I guess the only real solution is to make it a closed project, where you
would have to apply to get access, and only real collectors would be
admitted. But I fear that's just delaying the inevitable, really.
Unfortunately I don't believe there's much of a chance of stopping a
counterfeiter
Totally disagree here; having an item still in original shrinkwrap is a
testament of time,
and much rarer than an open box, of course. Really though, it's just
amazing to have an
item after X years still in the condition and orginal packaging that it
would have been in
at the little ma pa
Brian the Fist schrieb:
I always like to throw a bone in the gears.. It's not so hard to get
access to a shrinkwrap machine. How do you know, if you get a
shrinkwrapped game, that it is in the ORIGINAL shrinkwrap? Especially
if there are no price tags or anything. If you never open it,
, 2004 6:12 AM
Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
Well, I kinda see it as preserving a legacy. How many originally
shrinked versions of a game will be around in fifty years?
Yeah, of course I understand this view. :) I'd much rather preserve the
whole package
Per-Olof Karlsson wrote:
Counterfeiters are always a problem. If the images are of high quality
enough (which we all want them to be), I'm sure we'd run into problems. The
only real way to solve it is by crippling the image in some way, either by
introducing some watermark or just insert a logo
But I agree that for very rare items the data should be preserved as
well, if a game would otherwise be lost, once the original medium is
deteriorated.
As long as 1 person perserves the data, it can be copied. An original
shrinkwrapped box can't be copied. :)
] Need advice regarding a Wasteland purchase
Stuart Feldhamer wrote:
That's another scam...don't get me started.
At the risk of spawning another monster OT thread, I have to know: Why
is slabbing a scam? Is it because their ratings are worthless? Or is
it because it hardens the market so
Well, I kinda see it as preserving a legacy. How many originally
shrinked versions of a game will be around in fifty years?
Yeah, of course I understand this view. :) I'd much rather preserve the
whole package though. I like to make scans of the contents for instance,
which is rather hard when
Lee K. Seitz wrote:
Yeah, and these discussions have a very familiar ring to them. I was
going to go back and look at our discussion, but discovered the
archive only goes back to late January 2003. I didn't realize we were
losing access to messages as we went along. Glad I'm saving some of
Per-Olof Karlsson wrote:
Well, I kinda see it as preserving a legacy. How many originally
shrinked versions of a game will be around in fifty years?
Yeah, of course I understand this view. :) I'd much rather preserve the
whole package though. I like to make scans of the contents for instance,
Jim Leonard stated:
Also, any comic book collectors on this list: What happened to the
market? I collected Alan Moore books in the 1980s as they came out, and
in the early 1990s they were worth more than $20 a book. Now I couldn't
get more than $1-$2 apiece for them... Did something happen
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Is there an auction link you can provide?
I don't know too much about Wasteland, but I do know that if
it's not in the original shrinkwrap, it technically is not NEW. If he had
it already
BL wrote:
Is there an auction link you can provide?
I don't know too much about Wasteland, but I do know that if it's not in
the original shrinkwrap, it technically is not NEW. If he had it
already, why would he open it? Some inexperienced sellers/collectors
will call something NEW if it
Per-Olof Karlsson wrote:
think the best way to describe a really new game is MINT SEALED as
suggested by BL.
Sealed but crushed games are also covered in the MobyScale :) See
previous post.
--
Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
World's largest electronic gaming project:
an impossible rating, becuase NM implies no wrap.
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BL wrote:
Is there an auction link you can
BL wrote:
My bad Jim, I'm actually a little rusty! :) That descrepency with Near
Mint's definition that we had a conversation about last year was never
ironed out though huh? (the descrep. being that Near Mint: No noticable
defects, but not sealed, which makes a Sealed but not in perfect Mint
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BL wrote:
My bad Jim, I'm actually a little rusty! :) That descrepency with Near
Mint's definition that we had a conversation about last year was never
that came with it, then what's the point? Other than being an
investment, I see no reason at all to keep it in shrinkwrap.
- Peo
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Per-Olof Karlsson wrote:
things, but I wouldn't be too surprised if this attitude would go away much
I don't think it will go away, because computer game software has
*always* come wrapped or sealed in some way. Hell, even Akalabeth came
in a bag. That is completely different from comics,
I don't think it will go away, because computer game software has
*always* come wrapped or sealed in some way. Hell, even Akalabeth came
in a bag. That is completely different from comics, whose value was
*never* tied to bags, always condition, until companies started bagging
them.
This is
BL wrote:
I understand the scale, there is just the point with Mint Sealed and Near
Mint implying the state of the shrink on the product while there's also a
modifier for Sealed.. It just seems redundant to me. In essense MS and NM
are the same thing, except for the wrap. So why not M with or
Per-Olof Karlsson wrote:
I don't think it will go away, because computer game software has
*always* come wrapped or sealed in some way. Hell, even Akalabeth came
in a bag. That is completely different from comics, whose value was
*never* tied to bags, always condition, until companies
I'm not saying the sealed = more $$ formula is fair and just, but it
is extremely accurate in determining how much something will fetch on
ebay or in trade. I think it's unanimous that, in terms of dollar
value, sealed non-sealed. So the scale was built with that in mind.
Absolutely, sealed
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I'm not saying the sealed = more $$ formula is fair and just, but it
is extremely accurate in determining how much something will fetch on
ebay or in trade. I think it's
Jim Leonard stated:
BL wrote:
I would propose a 2 changes to the scale:
(I should warn you that changes to the scale were debated heavily for
months before being finalized. If the scale is constantly changing,
nobody will use it. Therefore, in order for a change to be made to the
scale,
you see. Nevertheless, I can see this isn't going anywhere fast,
so I'll just drop it. :)
Brad
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From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:26 PM
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On Jan 15, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Jim Leonard wrote:
[Snip]
Hey, I'm in total agreement with you there. In fact, I routinely
crack the wrap on my software if I want to play the game (instead of
downloading a badly-cracked copy, or running a different version in an
emulator, etc.). Of course, this
Stefan Lindblom schrieb:
Hello group,
My name is Stefan and I am gamoholic.
:)
I need some advice, preferrably from someone who knows what a NEW copy
of Wasteland should look like. I have included a picture of a game I
just bought. He declared it to be NEW, and said he got this one
Per-Olof Karlsson schrieb:
I support this view too. Shrinkwrapped items to me are interesting mainly
because I know it's all in the box, and if mint also that it's all in
perfect condition. Other than that, I'm not too interested. I can be found
removing the shrink when I'm curious enough
:)
Brad
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:57 PM
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Edward Franks schrieb:
I'm the same. If it is a game for me the shrinkwrap
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From: Brian the Fist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:12 PM
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I always like to throw a bone in the gears.. It's not so hard to get
access to a shrinkwrap
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