith
From: DougL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:23:31 -0600
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
I am making biodiesel up here in cold
Yes, but the amount of power supplied by a solar cell may not be enough
to sufficiently heat these items. You could hook up a deep cycle battery
and come up with a controller to heat for an hour before you go. It
could even run a block heater for a while if it is a normal-sized
marine deep
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
I am making biodiesel up here in cold Canada. The temparatures are
starting
to get close to freezing and are only getting colder. If possible I would
love to run 100% BD year round. What are some of you doing with the
biodiesel to prevent it from
It looks like CNN finally decided to do a top story
on this.
World oil and gas 'running out'
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/global.warming/index.html
LOL, so now it is time to realize that it might be
important news.
Hakan
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
I have sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and asked them to look at,
http://energy.saving.nu/biofuels/
If anyone else might do the same, they might look and respond. Through
this page they will get some of my prognoses and general suggestions,
but they will get so many links to
the
vehicle.
Quinn
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From: Maud Essen
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather
Can block, tank, or fuel line heaters be made to work off a solar panel?
Maud
St. Louis, MO
Hi Doug
, 30 Sep 2003 15:23:31 -0600
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
I am making biodiesel up here in cold Canada. The temparatures
are starting
to get close to freezing and are only getting colder. If possible I would
love to run 100% BD year round. What are some
I am making biodiesel up here in cold Canada. The temparatures are starting to
get close to freezing and are only getting colder. If possible I would love to
run 100% BD year round. What are some of you doing with the biodiesel to
prevent it from gelling in the cold weather?
Doug Loewen
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:23:31 -0600
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
I am making biodiesel up here in cold Canada. The temparatures are starting
to get close to freezing and are only getting colder. If possible I would
love to run 100% BD year round. What are some
an affect on how
well this works.
Bryan Fullerton
White Knight Gifts
www.youcandobusiness.com
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From: desertstallion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:54 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] cold weather starting - No starting fluid
plugs
would make pre-ignition more likely.
Derek
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From: Bryan Fullerton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 19:50
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather starting - No starting fluid!
Of Course the manuals say not to use ether
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From: harley3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] cold weather starting - No starting fluid!
It was a very cold day, and the engine was cranking very slow. That's
when
I remembered the story, how my father use to start
understand that their manuals also state that ether is not to be
used.
Derek
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From: martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 21:11
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather starting - No starting fluid!
You used too much
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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 11:11 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather starting - No starting fluid!
Darn wish I would have been around.. if that was all that was wrong with
it
then it wouldn't be that hard to fix. I would have given a few pesos
did it but I dont
think you could call him pollution concious.
Bryan Fullerton
White Knight Gifts
www.youcandobusiness.com
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From: desertstallion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:28 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] cold weather
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:37 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] cold weather starting - No starting fluid!
Bryan:
A fully loaded Chevy Suburban Silverado. It was an all around bad
mistake.
I do have a bad temper. It was an excellent tax write off. Again,
hopefully a new person to diesels
On a tractor I drove it said do not heat [use glowplugs] if you're going
to use ether.
desertstallion wrote:
I have always read in the manuals of the Diesels that I have owned that have
glow plugs NOT to use ether (Volvo and Ford 6.9 NA). But, I understand, for
example, that the Diesels in
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From: Bryan Fullerton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:52 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather starting
Well this is controversial but I have used it on occasion with much
success.
I spray a 3 second
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From: harley3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] cold weather starting - No starting fluid!
Never use
You used too much.
I worked on a farm and we had to use ether all the time to get things
running and I never broke anything. One time I sprayed too much in an
engine and it revved really [way too] fast, but it didn't break
anything. But these were large 500 ci IH in milk trucks, and smaller
but it is not a good substitute for poor cranking speed.
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From: harley3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 5:51 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] cold weather starting - No starting fluid!
Never use starting fluid in a diesel engine
You cannot ski in minus 40 degree Celsius, if you do not cover all parts of
your skin. I sincerely suggest that you stay inside and do not take the
risk of severe skin damages. If you get such extremely low temperatures,
mix you diesel with 10 to 20% kerosene, but only for that occasion. In
11, 2002 08:49
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather starting
I've actually just bought my first diesel car, and this is one of my
main concerns (as I said, I don't really know anything!) - If I go
skiing and can't plug my car in, for the day or sometimes even for a few
days, do you have tips
Actually, when I lived in Canada, we did ski in -40. It was great
because there were so few people on the hill. I loved it. BTW, -40 is
both C F, it is the point where they meet.
I had a 1/4 ton truck that was diesel, we used to just leave it run when
it got that cold.
Bright Blessings,
Kim,
It is nice to hear a ski lover, because in these temperatures it
is very dangerous if you do not now what you are doing. But
you are right, it is nobody in the slope and with the right snow
and sunny it can be great. Already at minus 25 C you have
minus 60 C in the slope, if you consider
: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:49 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather starting
I've actually just bought my first diesel car, and this is one of my
main concerns (as I said, I don't really know anything!) - If I go
skiing and can't plug my car in, for the day
I've actually just bought my first diesel car, and this is one of my
main concerns (as I said, I don't really know anything!) - If I go
skiing and can't plug my car in, for the day or sometimes even for a few
days, do you have tips on starting it when I want to get home? Is this
something I
method might work
for SVO or WVO as well, I don't know.
Greg H.
Greg H.
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From: Michael Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 08:49
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather starting
I've actually just bought my first diesel car
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather starting
Were do you live? It used to be in Land Crusiers ( in Canada ) had duel
heavy duty batteries for starting.
Here in Colorado Springs, my father was told by his mechanic to add a
little
gasoline to the tank
with such a device fitted. Should
have
had it out may have been useful in an SVO conversion.
Darren
www.vegburner.co.uk
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From: Ken Basterfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 October 2002 21:24
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather
I've never heard of such a thing, were did you get this info.?
Greg H.
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From: John Venema [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 15:48
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather
An other thing I recently discovered was a kind
- Original Message -
From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 01 October 2002 17:06
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather
I've never heard of such a thing, were did you get this info.?
Greg H.
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From: John Venema [EMAIL PROTECTED
Hi,
Where in Canada are you? I used to live in Southern Ontario and never had
any problems with my '85 Jetta diesel. While it's true that fuel will gel
around the freezing point, wherever you are, the fuel stations will be
selling winterized fuel as it starts to get cooler. I had a block
Where are you from? I am in Saskatchewan.
Brent
From: Shari :) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:24:40 +
i live in canada and with cold weather apporoaching i am worried about being
able
i live in canada and with cold weather apporoaching i am worried about
being
able to run a diesel vehicle. have any of you had experience with this
problem??? how cold can you run the vehicle??? any tips on easy winter
startup??? or helping the motor from freezing???
I had a P 504 diesel in
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Steve Spence wrote:
Having run many diesels in cold weather (-40), there are a number of tricks
to keeping them running.
1. mix diesel 50/50 with kerosene
I'd rather not do that though since kerosene is a petroleum product, and
I'm trying to use as little of that as
: Michael S Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] cold weather
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Steve Spence wrote:
Having run many diesels in cold weather (-40), there are a number of
tricks
to keeping them running.
1. mix
Shari :) wrote:
i live in canada and with cold weather apporoaching i am worried about being
able to run a diesel vehicle. have any of you had experience with this
problem??? how cold can you run the vehicle??? any tips on easy winter
startup??? or helping the motor from freezing???
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:24 PM
Subject: [biofuel] cold weather
i live in canada and with cold weather apporoaching i am worried about
being
able to run a diesel vehicle. have any of you had experience with this
problem??? how cold can you run
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Shari :) wrote:
i live in canada and with cold weather apporoaching i am worried about being
able to run a diesel vehicle. have any of you had experience with this
problem??? how cold can you run the vehicle??? any tips on easy winter
startup??? or helping the motor
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