Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Littrell
How does this work? A free flying generator would simply be carried along by the wind and generate no power. If you had an engine to hold it in place against the wind you would only get back the energy you used to oppose the wind minus friction loss. You'd have a net loss of energy. If

RE: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35%

2005-04-07 Thread Dan Volker
Kirk, Do you have any idea of the effects of acetone on a Honda Insight? I believe the carburetion is slightly different in this car than the average. While I get good mileage with my Insight, I'd be happy to do better still if the acetone will do no harm... Regards, Dan Volker -Original

RE: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35%

2005-04-07 Thread dwoodard
I would be very wary of acetone contacting rubber or plastic. The mode of action sounds unlikely to me. One doesn't get that much of a mileage improvement with say natural gas compared to gasoline, unless one exploits the high knock resistance and the capacity for lean burning of the natural

Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Rick, I think it's a little like a kite (except, it's a propeller) and the twine is actually a power line. How's that Kirk? ...sound right? Mike Rick Littrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Kirk, How does this work? A free flying generator would simply be carried along by the wind

RE: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-07 Thread Jurie Vorster
Not an expert in any particular field but common sense and a bit of logic tells me... 1) The how-it-works stuff claims that the *permanent* magnet provides energy in keeping the object suspended from the roof equating to a electromagnet holding it up there but expending energy instead. WELL,

RE: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks for the comments, but... snip My longwinded two cents worth. You can be as longwinded as you like. Can we now get back to Bio Diesel!?!? No, in a word. This is not a biodiesel list, it's a biofuels list, and that's not just a quibble. When you joined the list you were sent a

[Biofuel] Kerosene

2005-04-07 Thread Chris Kelly
I have been offered by an aviation industry service mob, up to 1500litres of free kerosene. Aparently, this comes from some sort of turbine, and when the fuel tank has a problem, they drain it and are not allowed to reuse it. They are literally giving it away, I just have to collect it. Can

Re: [Biofuel] Kerosene

2005-04-07 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Chris. Kerosene according to JET A1 is consisting from fractions from both gasoline and diesel pools. The cetane number of kerosene should be about 38-40 and has a lower density than diesel oil. My suggestion is that you mix it with biodiesel , at the most 50/50 for engine fuel. It will

RE: [Biofuel] Kerosene

2005-04-07 Thread malcolm maclure
Hi Chris, Certainly blend it with bioD - I would tend to have a higher proportion of bioD than 50/50 though, just to be safe. On no account use straight kero - in time it will wreck your diesel pump as it does not have the lubrication properties of dinoD or bioD. Kero will not work in a petrol

[Biofuel] Bringing Business Back Ashore

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
spread with all speed. Hey guys, methinks there's good money to be made in futures options on water-wings for financiers. - K http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12039 CorpWatch: Bringing Business Back Ashore Buenos Aires issues world's first ban on offshore shell companies by By Lucy

Re: [Biofuel] Kerosene

2005-04-07 Thread Busyditch
A coworker, upon hearing of the Greasel kit, commented that as a boy his farm had an International tractor that ran on a dual tank system. It started on gasoline, and when warmed up, there was a valve to switch over to kero. He said it was hell to pay for the person who forgot to switch back

Re: [Biofuel] Kerosene

2005-04-07 Thread Andreas W Ohnsorge
Hello, there are some experiences with kerosene here in Germany (especially with users in VW diesels by people who live in the vicinity of airports and have access to kerosene in some way or other...). Result was that kerosene has not the lubrication that is needed for the pumps. That might

Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread MH
Thank you Kirk. In the picture to the right, the craft has been tilted by command, and the wind on this unusually windy day is turning the rotors, thus both holding up the craft and generating power which is transmitted back to the ground. See Australian Demonstration Site Photo

RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: [Bioenergy] Part 2 - Biogas from starch and su gar

2005-04-07 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, Quick comment required here. if you've got hungry people in the neighborhood that's where the starch and sugars should go. Excess capacity that can't be transported to market, I'm fine with too. Cellulose works well (crop stubble)in anaerobic processes but first has to go through a

[Biofuel] cross post...word is getting out

2005-04-07 Thread Chris
about my biodiesel-burnin' Benz. It is not remarkable except that this group is is run by a retired mechanic, and many of the main poster are older gentlemen. There is NO politics allowed on the list, and it is not limited to only diesels. A couple of the listers are biodieselers, and we

[Biofuel] Re: Kerosene

2005-04-07 Thread Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES
biodiesel. Mixed 50/50 with biodiesel or normal diesel you can burn it quite happily in most motors I know of. I would not use it pure, though, since it is about halfway between petrol and diesel and will not lubricate very well. It will be fine for cold starts in winter. Simon Fowler

Re: [Biofuel] Goodbye To All That Oil

2005-04-07 Thread MH
From the sound of things the price of petroleum products is to cheap and should increase to adjust for inflation, world growth and demand. along with gov't intelligence and military actions needed to secure world supplies. If only there were some conciliatory alternatives to all this.

Re: [Biofuel] Goodbye To All That Oil

2005-04-07 Thread Michael Redler
Hey, I found this while surfing yesterday and thought it was interesting, ironic, and related to this thread. Mike According to information posted on the Renewable Energy: The Infinite Power of Texas Web server, the Lone Star State now imports $7 billion worth of fossil fuels annually but

RE: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-07 Thread Tom Irwin
Dear Rick, What makes you think the U.S. did a good job with the invasion? It was a major cluster. Sure we beat up a third world army but failed to send the forces to close the borders. Iraq is the size of France. We invaded France in 1944 with about 1 million soldiers, Iraq with 120,000.

RE: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
Common sense is actually quite uncommon in some circles. Most of the free energy people I have talked with seem to have a large emotional investment in their paradigm, be it concern about energy shortage to perceiving themselves as victims of a cabal. Your points are valid but I don't think

Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
Quite right Mike Kirk Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick, I think it's a little like a kite (except, it's a propeller) and the twine is actually a power line. How's that Kirk? ...sound right? Mike Rick Littrell wrote: Dear Kirk, How does this work? A free flying generator

RE: [Biofuel] Acetone Increases Mileage 15-35%

2005-04-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
The talk about a large amount of fuel being unburned in a normal gasoline engine in good tune is so much blather. I think you are right Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be very wary of acetone contacting rubber or plastic. The mode of action sounds unlikely to me. One doesn't get that

RE: [Biofuel] Kerosene

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
What's all this then Malcolm, an Englishman talking of kero??? LOL! Pond? What pond? The only thing on the other side is the edge of the world, not as is alleged a whole bunch of folks who talk of kerosene when they mean paraffin - they all fell off. World not flat, hmphh. Anyway, from a

Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
In the picture to the right, the craft has been tilted by command, and the wind on this unusually windy day is turning the rotors, thus both holding up the craft and generating power which is transmitted back to the ground. See Australian Demonstration Site Photo

[Biofuel] Mother Earth News burners and biofuels

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
sunny, insects flying everywhere and fruit trees blossoming... And I finally figured out how to keep our house warm in the winter. LOL! Well, we get there in the end. With similar wonderful timing, last year at just this time I finished building our first MEN burner, the original design:

[Biofuel] 2 - Mother Earth News burners and glycerine by-product

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
have about 500 litres of it that we were hoping against hope to use as a winter heating fuel, but that seems to be out (see previous). First of all, this Turk-type burner here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html Journey to Forever 90-litre processor Scroll down a bit more

re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-07 Thread DHAJOGLO
Iraq Invasion May Be Remembered as Start of the Age of Oil Scarcity By Robert Collier San Francisco Chronicle Sunday 20 March 2005 http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/032105EA.shtml Production tumbles in post-Hussein era as more countries vie for shrinking supplies ... If it weren't for

Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread Joe Tobin
I agree with Rick, it looks like a kite with a propeller on it. If it works then the only energy need would be to get it up there in the first place, then if the wind is consistant enough it should stay there. Having said i imagine that it would require a fairly hefty tether/power line...and

RE: [Biofuel] Kerosene

2005-04-07 Thread malcolm maclure
Lol Keith! Sorry, it's a symptom of being a member of such a multi cultural list :-) Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: 07 April 2005 16:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kerosene Hi Malcolm and

Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Littrell
These are excellent points. In the case of France though the German army was a bit more of a challenge than the Iraq army, the French actually wanted us there. The response we got from the French is what Bush apparently thought he would get from the Iraqis (sp?). Unfortunately, he had

Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Littrell
Thanks for the information. This is really interesting. Rick Keith Addison wrote: Thank you Kirk. In the picture to the right, the craft has been tilted by command, and the wind on this unusually windy day is turning the rotors, thus both holding up the craft and generating power which is

Re: [Biofuel] taking out Saddam

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Littrell
Dear Darryl, In retrospect, it would have been cheaper in both blood and money to have kept Sadam under scrutiny and contained him instead of invading. Rick Darryl wrote: No, they did not have weapons of mass destruction yet, but they did have the know how and planned to build

[Biofuel] Filtered WVO mixed with diesel

2005-04-07 Thread Patrick Campbell
to be making my own biodiesel unfortunately. I live in an apartment complex with no garage. I'm thinking about collecting some WVO and filtering. Driving a 24v Cummins turbodiesel (Bosch VP44 and NOT common rail injection) that has been converted to be more biodiesel friendly (Running

RE: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
free energy people I have talked with seem to have a large emotional investment in their paradigm, be it concern about energy shortage to perceiving themselves as victims of a cabal. Your points are valid but I don't think the average Lutec fan will understand you. Great invention Keith.

Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread ROY Washbish
I believe this thing runs like a auto-gyro. Ya get it going in the wind and it just keeps going going going and as long as it's going it generates power. Now the question is how do ya keep planes from crashing into the power line??? Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite right Mike

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-07 Thread Rick Littrell
With respect to the US contribution to the European theater consider that at Stalingrad the German losses were 300,000 and the Russian 400,000 and Stalingrad was a battle that the Russians won! At Kursk the Germans lost 100,000 killed and wounded and the Russians 250,000 killed and 600,000

RE: [Biofuel] 2 - Mother Earth News burners and glycerine by-product

2005-04-07 Thread malcolm maclure
Point of safety I'll build another burner unit like the adapted Mother Earth burner described in the previous post, with a forced-air supply like the first one, but much smaller. I've got an empty acetylene tank (oxy-acetylene) about 9 diameter, and I'll use that, cut down, I wouldn't

Re: [Biofuel] taking out Saddam

2005-04-07 Thread darryl
Rick, actually it was not me that wrote the text you responded to below. That would have been Mike (see http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/45661/) Dear Darryl, In retrospect, it would have been cheaper in both blood and money to have kept Sadam under scrutiny and contained him instead

Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-07 Thread robert luis rabello
Dear Tom, These are excellent points. In the case of France though the German army was a bit more of a challenge than the Iraq army, the French actually wanted us there. You bring up something interesting, Rick. I would like to clarify, however, that the German troops we Americans

[Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-07 Thread robert luis rabello
This morning, gasoline prices hit $1.00 per liter for regular. I've never seen it higher than this. Premium fuel, which I have to run in my truck, is generally 20 cents more per liter, so I DIDN'T fill my tank this morning. . . Oh, for ethanol! robert luis rabello The Edge of

RE: [Biofuel] Mother Earth News burners and biofuels

2005-04-07 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Keith. It is good to read that spring is there again in that part of Japan. Around here on your the opposite part of the wolrd, in the midle of South America, last weekend we have a tipical start of the autum with rain and cold winds, temperatures dropping to 13o C but it recover againg

RE: [Biofuel] 2 - Mother Earth News burners and glycerine by-product

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
Damn, now I won't get that Darwin award I was hoping for... :-) Thanks very much! A timely warning, I was planning to do it at the weekend. (Phew!) I asked the engineer who gave it to me and he wasn't very concerned. He knew I wanted to cut it up and gave it to me for that purpose. The

Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
Rick Littrell wrote: Dear Tom, These are excellent points. In the case of France though the German army was a bit more of a challenge than the Iraq army, the French actually wanted us there. You bring up something interesting, Rick. I would like to clarify, however, that the German

Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-07 Thread stephan torak
Living in Hawaii, I wish gas was THAT cheap.. we are currently paying almostt $3 per gallon for #2 diesel, and that's rising by the minute. So...like the responsible guy I'm trying to be I wrote to all the newspapers about oil palms (which would do well here), about 630 gal of oil per acre

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-07 Thread John Hayes
The US involvement in the fighting in Europe was not pivotal to the outcome. Clearly any good student of history knows that US losses in Europe during WWII were completely drawfed by those of Germany and Russian, but to claim that US involvement in the fighting in Europe was not pivotal

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come

2005-04-07 Thread John Hayes
The US involvement in the fighting in Europe was not pivotal to the outcome. Clearly any good student of history knows that US losses in Europe during WWII were completely drawfed by those of Germany and Russian, but to claim that US involvement in the fighting in Europe was not pivotal

Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-07 Thread Hakan Falk
Stephan, $1 per liter is $3.80 per gallon. Hakan At 10:22 PM 4/7/2005, you wrote: Hello Robert, and all Living in Hawaii, I wish gas was THAT cheap.. we are currently paying almostt $3 per gallon for #2 diesel, and that's rising by the minute. So...like the responsible guy I'm trying to

RE: [Biofuel] Mother Earth News burners and biofuels

2005-04-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Keith. It is good to read that spring is there again in that part of Japan. Around here on your the opposite part of the wolrd, in the midle of South America, last weekend we have a tipical start of the autum with rain and cold winds, temperatures dropping to 13o C but it recover againg

Re: [Biofuel] Windmills in the Sky

2005-04-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
Airspace is controlled. The barnstorming open air biplane days are gone just like radio emissions without a license. There are places where the winds blow almost always, such as the continental divide in central Wyoming. They are even windier at altitude. The gyro field could be marked with

Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-07 Thread stephan torak
as the price of 1l vs. price of 1 gal. goes. But I'm not proposing cutting down virgin forest in Hawaii (very little left) I'm talking about former sugarcane land along the Hamakua coast of the Big Island that's been fallow for years and has slowly come into use for diverse agriculture,

Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-07 Thread Appal Energy
I think you have to honestly ask what agriculture and/or native flora and fauna on the islands would be displaced by instituting palm mono-culture for liquid fuel production. A safe bet is that many Hawaiians feel that their limitted acreage might be better served in ways other than