Am 25.08.2010 01:12, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
2010/8/24 Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de:
- Is heating_engineer really different from hvac?
heating_engineer is not a craft but an engineer. The craft is hvac or
plumper. A company that installs AC is not necessary equipped with an
Am 25.08.2010 01:14, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
2010/8/24 Élisée Reclusfe-nospam-2009-03...@arcor.de:
Am 24.08.2010 10:08, schrieb Peter Körner:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft
Are artists,
Am 25.08.2010 01:34, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
Maybe you wanted to express handicraft (de:Kunsthandwerk)?
Most of the values were copied from the german proposal page and have
thus not been written or reviewed from native speakers. I exchanged art
with handicraft in the examples list.
Am 25.08.2010 03:53, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
2010/8/25 John F. Eldredgej...@jfeldredge.com:
Food delivery and meals on wheels both imply that the food is brought to the
customers. I am talking about an establishment in a fixed location, having a kitchen but little or no
provision for
2010/8/25 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
service=engineer_agency
engineer=heating
looking again at this I don't really like it, because we already have
service for highways (service=alley/parking_aisle/driveway, ...)
I'd prefer office=heating_engineer
or maybe office=engineer(ing)
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd prefer office=heating_engineer
+1
Pieren
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Am 25.08.2010 15:32, schrieb John F. Eldredge:
Most examples of an establishment having a kitchen, but no provision for
customers to eat on the premises, would fall under the fast-food category, but
not all.
This is highly dependent on how you define fast-food.
For example..
I'd regard this
to be ready.
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Date :Wed Aug 25 08:41:22 America/Chicago 2010
Am 25.08.2010 15:32, schrieb John F. Eldredge:
Most examples of an establishment having a kitchen, but no provision for
customers
This was in reaction to a statement made, earlier in the discussion, that said
(more or less) that an establishment that cooked and sold food had to have
customer seating in order to be classified as a restaurant.
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Am 25.08.2010 17:40, schrieb John F. Eldredge:
This was in reaction to a statement made, earlier in the discussion, that said
(more or less) that an establishment that cooked and sold food had to have
customer seating in order to be classified as a restaurant.
I think this has been prooved
Hi
some months ago I started a craft= proposal in my wiki user space:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft
It has grown over time and I got some questions to move it over to map
features. I'd love to do so
At 2010-08-24 01:08, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Peter_K=F6rner?= wrote:
some months ago I started a craft= proposal in my wiki user space:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
My observations:
- plummer should be plumber
- Is heating_engineer really different from hvac?
- I would
Am 24.08.2010 10:27, schrieb Tom Chance:
You are of course welcome to begin the proposal process, follow these
instructions here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Creating_a_proposal
Okay, I'll do so.
You will need to create this as a proper proposal page, invite some more
discussion and
Am 24.08.2010 10:08, schrieb Peter Körner:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft
Are artists, computer experts, fashion designers, funeral directors and
photographers really craftsmen?
There could also be a
Am 24.08.2010 10:28, schrieb Alan Mintz:
At 2010-08-24 01:08, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Peter_K=F6rner?= wrote:
some months ago I started a craft= proposal in my wiki user space:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
My observations:
- plummer should be plumber
- Is
Am 24.08.2010 10:08, schrieb Peter Körner:
Hi
some months ago I started a craft= proposal in my wiki user space:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft
It has grown over time and I got some questions to move
At 2010-08-24 01:43, Peter Körner wrote:
Am 24.08.2010 10:28, schrieb Alan Mintz:
At 2010-08-24 01:08, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Peter_K=F6rner?= wrote:
some months ago I started a craft= proposal in my wiki user space:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
My observations:
-
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Peter Körner wrote:
Am 24.08.2010 10:43, schrieb Élisée Reclus:
Am 24.08.2010 10:08, schrieb Peter Körner:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft
Are artists, computer experts,
Am 24.08.2010 12:17, schrieb Liz:
the butcher and baker are working with raw materials, producing something
temporary and not required to have beauty in its form
What, there is no beauty in my rump steak? I cant accept that, it's not
true!!!1eleven11! ;)
Just kidding.
Peter
Am 24.08.2010 13:24, schrieb Peter Körner:
What, there is no beauty in my rump steak? I cant accept that, it's not
true!!!1eleven11! ;)
Is there?
http://bfox.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/tommaso_ausili_slaughterhouse01.jpg?w=347h=521
Rly?
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On 8/24/10, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Am 24.08.2010 12:17, schrieb Liz:
the butcher and baker are working with raw materials, producing something
temporary and not required to have beauty in its form
What, there is no beauty in my rump steak? I cant accept that, it's not
On 24 August 2010 12:24, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Am 24.08.2010 12:17, schrieb Liz:
the butcher and baker are working with raw materials, producing something
temporary and not required to have beauty in its form
What, there is no beauty in my rump steak? I cant accept
Am 24.08.2010 13:38, schrieb Elena of Valhalla:
On 8/24/10, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Am 24.08.2010 12:17, schrieb Liz:
the butcher and baker are working with raw materials, producing something
temporary and not required to have beauty in its form
What, there is no beauty in
2010/8/24 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
Am 24.08.2010 13:38, schrieb Elena of Valhalla:
On 8/24/10, Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Am 24.08.2010 12:17, schrieb Liz:
the butcher and baker are working with raw materials, producing
something
temporary and not required to
Am 24.08.2010 14:28, schrieb Simone Saviolo:
2010/8/24 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
I'd like Élisée Reclus proposal better: if it sells something to end
customers is a shop and not a craft.
A sculptor (and an art gallery, often) ultimately hopes to sell his
artwork. By that
Am 24.08.2010 14:37, schrieb Élisée Reclus:
Am 24.08.2010 14:28, schrieb Simone Saviolo:
2010/8/24 Peter Körnerosm-li...@mazdermind.de:
I'd like Élisée Reclus proposal better: if it sells something to end
customers is a shop and not a craft.
A sculptor (and an art gallery, often) ultimately
2010/8/24 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
Why does the list of proposed values for craft= then contain butcher and
bakery? I don't see them as a craft but I hesitate to remove them just
because of a feeling that's not based on a well formed definition.
Probably because some bakeries or
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.dewrote:
Why does the list of proposed values for craft= then contain butcher and
bakery?
Remove the obvious shop entries like bakery and butcher and keep the
obvious craft like carpenter or plumber. If some entries are
Am 24.08.2010 15:07, schrieb Pieren:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de
mailto:osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Why does the list of proposed values for craft= then contain butcher
and bakery?
Remove the obvious shop entries like bakery and butcher
I
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:28:53PM +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote:
A sculptor (and an art gallery, often) ultimately hopes to sell his
artwork. By that criterion, nothing would be cratfsmanship.
Heh, well, that probably goes for very many sculptors (and art
galleries), although it is possible that
2010/8/24 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
- Is heating_engineer really different from hvac?
I'm not a native speaker so I'll take your hints as they come. Regarding the
difference between heating_engineer and hvac I'm not sure, too, but I know
crafts that only installs air conditioner
2010/8/24 Élisée Reclus fe-nospam-2009-03...@arcor.de:
Am 24.08.2010 10:08, schrieb Peter Körner:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft
Are artists, computer experts, fashion designers, funeral directors
2010/8/24 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
We need a better definition. A baker or a restaurant could also belong to
that category but I still prefer 'shop' for baker and 'amenity' for
restaurant..
I think we need both: shop=bakery and craft=bakery. The latter is
producing, the first only selling
2010/8/24 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
I'd like Élisée Reclus proposal better: if it sells something to end
customers is a shop and not a craft.
What do you think about that?
+1 that if it sells it is a shop
-1 that it cannot be a craft at the same time.
cheers,
Martin
2010/8/24 Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:28:53PM +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote:
A sculptor (and an art gallery, often) ultimately hopes to sell his
artwork. By that criterion, nothing would be cratfsmanship.
Heh, well, that probably goes for very many sculptors (and
that has tables and
seating for customers, and it is a converted building that used to be one of a
different restaurant chain.
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Date :Tue Aug 24 18:21:16 America/Chicago 2010
2010/8/24 Pieren
blurry.
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From :mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com
Date :Tue Aug 24 18:34:22 America/Chicago 2010
2010/8/24 Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:28:53PM +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote:
A sculptor (and an art gallery
Oh, I forgot to say that a fair where craftsmen sell their handicrafts is
termed a craft fair. The largest such craft fair here in Nashville is put on
annually by the Tennessee Association of Craft Artists.
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2010/8/25 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com:
How would you tag a restaurant that sells food for take-away, but doesn't
have any tables for customers to sit and eat on the premises? For example,
there is a chain of barbecue restaurants here in Nashville, TN, USA, that
generally does
2010/8/25 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com:
The borderline between the more beautiful craft objects and fine art is
sometimes a bit blurry.
yes, sure.
cheers,
Martin
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Date :Tue Aug 24 19:48:05 America/Chicago 2010
2010/8/25 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com:
How would you tag a restaurant that sells food for take-away, but doesn't
have any
-produced. The borderline between the more beautiful craft objects
and fine art is sometimes a bit blurry.
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From :mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com
Date :Tue Aug 24 18:34:22 America/Chicago 2010
2010/8/24 Simon Wardsi...@bleah.co.uk
On 8/24/10 8:48 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2010/8/25 John F. Eldredgej...@jfeldredge.com:
How would you tag a restaurant that sells food for take-away, but doesn't have
any tables for customers to sit and eat on the premises? For example, there is
a chain of barbecue restaurants here in
2010/8/25 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com:
Food delivery and meals on wheels both imply that the food is brought to
the customers. I am talking about an establishment in a fixed location,
having a kitchen but little or no provision for customers to eat on the
premises. The customers
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